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| thomasboimah | Good morning everyone | 10:58 |
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| jkollie | jk | 10:58 |
| dcammue | On Yesterday(during the weekend), I had a great conversations with jelkner about the inventory2026 list for Jetro. i update the "Issued to" column with the respective holders of each computer. i also prepared the web class lesson session15 and push it for merge. today, i will be teaching the web class and also start to work with gabriel on the machines updating process. no blocker | 11:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Yesterday I did a recap on my lessons and make some changes to my study schedule. I also got to attend the may first annual meeting on Thursday. | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Today I'll continue with my lessons. No blocker | 11:00 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | I attended our weekend work session, fixed the ongoing server instability issues that were affecting the secosol.us and novawebdevelopment.coop websites, zOnny also updated me about the meeting held in Harpers Ferry concerning Business Tracker about shifting focus from task management to invoicing and payment processing, and based on this new directive on BT, today I will begin setting up a Stripe account for Jetro and start researching the | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | Stripe API documentation to plan the integration into Business Tracker. I will also be voting on behave of Jetro for the mayfirst board today, I was reading the Nominees bio and vision this morning and I really like Micky Metts (https://vote.mayfirst.org/node/94) vision. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| gabriel | Yesterday, I attended the developer meeting with zonny and thomasboimah, there's no blocker now. | 11:00 |
| gabriel | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| dcammue | Good morning everyone | 11:01 |
| jelkner | On Saturday i attended the fantastic NOVA Web annual meeting in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia. Rachel and her delightful husband Frank were amazing hosts, feeding us a truly memorable meal before we NOVA Websters sat down to get work done. We agree on three paths for looking for business: 1. Websites for small scale customers (a la J.C. Enterprises) in close collaboration with Jetro Web, 2. Custom web applications for businesses (a la AR Traffic), | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and 3. Decidim support for municipal governments (longer term). | 11:02 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | yesterday I work on my html skill and I plan to continue my study with OPENDPG | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| dcammue | please be inform that the whole city will be lack down tomorrow!!! Which will be a special day for the nobody dcammue birthday :-) | 11:03 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | Happy pre-Birthday bro!!! | 11:04 |
| dcammue | yeah jelkner | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i don't have your b'day in my calendar, dcammue | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i need to fix that now! | 11:04 |
| jkollie | Happy early B-day dcammue | 11:04 |
| dcammue | sure | 11:05 |
| jelkner | dcammue: what year where you born? | 11:05 |
| dcammue | thanks jelkner | 11:05 |
| dcammue | 1999 may 05 | 11:05 |
| jelkner | You're in my calendar now | 11:06 |
| jelkner | expect an email tomorrow morning ;-) | 11:06 |
| jelkner | ok i have so much work to do | 11:06 |
| svaye | The past week I have been occupied with school presentations, this week I am writing my lab finals, today I am writing one of my lab finals. Blocking on time. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | dcammue: how are we on the inventory list? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | it's time for me to start packing | 11:07 |
| jelkner | and i need that updated please | 11:07 |
| dcammue | we starting it today | 11:07 |
| svaye | dcammue: happy pre birthday | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i don't want to bring y'all more equipment if you can't manage what you have now ;-) | 11:07 |
| dcammue | gabriel, is here with me | 11:07 |
| dcammue | i am on that | 11:07 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: do you have a minute? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | +1 | 11:08 |
| jelkner | while i am there this summer, i will be looking to recruit either gabriel or mulbah to work with me on specific projects | 11:08 |
| jelkner | if they can convince me they can really contribute | 11:08 |
| gabriel | jelkner do the secosole team page need an update? | 11:08 |
| jelkner | gabriel, let zOnny handle that | 11:09 |
| jelkner | the work i'll be looking for will be directly related to the work i do in school | 11:09 |
| gabriel | He told me to and said i should ask you | 11:09 |
| dcammue | thanks svaye jkollie thomasboimah | 11:09 |
