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| jkollie | Hi dcammue | 19:19 |
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| dcammue | Hi jkollie | 19:25 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue if you have credit can you call the others and remind them about the meeting please | 19:27 |
| dcammue | Okay | 19:28 |
| jkollie_ | I text everyone earlier today, but I don't have minute in my PH right now | 19:29 |
| thomasboimah | Greetings everyone | 19:30 |
| jkollie_ | greetings thomasboimah | 19:30 |
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| jkollie_ | we are suppose to start now, I have no idea why the | 19:33 |
| jkollie_ | others aren't here yet | 19:33 |
| thomasboimah | maybe they didn't see your message | 19:37 |
| jkollie_ | really?? | 19:38 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue | 19:38 |
| thomasboimah | I am just assume | 19:38 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue are you still here?? | 19:39 |
| fkoikoi | Hi dcammue, thomasboima, anthony_p and jkollie_ | 19:40 |
| thomasboimah | Hi fkoikoi | 19:40 |
| dcammue | How are you freena | 19:41 |
| jkollie_ | Hi fkoikoi | 19:41 |
| jkollie_ | should I start the meeting now or | 19:42 |
| fkoikoi | I'm fine and you dcammue | 19:42 |
| jkollie_ | we want to give the others a minutes | 19:43 |
| thomasboimah | jkollie_, I think you can start | 19:44 |
| jkollie_ | okay | 19:45 |
| dcammue | I tried calling gabriel no answer | 19:45 |
| fkoikoi | before you start jkollie_ | 19:46 |
| fkoikoi | have you sent the mail to kei and tony?? | 19:46 |
| jkollie_ | what mail fkoikoi? | 19:46 |
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| jkollie_ | remind me | 19:46 |
| jkollie_ | fkoikoi | 19:49 |
| dcammue | can we start? | 19:50 |
| svaye | Hi guys | 19:50 |
| jkollie_ | yes dcammue, fkoikoi was about to say something | 19:51 |
| fkoikoi__ | Hmm, a mail you told jeff that you was going to sent to tony and kei informing then about jeff proposal | 19:51 |
| thomasboimah | Hi svaye | 19:52 |
| fkoikoi__ | if not why didn't you ask me to do it? I thought you did it because you said you will do it and that's why i didn't bother jkollie_ but i checked my mail and didn't see any so i'm just asking | 19:54 |
| jkollie__ | I call this meeting so we can discuss jelkner proposal he posted in NOVASEN concerning the school project. | 19:54 |
| jkollie__ | and that we all can and gather our ideas and concern on this proposal. | 19:55 |
| jkollie__ | https://novasen.org/assemblies/nova-solidarity-econ/f/53/debates/13 | 19:56 |
| jkollie__ | you can view his proposal here | 19:56 |
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| jkollie__ | and everytime you give your ideas and concerns or | 19:57 |
| jkollie__ | questions | 19:57 |
| jkollie__ | I get to post your concern and ideas in NOVASEN under this proposal | 19:58 |
| dcammue | yeah jkollie__ i read the proposal on novasen and is a great idea | 19:59 |
| jkollie__ | jelkner ask me to discuss with everyone of you concerning this | 19:59 |
| dcammue | we all started discussing this few years back but, it fail as jeff said | 20:00 |
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| jkollie__ | well we need to think properly | 20:00 |
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| jkollie__ | dcammue that's why we need the ideas and concerns so that we don't keep failling | 20:01 |
| dcammue | so firstly let's understand the plan for the solidarity project | 20:01 |
| dcammue | the purpose for the school | 20:02 |
| dcammue | 2. how this school will be run | 20:02 |
| dcammue | 3. are we capable enough to manage the school run | 20:03 |
| dcammue | maybe someone can add up while i think | 20:04 |
| jkollie__ | okay | 20:04 |
| jkollie__ | this might take awhile from what I think, since we need to think properly and ask the rightful questions like jelkner said, | 20:04 |
| jkollie__ | we are going to keep having this discussion here and in person, | 20:05 |
| thomasboimah | I really like the idea of building a school, but I’m concerned about long-term sustainability. | 20:05 |
| jkollie__ | give our thought's and | 20:05 |
| thomasboimah | The question here is What specific lessons did we learn from the previous attempt. | 20:06 |
| jkollie__ | I get to post them in Novasen | 20:06 |
| thomasboimah | And how can we do something different this time to make this to work | 20:06 |
| thomasboimah | ? | 20:06 |
| jkollie__ | right thomasboimah | 20:06 |
| jkollie__ | one lesson is relying on the MCSS | 20:07 |
