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| gabriel | Greetings, dcammue and freena | 10:51 |
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| gabriel | Happy holiday, it's sad that I lost my uncle yesterday | 10:52 |
| freena | Good morning gabriel sorry for your lost | 10:54 |
| freena | Good morning jelkner | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i talked to Kei about our upcoming NOVA Web and RABT meetings, and Decidim progress. Today i completed the wire transfer and will attend the RABT meeting. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| gabriel | Yesterday I was continuing with my work on the student testing system django base site when i receive a tragic news that my uncle passed away. | 11:00 |
| gabriel | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | On Wednesday, I wrote and updated the tests for the changes made on the BT and pushed them. This morning, I am currently at bank with dcammue to see if we could find a way to help Jeff with his blocker concerning the transfer. We talk with our account manager, and he said we should get an IBAN for our account, Hopefully we will get that done today and dcammue will email jelkner Our account IBAN. After we leave the bank I | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | will also be preparing myself for my work session with zOnny tomorrow. No blocker. | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| dcammue | On Wednesday, zOnny and I worked around business tracker and we sent the invoice for the work Anthony p Di for the AR Traffic Consultant. I emailed jelkner and Anthony p concerning the invoice. I also worked with zOnny on yesterday we created SJC as partner for jetro on the tracker. Today, Thomasboimah and I went to the bank to solve the IBAN invalid number issue, but we didn't complete the process. We was promised that we will get updated before th | 11:00 |
| dcammue | day ends. I will also be going to see my grandmother because she needs me. No blocker. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning Jetro websters! | 11:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| gabriel | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| dcammue | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| jelkner | We have several things to chat about, but let's start with the most pressing, the IBAN issue. | 11:02 |
| jelkner | I don't understand why ACFCU rejected my transfer this time, when they made many previous ones using the exact same information. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | When i called them, the person i spoke with suggested there had been a change in the IBAN rules. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i don't think so | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i think they don't fully know what they are doing | 11:03 |
| jelkner | and the error is on their part | 11:03 |
| jelkner | that seems to be the case, since i signed a DocuSign this morning | 11:04 |
| jelkner | so i think the transfer will now be on its way | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i'm glad you looked into it though, in case we have further issues in the future. | 11:04 |
| svaye | Alright jelkner | 11:05 |
| jelkner | This is indeed a "teachable moment" for us. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i caused me to do a little wikipedia diving | 11:05 |
| jelkner | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number | 11:05 |
| jelkner | since we are doing international economic activity | 11:06 |
| jelkner | we will need to follow and try to understand the "rules of the game" | 11:07 |
| jelkner | regarding how international payments are made | 11:07 |
| jelkner | give the crazy, fast moving times we are living in, things are likely to change over the coming period | 11:07 |
| jelkner | but we can follow the changes much easier once we understand the present system better | 11:08 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 11:08 |
| gabriel | +1 | 11:08 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'll call the credit union today when it opens to find out what happened, and you all should continue to follow up with your bank about the IBAN number. | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i think that's all we can do for now | 11:09 |
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| jelkner | thomasboimah: are you ready for the next agenda item? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | since it mostly involves you | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i had a great morning with mr. zawolo | 11:10 |
| dcammue_ | jelkner, we ask the UBA bank manager to get us a new IBAN number, so should we tell him to cancel the process? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | he said he would join us this morning | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but i don't know if he knows how to reach us on irc | 11:10 |
| jelkner | NO! | 11:10 |
| jelkner | dcammue_: it won't hurt to have an IBAN number | 11:10 |
