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| jelkner | Good morning dcammue and fkoikoi | 11:46 |
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| fkoikoi | Good morning jelkner | 11:46 |
| fkoikoi | did you see the mail i sent this morning jelkner?? | 11:47 |
| jelkner | i did | 11:47 |
| jelkner | can we chat about it before the stand up? | 11:47 |
| fkoikoi | i mean the one i just sent jelkner | 11:47 |
| jelkner | hmmm... let me look | 11:47 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:47 |
| jelkner | ok, just saw it | 11:49 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 11:50 |
| jelkner | ok, i think i see where you are trying to go | 11:50 |
| jelkner | but i think you are getting ahead of yourself | 11:50 |
| jelkner | decidim is used to make decisions | 11:50 |
| jelkner | it means "We decide" in Catalan | 11:50 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:50 |
| jelkner | it is Tony who really helped me understand this | 11:51 |
| dcammue | how are you jelkner | 11:51 |
| jelkner | it is *not* a project management system | 11:51 |
| jelkner | so what we need to do is to get NoVASEN folks to weigh-in on, and then decide (hopefully) to support the initiative already posted. | 11:51 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 11:52 |
| jelkner | https://novasen.org/assemblies/nova-solidarity-econ/f/53/debates/13 | 11:52 |
| jelkner | we don't need any more proposals in the decidim at this point | 11:53 |
| jelkner | it is now political work | 11:53 |
| jelkner | we (klarios, rachel, sahnun, and jelkner) need to promote this idea and encourage folks to support it | 11:53 |
| jelkner | that will take time | 11:53 |
| jelkner | so, even though i know you are eager to get moving | 11:53 |
| jelkner | we are blocking on that | 11:53 |
| jelkner | and need to wait until we can reach a place where NoVASEN can "approve" the support | 11:54 |
| jelkner | we don't even know how to approve anything yet | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | okay, so what is my task now? | 11:54 |
| jelkner | since we haven't established our governance | 11:54 |
| fkoikoi | what is my actual task now? | 11:54 |
| jelkner | that's a great question! | 11:55 |
| jelkner | and sadly, fkoikoi, i don't have a clear answer | 11:55 |
| jelkner | here is what i would suggest | 11:55 |
| jelkner | you can use the blocking time to continue your basic web studies | 11:55 |
| fkoikoi | sure | 11:56 |
| jelkner | if we are doing web development, we all need to know basic html, csss | 11:56 |
| jelkner | ask dcammue and tboihmah for ideas | 11:56 |
| jelkner | dcammue, can we talk? | 11:56 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:56 |
| dcammue | sure | 11:56 |
| jelkner | none of you came to the Django class yesterday | 11:56 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:56 |
| jelkner | did you see the logs | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Karaa, Josh and Ben were looking for you | 11:57 |
| dcammue | i was online till 5pm my time | 11:57 |
| dcammue | and i slept off | 11:57 |
| jelkner | believe me, i know how hard this is | 11:57 |
| dcammue | i woke up and everyone left already | 11:57 |
| jelkner | but we loose time when nobody shows | 11:57 |
| jelkner | fortunately, they are top students | 11:58 |
| jelkner | and can move forward on their own | 11:58 |
| dcammue | our apologies | 11:58 |
| jelkner | i asked Kara to email the Matorral devs | 11:58 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: we missed you in class yesterday | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro_ | Sorry jelkner I lost track | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | Good jelkner | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | *morning | 11:59 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro_: you too | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | Sorry about that | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro_ | Good morning jelkner | 11:59 |
| thomasboimah | I though you guys was on break | 11:59 |
| jelkner | listen, as i keep saying | 11:59 |
| jelkner | we will always make mistakes | 11:59 |
| gabriel_jetro_ | Once again my apology | 11:59 |
| jelkner | the error rate will never go to 0 | 11:59 |
| jelkner | but we need to keep it low | 12:00 |
