IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Sunday, 2026-03-15

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jkolliethomasboimah: to ⁰0000⁰14:04
jelknerjkollie, we are in the meeting waiting on our president!14:09
jkollieAm about to join 14:09
jkollieI expected it to be 3pm14:10
jelknerHi jkollie 14:26
jelknerthe meeting is over14:26
jelknerjkollie, can you see this?14:26
jelknerhello?14:27
jkollieJelkner 14:35
jkolliejelkner: am here 14:35
jelknerwhere are you?14:36
jelknerwhere is daniel?14:37
jelknerand wher is thomas?14:37
jkollieAm at the office Daniel went to church 14:37
jelknergot you14:37
jelknerwhat about thomas?14:37
jkollieThomasboimah just arrived few minutes ago 14:37
jelknercan you ask him to get on irc please?14:38
jkollieI misunderstood the time I thought the meeting was going to start by 3pm my time 14:39
thomasboimahHi jelkner 14:39
jkolliejelkner: 14:39
jelknerthomasboimah, i'm not a happy camper right now, as the expression goes :-(14:40
jelknerjkollie, just missed our monthly meeting14:40
jelknerand i thought you had this covered, thomasboimah 14:40
jelknerso it wouldn't happen14:40
jelknerwe only meet once a month14:40
thomasboimahI did but she lost track of the time14:40
jelknerwhen i say "you have it covered", thomasboimah 14:40
jelknerhere is what i mean:14:41
jelkner1. You are in the room with her, sitting beside her14:41
jelkner2. You keep track of the time14:41
jelkner3. You make sure she can connect14:41
jelknerthat's what i mean by "you have it covered"14:41
jelknerso today, you didn't have it covered14:41
jelknerhopefully next month you will14:41
jelknersince if this happens again next month14:41
jelknerit will suggest we can't have a board president in liberia, since they can't show to our meetings14:42
jelknerok, that's all i have to say on that14:42
jelknerunless you do14:42
thomasboimahSorry about this jelkner, this will not happen again14:42
jelknerthanks14:42
thomasboimahI give you my word14:42
jkollieam really sorry jelkner we don't have to come to that 14:43
jelknerjkollie, we'll get it right next month14:43
jelknerkeep in mind how important it is14:43
jelknerok, while i have you thomasboimah and zOnny 14:43
jkollieI will jelkner 14:44
jelknerthe most important discussion of the board meeting was Devesh's presentation on the laptop campaign14:44
jelknerhe suggested that Ved's younger sister Arya, who is along with Devesh one of the most active members of the SE Business Club, that they have ideas for fundraising that involve cash donations instead of laptop donations14:45
jelknerdevesh asked me if cash is ok14:45
jelknerand i told him... HELL YEAH!!!!14:45
jelknerso zOnny and thomasboimah 14:45
zOnnyjelkner: yes?14:46
jelkneri may need to put you in touch with devesh when you have the first draft of the new SJC website ready14:46
thomasboimah+114:46
jelknerso you can incorporate their donation campaign14:46
jelknerwe are running short on time14:46
jelknerbut it would be awesome if we could get donations to SJC from someone other than me14:47
zOnnyjelkner: I see14:47
zOnnyjelkner: donation campaign, you mean?14:47
jelknerthomasboimah, zOnny and i had a delightful meeting this morning with J.J.14:47
jelknerzOnny, yes14:48
zOnnyjelkner: accepting cash donations?14:48
thomasboimahThat's good to hear14:48
jelkner+114:48
jelknerthomasboimah, i get both happy and nervous at the same time14:48
jelknersince it means we could be moving forward14:48
zOnnyjelkner: Do you want it to be registered in the new SJC website?14:48
thomasboimahSo it is donation Campaign not Laptop campaign again jelkner ?14:48
jelknerit also means we could fail to step up and be professional14:48
jelknerand the whole thing falls apart14:49
jelknerzOnny, +114:49
jelknerwe need to use open collective14:49
jelknerhttps://opencollective.com/14:49
zOnnyjelkner: ok14:49
zOnnyjelkner: it would be just an external link then14:49
jelknerthis could be a good opportunity for us to learn that14:49
jelkneri just found out about this from devesh now14:50
jelknerso it was a surprise to me14:50
zOnnyjelkner: that is great14:50
jelknerit *could* be great14:50
zOnnyjelkner: who is going to create the open collective?14:50
jelknerbut only if we are ready to handle it14:50
jelkneri was hoping NOVA Web would14:51
zOnnyjelkner: we got it jelkner14:51
jelknerSJC would hire y'all to do all of this14:51
jelknernot yet zOnny 14:51
jelkneri only just heard about it14:51
jelknerand we need to make sure that SEBC (solidarity economy business club) is really ready to move on it14:51
jelknerotherwise it just becomes another responsibility for me14:52
jelknerand i can't handle that14:52
zOnnyjelkner: Indedd14:52
zOnny**Indeed14:52
jelknerso let's move ahead deliberately and intelligently14:52
jelknerfirst step is just getting the SJC website up14:52
zOnnyjelkner: Let's get timeline then14:53
zOnnyjelkner: yes14:53
jelknerzOnny, i just created service@novawebdevelopment.coop14:53