| gabriel | jelkner | 11:10 |
| jelkner | cjones and i are working on OER online books for each of our 4 years of our program | 11:10 |
| jelkner | gabriel, ah | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i am customer for SJC and NOVA Web | 11:10 |
| jelkner | not SECOSOL | 11:10 |
| jelkner | since i am not closely involved with leadership there | 11:10 |
| jelkner | klarios is | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we should ask her | 11:10 |
| jelkner | put that on our ToDo list | 11:11 |
| gabriel | okay understood | 11:11 |
| jelkner | Ask klarios about SECOSOL website | 11:11 |
| jelkner | that will be a good task for her too | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ah, mulbah, there you are | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i am looking forward to talking to you this Summer my friend | 11:11 |
| mulbah | sorry I'm late guys | 11:11 |
| jelkner | i want to see if you want to work with me on one of the courses we teach our students here | 11:12 |
| jelkner | this is just a heads up | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i'll be talking to you about it when i'm there | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and showing you too | 11:12 |
| mulbah | which course | 11:12 |
| jelkner | two courses: | 11:12 |
| jelkner | CSC 215: Computer Systems | 11:12 |
| jelkner | CSC 223: Data Structures and Analysis of Algorithms | 11:13 |
| jelkner | it's our senior course | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i've been working on a curriculum to teach both courses using a simulator for a computer from 1975 | 11:13 |
| mulbah | okay | 11:13 |
| jelkner | the Altair 8800 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'll show you when i get there | 11:14 |
| jelkner | it you have time | 11:14 |
| jelkner | you could get work | 11:14 |
| mulbah | I have time jeff | 11:14 |
| jelkner | with me as customer | 11:14 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue | 11:14 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 11:14 |
| jelkner | you may want to plan a Jetro Web annual meeting while i'm there | 11:14 |
| dcammue | yes jelkner | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you should come together each year to set goals for the coming year | 11:15 |
| thomasboimah | sound good to me... | 11:15 |
| jelkner | while i'm there would be a good time to do that | 11:15 |
| dcammue | that's right | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you know i have a huge two year goal | 11:15 |
| jelkner | to start a school! | 11:15 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that means creating an NGO | 11:15 |
| gabriel | +1 | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and we need to get that started while i'm there | 11:16 |
| jelkner | jkollie: can you take charge of working with me on the SJC website? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | as customers, i mean? | 11:17 |
| jkollie | +1 jelkner | 11:17 |
| jelkner | We also need to update our information on the Virginia SCC website | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so that our current board members are listed | 11:18 |
| jelkner | do you know how to find that info, jkollie? | 11:18 |
| jkollie | I can, | 11:19 |
| jkollie | I have almost all the board members info | 11:19 |
| jkollie | I'll just email the rest for their info | 11:19 |
| jelkner | here is my question: can you access this site: https://cis.scc.virginia.gov/ ? | 11:20 |
| jelkner | tell me yes or no | 11:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah and dcammue, are you there with her? | 11:20 |
| thomasboimah | -1 | 11:21 |
| thomasboimah | she is not at the office yet | 11:21 |
| jkollie | It keeps loading jelkner | 11:21 |
| jelkner | got you | 11:21 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah: how are we coming on our irc bot? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | are we ready to use it for meeting agendas yet? | 11:21 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 11:21 |
| jelkner | before we start | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you and zOnny were discussing whether you could have one bot log all 3 channels | 11:22 |
| jelkner | what did you decide? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | then the bot would have the same name on each channel | 11:23 |
| thomasboimah | We come to a concluding to that but i am working on it | 11:23 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so should i wait before i start using it? | 11:23 |
| thomasboimah | No | 11:24 |
| jelkner | ok, then quick, help me set an agenda for our meeting on Wednesday | 11:24 |
| jelkner | !meetings | 11:24 |