| jelkner | yesterday it was 100% for jetro web :-( | 12:00 |
| jelkner | 3 of 3 of you did not show up | 12:00 |
| jelkner | that can be demoralizing | 12:00 |
| jelkner | and kill progress | 12:00 |
| jelkner | our schedule here is crazy | 12:00 |
| jelkner | we get that | 12:00 |
| jelkner | so the lesson is about the need to improve communication | 12:01 |
| jelkner | oops | 12:01 |
| jelkner | i lost the clock | 12:01 |
| dcammue | On Tuesday, I work on the Jetro Web Attendance and completed it, it is now ready for use https://github.com/dcammue/JetrowebAttendence. The application is not hosted yet but you can test it by following the instruction from the repository. Today, i will work with thomasboimah on finding the best way to hosting the SECOSOL GnuCash database on Mayfirst server. | 12:01 |
| svaye | On did a lot of reading on Liberia tax law so I could start applying it to our books this is what I have gather so far that has to do with the type of business we operate in Liberia https://codeberg.org/svaye/pages/src/branch/main/jetrowebtax.md , and jelkner also mentioned us working on the business plan and this is the draft I did https://codeberg.org/klarios/Business_Management/src/branch/main/jetroweb.md, I believe dcammue and I can take a look at | 12:01 |
| svaye | that today.No blockers | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday I reached out to Mayfirst support about Jeff's request to use PostgreSQL with GnuCash for collaborative bookkeeping, and I received a response from Jamie. Unfortunately, direct remote connections to PostgreSQL are not allowed on Mayfirst's shared hosting due to their security policy. However, Jamie suggested a workaround using SSH tunneling, where users establish an SSH connection to the web server first and then forward the port | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | connection to the PostgreSQL server, making it appear as if the database is running locally. Jamie provided an example command: ssh -L local_port:remote_db_host:remote_db_port user@remote_ssh_server. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i submitted my UoPeople writing assignment and began researching NGOs in Liberia (see https://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/PeoplesSchoolLiberia). I'm also setting up a PHP learning environment for one of my students, which may be something cjones and I use on our ict.gracehopper.center website next year. Today i will prepare for cjones and my presentation at the VCCS OER, Distance Education, and Technology | 12:01 |
| jelkner | Peer to Peer Group Conference tomorrow and Friday. No blockers. | 12:01 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | My next steps today are to create a new PostgreSQL database on our SECOSOL membership specifically for GnuCash (separate from the existing website database). Since this is shared hosting and I don't have sudo access, I'll then need to email Jamie to set up the role structure Jeff documented. Once the database and roles are set up, we'll test the SSH tunneling approach with the team. No blockers. | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 12:01 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: i saw jamie's email | 12:02 |
| jelkner | keep in mind we are investigating here | 12:02 |
| jelkner | if it turns out ssh tunneling is too complicated for users | 12:02 |
| fkoikoi | Yesterday I did some practice on html and css. I also did a research on the kamal foundation. Today I place to continue with my html and css practice while i waits for a suitable time form the team (jelkner and the rest) to start the school project using Decidim | 12:02 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 12:02 |
| jelkner | we need to abandon the plan for now, and seek another approach | 12:03 |
| jelkner | which will most likely be running our own database server | 12:03 |
| jelkner | so, thomasboimah, please keep working with zOnny to get a handle on *all* our linodes! | 12:03 |
| jelkner | and let's keep removing the ones we don't use | 12:03 |
| jelkner | we will need some | 12:03 |
| jelkner | but i just want to make sure we minimize the number | 12:04 |
| jelkner | and utilize them effectively | 12:04 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | Dose that mean we will not go with the plan on moving the database to mayfirst again? | 12:04 |