| jelkner | does it cost anything? | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | -1 | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i think the IBAN number is not required for liberia | 11:11 |
| jelkner | but it won't hurt to have it | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so please let that process go forward | 11:11 |
| dcammue_ | okay, so that's mean the number you shared with us is not an IBAN number right? | 11:11 |
| jelkner | correct | 11:12 |
| dcammue_ | sweet | 11:12 |
| jelkner | well, i'm no expert | 11:12 |
| jelkner | but it is what i have been putting in the "IBAN or Special Instructions" field | 11:12 |
| jelkner | https://www.iban.com/iban-checker | 11:13 |
| jelkner | when you enter it there | 11:13 |
| jelkner | it says not valid | 11:13 |
| jelkner | try it | 11:13 |
| jelkner | ok, thomasboimah | 11:13 |
| jelkner | back to our crucial conversation | 11:13 |
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| jelkner | i think mr. zawolo is getting more excited about our effort | 11:13 |
| jelkner | since i had the chance to talk to him at length on wednesday | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i told him about our challenge with a graphics designer | 11:14 |
| jelkner | he put out the word that we were looking for a designer | 11:14 |
| jelkner | and he got several responses | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i told him that the process should be that thomasboimah and zOnny decide which designer we work with | 11:15 |
| jelkner | so ASAP, thomasboimah, you need to talk with mr. zawolo | 11:15 |
| jelkner | to figure out what kind of process you want to use | 11:15 |
| thomasboimah | Great to know that the supe is getting involve. | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i think you should work with him to identify the top few candidates | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and then you should arrange to meet with them in person | 11:16 |
| jelkner | have them come to the office to meet you | 11:16 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:16 |
| jelkner | then if you think you have found someone you can work with | 11:16 |
| jelkner | invite them to meet with the entire co-op | 11:16 |
| jelkner | this is a great opportunity for Jetro to learn and grow | 11:17 |
| jelkner | you will really need to look at your operating agreement now | 11:17 |
| jelkner | for now, you will just contract with the designer | 11:17 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner: quick question? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | but if they work out, you should have a process to invite them to become co-op member. | 11:17 |
| jelkner | yes, thomasboimah? | 11:17 |
| freena | Yesterday, I conThetinue with my html and css studies. | 11:18 |
| jelkner | great freena | 11:18 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, do you have a quick question? | 11:18 |
| thomasboimah | You we are free software guys. Will the person be required to use tools the is not free software? | 11:18 |
| thomasboimah | *know | 11:18 |
| freena | **continue** | 11:19 |
| thomasboimah | *that | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ahh, great question!!!!!!!!! | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so, that will be a huge part of the process | 11:19 |
| jelkner | we need to find someone willing to learn | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so Yara, for example, already has been learning GIMP and Krita on her own | 11:19 |
| jelkner | the chances are you will find people in Liberia who only know the evil, non-people's software | 11:20 |
| jelkner | Adobe | 11:20 |
| jelkner | photoshop and illustrator | 11:20 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so in some ways, some with a little less experience, but a lot of talent and big dreams, may be better for us | 11:21 |
| jelkner | someone who can learn with us and grow with us | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we need: | 11:21 |
| jelkner | GIMP/Krita, Inkscape, Pen Pot | 11:21 |
| jelkner | the last one is really cool | 11:21 |
| jelkner | Nana is getting very good with it | 11:22 |
| jelkner | https://penpot.app/ | 11:22 |
| freena | Most graphics designer here in Liberia used either Photoshop or Corel draw jelkner | 11:22 |
| jelkner | right, freena | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so we won't use either of those | 11:22 |
| jelkner | photoshop is not really even an option for us now anyway | 11:23 |
| jelkner | enshitification | 11:23 |
| jelkner | Adobe is switching to an online subscription model | 11:23 |
| jelkner | you can't even purchase the software if you want to | 11:23 |
| jelkner | you have to rent it from them | 11:23 |
| jelkner | and pay monthly | 11:24 |
| jelkner | in the developing world, people will use old versions that are not licensed | 11:24 |
| freena | Yh, that's right | 11:24 |
| jelkner | we can't do that in virginia | 11:24 |
| jelkner | and since the plan is to have jetro work for U.S. customers | 11:24 |
| jelkner | we need to follow the law | 11:25 |
| jelkner | but as users of People's software, we don't have a problem ;-) | 11:25 |