| jelkner | !help | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | **Available Commands:** | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !agenda - Show agenda | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !listmeetings - List all meetings | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !remove - Remove agenda item | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !sethost - Change meeting host | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | !finishmeeting - Delete meeting | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | Type !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting) | 11:24 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:24 |
| BigBrother | ℹ️ No meetings currently scheduled. | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i see the instruction | 11:25 |
| jelkner | but it isn't good enough for me to know what to do | 11:25 |
| jelkner | let me try | 11:25 |
| thomasboimah | really??? | 11:25 |
| jelkner | so you can see what happens | 11:25 |
| jelkner | here goes | 11:25 |
| jelkner | !createmeeting "May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC" | 11:26 |
| BigBrother | Meeting '"May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC"' created successfully! | 11:26 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:26 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:26 |
| thomasboimah | so it have the default year, month and day because you did not provide one | 11:27 |
| jelkner | see what i mean | 11:27 |
| jelkner | times are *complicated*! | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | got you will update the description | 11:27 |
| jelkner | your instructions just said [on Day HH:MM TZ] | 11:27 |
| thomasboimah | to be clear | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i don't now how to list a TZ | 11:28 |
| jelkner | i guessed | 11:28 |
| jelkner | and i got it wrong | 11:28 |
| jelkner | remember, the customer is always right | 11:28 |
| thomasboimah | you are right | 11:28 |
| jelkner | even dumb customers like me ;-) | 11:28 |
| jelkner | if they don't understand | 11:28 |
| jelkner | (and i don't understand *a lot*) | 11:28 |
| thomasboimah | !help createmeeting | 11:29 |
| BigBrother | !createmeeting <description> [on Day HH:MM TZ] | 11:29 |
| BigBrother | !createmeeting Review 2026-04-27 15:30 | 11:29 |
| BigBrother | Time formats: 'on Sunday 14:30 UTC' or '2026-04-27 15:30' | 11:29 |
| jelkner | my bad | 11:29 |
| jelkner | this is nice! | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you have the feature | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i just needed a little training | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 11:30 |
| jelkner | the command !help <command> is proper | 11:30 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:30 |
| jelkner | !help | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | **Available Commands:** | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !agenda - Show agenda | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !listmeetings - List all meetings | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !remove - Remove agenda item | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !sethost - Change meeting host | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | !finishmeeting - Delete meeting | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | Type !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting) | 11:30 |
| jelkner | !remove May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC | 11:30 |
| BigBrother | No active meeting. | 11:30 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:31 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:31 |
| thomasboimah | you first need to activate the meeting | 11:31 |
| jelkner | that didn't work | 11:31 |
| thomasboimah | before you remove it | 11:31 |
| thomasboimah | !activatemeeting May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC | 11:31 |
| BigBrother | No meeting found with ID 'May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC'. | 11:31 |
| mulbah | The remove command move agenda only | 11:32 |
| jelkner | that's a bug | 11:32 |
| jelkner | we need to be able to cancel meetings | 11:32 |
| mulbah | you use the finish command to end the meeting and move it from the list of meetings | 11:32 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:32 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:32 |
| jelkner | help me out here thomasboimah | 11:32 |
| jelkner | please remove this | 11:32 |
| jelkner | so i can try to create it again | 11:32 |
| jelkner | we want to dogfood this app | 11:33 |
| jelkner | so we should start using it ASAP | 11:33 |
| thomasboimah | activate the meeting then | 11:33 |
| thomasboimah | finish it | 11:33 |
| thomasboimah | it will remove | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and then we can see where the pain points are | 11:33 |
| jelkner | !listmeetings | 11:33 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:33 |
| mulbah | and the the deactivemeeting don't remove the meeting it only deactivate the meeting | 11:33 |
| jelkner | !activatemeeting May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC | 11:34 |
| BigBrother | No meeting found with ID 'May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC'. | 11:34 |