| jelkner | that will be your call, my dear friend | 12:04 |
| jelkner | you should continue with the investigation until you feel you can make a recommendation | 12:05 |
| thomasboimah | Because if you ask me ssh Tunneling will not be bad | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i'm not saying i know ssh tunneling is too complicated | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i just fear it might be | 12:05 |
| jelkner | how do you tell GnuCash to use it? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | if that is not a real pain, then we are good | 12:05 |
| jelkner | but if we can't easily do that, we are blocked | 12:06 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:06 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 12:06 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | btw. (and dcammue and svaye, this is for you too) | 12:06 |
| jelkner | when i hire Jetro to look into something, the hours you spend investigating are billable | 12:06 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:06 |
| jelkner | even if you come back with a well researched argument not to proceed | 12:07 |
| jelkner | no can do is an ok outcome, as long as it is based on a solid investigation | 12:07 |
| jelkner | then we iterate and look for an alternative approach | 12:07 |
| jelkner | that's tech for you! | 12:07 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:08 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:08 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:08 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: i have one more idea for you | 12:08 |
| jelkner | it should be fun | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i want jetro to look into a hexchat notification hack for dcammue | 12:09 |
| jelkner | hexchat supports notification | 12:09 |
| jelkner | s | 12:09 |
| jelkner | so here is my user story: | 12:09 |
| jelkner | As a project manager and marketing person for NOVA / Jetro Web Development, I want to be able to reach dcammue at unplanned times by typing his nick into the #jetrowebdev chat so that we can improve our communication. | 12:10 |
| jelkner | so imagine this | 12:11 |
| jelkner | dcammue is napping, and jelkner logs into irc to look for him | 12:11 |
| jelkner | When jelkner types "dcammue, are you here?" into hexchat | 12:11 |
| jelkner | a light lights up and a sweet sound plays ;-) | 12:12 |
| jelkner | so that dcammue knows to look at the console | 12:12 |
| jelkner | anyway, its just a fun idea | 12:12 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before i go? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | i won't be in class tomorrow thomasboimah dcammue gabriel_jetro | 12:13 |
| jelkner | but Kara, Josh and Ben will | 12:13 |
| jelkner | please meet with them (at least one of you!() | 12:13 |
| dcammue | yes jelkner | 12:13 |
| gabriel_jetro | What about jgarara, because that's my peer | 12:13 |
| jelkner | that's Josh gabriel_jetro | 12:13 |
| jelkner | hold on | 12:13 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:13 |
| dcammue | before you go can we talk on the jetroweb attendance? | 12:13 |
| dcammue | *application | 12:14 |
| jelkner | what do you mean attendance? | 12:15 |
| dcammue | https://github.com/dcammue/JetrowebAttendence | 12:16 |
| dcammue | for tracking jetroweb workers hours | 12:16 |
| jelkner | you're writing a new one? | 12:17 |
| jelkner | what about business tracker? | 12:17 |
| dcammue | can we host it on mayfirst? | 12:17 |
| dcammue | that's just my dream i try to put into reality | 12:18 |
| jelkner | what is "it" dcammue? | 12:19 |
| dcammue | this might be slightly different from business tracker, even though, i have not seen it yet | 12:19 |
| dcammue | it is a django application for tracking worker hours | 12:20 |
| jelkner | dcammue, this is great that we are having this discussion | 12:20 |
| jelkner | it shows how far we have come | 12:20 |
| jelkner | *and* how far we have to go! ;-) | 12:20 |
| jelkner | if you all want to develop an hours tracker as a learning task | 12:21 |
| jelkner | that is great | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but remember the hours working on it will not be billable | 12:21 |
| jelkner | business tracker already tracks hours | 12:21 |