| thomasboimah | right | 20:07 |
| thomasboimah | This is really going to be a big project | 20:07 |
| jkollie__ | so what we need now from everyone is for us to take our time and think about | 20:08 |
| thomasboimah | and it is going to take awhile, so what we need to do here as Jetro Web Development we need to really think about this | 20:08 |
| jkollie__ | what could go wrong and what could go right | 20:09 |
| thomasboimah | and ask our self all the necessary question and answer them and be ready to have a conversation with Jeff when he is here in LIB | 20:09 |
| jkollie__ | right | 20:10 |
| thomasboimah | Running a school is not Jock | 20:10 |
| jkollie__ | but before then | 20:10 |
| thomasboimah | so we really need to plan well for this to work | 20:10 |
| fkoikoi | okay guys, what everyone is saying is great but we firstly need to understands jeff proposal before moving forward so the question should be: | 20:10 |
| fkoikoi | 1. Is jeff talking about using NOVASEN decidim platform to run or build the school (That is everything will be done on the platform) or | 20:12 |
| fkoikoi | 2. is jeff talking about building a school physically here in Liberia?? | 20:13 |
| thomasboimah | Ahhh | 20:13 |
| fkoikoi | why ahh thomasboimah?? | 20:13 |
| thomasboimah | This is the same conversation i was having with jkollie__ | 20:13 |
| jkollie__ | okay fkoikoi | 20:14 |
| jkollie__ | to answer your question | 20:14 |
| jkollie__ | lets read the past logs conversation I had with jeff | 20:14 |
| dcammue | jeff is talking about physical school building | 20:15 |
| jkollie__ | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23jetrowebdev/2026-02-15.log.html | 20:15 |
| dcammue | not services on the net | 20:15 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, I think we are going to be using NOvasen for management or the school particialy I think. But the school is going to be physical | 20:15 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, I think we are going to be using NOvasen for management for the school particialy I think. But the school is going to be physical | 20:16 |
| thomasboimah | So That we the poor people children that have interest in technology | 20:17 |
| fkoikoi | since jkollie__ and I are the decidim team, I wanted us to firstly have a meeting (both of us) to discuss and them email jelkner to get a clear picture of what his proposal is before meeting jetro web team. I was surprise to receive a message later today when i put my phone on cuz my phone was off | 20:17 |
| dcammue | he even make mention of how jetroweb will be the central player to play to role of managing the project | 20:17 |
| thomasboimah | But don't have enough income to go there and learn | 20:17 |
| jkollie__ | fkoikoi | 20:18 |
| fkoikoi | thomasboimah, if that's the case, we should take into consideration what happen first when we try organizing to build a school here in Liberia | 20:18 |
| jkollie__ | jeff need us to represent jetro in NOVASEN | 20:18 |
| dcammue | fkoikoi, this is something that jeff has been discussing with us | 20:18 |
| dcammue | not just now | 20:18 |
| fkoikoi | I know jkollie__ | 20:19 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, that was my fist input here: <thomasboimah> The question here is What specific lessons did we learn from the previous attempt. | 20:19 |
| thomasboimah | <jkollie__> I get to post them in Novasen | 20:19 |
| thomasboimah | <thomasboimah> And how can we do something different this time to make this to work | 20:19 |
| dcammue | can you read the or his proposal? | 20:19 |
| jkollie__ | thats why he ask me to meet with all the team members so that they can give their ideas | 20:19 |
| fkoikoi | you are not getting my point dcammue | 20:19 |
| jkollie__ | and we(me or you ) get to share their idea through NOVASEN | 20:20 |
| thomasboimah | Sure jkollie__ and fkoikoi you guys are Jetro rep in NOvasen | 20:20 |
| thomasboimah | All Jeff need from you guys | 20:21 |
| dcammue | but going and asking jeff will be like you have never heard of such | 20:21 |
| thomasboimah | is to Discuss any proposal in the Novasen with we the Jeff folks | 20:21 |
| thomasboimah | and give a feedback | 20:21 |
| thomasboimah | and that is what you guys are doing now | 20:22 |
| thomasboimah | *Jetro* | 20:22 |
| fkoikoi | no dcammue anyway let's just go straight to my point because i don't think you guys understand what i said | 20:22 |
| jkollie__ | so we are having this meeting and will have it again in persons and collect jetro members concerns and questions | 20:22 |