zOnnyjelkner: thanks14:53
jelknerthat's for j.j. to use now14:53
zOnnyjelkner: It is14:54
jelkneri'm going to call tony and kei now14:54
jelknerand then i have to get back to UoP work14:54
jelknerthat's it for me14:54
jelknersee you next week zOnny 14:54
thomasboimahjelkner, 14:54
thomasboimahWho is j.j?14:54
jelknerit was great having breakfast with you!14:54
jelknerthomasboimah, zOnny will tell you14:54
jelknerbye all...14:54
thomasboimahOkay14:54
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thomasboimahzOnny, who is j.j?14:55
zOnnyjelkner: leave the bag of gravel14:55
zOnnyHi thomasboimah 14:55
thomasboimahHi zOnny 14:55
zOnnyJ.J. is a old school friend that used to go to the same school with me14:55
zOnnyJ.J. is looking for a website services for his business14:56
zOnnyJ.J. is looking for a bilingual website for now and he has some ideas that he want's to bring it with it 14:57
zOnnythomasboimah: We have agreed that we will email him and get in touch with him soon14:57
thomasboimahNice14:58
zOnnythomasboimah: that is why Jelkner created the service email14:58
zOnnythomasboimah: we need one to reach out clients14:58
jkollieACTION leaving 14:58
zOnnythomasboimah: I see this project in two phases14:58
zOnnyjkollie: 14:58
zOnnyjkollie: I heard you are the president of the SJCompute14:59
zOnnyjkollie: I was about to send an email to you14:59
zOnnyjkollie: but it will be better if I ask for it here14:59
jkollieOkay zOnny 15:00
zOnnyjkollie: would you be able to help me with the board member list and their roles?15:00
zOnnyjkollie: jelkner was saying that it will important to have it in the website15:00
jkollieAlright give me a few minute15:00
zOnnyyou can send it to edzon.quinteros@novawebdevelopment.coop15:01
zOnnyjkollie: thank you in advance15:01
jkollieYou are welcome 15:01
zOnnyjkollie: that's all form me15:02
zOnny**from15:02
zOnnythomasboimah: I see this project in two phases15:02
thomasboimahzOnny, will you need me to take part in the improvement of the sjcompute website or you and nana will be the one doing that?15:02
jkollieAlright zOnny 15:02
zOnnythomasboimah: the SJC website can be done today, with the transition to a bilingual language 15:03
zOnnythomasboimah: I would like to take part of if after it is deployed 15:04
zOnnythomasboimah: Updating it with the new design15:05
zOnnythomasboimah: that nana will present soon15:05
thomasboimahOkay15:05
zOnnythomasboimah: are you ok with it?15:05
thomasboimahsure15:05
zOnnythomasboimah: also I'm about to push the organizations feature for the Jetro and Nova Web Dev BT15:06
zOnnythomasboimah: I was working all night on it15:06
thomasboimahThanks15:08
zOnnythomasboimah: this will allow Jetro projects and NovaWebDev project to not get mixup15:08
zOnnythomasboimah: especially with invoicing 15:08
thomasboimahyes!15:09
thomasboimahthat is the mean concern15:09
zOnnythomasboimah: give me 30min and you can test it out15:10
zOnnythomasboimah: for J.J. project15:10
zOnnysame functionality 15:10
zOnnyI can take care of the deployment15:11
zOnnythomasboimah: I see J.J. website mostly for nana 15:12
zOnnythomasboimah: J.J. is looking for marketing in social media and a website to look professional15:12
zOnnythomasboimah: so we agreed to get him in touch with nana15:12
zOnnythomasboimah: Nana is good at social media business design15:13
zOnnythomasboimah: First step is to get his logo done15:14
zOnnythomasboimah: after that we can decide on getting the website up15:14
zOnnythomasboimah: does that sounds good?15:14
thomasboimahyes15:15
zOnnythomasboimah: you can deploy it if you are willing to take over15:15
zOnnythomasboimah: if I'm too busy I will let you know15:15
thomasboimahokay15:15
zOnnythomasboimah: due that I'm polishing the BT and LO15:15
zOnnythomasboimah: we need to make the BT and LO work for our internal use first15:16
zOnnythomasboimah: that is my priority15:16
zOnnythomasboimah: we shouldn't deploy on fragile not tested apps at this point15:17
zOnnythomasboimah: deploying get easy15:17
zOnnythomasboimah: We as developers need to make sure that changes and features should not get mixup in the core structure15:18
zOnnythomasboimah: That is what we need to aim for the future websites15:18
thomasboimahsure15:19
zOnnythomasboimah: let me push the changes for the BT15:20
zOnnyhold on15:20
zOnnythomasboimah: do you have questions?15:20
thomasboimah-115:21
zOnnythomasboimah: Also nana should get back to me with the Jetro logo Design15:21
thomasboimahGreat15:22
zOnnythomasboimah: I did mention her about it15:22
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zOnnythomasboimah: are you here?16:25
thomasboimah+116:25
zOnnythomasboimah: sorry I'm taking time understanding my logics 16:25
zOnnythomasboimah: quick question16:25
zOnnyi was looking at the projects apps we have in BT16:26
zOnnythomasboimah: Don't you think after creating a project should this be assigned to an account?16:27
thomasboimahyes16:28