| freena | So what's exactly is the plan? | 11:25 |
| thomasboimah | One more question jelkner, Did you talk with Mr. Zawolo concern the person compensation? nvm I will chat with him. | 11:25 |
| jelkner | we need to hire a young person with a passion for design who is willing to learn | 11:25 |
| jelkner | no, thomasboimah | 11:26 |
| jelkner | that will be Jetro and NOVA's decision | 11:26 |
| jelkner | but you can talk with him about what he thinks their expectation will be | 11:26 |
| jelkner | this is another good opportunity for us to learn | 11:26 |
| jelkner | what is the market rate for a designer in liberia? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | we need to know | 11:27 |
| jelkner | so *PLEASE*, my dear friends, reach out to the Supe!! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | he called me yesterday | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | Will do | 11:27 |
| jelkner | and said he would join us today | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | Right after this meeting | 11:28 |
| jelkner | but i think he thought we would be on jitsi | 11:28 |
| jelkner | not irc | 11:28 |
| jelkner | perfect thomasboimah | 11:28 |
| jelkner | ok, next topic | 11:28 |
| jelkner | dcammue: we need to close out the books for 2025 and have only 2026 books | 11:28 |
| jelkner | i already filed the 990-N forms for both SECOSOL and SJC | 11:29 |
| dcammue | yes | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so we are done with their taxes for last year | 11:29 |
| jelkner | btw., dcammue., i got cheated on the SJC ones | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i can't deal with the stress | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so i got an email with an offer to file my taxes for me | 11:29 |
| jelkner | they charged $199 | 11:30 |
| dcammue | so we will need the transactions to start | 11:30 |
| dcammue | wow, huge | 11:30 |
| jelkner | last week, i found the same service charging $19.95!! | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i was stressed | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and in a rush | 11:30 |
| jelkner | so i wasted money | 11:30 |
| jelkner | bad move | 11:30 |
| jelkner | but we paid so much in penalties for not filing things on time | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that i just wanted the stress to go away | 11:31 |
| jelkner | next year i'll know better | 11:31 |
| jelkner | in fact, if we get you all to the level where you can do the bookkeeping and filing youself | 11:31 |
| jelkner | i won't have to stress about it ;-) | 11:31 |
| dcammue | sure | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ok, last thing | 11:32 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:32 |
| jelkner | tomorrow NOVA Web is having it's business meeting | 11:32 |
| jelkner | zOnny and jelkner are going to ask to become worker / owners | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we have a tradition now of updating our operating agreement on May 1st | 11:33 |
| jelkner | You can see our current operating agreement on my website: | 11:33 |
| jelkner | https://elkner.net/static/NOVAWebLimitedLiabilityCompanyOperatingAgreement.pdf | 11:33 |
| jelkner | i'd like to draw your attention to section 10. | 11:34 |
| jelkner | What is that section? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | let's make this a little class exercise | 11:34 |
| jelkner | someone answer please... | 11:35 |
| freena | +1 | 11:35 |
| jelkner | what do you mean +1, freena? | 11:35 |
| jelkner | the question is, what is section 10 about? | 11:36 |
| freena | Oh, didn't understand | 11:36 |
| gabriel | ACTION going to read the session | 11:36 |
| freena | Section 10 of what?? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:37 |
| jelkner | read the log, freena | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | Adding member | 11:37 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:37 |
| gabriel | +1 | 11:37 |
| jelkner | great thomasboimah, now i have a few more questions for you | 11:37 |
| jelkner | sahnun says he wants to become a member | 11:37 |
| jelkner | what does he need to do? | 11:37 |
| dcammue | it is about adding members | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | He should be presented by one of the member | 11:38 |
| jelkner | yes, and | 11:38 |
| freena | Oh I get it how | 11:39 |
| freena | Oh, I get it now | 11:39 |
| jelkner | great freena, let's spend some time on this | 11:39 |
| jelkner | jetro is maturing, and y'all need to start thinking about things like this | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | With the majoraty approved lasting for six month | 11:39 |
| dcammue | he need to pass those guys through one of jetro member | 11:40 |
| jelkner | not quite, thomasboimah, but you read the correct part | 11:40 |
| jelkner | sahnun needs a vote of 2/3 of the members to approve him becoming a *candidate member* | 11:40 |
| jelkner | the candidacy lasts for 6 months | 11:40 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 11:41 |