| jkollie__ | and publish it in NOVASEN | 20:23 |
| jkollie__ | so that we know where we are heading before jeff gets here | 20:23 |
| thomasboimah | Yes jkollie__ | 20:24 |
| thomasboimah | You're getting it right | 20:24 |
| fkoikoi | jkollie__, thomasboimah can you guys please just listen to my point and cut the long talk because it's like you guys are trying to think for me | 20:24 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, we are not thinking for you | 20:24 |
| jkollie__ | apologies fkoikoi please go adhead | 20:24 |
| thomasboimah | we're only trying to make you to understand | 20:25 |
| thomasboimah | But you can go ahead and give you concern | 20:25 |
| fkoikoi | no thomasboimah can you please let me go on | 20:25 |
| thomasboimah | You have the floor fkoikoi | 20:25 |
| dcammue | hey very one | 20:25 |
| dcammue | let fkoikoi go on | 20:25 |
| dcammue | please! | 20:25 |
| dcammue | -;) | 20:26 |
| thomasboimah | But everyone can text at once | 20:26 |
| dcammue | just do not get in her way | 20:26 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION wait for fkoikoi to go ahead | 20:26 |
| fkoikoi | you guys can go ahead | 20:28 |
| dcammue | Ah | 20:29 |
| fkoikoi | I'm saying we should reflect on what happen when we first try to use the community land and an individuals learn. so in view building a school here is not a bad idea but jetro when don't have it's own land and that first thing in building is to have a place (land) that the school will be build on. | 20:29 |
| dcammue | :-) | 20:29 |
| dcammue | that what i stated first | 20:29 |
| dcammue | let get the plan for the school | 20:30 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, that was my fist input I make: <thomasboimah> The question here is What specific lessons did we learn from the previous attempt. | 20:30 |
| thomasboimah | <thomasboimah> <jkollie__> I get to post them in Novasen | 20:30 |
| thomasboimah | <thomasboimah> <thomasboimah> And how can we do something different this time to make this to work | 20:30 |
| fkoikoi | okay thomasboimah and dcammue | 20:30 |
| fkoikoi | i rest my case | 20:30 |
| dcammue | okay | 20:31 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 20:31 |
| dcammue | we want to build a school, what kind of school? | 20:31 |
| dcammue | let answer this question | 20:32 |
| thomasboimah | Nice dcammue | 20:32 |
| svaye | dcammue: I am pretty sure it will be a high school | 20:32 |
| thomasboimah | That is What Jeff want from us to ask our self all the Necessary question and be able to answer | 20:33 |
| thomasboimah | it so that when he is here | 20:33 |
| thomasboimah | we can have deep conversation with him | 20:33 |
| svaye | Because jelkner mentioned that the students from the school could be recruiting based on their level of seriousness, almost the same thing jelkner did with us | 20:34 |
| dcammue | business school or free solidarity school for the poor and interested Liberian | 20:34 |
| thomasboimah | But from the previous conversation i think it is going to be high school | 20:34 |
| thomasboimah | free solidarity school for the poor and interested Liberian | 20:34 |
| dcammue | +1 | 20:34 |
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| svaye | The non profit organisation that we are going to form will be the funders of the school dcammue | 20:35 |
| dcammue | yes, we will come to that | 20:36 |
| thomasboimah | Jeff and SJC want to help we the poor people children that have interest in technology but do not have enough income | 20:36 |
| thomasboimah | But Jetro is going to benefit from this tho | 20:36 |
| thomasboimah | The question is how? | 20:36 |
| dcammue | do we all agree that it is a free solidarity school for the poor and interested Liberian? | 20:36 |
| thomasboimah | and the answer is | 20:37 |
| thomasboimah | We are going to have a space in the school to operate as a coop | 20:37 |
| thomasboimah | That is what going to be Jetro benefit | 20:37 |
| thomasboimah | and maybe more to come | 20:37 |
| dcammue | i am not seeing any +1 to my question | 20:38 |
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| thomasboimah | dcammue, that is what SJC is their for | 20:38 |
| thomasboimah | I"m i right madam president jkollie ? | 20:38 |
| svaye | dcammue: that question is not for us to answer | 20:39 |
| dcammue | it is | 20:39 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, | 20:39 |
| thomasboimah | read the mission and vision of SJC HERE: https://sjcompute.org/ | 20:39 |
| dcammue | we are the one that will be running this physically | 20:39 |