| jelkner | that didn't work either | 11:34 |
| thomasboimah | I got where this is come from | 11:34 |
| jelkner | pretty buggy still i'd say ;-) | 11:34 |
| jelkner | ok i don't have time now for this | 11:34 |
| jelkner | but i hope you are taking notes | 11:34 |
| thomasboimah | the !activatemeeting command it expecting ID | 11:34 |
| jelkner | remember, you will be a pro when you can deliver working code that the customers *love*! | 11:34 |
| thomasboimah | But the !createmeeting is created with text | 11:35 |
| jelkner | don't tell me the details | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | So the !activatemeeting logic need to be update | 11:35 |
| jelkner | you're the dev | 11:35 |
| jelkner | i'm the customer | 11:35 |
| jelkner | just watch what i do | 11:35 |
| jelkner | and figure out why it isn't working for me | 11:35 |
| jelkner | that's your mission | 11:35 |
| jelkner | to deliver customer value, right? | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ok, since i can't put this in the agenda | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, will have time to come back today in 30min to fixed this quick? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | dcammue: will you write it down? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i have class all morning today | 11:36 |
| jelkner | so no | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i might | 11:36 |
| jelkner | but i can't promise | 11:36 |
| jelkner | probably not | 11:36 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 11:36 |
| jelkner | dcammue: do you have lesson plans for me to pull this morning? | 11:36 |
| dcammue | yes | 11:37 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, if dcammue can run his class, i can chat then | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | Okay | 11:37 |
| dcammue | i have pull request | 11:37 |
| jelkner | jkollie: will you be in the office then? | 11:37 |
| jkollie | +1 | 11:37 |
| jelkner | we want to see if you can login to the https://cis.scc.virginia.gov/ | 11:37 |
| dcammue | please check the gracehopper repo jelkner | 11:37 |
| jkollie | Okay | 11:38 |
| jelkner | we want you to be able to manage this non-profit | 11:38 |
| jelkner | so you can add and remove board members | 11:38 |
| jelkner | after the next board meeting | 11:38 |
| jelkner | we should try to remove Ved and Vrishin | 11:38 |
| jelkner | and we need to add Rachel | 11:38 |
| jelkner | then we need to update the website | 11:38 |
| jelkner | to reflect the current board | 11:38 |
| jelkner | we can discuss cjone's concern at our meeting | 11:39 |
| jkollie | Okay jelkner | 11:39 |
| jelkner | we can even use the irc bot to store the agenda | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and begin teaching the board how to use it | 11:39 |
| jelkner | *if* thomasboimah and zOnny can get it ready for us ;-) | 11:39 |
| jelkner | dcammue: i don't see a pull request | 11:41 |
| jelkner | let me know soon | 11:41 |
| jelkner | 18 minutes until class starts | 11:42 |
| dcammue | https://github.com/gracehoppercenter/ict | 11:43 |
| dcammue | jelkner, this | 11:43 |
| dcammue | check please | 11:43 |
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| thomasboimah | !listmeettings | 11:51 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 11:51 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 11:51 |
| thomasboimah | !activatemeeting May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC | 11:51 |
| BigBrother | No meeting found with ID 'May 6th Stand-up Meeting 15:00 UTC'. | 11:51 |
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| cjones | good morning, friends. i haven't chatted with you all in a while. i'm sitting in on jelker's class today and he asked me to pop in here. Hope you all are doing well =) | 12:07 |
| thomasboimah | We're good, hope you are doing good too | 12:08 |
| jkollie | Greet to see you cjones | 12:09 |
| dcammue | jkollie, thomasboimah, fkoikoi, svaye and gabriel, mulbah | 12:17 |
| mulbah | yes | 12:17 |
| dcammue | can we meet on What'sApp? | 12:17 |
| jkollie | dcammue: | 12:17 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 12:18 |
| svaye | dcammue: at what time? | 12:18 |
| jkollie | Alright | 12:18 |
| dcammue | now | 12:18 |
| svaye | Alright | 12:18 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:18 |
| dcammue | meeting point | 12:18 |
| thomasboimah | !createmeeting tboimah fixing logic bug on the bot | 12:29 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'tboimah fixing logic bug on the bot' created successfully! | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | !activatemeeting tboimah fixing logic bug on the bot | 12:29 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'tboimah fixing logic bug on the bot' is now active! | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | !finishmeeting | 12:29 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'tboimah fixing logic bug on the bot' has been finished and removed. | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeeting | 12:29 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 12:29 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 12:29 |