| jelkner | it even tracks hours by task | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i will be willing to pay for improvements to business tracker | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but it is a complex app | 12:22 |
| jelkner | and i don't know if even thomasboimah is ready to hack on it yet | 12:22 |
| jelkner | though he and zOnny were looking into it last weekend | 12:22 |
| jelkner | none of these tools are any use at all if we don't use them | 12:22 |
| jelkner | that is a social engineering challenge, not a technical one | 12:22 |
| jelkner | it means developing a culture of practice | 12:23 |
| jelkner | where the community gets used to doing certain things | 12:23 |
| jelkner | like meeting here on irc, for example | 12:23 |
| jelkner | i worked so hard to get us all used to doing this | 12:23 |
| jelkner | i'm old, so i have some experience | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i've made more mistakes than i can count (or remember) | 12:24 |
| jelkner | but i try to learn from them | 12:24 |
| jelkner | the challenge will be getting people to use a tool as part of their daily routine | 12:24 |
| jelkner | same problem the tech giants have | 12:24 |
| jelkner | they want people hooked on Facebook, TicTock, etc. | 12:25 |
| jelkner | so that you are there *all the time* | 12:25 |
| jelkner | that's how they make their money | 12:25 |
| jelkner | anyway | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we need to develop an effective workflow | 12:25 |
| jelkner | and then comes the hard part | 12:25 |
| jelkner | getting us accustomed to following it! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | that's the harder part | 12:26 |
| jelkner | one things devs like to do is write code | 12:26 |
| jelkner | so they want to just develop new apps | 12:26 |
| jelkner | its fun for them | 12:26 |
| dcammue | sure | 12:26 |
| jelkner | they don't worry about getting people to use them | 12:26 |
| jelkner | that's the job of us business managers, dcammue, svaye, jelkner | 12:27 |
| jelkner | so we really need to think clearly | 12:27 |
| jelkner | we will want to learn to use business tracker for hours | 12:27 |
| jelkner | Stefan built it | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and it does a lot | 12:28 |
| jelkner | not enough, mind you, but alot | 12:28 |
| jelkner | it certainly does hours | 12:28 |
| jelkner | what we will want is to reach the point where Jetro can hack on it | 12:28 |
| jelkner | think about its advantages: | 12:28 |
| jelkner | 1. It already has hundreds of hours of dev time in it. | 12:29 |
| jelkner | 2. It supports many of the features we want to track our business, since we built it for us. | 12:29 |
| jelkner | 3. It has nice marketing materials. | 12:29 |
| jelkner | https://businesstracker.org/ | 12:29 |
| jelkner | so if we can get to the point where y'all can hack on it | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it will be a huge marketing plus for us | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it is a central part of our "portfolio" | 12:30 |
| jelkner | when we show perspective customers what we can do | 12:30 |
| jelkner | (what our skills are) | 12:30 |
| jelkner | we point them to that | 12:30 |
| jelkner | https://libreorganize.org/ | 12:31 |
| jelkner | this one too | 12:31 |
| jelkner | Now that doesn't mean that you all shouldn't try to built your own things as you learn | 12:32 |
| jelkner | you need to practice | 12:32 |
| jelkner | and i think your hours tracker is great practice! | 12:32 |
| jelkner | but i can't afford to pay for too much more practice | 12:33 |
| jelkner | since we need to get NOVA and Jetro on a sound business footing | 12:33 |
| jelkner | or we won't survive long | 12:33 |
| jelkner | is this making sense? | 12:34 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:34 |
| dcammue | but i am not saying i want pay | 12:34 |
| jelkner | right | 12:34 |
| jelkner | so what are you asking me about it? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | if you want to use it now with Jetro only so you can get the info you need to write your monthly bookkeeping | 12:35 |
| jelkner | that's a *great* idea | 12:35 |
| dcammue | i just you guys to test it and tell me the experience | 12:35 |
| jelkner | "you guys"? NO! YOU GUYS! | 12:35 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:35 |
