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| mulbah | Good morning to all | 10:56 |
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| fkoikoi | Good morning mulbah | 10:56 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning mulbah | 10:56 |
| jkollie | Good morning mulbah | 10:56 |
| jkollie | And all | 10:57 |
| mulbah | My wife jkollie | 10:57 |
| mulbah | don't worry I kame pay the diary | 10:58 |
| mulbah | and paid thomasboimah off | 10:58 |
| jkollie | Mulbah:😊🤓 | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning jkollie | 10:58 |
| jkollie | Good morning fkoikoi | 10:58 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning jelkner | 10:59 |
| jkollie | Good morning jelkner | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday NOVA Web had a very important meeting with Guillaume from Octree about our Decidim proposal to Next System. Today i will work with Jetro to see if we can get Jetro organized to help both co-ops "launch" over the next few months. Blocking on setting up a work schedule. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | On Wednesday, I worked on my UoPeople assignment. Yesterday, I worked with dcammue to finish the Jetro inventory. Today, I will be studying for my UoPeople final exam for this term and also plan to help teach the person that Nova Web will hire as office manager from Jetro on how to use Business Tracker. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| mulbah | Yesterday I was looking into LO various apps and trying to understand why OPEN International & CIDU left LO and switch to Strikingly | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Yesterday I read on paragraph and text formatting 3 and 4 Today I'll continue and prepare for class. No blocker | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| mulbah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| dcammue | on yesterday, i updated the jetro computer list and prepared the quiz and push it, and do a pull request i discuss with jelkner concerning Nova web office manager but will be discuss better today | 11:00 |
| dcammue | no blocker | 11:01 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| svaye | On Monday I had a wonderful class with jelkner and the others, I didn't go to the office yesterday so I couldn't help dcammue with the class quiz, today I am getting prepared for the quiz. No blockers | 11:01 |
| svaye | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Anyone else? | 11:01 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yesterday I started on the revisions of Django for everybody taught by Dr. Drunk. He discuss about the internet and it existence back in the 90's and also talked about how the web works, today I'll be continuing his lecture, it's an 18hrs on Django discussion starting with the internet, there's no blocker now | 11:01 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Anyone else? | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | yesterday, I read on anchor tag <a> and also did some work on my own page. Today i have a class with jelkner | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | no blocker for now | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| jelkner | great | 11:02 |
| jelkner | that's everyone, right? | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 11:02 |
| mulbah | sure | 11:02 |
| jkollie | +1 | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ok, i have important things to discuss with you this morning | 11:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: i need to start with you | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i have a *big* favor to ask you | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i want to ask if you can please take the next term off from UoPeople | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | I can do that | 11:03 |
| jelkner | thanks, my friend! | 11:04 |
| jelkner | we need you | 11:04 |
| thomasboimah | You're welcome | 11:04 |
| jelkner | we are in essence launching our business now | 11:04 |
| jelkner | our team for nova web is: | 11:05 |
| jelkner | https://novawebdevelopment.coop/our-team/ | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we had an important meeting yesterday | 11:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you aren't "Treasurer" | 11:06 |
| jelkner | you are "Office Manager" | 11:06 |
| jelkner | your responsibilities will include: contracts, invoices, payroll, bookkeeping | 11:07 |
| dcammue | sweet | 11:07 |
| jelkner | You need to get to know all our partners/customer | 11:08 |
| jelkner | s | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and you need to learn to use BT | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we will need thomasboimah by your side to help with any blockers | 11:08 |
| jelkner | Tony did 5 hours of work for ARTraffice | 11:08 |
| jelkner | Tony did 5 hours of work for ARTraffic | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we bill them at $100 per hour | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we need to send them an invoice | 11:08 |
| jelkner | that will be your task | 11:09 |
| jelkner | also, dcammue, we need to start putting all this on a sound business footing | 11:09 |
| svaye | jelkner, what's their email address | 11:09 |
| jelkner | for better and/or worse, we need to learn conduct our business through contracts | 11:10 |
| jelkner | svaye: it should be in BT | 11:10 |
| jelkner | if it isn't, that's a bug we need to fix | 11:10 |
| jelkner | svaye: you can help dcammue with a budget | 11:11 |
| svaye | jelkner, we have only two partners in BT Nova Web and Sjcompute | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ah, that's bad | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we will need to add: Maryland Legislative Latino Caucus | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ARTraffic | 11:11 |
| svaye | yes, if you have a list of all our partners with their necessary information I can create it in BT | 11:12 |
| jelkner | Octree | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and *soon* (we hope!!) Next System | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and Jetro Web | 11:12 |
| jelkner | ask zOnny | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i don't want to get involved in the day to day operations of the business | 11:13 |
| jelkner | remember, i am a volunteer | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i will work to promote your business, and bring you partners and customers | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i will be a partner myself through hiring you to work on projects i need | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but i will not run your business for you | 11:14 |
| jelkner | you all need to learn to do that yourselves | 11:14 |
| jelkner | or i will become the single point of failure, and we will fail | 11:15 |