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| thomasboimah | jelkner, are you still here? | 12:34 |
| dcammue | thomasboimah, response for me please | 12:40 |
| thomasboimah | where bro | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | on whatsapp | 12:41 |
| thomasboimah | dcammue, | 12:41 |
| dcammue | i did | 12:41 |
| dcammue | thanks | 12:41 |
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| thomasboimah | !listmeeting | 13:27 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 13:27 |
| BigBrother | ℹ️ No meetings currently scheduled. | 13:27 |
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| thomasboimah | !createmeeting fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 1:00 UTC | 13:31 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 1:00 UTC' created successfully! | 13:31 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 13:31 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 13:31 |
| thomasboimah | !createmeeting fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 19:00 UTC | 13:32 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 19:00 UTC' created successfully! | 13:32 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 13:32 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 13:32 |
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| thomasboimah | !activatemeeting fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 1:00 UTC | 13:39 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 1:00 UTC' is now active! | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | !finishmeeting | 13:39 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 1:00 UTC' has been finished and removed. | 13:39 |
| thomasboimah | !activatemeeting fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 19:00 UTC | 13:40 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 19:00 UTC' is now active! | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 13:40 |
| BigBrother | **Scheduled Meetings:** | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | !finshmeeting | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | !finishmeeting | 13:40 |
| BigBrother | Meeting 'fixing and testing the bot 2026-05-04 19:00 UTC' has been finished and removed. | 13:40 |
| thomasboimah | !listmeetings | 13:40 |
| BigBrother | ℹ️ No meetings currently scheduled. | 13:40 |
| mkolleh | thomasboimah | 13:41 |
| thomasboimah | yes | 13:41 |
| mkolleh | I think jeff was saying the remove command should remove meeting too not only agenda | 13:42 |
| thomasboimah | But the finishmeeting command is doing that | 13:43 |
| mkolleh | I know but he was saying it | 13:44 |
| mkolleh | you have to activate the meeting before deleting it | 13:44 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 13:44 |
| mkolleh | You think it's cool like that | 13:45 |
| mkolleh | !help | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | **Available Commands:** | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !agenda - Show agenda | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !listmeetings - List all meetings | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !remove - Remove agenda item | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !sethost - Change meeting host | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | !finishmeeting - Delete meeting | 13:45 |
| BigBrother | Type !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting) | 13:45 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah, since it will relive the stress of activating meeting before removing it | 13:46 |
| mkolleh | you know how to use the host command | 13:46 |
| thomasboimah | Yeah | 13:46 |
| mkolleh | I trying adding function that only host can delete a message or the person that created it | 13:47 |
| mkolleh | the changes you made stop it from working | 13:48 |
| mkolleh | I think I need to pull your latest changes can you send me the repo ur using or it's the same repo | 13:48 |
| thomasboimah | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/little-webster/-/tree/deployment_websterss?ref_type=heads | 13:49 |
| thomasboimah | a channel OP can also delete | 13:49 |
| mkolleh | yes I forget to mention that too | 13:51 |
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| thomasboimah | mkolleh, | 14:02 |
| thomasboimah | don't forget their are try different bot for now, you will each bot branch here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/little-webster | 14:03 |
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| jelkner | dcammue: i always forget | 15:29 |
| jelkner | which channel do we meet in for class? | 15:29 |
| freena | Hi kthomas | 15:36 |
| kthomas | hello | 15:36 |
| jelkner | hello all | 15:38 |
| jelkner | let's see, is jkollie going to join us? | 15:38 |
| freena | Hello jelkner | 15:38 |
| freena | She's here already | 15:38 |