| svaye | dcammue: the school will not be owned by jetroweb, so it's not our decision to make | 20:40 |
| thomasboimah | exactly svaye | 20:40 |
| fkoikoi | thomasboimah, svaye dcammue and jkollie no current at my house and my phone battery is to 8 percent | 20:40 |
| thomasboimah | The school is going to be run by a non profit organization | 20:40 |
| dcammue | okay, we want the school, yes! | 20:40 |
| dcammue | let move on | 20:41 |
| svaye | dcammue: we will be running it through the non profit organisation that jelkner wants us to establish, until the organisation is established we can't make this decision as jetroweb | 20:41 |
| thomasboimah | But you know the sweet thing about it | 20:41 |
| thomasboimah | is that Some of Jetro member is going to be on that non profit organization board | 20:41 |
| fkoikoi | +1 thomasboimah | 20:42 |
| thomasboimah | So we are going to have so voice their | 20:42 |
| thomasboimah | *some | 20:42 |
| dcammue | so if you will be part of the organization, how you can not decide what you want now? | 20:42 |
| svaye | Exactly thomasboimah | 20:42 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, | 20:43 |
| svaye | dcammue: the organization is not establish yet | 20:43 |
| thomasboimah | yeah | 20:43 |
| dcammue | but it will | 20:43 |
| thomasboimah | yeah, | 20:43 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, | 20:43 |
| thomasboimah | And the nice thing is that | 20:43 |
| dcammue | and you need to base on that to decide now | 20:43 |
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| thomasboimah | Jetro is going to help in the establishing process | 20:44 |
| thomasboimah | and that is what we are on now | 20:44 |
| jkollie_ | +1 dcammue | 20:44 |
| thomasboimah | fining the way forward | 20:44 |
| thomasboimah | for the to come to life | 20:44 |
| thomasboimah | *this | 20:44 |
| dcammue | so is it high school your guys want or just a school | 20:44 |
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| svaye | dcammue: look at it this way. You are to be appointed principal of a school but will you start ordering teachers and students around if you are not yet the principal but you know you will be given the position? | 20:45 |
| dcammue | while if jeff ask, what king of school you guys want us to build? | 20:45 |
| svaye | High school | 20:45 |
| thomasboimah | jkollie_, ? | 20:46 |
| jkollie_ | thomasboimah | 20:46 |
| thomasboimah | I hope you are taking point down from the conversation. anyway you can just direct Jeff here | 20:46 |
| thomasboimah | jkollie_, | 20:46 |
| jkollie_ | sure | 20:47 |
| thomasboimah | So the conversation giving you and fkoikoi something to post in the novasen? | 20:47 |
| thomasboimah | Because that is what we are here for | 20:47 |
| svaye | thomasboimah: jkollie_ and dcammue my battery is going low, I might drop anytime from now | 20:47 |
| fkoikoi | +1 thomasboimah | 20:47 |
| jkollie_ | okay | 20:48 |
| thomasboimah | That's great to know fkoikoi that you guys are getting something to post in the novasen | 20:48 |
| fkoikoi | so jetro web embrace jeff proposal right?? | 20:48 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 20:48 |
| svaye | +1 | 20:48 |
| jkollie_ | its not just about something thomasboimah | 20:49 |
| fkoikoi | and how can jetro web help in managing this project?? | 20:49 |
| thomasboimah | Nice question fkoikoi | 20:49 |
| jkollie_ | what matters is that we know where we are headed and what we need to do | 20:50 |
| thomasboimah | 1. Buy helping in forming the non profit organization | 20:50 |
| jkollie_ | and what not to | 20:50 |
| thomasboimah | 2. Buy helping in find a land to build the school | 20:50 |
| thomasboimah | 1. By helping in forming the non profit organization | 20:51 |
| thomasboimah | 2. By helping in find a land to build the school | 20:51 |
| thomasboimah | *finding | 20:51 |
| jkollie_ | right thomasboimah | 20:51 |
| jkollie_ | okay guys we have 9min left | 20:52 |
| thomasboimah | 3. To make sure what make this to faild the first time to not happen again | 20:52 |
| jkollie_ | exactly | 20:52 |
| thomasboimah | and number 3 is what we are doing right now | 20:52 |
| thomasboimah | asking our self | 20:52 |
| jkollie_ | thats the goal | 20:52 |
| thomasboimah | all the possible question | 20:52 |
| thomasboimah | That might make this to faild | 20:53 |
| thomasboimah | and find way to handle | 20:53 |
| thomasboimah | before it happen | 20:53 |
| fkoikoi | and also facilitates or help facilitates the computer leaning process in the school aright?? | 20:53 |