| jelkner | zOnny is very capable | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you don't need me for any of that now | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you have him | 11:15 |
| jelkner | he will soon be an owner of NOVA Web Development | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i will not be an owner | 11:15 |
| jelkner | questions on that svaye? | 11:16 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner I will ask Zonny for our partners info | 11:16 |
| jelkner | nice! | 11:16 |
| jelkner | he works saturdays and sundays | 11:16 |
| jelkner | he can only do that because he has another job monday to friday as a manger in a coffee shop | 11:16 |
| jelkner | that pays his bills | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so he can afford to work with us | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we've got to change that | 11:17 |
| gabriel_jetro | jelkner: | 11:17 |
| jelkner | but it will take work! | 11:17 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | dcammue: is the inventory in our shared drive on NextCloud? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | i'll look at it if you say it is ready | 11:18 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:18 |
| jelkner | great | 11:18 |
| jelkner | dcammue, svaye, we need to get the books setup for jetro | 11:18 |
| jelkner | you will need a list of all your assests | 11:18 |
| gabriel_jetro | I have problem meeting with zonny on Sunday too early, I can go to church and leave from there by 2pm so I want to appeal to zonny so he can carry the time to evening hours. jelkner | 11:18 |
| jelkner | including things like the generator | 11:18 |
| jelkner | no gabriel_jetro, he can't | 11:18 |
| jelkner | listen, thomasboimah works with zOnny | 11:19 |
| jelkner | you are supposed to work with thomasboimah | 11:19 |
| jelkner | otherwise, you will be stopping zOnny from getting work done | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and we will fail | 11:19 |
| dcammue | the quiz is also pending for pull request | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i need to help protect zOnny's time | 11:19 |
| gabriel_jetro | Understand | 11:19 |
| jelkner | dcammue: let's do that now | 11:20 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:21 |
| jelkner | which repo? i have too many | 11:21 |
| dcammue | the gracehopper the php class | 11:21 |
| jelkner | url please | 11:21 |
| dcammue | https://github.com/gracehoppercenter/ict | 11:22 |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 11:25 |
| jelkner | i need to talk to cjones about thsi | 11:25 |
| jelkner | this | 11:25 |
| jelkner | i can't view a .pdf (it's a binary file) | 11:25 |
| jelkner | so it is hard to "approve the merge" | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i'll do it this time because there are no conflicts | 11:26 |
| jelkner | but binary files don't belong in git repos really | 11:26 |
| jelkner | and we need to work on a better solution | 11:26 |
| jelkner | html, markdown, etc. | 11:26 |
| jelkner | this is why it is going to be crucial to have thomasboimah available to work with you in the office dcammue | 11:27 |
| jelkner | you two are the full time staff | 11:27 |
| jelkner | we'll need to work hard during the next few months to up your skills | 11:27 |
| jelkner | to the point where i can bring customers to you (us) | 11:27 |
| jelkner | hold on... | 11:27 |
| jelkner | this is my fault, not yours, btw | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but it comes from me being too overextended | 11:28 |
| jelkner | my UoPeople class is over!! | 11:28 |
| jelkner | and like thomasboimah, i'm not taking one next term | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so we can focus on starting our business | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, i see you merge the pull request | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | is that right? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i just did thomasboimah | 11:31 |
| jelkner | and i looked at the quiz | 11:31 |
| jelkner | nice work | 11:31 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: we will need to grow our team | 11:32 |
| jelkner | and we will need to work professionally | 11:32 |
| jelkner | so for example | 11:32 |
| jelkner | let's say gabriel_jetro wanted to earn some money | 11:32 |
| jelkner | or mulbah | 11:32 |
| jelkner | they could come to SJC (meaning yours truly ;-) and say... | 11:33 |
| jelkner | "Do you have any work that needs to be done?" | 11:33 |
| jelkner | To which I would say... | 11:33 |
| jelkner | "Damn right we do!!!" | 11:33 |
| jelkner | To which they could say... | 11:33 |
| jelkner | "Anything I could do?" | 11:33 |
| jelkner | To which I would say... | 11:33 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 11:34 |
| dcammue | i sent you a private message | 11:34 |
| jelkner | "We need a small application for our students in our class to take multiple choice quizzes and auto grade them online." | 11:34 |
| jelkner | i don't need that now dcammue | 11:34 |
| dcammue | is the quiz link | 11:35 |
| jelkner | i merged it, downloaded it, and viewed it | 11:35 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:35 |
| gabriel_jetro | jelkner: the dev team can do it | 11:35 |
| dcammue | i know you don't like private | 11:35 |
| jelkner | not yet, gabriel_jetro | 11:35 |
| jelkner | we need to work professionally | 11:35 |
| jelkner | we need a contract between SJC and Jetro | 11:35 |
| jelkner | specifying *in advance* what will be done, when, and for how much | 11:36 |
| jelkner | then you do the work | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and send the invoice | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and get paid | 11:36 |
| jelkner | that's what we need to learn to do | 11:36 |
| jelkner | so we should start practicing with ourselves | 11:36 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:37 |
| dcammue | okay comrade | 11:37 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:37 |
| jelkner | yes indeed comrade, that's what we need! | 11:37 |
| jelkner | so thomasboimah and dcammue will be on salary | 11:37 |
| jelkner | we need that | 11:37 |
| jelkner | and they are too busy to keep tracking their hours constantly for every little thing they do | 11:38 |
| jelkner | we choose them because they demonstrated extraordinary commitment | 11:38 |
| jelkner | we know we can count on them to do what needs to be done | 11:38 |
| jelkner | everyone else works on commission for now | 11:38 |
| jelkner | they get paid when they deliver contracted work | 11:39 |
| jelkner | it's the only way we are going to be able to launch the business | 11:39 |