| thomasboimah | BTW jelkner | 11:41 |
| jelkner | at the end of the 6 months, the members vote again on whether or not to admit the candidate to become a member | 11:41 |
| jelkner | and during that time, the candidate must either contribute $5000 or 100 hours of labor to the co-op | 11:42 |
| jelkner | now, one more question | 11:42 |
| thomasboimah | I ask svaye and dcammue so that we can work on our own of operating agreement | 11:42 |
| jelkner | you need to, thomasboimah1 | 11:42 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah! | 11:42 |
| jelkner | you definitely need to | 11:42 |
| jelkner | it is required by law here | 11:42 |
| jelkner | i don't know what liberian law says | 11:42 |
| jelkner | but you need one anyway | 11:43 |
| thomasboimah | Yes ,we are using Now a own as template | 11:43 |
| thomasboimah | *Nova | 11:43 |
| jelkner | it guides how you make decisions | 11:43 |
| jelkner | ok, last question | 11:43 |
| jelkner | i claim zOnny and jelkner don't need to become candidate members, why can i say this? | 11:43 |
| svaye | jelkner: we are using novaweb operating agreement template to create our own | 11:43 |
| jelkner | which part of section 10 covers that? | 11:44 |
| thomasboimah | 10 c | 11:45 |
| jelkner | nope | 11:45 |
| dcammue | 10 d | 11:46 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:46 |
| jelkner | good dcammue | 11:46 |
| thomasboimah | Sure | 11:46 |
| jelkner | zOnny and jelkner are both former members | 11:46 |
| freena | Section 10 d talks about a member who left the coop and is requesting to come back | 11:46 |
| thomasboimah | You rock! dcammue | 11:46 |
| jelkner | zOnny ran the co-op in reboot 2 | 11:46 |
| jelkner | jelkner co-founded the co-op with kjcole | 11:46 |
| jelkner | back in 2012 | 11:46 |
| jelkner | so, think about the process | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and think about why we wrote the operating agreement like we did | 11:47 |
| jelkner | some things only require a simple majority to pass | 11:47 |
| jelkner | but adding new members is a *BIG DEAL* | 11:47 |
| jelkner | it changes the culture of the organization | 11:47 |
| thomasboimah | That was wise by the person who add that part their | 11:48 |
| jelkner | so we require a "super majority" of 2/3 for that | 11:48 |
| jelkner | but right now it is very interesting | 11:48 |
| jelkner | there are only 2 members | 11:48 |
| jelkner | Kei and Tony | 11:48 |
| jelkner | so 2/3 requires both of them | 11:48 |
| jelkner | if they approve zOnny and jelkner request | 11:48 |
| jelkner | there will be 4 members | 11:48 |
| jelkner | so 3 of them would be needed to make 2/3 after that | 11:49 |
| jelkner | we strive for consensus | 11:49 |
| jelkner | but we didn't want one person to be able to block something that everyone else was strongly in favor of | 11:49 |
| jelkner | so we wrote the rules that way | 11:50 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to get to work | 11:50 |
| jelkner | anything else for me before i go? | 11:50 |
| thomasboimah | Alright have nice day | 11:50 |
| jelkner | you need to really focus now Jetro! | 11:50 |
| freena | +1 | 11:50 |
| jelkner | we need to start bringing in customers now | 11:50 |
| jelkner | since the $5K was the last "grant" you will receive from SJC, certainly for awhile | 11:51 |
| jelkner | so if you want to continue, it is fee for service now | 11:51 |
| jelkner | i think you are ready | 11:51 |
| gabriel | +1 | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and i will continue to be a Jetro customer | 11:51 |
| dcammue | jelkner, jelkner, i want to get the clear understanding on the those guys that Mr.Zawolo ask to help us, do they have the skill already? | 11:51 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i don't know | 11:52 |
| jelkner | it will be up to thomasboimah and zOnny to determine that | 11:52 |
| jelkner | they think they have the skill | 11:52 |
| dcammue | if not, why we can't just select one of jetro member to focus on that | 11:52 |
| jelkner | dcammue: you haven't been listening to me on this | 11:52 |
| dcammue | hope so | 11:52 |
| jelkner | you don't just take anyone and say "become an artist" | 11:52 |
| dcammue | yes, but let give them a try | 11:53 |
| jelkner | it doesn't work like that | 11:53 |
| dcammue | freena was into this before | 11:53 |
| dcammue | so i think she can return to it | 11:53 |
| jelkner | so let's revisit this discussion | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i asked earlier about it | 11:53 |
| jelkner | i said, since i'm old and have been observing this for many years | 11:54 |
| jelkner | you know who the designers are | 11:54 |
| jelkner | they are the kids that can't stop doodling on their notebooks | 11:54 |
| jelkner | or any papers they can get their hands on | 11:54 |
| jelkner | the "see" the world that way | 11:54 |
| jelkner | they can learn GIMP, or Penpot | 11:55 |
| jelkner | but the part of their brain, the creative part | 11:55 |
| jelkner | isn't about just learning a skill | 11:55 |
| jelkner | it is about seeing the world | 11:55 |