zOnnythomasboimah: the logic I see in project is that it serves the shifts when an account wants to track time they spend time in a project they pick16:28
zOnnythomasboimah: that is all16:29
zOnnybut any account can work on any project16:29
zOnnythomasboimah:I feel like projects can get better if the project is assigned to an account and that account notices that he has projects that has been assigned to him16:30
thomasboimahSure just like my ToDo app16:31
zOnnythomasboimah: or is just me going crazy and it isn't meant to be that way16:31
thomasboimahit tell you who created the project and who the project is assign to16:31
zOnnythomasboimah: I'm trying to understand the logic on the project app16:32
zOnnythomasboimah: so why we are trying to add another todo app into the BT16:32
zOnnythomasboimah: when we can improve the projects app and get it assigned to an account16:32
thomasboimahNice point 16:33
thomasboimahInstead of build todo from scratch we can improve the project app16:33
thomasboimah*building16:33
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thomasboimahzOnny, do you want me to work on that17:45
thomasboimah?17:45
zOnnythomasboimah: on what?17:45
zOnnythomasboimah: the projects feature update?17:45
thomasboimahImproving the project app17:46
thomasboimahSo that we will not need to build another todo from scratch17:46
zOnnythomasboimah: yes, you can try to update it17:47
zOnnythomasboimah: you can checkout in another branch from the branch I'm about to push17:48
zOnnythomasboimah: almost there17:49
zOnnythomasboimah: give me few more minutes17:49
thomasboimahokay17:49
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zOnnythomasboimah: alright thomasboimah 18:24
zOnnyit took me forever getting this feature18:26
thomasboimahI am also currently work on the improvement of the project app18:28
thomasboimahIs their suggestion you will want to make18:29
thomasboimah*working18:29
zOnnythomasboimah: not really18:33
zOnnythomasboimah: we need to hear from the users18:33
zOnnythomasboimah: they are the ones who are going to use it18:34
thomasboimahSo what we will do with penrosian work after this?18:34
zOnnythomasboimah: https://tracker.sjcompute.org/18:43
zOnnydo you see your organization name?18:43
thomasboimahyes18:43
zOnnythomasboimah: cool18:44
thomasboimahNice work18:44
thomasboimahThanks zOnny 18:44
zOnnyyou as a manager can move between organizations18:46
zOnnythomasboimah: and only see organizations projects18:46
zOnnythomasboimah: also when invoicing18:46
zOnnythomasboimah: you will also she only organization related work18:47
zOnnythomasboimah: developers cannot change their organization18:47
zOnnyneither see other organization partners18:47
zOnnythomasboimah: but manager can see it all18:48
zOnnythomasboimah: since they are the top of the list18:48
thomasboimahI am trying to switch but not working18:48
zOnnygo to edit account18:49
zOnnythomasboimah: there you will see organzation dropdown18:49
thomasboimahgot you18:49
zOnnyI added only Nova Web Development and Jetro18:49
thomasboimahthis is on the feat/multi-organization branch right, yes?18:50
zOnnythomasboimah: right18:51
thomasboimahso you pull that branch to the server?18:52
zOnnyI did18:52
thomasboimahI was thinking that you was going to merge it to the master branch before pulling to the server.18:52
zOnnythomasboimah: We can merge to master18:53
zOnnythomasboimah: however not everyone would like that feature18:53
zOnnythomasboimah: I will think about it18:53
zOnnythomasboimah: before merging it18:53
thomasboimahokay 18:54
thomasboimahSo zOnny after i am done with the improvement with project app, what do you plan to do with penrosian code?18:55
zOnnythomasboimah: I would like to keep going with it18:59
zOnnythomasboimah: since it is a feature that probably can live within the BT18:59
zOnnythomasboimah: like many other apps19:00
thomasboimahcool19:00
zOnnythomasboimah: if penrosian app is useful and delivers what users want 19:00
zOnnythomasboimah: we should enable it 19:01
thomasboimahSo it seem like in the tech field the user get the final decision19:01
zOnnythomasboimah: It is a game where sometimes users don't know what they want19:06
zOnnythomasboimah: the goal for devs is that the features need to make sense19:06
zOnnythomasboimah: if doesn't make sense, dev have no other alternative to build the feature for that specific client only19:07
thomasboimahsure19:08
thomasboimahzOnny, it is 7:00pm here19:11
zOnnythomasboimah: we can call it a day19:13
zOnnythomasboimah: I'm going to move forward with SJC 19:13
zOnnythomasboimah: see you next weekend19:14
thomasboimahokay19:14
zOnnyDo you have any questions?19:14
thomasboimahNO all good, watch out for my branch on the BT project app19:15
zOnnythomasboimah: will do19:15
thomasboimahHave a nice day19:15
zOnnyACTION signs of for the day19:15
thomasboimahACTION sign off19:15
zOnnyyou too19:15
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