| jelkner | since we need revenue | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and for revenue we need to deliver value to customers | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and to deliver value to customers we need properly directed labor | 11:40 |
| jelkner | and for that we need accountability | 11:40 |
| jelkner | so let's get started | 11:40 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:41 |
| jelkner | dcammue, thomasboimah, i'll call zOnny later today | 11:41 |
| jelkner | Top of your ToDo list for Saturday will be billing ARTraffic | 11:41 |
| jelkner | invoice must go out this weekend, ok? | 11:41 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 11:41 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:42 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, here's another small ToDo | 11:42 |
| jelkner | get dcammue setup with a novawebdevelopment.coop email address | 11:42 |
| jelkner | and add him to members@ | 11:42 |
| thomasboimah | Okay will do that now! | 11:42 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION me going to setup dcammue now | 11:43 |
| jelkner | when you can, please help jkollie get two email addresses: janet.kollie@sjcompute.org | 11:43 |
| jelkner | *and* president@sjcompute.org | 11:43 |
| jelkner | they should both go to her | 11:43 |
| jelkner | and she needs to learn to use a good email client | 11:43 |
| jelkner | i use evolution | 11:43 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:43 |
| jelkner | thunderbird is another possibility | 11:44 |
| jkollie | Thanks jelkner | 11:44 |
| jelkner | https://itsfoss.com/best-email-clients-linux/ | 11:44 |
| jelkner | i find evolution works great with May First | 11:44 |
| jelkner | i played around with some of the others, but settled on evolution | 11:45 |
| jelkner | if you go with that | 11:45 |
| jelkner | i can help you with configuration | 11:45 |
| jelkner | we can share the quiz with everyone | 11:46 |
| jelkner | but there is no easy way for them to "take it" | 11:46 |
| jelkner | so we will just use it as a review today | 11:46 |
| jelkner | ok? | 11:46 |
| thomasboimah | OKay | 11:46 |
| jelkner | one thing we could do - lab activity: turn this PDF file into an html file | 11:47 |
| jelkner | that will be necessary to work with the quiz program gabriel_jetro is going to write ;-) | 11:47 |
| jelkner | ok, i gotta go | 11:47 |
| jelkner | students are now arriving | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i'll take a look at the inventory between now and class | 11:48 |
| jelkner | see you soon | 11:48 |
| dcammue | okay so let me share it now | 11:48 |
| gabriel_jetro | Ok | 11:48 |
| svaye | okay jelkner | 11:48 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:48 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for now | 11:48 |
| gabriel_jetro | Have a great day jelkner | 11:48 |
| jelkner | you too gabriel_jetro! | 11:48 |
| fkoikoi | jelkner | 11:48 |
| jelkner | gotta go fkoikoi | 11:48 |
| jelkner | see you in class | 11:48 |
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| fkoikoi | okay | 11:48 |
| dcammue | https://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/quizzes/php-quiz-1.pdf | 11:49 |
| mulbah | thomasboimah | 11:49 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah, | 11:50 |
| mulbah | If I pull the update I made on the server to Jetro Web website on the footer and broken links | 11:50 |
| mulbah | I can just run the same command to just leave it like that because of the job that is running | 11:51 |
| mulbah | I can just run the same command or just leave it like that because of the job that is running | 11:52 |
| thomasboimah | You will need to restart gunicorn | 11:53 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:59 |
| jkollie | ACTION leaving until the class time | 12:00 |
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| mulbah | I have problem with the project page this "https://jetrowebdevelopment.org/project/" the design of the various projects like "LibreOrganize" and Upsilon Chapter of Delta Kappa Gamma design are join together there is now way you can tell the difference between the to project | 12:03 |
| mulbah | You can take a look at it | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | okay let me see | 12:03 |
| mulbah | I think gabriel_jetro can work on it | 12:03 |
| thomasboimah | Ahh i see | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | that | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | it is a div error | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 12:04 |
| mulbah | gabriel_jetro | 12:05 |
| mulbah | can you work on that today | 12:05 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay I'll this afternoon | 12:05 |
| mulbah | alright | 12:06 |
| mulbah | you know the repo right | 12:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | When I start I'll let you know | 12:06 |
| mulbah | not the one on github | 12:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes on gitlab | 12:06 |
| gabriel_jetro | The one you push right? | 12:07 |
| mulbah | okay just hit me up I will help you through the process | 12:07 |
| gabriel_jetro | Okay | 12:07 |
| mulbah | I have a little problem with the contact page | 12:08 |
| mulbah | the map is not clear or looking good the way it's | 12:08 |
| mulbah | Don't you think gabriel_jetro and thomasboimah | 12:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | mulbah: ?? | 12:09 |
| thomasboimah | That is just a link | 12:09 |
| thomasboimah | image | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | when a use click on it | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | it will take them to google map | 12:10 |
| mulbah | I know but that can be properly arrange | 12:10 |
| thomasboimah | So let leave it like that for now | 12:10 |
| mulbah | just take a look at these various way we can arrange it "https://tailwindflex.com/@santos78/visit-us-section-with-google-map" | 12:12 |
| mulbah | for example like this "https://tailwindflex.com/@chithira-kumar-m/contact-us-form-with-map" | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | The link you send is give 404 error | 12:13 |
| thomasboimah | *giving | 12:13 |
| mulbah | or we could choose and better design | 12:13 |
| mulbah | are you sure | 12:13 |
| mulbah | https://tailwindflex.com/@chithira-kumar-m/contact-us-form-with-map | 12:13 |
| mulbah | take a look at that one | 12:14 |
| mulbah | gabriel_jetro are you viewing it | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | Okay let me take with the team about that | 12:15 |
| thomasboimah | *talk | 12:15 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes I did | 12:15 |
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| mulbah | Last but not the lest don't you think we can make the projects div design look like the various services "https://jetrowebdevelopment.org/service/" | 12:20 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah, | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | you was ask to work on the broken link of that page | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | *for | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | that link is broken is not working | 12:21 |