| jelkner | dcammue: you are the business manager for Jetro | 12:35 |
| jelkner | get your people to test it | 12:35 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:36 |
| jelkner | don't bother us with that ;-) | 12:36 |
| jelkner | we are very busy | 12:36 |
| jelkner | and you are closer to the problem | 12:36 |
| dcammue | i will do for only you my friend. just kidding | 12:36 |
| jelkner | it makes so much more sense for you to manage Jetro members | 12:36 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:36 |
| jelkner | in all seriousness, this is a great opportunity for Jetro to dogfood | 12:36 |
| jelkner | both technically and socially | 12:37 |
| jelkner | you are building a tool for yourselves | 12:37 |
| jelkner | and using it to accomplish important internal business needs | 12:37 |
| jelkner | if y'all want to get paid, you need to track your hours! | 12:37 |
| dcammue | great | 12:38 |
| jelkner | eventually, when your lead dev thomasboimah says y'all are ready | 12:38 |
| jelkner | we (meaning Jetro *and* NOVA) can start using Business Tracker together | 12:38 |
| jelkner | that will mean a switch for Jetro members | 12:38 |
| jelkner | but hopefully not a painful one | 12:38 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:39 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:39 |
| jelkner | let me leave now | 12:39 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we are making incredible progress! | 12:39 |
| dcammue | you are free man now | 12:39 |
| jelkner | i can't begin to tell you how excited i am by the way this is moving forward | 12:40 |
| dcammue | you can go anywhere you want | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i'll be at a conference on friday | 12:40 |
| jelkner | but i *think* i can make the meeting | 12:40 |
| jelkner | no promises | 12:40 |
| jelkner | saturday i'll be there | 12:40 |
| dcammue | copied | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:40 |
| jelkner | thanks my wonderful friends | 12:40 |
| jelkner | have a great evening | 12:40 |
| dcammue | you to | 12:41 |
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| jelkner | Hello dcammue | 15:18 |
| jelkner | and mulbah | 15:18 |
| jelkner | are either of you here? | 15:18 |
| dcammue | hello jelkner | 15:21 |
| dcammue | how are you | 15:22 |
| jelkner | fine, and you? | 15:22 |
| jelkner | can you see this: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12O0WZFU1j_tWz19Bp04gExoBX7tSLemS | 15:22 |
| mulbah | Hello jeff | 15:23 |
| jelkner | hello mulbah | 15:23 |
| dcammue | it asking me for access | 15:23 |
| jelkner | ahh | 15:23 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 15:23 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:23 |
| jelkner | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1klMNh1bfrVluStpRoz_CoJhA-qW-b2t3/view?usp=sharing | 15:24 |
| jelkner | how about that? | 15:24 |
| jelkner | well, dcammue? | 15:25 |
| dcammue | i saw three people in the image | 15:25 |
| jelkner | yes indeed | 15:25 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:25 |
| jelkner | those 3 people are Josh, Ben, and Kara | 15:25 |
| jelkner | can we get a picture on your end of Gabriel, you, and Thomas? | 15:26 |
| jelkner | it's a nice way to get to know each other a little better | 15:26 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:26 |
| jelkner | you can share it with them tomorrow | 15:26 |
| jelkner | i won't be there | 15:26 |
| jelkner | but they will | 15:26 |
| dcammue | so those are the students we usually meet with? | 15:27 |
| jelkner | yes, my friend, Josh, Ben and Kara | 15:28 |
| gabriel_jetro | I've seen it jelkner | 15:28 |
| dcammue | and who is my peer | 15:28 |
| jelkner | Gabriel is working with Josh, Daniel is working with Ben, and Thomas is working with Kara | 15:28 |
| jelkner | i believe that is correct | 15:29 |
| jelkner | you all should know better than me | 15:29 |
| dcammue | ben is the blackman? | 15:29 |
| jelkner | Kara's nick is Karaa | 15:29 |
| gabriel_jetro | So who's the black person and how many male is there in the photo | 15:29 |
| jelkner | They are in order from left to right: Josh, Ben, and Kara | 15:30 |
| mulbah | it's just one gabriel_jetro | 15:30 |
| jelkner | ok, i need to go again | 15:30 |
| jelkner | dcammue: it was nice dropping in and seeing you here | 15:30 |