| dcammue | but i can draw on book and even look at a photo and draw it on a sheet, but doing it digitally is different | 11:55 |
| jelkner | anyway, dcammue | 11:56 |
| jelkner | even zOnny, who has a good eye | 11:56 |
| jelkner | can't do design like we need | 11:56 |
| jelkner | this came up with the NOVA Web site | 11:56 |
| jelkner | he tried to redesign it | 11:56 |
| svaye | dcammue: I think what jelkner is talking about is creativity, you should draw you don't see but imagine | 11:56 |
| jelkner | i didn't like it | 11:56 |
| jelkner | Nana had a *feeling* about design | 11:57 |
| svaye | What * | 11:57 |
| dcammue | let okay, | 11:57 |
| freena | Well understood jelkner | 11:57 |
| dcammue | let investigate those guys and see | 11:57 |
| jelkner | she also can listen to customers, understand them, and match her skills with an aesthetic she thinks they will like | 11:58 |
| jelkner | btw., dcammue | 11:58 |
| jelkner | this is a GREAT conversation | 11:58 |
| jelkner | the beautiful thing about a democratic organization is that people are not limited to one thing or other, or doing what they are told | 11:59 |
| jelkner | if one of you says, "I think I would like to do that!" | 11:59 |
| jelkner | you can try | 11:59 |
| jelkner | but ultimately, you will need to prove to the rest of your comrades, and TO YOUR CUSTOMERS, that you can | 11:59 |
| jelkner | if you can't do that, we fail | 12:00 |
| jelkner | customer become angry | 12:00 |
| jelkner | we get stressed | 12:00 |
| jelkner | we neither have a joyful experience or earn the revenue we need to eat | 12:00 |
| jelkner | that's now what we want, right? | 12:00 |
| dcammue | okay, we will try to learn in the back while investigating those guys | 12:00 |
| jelkner | s/now/not | 12:01 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:01 |
| jelkner | ok, thomasboimah please contact mr. zawolo | 12:01 |
| thomasboimah | Will do | 12:01 |
| jelkner | and freena, if you want to learn GIMP, Krita, Inkscape and Penpot, go for it! | 12:01 |
| jelkner | but it will take years | 12:02 |
| jelkner | we can't wait for that | 12:02 |
| freena | Okay jelkner | 12:02 |
| jelkner | ok, my dear friends | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i'll be on the #novawebdev channel this time tomorrow | 12:03 |
| dcammue | okay, see you tomorrow jelkner. | 12:03 |
| jelkner | bye for now... | 12:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:03 |
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| svaye | freena: dcammue thomasboimah and gabriel will you guys come on Sunday? | 12:04 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 12:05 |
| gabriel | yes | 12:06 |
| gabriel | we'll | 12:06 |
| svaye | At what time, so I will know how to plan | 12:06 |
| gabriel | Guys i lost my uncle yesterday | 12:06 |
| svaye | I am so sorry gabriel, my condolences to you and the family | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | My condolences to you and the family gabriel | 12:07 |
| freena | +1 | 12:07 |
| gabriel | I cut my hair svaye, you'll see it on sunday, lol | 12:07 |
| freena | So what time svaye ?? | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | You will be here today right? | 12:08 |
| thomasboimah | We can discuss the time | 12:08 |
| svaye | freena: I am asking you guys when you will be free on Sunday | 12:09 |
| gabriel | Today is holiday, I'll be going to the church from there i'll go sinkor to my family place | 12:09 |
| gabriel | I'll come by 2pm, svaye | 12:09 |
| svaye | thomasboimah: I won't be at the office today | 12:09 |
| freena | svaye: | 12:10 |
| gabriel | freena are you guys at the office? | 12:10 |
| svaye | Yeah freena | 12:10 |
| freena | Yes gabriel, anything? | 12:10 |
| freena | What time svaye? | 12:11 |
| gabriel | Not really... | 12:11 |
| freena | You coming? | 12:11 |
| gabriel | so it was all of you guys who betrayed jesus today ehn, lol | 12:11 |
| dcammue | svaye, you need to tell us the time you will be ready for us | 12:11 |
| gabriel | No freena, like i said it's a holiday for we christian to celebrate our lord and savior | 12:12 |
| svaye | Guys will 3pm be good? | 12:13 |
| freena | Sure | 12:13 |
| gabriel | okay, +1 | 12:13 |
| svaye | Great | 12:14 |
| dcammue | -1 | 12:14 |
| dcammue | 10pm | 12:14 |
| dcammue | haha | 12:14 |
| svaye | Haha | 12:14 |
| dcammue | only my one oo | 12:14 |
| svaye | You almost got me hahaha | 12:15 |
| dcammue | special member(manager) | 12:15 |
| dcammue | business talks | 12:15 |
| dcammue | haha | 12:15 |
| gabriel | lol, dcammue | 12:15 |
| dcammue | see you meh | 12:15 |
| gabriel | bro you grinding | 12:16 |
| dcammue | la pa pay jeh wan gia us hard time | 12:16 |
| svaye | Have a wonderful holy weekend guys | 12:17 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 12:17 |
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| gabriel | lol | 12:17 |
| gabriel | guys have a wonderful day, I'll pray for jetro today | 12:18 |
| gabriel | ACTION leaving for service | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | Fine with me | 12:22 |
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