| thomasboimah | Have you not work on that yet? | 12:21 |
| mulbah | I finish with that | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | The link is still broke mulbah | 12:22 |
| mulbah | I just need to pull the changes to the server and rerun the command | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Page not found (404) | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Request Method: GET | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Request URL: http://jetrowebdevelopment.org/service/%22 | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | Using the URLconf defined in core.urls, Django tried these URL patterns, in this order: | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | [name='home'] | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | about/ [name='about'] | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | service/ [name='service'] | 12:22 |
| thomasboimah | project/ [name='project'] | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | contact/ [name='contact'] | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | ourmentors/ [name='ourmentors'] | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | [name='home'] | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | accounts/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | boxes/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | events/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | news/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | votations/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | wikis/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | i18n/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | ckeditor5/ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | ^media/(?P<path>.*)$ | 12:23 |
| thomasboimah | The current path, service/", d | 12:23 |
| dcammue | mulbah, i see you are trying to peak on the site contact page(location) | 12:23 |
| mulbah | that why I was asking you if I pull to the server can I run the same command | 12:23 |
| dcammue | changing the image is cool | 12:23 |
| dcammue | but not the link | 12:24 |
| mulbah | so it's the link that is bring the image | 12:24 |
| mulbah | I'm not changes the link | 12:24 |
| mulbah | or the image | 12:24 |
| mulbah | just trying to give it a proper look | 12:25 |
| mulbah | thomasboimah you understand now | 12:25 |
| dcammue | no, the image is just a normal image that is in a link pointing to the office address | 12:25 |
| mulbah | you can pull the updates I made to there repo thomas | 12:25 |
| thomasboimah | What you are trying to give a proper look mulbah ? | 12:25 |
| mulbah | it's the contact page map | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | THE MAP? | 12:26 |
| mulbah | yes | 12:26 |
| thomasboimah | Okay, but please fixed the broken link | 12:27 |
| thomasboimah | *s | 12:27 |
| dcammue | mulbah | 12:28 |
| mulbah | dcammue there is no image in the jetro_medai folder that is link to the map this is the link that is showing the image "https://maps.app.goo.gl/H4BqcCz4KGF8Z4Cj7" | 12:28 |
| dcammue | you are messing up the page a bit | 12:29 |
| mulbah | like how??? | 12:29 |
| dcammue | i said the image is "in a link" that is pointing to the office address | 12:30 |
| dcammue | mobile responsive nava bar is not working | 12:30 |
| dcammue | check it out | 12:31 |
| dcammue | *nave | 12:31 |
| mulbah | Now I understand what you are saying I though you said the image is in the jetro_media folder | 12:32 |
| mulbah | I'm not changing the link I know the link is pointing to the office address | 12:32 |
| mulbah | I'm just saying if we can change the design to make look proper say the way the image is on the contact page | 12:33 |
| mulbah | I'm subjecting we make it look like this "https://tailwindflex.com/@chithira-kumar-m/contact-us-form-with-map" | 12:34 |
| mulbah | or a news look | 12:34 |
| mulbah | you understand?? | 12:34 |
| mulbah | new not news | 12:35 |
| dcammue | change it, but the nave bar for the mobile responsive is not working | 12:35 |
| dcammue | viewing the page on your phone? | 12:36 |
| mulbah | not understanding what you mean | 12:36 |
| mulbah | okay I understand the menu is not clicking to show the side nav right | 12:38 |
| dcammue | view the page on your phone and navigate to the various pages and see | 12:38 |
| mulbah | I understand the side nav is not showing when you click the three line mune | 12:40 |
| dcammue | why you mess up with the page like that? | 12:41 |
| mulbah | gabriel_jetro and I will look at it or we can start fixing by 2 to 3 | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | mulbah, | 12:41 |
| dcammue | no, you fix it and leave gabriel_jetro out of this | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, and gabriel_jetro | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | just a little advice that i learn from zOnny | 12:42 |
| mulbah | bro moving to LO require it not just coping and pasting the code into the theme folder | 12:42 |
| dcammue | just check the js files, is not anything major | 12:42 |
| thomasboimah | When you update something make sure that it is working properly before moving it to production | 12:43 |
| mulbah | it require a lot of changes so don't say I mess up the page | 12:43 |
| mulbah | as if it's something bad I'm doing | 12:43 |
| dcammue | okay, so you and gabriel_jetro did that right/ | 12:43 |
| dcammue | ? | 12:43 |
| dcammue | no, did not say that | 12:44 |
| mulbah | I will fix it just leave it | 12:44 |
| dcammue | no cry lol | 12:44 |
| dcammue | mulbah, | 12:45 |
| dcammue | i really appreciate you effort | 12:45 |
| dcammue | thanks alot | 12:45 |
| jelkner | hello dcammue and svaye, are you two here? | 13:18 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: how about you? | 13:18 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:19 |
| jelkner | cool, are you in the office? | 13:19 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:19 |
| svaye | yes | 13:19 |
| svaye | yes | 13:19 |
| jelkner | awesome, i have both groups | 13:19 |
| jelkner | svaye, let me start with you | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i am hoping you and dcammue can guide the class today | 13:19 |
| dcammue | yes | 13:20 |
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| jelkner | https://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/calendar/ | 13:20 |
| jelkner | i just added a link to today's lesson | 13:20 |
| jelkner | it links to the quiz you made | 13:21 |
| jelkner | we have no way to "take" a quiz | 13:21 |
| dcammue | okay | 13:21 |
| jelkner | so instead, you can just discuss each of the questions in the chat | 13:21 |