| jelkner | that is what we want to aim for | 15:30 |
| dcammue | sweet | 15:30 |
| jelkner | when you are running a proper business | 15:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yep, but it's seems like two ladies in the photo | 15:31 |
| jelkner | people should be able to "drop in" during business hours | 15:31 |
| jelkner | and contact you this way | 15:31 |
| jelkner | it's great | 15:31 |
| jelkner | No, Ben is not a lady, he just has long hair | 15:31 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ohk | 15:32 |
| dcammue | he has the golden hair | 15:32 |
| gabriel_jetro | Lol 😆 | 15:32 |
| mulbah | haha | 15:32 |
| mulbah | he look like a female | 15:32 |
| jelkner | mulbah: a word on cultural sensitivity | 15:33 |
| jelkner | this is a publically logged chat, so let's avoid discussion that are personal or potentially sensitive | 15:33 |
| jelkner | that is a good best practice | 15:34 |
| jelkner | we are here to collaborate | 15:34 |
| mulbah | okay jeff | 15:34 |
| jelkner | and we keep our conversation professional and respectful | 15:34 |
| jelkner | hopefully at all times | 15:34 |
| jelkner | we're human, so mistakes may crop up | 15:34 |
| jelkner | but our success means minimizing them | 15:34 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sure jelkner | 15:35 |
| jelkner | btw, i'm hoping to take this class at UoPeople next term: https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/course/managing-in-the-global-economy/ | 15:36 |
| jelkner | it will give me a chance to write a lot about: | 15:37 |
| jelkner | 1. Identify and distinguish professional cultural norms and their importance within an organization. | 15:37 |
| jelkner | 2. Examine the central importance of Cultural and Emotional Intelligences to today’s leaders. | 15:37 |
| jelkner | 3. Examine the impact of cultural norms on relationship building and explore the complexities of building cross-cultural teams. | 15:37 |
| jelkner | 5. Employ strategic thinking, cultural intelligence and other competencies to build teams that can function in culturally diverse and complex environments. | 15:37 |
| jelkner | Just the kind of thing we will need for the Jetro / NOVA collaboration to work, right? | 15:38 |
| dcammue | =1 | 15:38 |
| dcammue | +1 | 15:38 |
| jelkner | This course will be much more fun for me than the one I'm in now! | 15:39 |
| jelkner | I am learning a lot in my current course, but it is often painful ;-) | 15:39 |
| jelkner | dcammue, since you are studying business, you may find the paper I submitted yesterday interesting: https://elkner.net/static/UoPeople/ComparingInvestmentYieldsInAFinancialPortfolio.pdf | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i put any paper that i think may be of use to us on my website: https://elkner.net/ | 15:40 |
| jelkner | and i try real hard to make them useful to us | 15:41 |
| jelkner | if they aren't, i'm wasting my time! | 15:41 |
| dcammue | wow, that nice i will take a look after this | 15:41 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, gotta run | 15:41 |
| jelkner | great chatting with you | 15:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | jelkner: are they senior student | 15:41 |
| dcammue | what is their educational status? | 15:42 |
| dcammue | class level | 15:42 |
| jelkner | Josh, Ben and Kara? | 15:42 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 15:42 |
| dcammue | +1 | 15:42 |
| dcammue | high school? | 15:42 |
| jelkner | They are sophomores in high school | 15:42 |
| jelkner | 2nd year | 15:42 |
| jelkner | i will have them in class 2 more years | 15:42 |
| dcammue | 11 grade | 15:43 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ohk | 15:43 |
| jelkner | 10th grade | 15:43 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:43 |
| jelkner | they are the top students in our program | 15:43 |
| jelkner | bright and highly motivated | 15:43 |
| dcammue | that's grate | 15:43 |
| jelkner | so they finished the year long course early | 15:43 |
| jelkner | that's why they are in a group by themselves | 15:43 |
| gabriel_jetro | I see | 15:43 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, by for now... | 15:44 |
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| dcammue | mulbah, | 15:45 |
| dcammue | hmmmm | 15:45 |
| mulbah | yes | 15:45 |
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