| fkoikoi | great points thomasboimah | 20:53 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 20:53 |
| jkollie_ | we don't want to fail, so we have to look into this and figure it out | 20:54 |
| thomasboimah | So as we have conversation like this you will find that we are going to be getting more idea about the school we want to build | 20:54 |
| thomasboimah | and that is what Jeff want and ask us to discuss the proposal | 20:55 |
| thomasboimah | so that by the time he get here | 20:55 |
| thomasboimah | we can have a deeper conversation about this | 20:55 |
| fkoikoi | sure thomasboimah | 20:55 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 20:55 |
| fkoikoi | I have a suggestion guys | 20:55 |
| jkollie_ | and by then we will know our next move | 20:56 |
| jkollie_ | please go adhead fkoikoi | 20:56 |
| fkoikoi | I suggest we all go and reflects on what all have been discussed here tonight and by friday everyone should have a bigger picture of how the project should be like and then we all can discussed it on friday since we meet in person that day | 20:58 |
| thomasboimah | Second in motion with fkoikoi | 20:58 |
| fkoikoi | thomasboimah, svaye dcammue and jkollie_ is that okay?? | 20:59 |
| svaye | +1 | 20:59 |
| thomasboimah | so jkollie_ and fkoikoi you guys can direct jeff here tomorrow in the standup meeting | 20:59 |
| fkoikoi | dcammue,?? | 20:59 |
| dcammue | we all fly with the same wings | 20:59 |
| fkoikoi | hahaha okk dcammue | 20:59 |
| jkollie__ | okay everyone | 21:00 |
| svaye | Thanks for organising this meeting jkollie_ | 21:01 |
| fkoikoi | jkollie_, what do you think?? should we email jeff or send him here during tomorrow stand up meeting why we are creating our posts about today's meeting | 21:01 |
| thomasboimah | so i am porking fkoikoi | 21:01 |
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| thomasboimah | but i will advice you guys do both | 21:01 |
| thomasboimah | in the email you can in link to this meeting | 21:02 |
| thomasboimah | *include | 21:02 |
| fkoikoi | what do you mean by "so i am porking" thomasboimah ?? | 21:02 |
| svaye | Good night sweet dreams fkoikoi thomasboimah dcammue and jkollie_ | 21:02 |
| jkollie__ | fkoikoi | 21:02 |
| thomasboimah | fkoikoi, I mean Sorry i am porking | 21:02 |
| fkoikoi | that's a great idea thomasboimah, thanks | 21:02 |
| jkollie__ | its getting late | 21:03 |
| thomasboimah | Good night | 21:03 |
| thomasboimah | svaye, | 21:03 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off because my battery is low | 21:03 |
| fkoikoi | good night svaye | 21:03 |
| jkollie__ | so we need to close this meeting | 21:03 |
| jkollie__ | lets chat online | 21:03 |
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| fkoikoi | you are not poking thomasboimah | 21:03 |
| thomasboimah | That question was for jkollie__ not me. So i am | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | Okay jkollie__ | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | you can go ahead | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | a close the meeting | 21:04 |
| thomasboimah | *and | 21:04 |
| fkoikoi | jkollie__, is the meeting over | 21:04 |
| jkollie__ | freena | 21:04 |
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| jkollie__ | before we leave | 21:05 |
| fkoikoi | okay guys have pleasant night | 21:05 |
| fkoikoi | jkollie__, | 21:05 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION waits for jkollie__ | 21:05 |
| fkoikoi | jkollie__, | 21:06 |
| jkollie__ | either me or you should send jelkner the email with the link to this meeting | 21:06 |
| jkollie__ | and after friday discussion we can post in NOVASEN | 21:07 |
| jkollie__ | what do you think? | 21:07 |
| fkoikoi | okay jkollie__ that's good but I don't have current jkollie__ and both my phone and computer are low | 21:07 |
| jkollie__ | alright i'll email him early tomorrow morning | 21:08 |
| fkoikoi | but will check my mail early tomorrow morning, if i don't see anything from you then i will sent it because current just came | 21:08 |
| jkollie__ | thanks everyone for being here | 21:08 |
| jkollie__ | alright | 21:09 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION signs off | 21:09 |
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| jkollie__ | good night everyone | 21:09 |
| jkollie__ | ACTION leaving | 21:09 |
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| dcammue | ACTION signs off till tomorrow | 21:10 |
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