| jelkner | and we can see who can answer them | 13:21 |
| jelkner | like i did with you last class | 13:21 |
| jelkner | i need to work with ben, josh, and kara | 13:21 |
| jelkner | so it will really help me if dcammue and svaye can run the class | 13:22 |
| dcammue | yes | 13:22 |
| dcammue | np | 13:22 |
| jelkner | i'll look in the chat after to see how you did ;-) | 13:22 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:22 |
| svaye | No problem jelkner | 13:22 |
| jelkner | thanks svaye | 13:22 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: it is becoming clear to me that ben is a young "ninja hacker" | 13:23 |
| jelkner | he has *a lot* of skills | 13:23 |
| jelkner | and he, josh and kara make a great team | 13:23 |
| jelkner | they are working on a library reservation system | 13:23 |
| thomasboimah | yes, Ben seem to be smart | 13:23 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:23 |
| jelkner | so that all the books we have in my classroom can be part of a circulation system | 13:24 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: https://codeberg.org/GraceHopperCenter/ghctechlib | 13:24 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'm going to pitch the idea to josh and ben today to be sys admins for our infrastructure next year | 13:25 |
| jelkner | and i need to talk to them about that | 13:25 |
| jelkner | this started because we needed a place to deploy their system | 13:26 |
| jelkner | and i am trying to avoid any more costs | 13:26 |
| jelkner | We need money to go to our worker owners, not our infrastructure! ;-) | 13:26 |
| jelkner | anyway, we don't need the system to be available on the web | 13:26 |
| jelkner | just in our classroom | 13:26 |
| jelkner | so i started setting up a vm using kvm to host it | 13:27 |
| jelkner | then i thought... | 13:27 |
| jelkner | jelkner is overextended | 13:27 |
| jelkner | if he keeps taking on these tasks | 13:27 |
| jelkner | he won't be able to keep up | 13:27 |
| jelkner | he needs to get a student to do it! | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 13:27 |
| jelkner | and if remember our dear old friend kjcole | 13:28 |
| thomasboimah | Ben and josh to me, will be a good developer then sys admins, but they're your student so you know them better. | 13:29 |
| jelkner | if you remember stefan and adrian | 13:29 |
| jelkner | they did *everything* | 13:29 |
| jelkner | we are small, thomasboimah | 13:30 |
| jelkner | at the beginning at least | 13:30 |
| jelkner | we need devs who can to a bit of everything | 13:30 |
| jelkner | applications need to be deployed | 13:31 |
| SeanE | Morning | 13:31 |
| thomasboimah | That will be great since mulbah will have a study group | 13:31 |
| thomasboimah | ben and josh | 13:31 |
| SeanE | or good afternoon | 13:31 |
| thomasboimah | Hello SeanE | 13:31 |
| jelkner | we need to get mulbah to the point where he can do these things | 13:31 |
| svaye | Hi SeanE | 13:31 |
| jelkner | anyway | 13:32 |
| SeanE | Hello thomas and svaye | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i'll let you know how it goes | 13:32 |
| dcammue | Hello SeanE | 13:32 |
| thomasboimah | Okay looking forward to that | 13:32 |
| dcammue | howa are you? | 13:32 |
| SeanE | Greatings dcammue I am doing fine | 13:33 |
| gabriel_jetro | Hello SeanE | 13:34 |
| jelkner | but i'm hoping josh and ben will be in my archers period next year | 13:34 |
| jelkner | so they will come each day | 13:35 |
| jelkner | and can help maintain our infrastructure | 13:35 |
| SeanE | Hello gabriel | 13:35 |
| jelkner | btw, thomasboimah | 13:36 |
| jelkner | and mulbah | 13:36 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:37 |
| jelkner | i'll be trying to figure out with josh and ben today how to run virt-manager on our kvm server | 13:38 |
| jelkner | i don't know if you know, but virt-manager is a gui tool for managing vms | 13:38 |
| jelkner | if you know me, i prefer cli tools | 13:38 |
| jelkner | "real devs" use the command line, as God intended ;-) | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 13:39 |
| SeanE | lmao | 13:39 |
| jelkner | but in some cases, and this is one of them, managing vms through the cli is to hard for poor old jelkner | 13:39 |
| jelkner | (who i guess is not a "real dev" :-( | 13:40 |
| jelkner | so he needs to use virt-manager | 13:40 |
| jelkner | that leads to a problem | 13:40 |
| jelkner | we need to install a windowing system | 13:41 |
| jelkner | ouch | 13:41 |
| mulbah | I been improving my sysadmin skill for the pass time jeff | 13:41 |
| jelkner | that is *a lot* of overhead | 13:41 |
| jelkner | just to run one program | 13:41 |
| SeanE | ACTION am gonna go to my next class bye yall | 13:42 |
| jelkner | the way i "compromise" is not to install a full gui distro | 13:42 |
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| jelkner | not one of these: | 13:42 |
| jelkner | https://commandlinux.com/statistics/linux-desktop-environments/ | 13:42 |
| jelkner | instead, i just "$ sudo apt install xinit" | 13:43 |
| jelkner | and choose one of these:https://wiki.debian.org/WindowManager | 13:44 |
| jelkner | i'm going to let ben pick which one | 13:44 |
| jelkner | i bet he'll have an opinion | 13:44 |
| jelkner | he usually does | 13:45 |
| jelkner | (that often comes with being smart ;-) | 13:45 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to look at the inventory document now so he can come back and discuss it with thomasboimah and dcammue | 13:46 |
| jelkner | dcammue and thomasboimah, you did pretty well | 13:51 |
| jelkner | i messed up | 13:52 |
| jelkner | but it turned out to be a good exercise | 13:52 |
| jelkner | we can call it practice | 13:52 |
| jelkner | as i keep saying, i'm trying to do too much | 13:52 |
| jelkner | so my error rate goes up | 13:52 |
| jelkner | i couldn't find the spread sheet i made for my last visit | 13:52 |
| jelkner | so i sent you the one i made for 2022 | 13:53 |
| jelkner | now i found it | 13:53 |
| jelkner | https://share.mayfirst.org/s/XLqwstKatka3Qw9 | 13:53 |
| jelkner | take a look | 13:53 |
| jelkner | you have read only on this one | 13:53 |
| jelkner | update yours with any missing info | 13:53 |
| jelkner | and make sure it is up-to-date and accurate | 13:54 |
| dcammue | okay | 13:55 |
| dcammue | okay Sir | 13:55 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going to the bathroom | 13:56 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 13:56 |
| jelkner | dcammue: | 13:56 |
| dcammue | i have some request for you | 13:57 |
| jelkner | go for it | 13:57 |
| dcammue | the dellrugged computer has battery issue | 13:57 |
| dcammue | the battery is not charging | 13:57 |
| jelkner | got you | 13:57 |
| jelkner | let me look into bringing a replacement | 13:57 |
| dcammue | so you can get one for us while coming | 13:57 |
| jelkner | i'll look | 13:58 |
| jelkner | this is great | 13:58 |
| jelkner | this is what we need dcammue | 13:58 |
| dcammue | i will sent you a file for that | 13:58 |
| jelkner | i have the info in need | 13:58 |
| jelkner | in my spreadsheet | 13:58 |
| dcammue | okay | 13:58 |
| jelkner | but here is what i need from you | 13:58 |
| dcammue | thanks | 13:58 |
| jelkner | get your inventory spreadsheet up to date | 13:58 |
| dcammue | what? my friend | 13:58 |
| dcammue | okay | 13:58 |
| dcammue | got you | 13:59 |
| jelkner | add the make and model of the generator too | 13:59 |
| dcammue | oh! yes | 13:59 |
| jelkner | we need to estimate the value of your inventory | 13:59 |
| dcammue | i left that out | 13:59 |
| dcammue | i will put that there | 14:00 |
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| jelkner | yes dcammue, and then we need to estimate the current value of each | 14:04 |
| jelkner | assests, equity, right? | 14:04 |
| dcammue | but what are the costs of those computers | 14:04 |
| jelkner | and we need to begin planning for decpreciation | 14:05 |
| jelkner | they are old | 14:05 |
| jelkner | here is what i would do | 14:05 |
| jelkner | can you access ebay from liberia? | 14:05 |
| dcammue | sent link | 14:05 |
| jelkner | if you can, type each model into ebay | 14:05 |
| jelkner | and see what a similar model would cost | 14:05 |
| jelkner | just use that as the current value | 14:05 |
| jelkner | same for the generator i guess | 14:06 |
| dcammue | https://www.ebay.com/ this? | 14:06 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:06 |
| jelkner | i bought them on ebay | 14:06 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION back | 14:06 |
| jelkner | can you have that for me by saturday? | 14:06 |
| dcammue | the generator is clear for me | 14:07 |
| jelkner | what does "clear for me" mean? | 14:07 |
| dcammue | i can tell the cost | 14:07 |
| jelkner | ok | 14:07 |
| jelkner | great | 14:07 |
| jelkner | let me get back to work | 14:07 |
| jelkner | see you soon... | 14:07 |
| jelkner | i always forget, do we meet here or #sjcompute? | 14:08 |
| jelkner | for class | 14:08 |
| dcammue | here | 14:08 |
| jelkner | perfect | 14:08 |
| jelkner | i don't have to go anywhere ;-) | 14:08 |
| dcammue | but i think it will be better to join sjcompute or novawebdev | 14:09 |
| jelkner | why? | 14:28 |
| jelkner | https://www.amazon.com/s?k=dell+latitude+5414+rugged+battery&crid=17D28W9JB1X9R&sprefix=Dell+Latitude+5414+Rugged%2Caps%2C156&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-expert-pd-ops-ranker_ci_hl-bn-left_1_25 | 14:28 |
| jelkner | check that out | 14:28 |
| jelkner | https://www.ebay.com/itm/117098195120?_skw=Dell+Latitude+5414+Rugged&itmmeta=01KMJPD6WK4CTJSN2MTYP7ZFZE&hash=item1b4398a8b0:g:8HQAAeSwdLdpvVtv&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAA0GfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xA8qsdVM47eq18mII1atnuD0JYqV3S4PNAfpFS%2BQdggNT1%2Fh7laXnhf8Z%2F4DrJhXMk7b6VB4DaAh6QQfIvUw8wqGjpZaey5ee9rKIJjy9QNArBx09FpKmC7i4i35njb%2Fu3MkVwDbOnD%2FXKXZZqPLMZkADUwp1DerUa5jiDY1k2KuoYdf2R3sP%2BqEuQNf57VZ%2BVxy8eTqt1FNZrB16NYQAk6E8ZxKtheHHbP22R6KaogBL9SSrwrAYYFLLYFqhM1 | 14:30 |
| jelkner | PEk%3D%7Ctkp%3ABlBMULzutNakZw | 14:30 |
| dcammue | yes that it | 14:34 |
| jelkner | great | 14:41 |
| jelkner | i can bring a battery | 14:42 |
| jelkner | get your inventory finished first | 14:42 |
| jelkner | and we can look over everything and do proper business planning | 14:42 |
| dcammue | okay | 14:43 |
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| svaye | jelkner, is kthomas there with you | 15:28 |
| jelkner | not yet | 15:29 |
| jelkner | around 5 minutes i think\ | 15:29 |
| jelkner | think | 15:29 |
| jkollie_ | Hi jelkner | 15:30 |
| jelkner | no one is here now | 15:30 |
| jelkner | classes are changing | 15:30 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 15:31 |
| svaye | we will wait for her | 15:32 |
| Karaaaaa | hello everyone! | 15:32 |
| fkoikoi | hi Karaaaaa | 15:33 |
| svaye | Hi Karaaaaa | 15:33 |
| dcammue | hello Karaaaaa | 15:33 |
| dcammue | how are you? | 15:33 |
| Karaaaaa | dcammue, i am doing well, and you? | 15:33 |
| dcammue | fine Karaaaaa | 15:34 |
| Karaaaaa | great! | 15:34 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 15:35 |
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| svaye | jelkner, did you help kthomas with the image issue? because it's not displaying on her website. | 15:38 |
| Karaaaaa | she is having some technical issues right now and jelkner is helping | 15:40 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:41 |
| svaye | Alright | 15:41 |
| Karaaaaa | ok, she is going to use my laptop now | 15:41 |
| dcammue | tell her she will late for class | 15:41 |
| dcammue | ;-) | 15:41 |
| Karaaaaa | hey everyone this is kthomas | 15:41 |
| dcammue | welcome kthomas | 15:42 |
| svaye | Hey kthomas, how are you | 15:42 |
| jkollie | Welcome kthomas | 15:42 |
| dcammue | we been waiting on you | 15:42 |
| Karaaaaa | im good how are you | 15:42 |
| dcammue | thanks fof coming | 15:42 |
| svaye | I am good | 15:42 |
| Karaaaaa | im sorry my computers been having issues | 15:42 |
| dcammue | okay np | 15:42 |
| dcammue | so firstly we will start with the quiz | 15:43 |
| dcammue | but we can not write the quiz | 15:43 |
| dcammue | so we will do it together | 15:43 |
| Karaaaaa | ok | 15:43 |
| dcammue | as a review | 15:44 |
| jkollie_ | okay | 15:44 |
| dcammue | https://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/quizzes/php-quiz-1.pdf | 15:44 |
| dcammue | please view it everyone | 15:44 |
| dcammue | and come back in few minutes to discuss it together | 15:44 |
| dcammue | please let me know if you are done | 15:45 |
| Karaaaaa | are we doing the quiz now or are we just looking at it | 15:46 |
| dcammue | look at it and answer it together | 15:46 |
| svaye | Karaaaaa, we can't do the quiz now, so we are going to use it as a review for what we discuss last class | 15:47 |
| dcammue | so it will be like competition here | 15:47 |
| dcammue | first to answer score higher marks | 15:47 |
| jkollie_ | am done dcammue | 15:47 |
| Karaaaaa | ok | 15:47 |
| dcammue | just answer by the letter | 15:48 |
| jkollie_ | are we going to type our answer here? | 15:48 |
| dcammue | freena, jkollie_ and Karaaaaa svaye are all get set | 15:48 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue | 15:49 |
| jkollie_ | you did'nt answer my question | 15:49 |
| fkoikoi | yes dcammue | 15:49 |
| dcammue | What is the root of the Unix file system? | 15:50 |
| Karaaaaa | d | 15:50 |
| svaye | slash / | 15:50 |
| jkollie_ | c) / | 15:51 |
| jkollie_ | 15:51 | |
| dcammue | freena | 15:51 |
| fkoikoi | slash / | 15:51 |
| dcammue | fkoikoi, | 15:51 |
| dcammue | What is the main difference between an absolute path and a relative path? | 15:51 |
| fkoikoi | absolute paths are not portable, while | 15:52 |
| fkoikoi | relative paths are portable | 15:52 |
| jkollie_ | c) Absolute paths are not portable, while relative paths are portable | 15:52 |
| svaye | c) | 15:52 |
| Karaaaaa | c | 15:52 |
| Karaaaaa | im switching back to my computer now | 15:53 |
| jkollie_ | okay kthomas | 15:53 |
| dcammue | let wait for kthomas | 15:54 |
| kthomas | ok im back | 15:54 |
| dcammue | set? | 15:54 |
| kthomas | yes | 15:54 |
| dcammue | let's go! | 15:54 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 15:54 |
| dcammue | Which of the following is an example of an absolute path? | 15:54 |
| fkoikoi | C | 15:54 |
| svaye | c | 15:55 |
| jkollie_ | c) /Users/12345/Downloads/image.png | 15:55 |
| kthomas | c | 15:55 |
| dcammue | Why couldn’t the server access kthomas’s image? a) The internet was down b) The file extensionwas wrong c) Her laptop is not accessible from the internet d) The image size was too large | 15:55 |
| kthomas | c | 15:55 |
| fkoikoi | b | 15:56 |
| svaye | b | 15:56 |
| jkollie_ | b) | 15:56 |
| dcammue | What is a codec? a) A type of file b) A storage device c) A set of rules for encoding and decodingmedia d) A programming language | 15:57 |
| svaye | c | 15:57 |
| fkoikoi | c | 15:57 |
| jkollie_ | b) A storage device | 15:57 |
| kthomas | b | 15:57 |
| dcammue | Why did kthomas’s image fail to display on her website? a) The image file was corrupted b) Theimage format was unsupported c) The image was stored on her local computer instead of the server d) The image name was too long | 15:58 |
| kthomas | c | 15:58 |
| fkoikoi | c | 15:58 |
| svaye | c | 15:58 |
| jkollie_ | c) The image was stored on her local computer instead of the server | 15:59 |
| dcammue | What is a file system best described as? a) A list b) A table c) A tree structure d) A loop | 15:59 |
| fkoikoi | c | 15:59 |
| kthomas | c | 15:59 |
| svaye | c | 15:59 |
| jkollie_ | c) | 15:59 |
| dcammue | What is a file? a) A program stored on a computer b) A named location on a non-volatile storagemedium c) A folder containing data d) A temporary memory location | 16:00 |
| fkoikoi | b | 16:00 |
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| svaye | b | 16:00 |
| kthomas | b | 16:00 |
| jkollie_ | b) | 16:01 |
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| dcammue | Why are relative paths preferred in web development? a) They are faster b) They are moresecure c) They work when files are moved between systems d) They use less memory | 16:02 |
| fkoikoi | c | 16:02 |
| kthomas | c | 16:02 |
| svaye | c | 16:02 |
| jkollie_ | hey work when files are moved between systems | 16:02 |
| jkollie_ | c) | 16:02 |
| dcammue | this is essay | 16:03 |
| dcammue | What must kthomas do to fix her image issue? | 16:03 |
| dcammue | three reasons | 16:03 |
| jkollie_ | kthomas need to put the image file inside her website project folder on the server, in other to fix her image issue. | 16:04 |
| kthomas | convert the file into a web standard format, then copy it into a media subdirectory in my repo, then change the link into a relative link in a new file | 16:04 |
| jkollie_ | for example: <img src="images/kthomasimage.jpg" alt="kthomas Image"> | 16:05 |
| fkoikoi | create a media file or sub-directory , place her image in the media file, edit the <img> tag and push her work to her codeberg account and them do a pull request to get it on the server | 16:05 |
| svaye | 1.create a media folder in her repo 2. Move the image to the media folder 3. convert the image to jpeg, or png | 16:05 |
| dcammue | okay thanks everyone | 16:07 |
| dcammue | do you guys like the practice | 16:07 |
| dcammue | ? | 16:07 |
| kthomas | yes | 16:07 |
| dcammue | cool | 16:07 |
| dcammue | so let view the mark | 16:07 |
| jkollie_ | +1 dcammue | 16:07 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 16:07 |
| dcammue | so any question? | 16:08 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION going to use the restroom | 16:08 |
| fkoikoi | -1 for me | 16:08 |
| jkollie_ | how do we view the mark? | 16:08 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue | 16:09 |
| dcammue | so everyone has their score right? | 16:10 |
| dcammue | if no question, let move to today class | 16:10 |
| kthomas | how do you view your score | 16:11 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION is back | 16:11 |
| dcammue | i sent you private message | 16:11 |
| dcammue | ask jeff to help you | 16:12 |
| kthomas | ok | 16:12 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue | 16:12 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i'll be able to help her in a few minutes | 16:12 |
| jelkner | btw. you all should look up this *amazing* tool | 16:12 |
| dcammue | thanks | 16:12 |
| jelkner | https://www.ffmpeg.org/ | 16:13 |
| svaye | kthomas, look on the left of your window where they have jetrowebdev under OFTC you will see dcammue click on it you will see the message | 16:13 |
| kthomas | yes i saw it | 16:13 |
| jkollie_ | dcammue | 16:14 |
| dcammue | okay, that the number of questions you firstly answered, but you answered all correctly kthomas | 16:14 |
| dcammue | jkollie_, | 16:14 |
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| jelkner | ffmpeg is *amazing*! | 16:15 |
| jelkner | you convert from 1 codec to another | 16:15 |
| jelkner | let's say you have video | 16:15 |
| jelkner | and the sound is too quiet | 16:15 |
| jelkner | you can increase the volume | 16:16 |
| jelkner | kthomas needs it now | 16:16 |
| jelkner | since she needs to convert her .heic file to either .jpg or .png | 16:16 |
| svaye | https://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/goals/session.html?num=03 | 16:18 |
| svaye | What we are going to do today is update our minimal page to the one in the lesson | 16:19 |
| svaye | jelkner, could you please explain more about vimrc and gitignore? | 16:21 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:21 |
| jelkner | but first we need to convert kthomas's image | 16:22 |
| svaye | +1 | 16:22 |
| jelkner | so, here's a challenge, can one of you tell me how to do that? | 16:22 |
| jelkner | you want to do a web search | 16:22 |
| dcammue | yes | 16:22 |
| jelkner | we want to use ffmpeg | 16:22 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:22 |
| fkoikoi | dcammue, can you resend the link to kthomas so she can convert her image?? | 16:22 |
| dcammue | i did on monday, but jelkner said he wants to use the ffmpeg | 16:23 |
| fkoikoi | oh okay | 16:24 |
| svaye | jelkner, does kthomas have a terminal on her laptop? | 16:24 |
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| kthomas | yes | 16:25 |
| jelkner | you should see kthomas's computer svaye | 16:25 |
| jelkner | it has a HUGE monitor | 16:25 |
| jelkner | it is running linux mint debian addition | 16:25 |
| jelkner | so yes, she has a terminal | 16:25 |
| dcammue | this ffmpeg is stressful | 16:25 |
| jelkner | really, dcammue? | 16:26 |
| dcammue | i prefer this https://convertio.co/heic-png/ | 16:26 |
| jelkner | NO! | 16:26 |
| dcammue | super straight | 16:26 |
| jelkner | we need skills | 16:26 |
| jkollie_ | kthomas you need to have ffmpeg installed and accessible from your command line terminal | 16:26 |
| svaye | I looked up how to convert heic to jpg or png, and the internet says the best way is to use command line tool heif-convert | 16:26 |
| dcammue | so the ffmpeg works offline? | 16:26 |
| jelkner | here, since dcammue is not up to the task, let me show y'all how it's done ;-) | 16:26 |
| dcammue | okay understand | 16:27 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 16:27 |
| jkollie_ | alright | 16:27 |
| jelkner | hold on | 16:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION does a quick web search | 16:28 |
| jelkner | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65435536/convert-a-heif-file-to-png-jpg-using-ffmpeg | 16:29 |
| svaye | jelkner, this is the command I gotis "brew install libheif" and when it's installed use this command "heif-convert input.heic output.jpg" or "heif-convert input.heic output.png" | 16:29 |
| jelkner | the top answer is what you want | 16:29 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 16:29 |
| jelkner | you rock! | 16:29 |
| jelkner | dcammue: that is easier than your web application! | 16:29 |
| jelkner | you just run the command on the command line | 16:29 |
| jelkner | and your done | 16:30 |
| jelkner | its faster | 16:30 |
| jelkner | uses less resources | 16:30 |
| jelkner | better | 16:30 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: you should show him | 16:30 |
| fkoikoi | wow, I think I'm going to read on it and learn how to used it to convert images | 16:31 |
| svaye | that "brew install libheif" is only for MaCos | 16:31 |
| dcammue | so you just run ffmpeg -i kthomas.heic kthomas.peg | 16:32 |
| svaye | For linux use sudo apt-get install libheif-examples | 16:33 |
| svaye | jelkner, does it work? I don't have a heic image in my computer to try it | 16:35 |
| kthomas | svaye, jelkner is helping me | 16:36 |
| kthomas | give us a minute | 16:36 |
| svaye | Alright | 16:37 |
| jkollie_ | you can also try: sudo apt update | 16:37 |
| jkollie_ | sudo apt install ffmpeg -y | 16:37 |
| jkollie_ | to installed on linux | 16:38 |
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| dcammue | jelkner, | 16:42 |
| dcammue | are you guys done | 16:42 |
| kthomas | almost | 16:43 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:44 |
| jelkner | done | 16:46 |
| jelkner | here's what we did | 16:46 |
| jelkner | 1. I have kthomas a usb stick | 16:47 |
| dcammue | i just did a try a few minutes ago | 16:47 |
| jelkner | and said, here, copy the image to this | 16:47 |
| dcammue | i it works well | 16:47 |
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| jelkner | and then we copied the image to the linux workstation she works on in class | 16:47 |
| jelkner | and then we ran ffmpeg | 16:47 |
| jelkner | it did something to the image | 16:47 |
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| jelkner | so we need to look into that | 16:48 |
| jelkner | then we fixed her homepage | 16:48 |
| jelkner | and did a git add, git commit, git push | 16:48 |
| jelkner | *THEN* | 16:48 |
| jelkner | she sshed in webschool, and did what? | 16:48 |
| jelkner | who can tell us? | 16:48 |
| dcammue | git pull | 16:49 |
| jelkner | nice! | 16:49 |
| jelkner | and fast | 16:49 |
| jelkner | awesome dcammue | 16:49 |
| jelkner | ok, now we only have 5 minutes | 16:49 |
| jelkner | what's next? | 16:49 |
| dcammue | so now her image shows | 16:49 |
| jelkner | yes it does | 16:49 |
| dcammue | sweet | 16:49 |
| jelkner | but it lost color and definition | 16:49 |
| dcammue | hmm | 16:49 |
| fkoikoi | yh, her image is displaying now | 16:50 |
| jelkner | so i think we need more arguments to ffmpeg to tell it how to convert | 16:50 |
| fkoikoi | but in a dark mode | 16:50 |
| jelkner | exactly | 16:50 |
| jelkner | it's all about codecs | 16:50 |
| jelkner | codecs turn bits into colored lights | 16:50 |
| jelkner | and if you get the codec wrong | 16:50 |
| jelkner | the conversation produces not what you want | 16:51 |
| jelkner | i want you to have deep learning | 16:51 |
| jelkner | that's why i don't want you just using a magical web app | 16:51 |
| jelkner | you'll never understand deeply what is happening | 16:51 |
| jelkner | and when something goes wrong | 16:51 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 16:51 |
| jelkner | you won't be able to trouble shoot | 16:51 |
| svaye | jelkner, the image lost it's color | 16:51 |
| jelkner | since your knowledge will be shallow, not deep | 16:52 |
| jkollie_ | right jelkner | 16:52 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 16:52 |
| jelkner | it's all just bits | 16:52 |
| jelkner | so we took a color encoding | 16:52 |
| jelkner | and converted it into a monochrome one | 16:52 |
| jelkner | i'll look that up, and figure it out | 16:52 |
| dcammue | jelkner, can you pleas share with me the image so i can try with the ffmpeg i installed? | 16:53 |
| jelkner | here is another reason why cli's are so useful to "pros" | 16:53 |
| jelkner | anything we can do on a cli | 16:53 |
| jelkner | we can automate | 16:53 |
| jelkner | if i have a million images to convert | 16:53 |
| jelkner | i just write a script | 16:54 |
| jelkner | and ffmpeg can convert *all* of them | 16:54 |
| jelkner | if i use the web app | 16:54 |
| jelkner | i convert one at a time | 16:54 |
| kthomas | bye everyone | 16:54 |
| jelkner | a million will take way too long | 16:54 |
| jelkner | see you all on friday | 16:54 |
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| jelkner | i can work with you then | 16:55 |
| jelkner | since ben, kara and josh are all set | 16:55 |
| dcammue | so not meeting me tomorrow? | 16:55 |
| dcammue | jelkner, | 16:55 |
| fkoikoi | okay jelkner | 16:56 |
| jelkner | see you all friday morning | 16:56 |
| jelkner | this is great | 16:56 |
| dcammue | silent means concern, okay jelkner | 16:56 |
| svaye | alright jelkner | 16:56 |
| jkollie_ | take care jelkner! | 16:57 |
| jkollie_ | and everyone | 16:57 |
| jelkner | we are making great progress | 16:58 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful rest of the day jelkner | 16:58 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i'll check in with you tomorrow | 16:58 |
| jelkner | on the inventory | 16:58 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:58 |
| jelkner | sweet | 16:58 |
| jelkner | thanks all | 16:58 |
| jelkner | bye for now | 16:58 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 16:58 |
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| fkoikoi | ACTION sign off | 16:59 |
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