| jkollie | I'm here now jelkner | 15:38 |
| jelkner | lol | 15:38 |
| jelkner | perfect | 15:38 |
| jelkner | ok, before dcammue starts the class | 15:39 |
| jelkner | let me just touch base for 5 minutes so i help y'all think about your planning | 15:39 |
| jelkner | kthomas has only a few more weeks of school | 15:39 |
| freena | Okay | 15:39 |
| jelkner | about a month, i guess | 15:39 |
| jelkner | she knows that she needs to pass the certification to get an A for the course | 15:39 |
| jelkner | but i'll leave that up to her | 15:40 |
| jelkner | for jkollie and freena, if you two pass the certification | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i'll start hiring you to work on websites | 15:40 |
| jelkner | it would be great if you could pass before i arrive in Liberia | 15:40 |
| freena | Wow, we are going to do our best jelkner | 15:41 |
| jkollie | Sounds great | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i know you will freena | 15:41 |
| jelkner | so this is a great college level skill | 15:41 |
| jelkner | managing your own learning | 15:41 |
| jelkner | only you will know when you are ready | 15:41 |
| jelkner | and you will tell me | 15:41 |
| jelkner | and only then i will order the test for you | 15:42 |
| jelkner | sound good? | 15:42 |
| jkollie | +1 | 15:42 |
| freena | +1 | 15:42 |
| jelkner | nice! | 15:42 |
| jelkner | kthomas? | 15:42 |
| kthomas | yes | 15:42 |
| jelkner | great | 15:42 |
| jelkner | so let me not interfere with dcammue's class any more then... | 15:43 |
| jelkner | take it away, maestro | 15:43 |
| jelkner | (that's Spanish for teacher ;-) | 15:43 |
| jkollie | jelkner: I keep trying the link but it's not going through. | 15:43 |
| jkollie | I'll just ask thomasboimah for help | 15:43 |
| jelkner | thanks jkollie | 15:43 |
| dcammue | sorry i went to the rest room | 15:46 |
| dcammue | greeting everyone | 15:46 |
| freena | Okay teacher dcammue | 15:46 |
| jkollie | Greetings Prof | 15:47 |
| dcammue | great, let see the lesson for today | 15:49 |
| dcammue | before that | 15:49 |
| dcammue | welcome back again to our wonderful class | 15:49 |
| dcammue | https://ict.gracehopper.center/s26/courses/php/goals/session.html?num=15 | 15:50 |
| dcammue | please take a look and come back for lecture | 15:50 |
| jkollie | Okay | 15:51 |
| dcammue | please let me know if you are done | 15:51 |
| kthomas | im done | 15:53 |
| freena | I'm done | 15:53 |
| jkollie | Same here | 15:53 |
| freena | dcammue: ?? | 15:53 |
| dcammue | okay | 15:54 |
| dcammue | so firstly Q&A time | 15:54 |
| freena | dcammue: ?? | 15:54 |
| dcammue | do anyone has question? | 15:54 |
| dcammue | freena, | 15:54 |
| kthomas | no | 15:55 |
| jkollie | -1 for now | 15:55 |
| freena | I thought we discussed on web accessibility and A.R.I.A on thousand so today should have been session 14, isn't it?? | 15:56 |
| dcammue | no | 15:57 |
| freena | Oh, i get it | 15:57 |
| freena | You can go ahead dcammue | 15:58 |
| dcammue | today is recapping on session14 | 15:58 |
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| dcammue | so after today's class, your will go and read on today's lesson | 15:58 |
| dcammue | and come next for recap | 15:58 |
| dcammue | got it? | 15:59 |
| freena | +1 | 15:59 |
| kthomas | yes | 15:59 |
| dcammue | that's the pattern | 15:59 |
| jkollie | +1 | 15:59 |
| dcammue | so any question | 15:59 |
| kthomas | no | 15:59 |
| dcammue | because i have | 15:59 |
| dcammue | What is the importance of following HTML best practices? | 16:00 |
| jkollie | It's important because, it enable you to create well structure, accessible and maintainable web page | 16:02 |
| freena | Creating a well Structure and maintainable web page | 16:02 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:03 |
| dcammue | who can give me one or two HTML semantic elements | 16:04 |
| freena | The Header | 16:04 |
| jkollie | Nav | 16:04 |
| kthomas | main | 16:05 |
| dcammue | why we indent or do indentation? | 16:06 |
| svaye | div | 16:06 |
| kthomas | to make things cleaner | 16:07 |
| jkollie | For readability | 16:07 |
| freena | We indent to make your codes clearer and cleaner | 16:07 |
| dcammue | svaye, nope | 16:07 |
| svaye | we indent to make our codes easier to read | 16:08 |
| svaye | dcammue, is div not a semantic element? | 16:08 |
| dcammue | why we should not use deprecated tags? | 16:08 |
| dcammue | a none svaye | 16:08 |
| dcammue | it is a non-semantic | 16:08 |
| svaye | dcammue, thanks for the clarity | 16:09 |
| dcammue | it don't provides contextual information about the content it contains | 16:10 |
| dcammue | so why we should not use deprecated tags | 16:11 |
| dcammue | and what should be use instead? | 16:11 |
| jkollie | Because it's use for styling | 16:11 |
| jkollie | And we should use | 16:12 |
| jkollie | Css | 16:12 |
| svaye | we shouldn't use deprecated tags because they are outdated, we can use css instead | 16:12 |
| dcammue | sorry for the break in | 16:18 |
| dcammue | what is WCAG | 16:18 |
| jkollie | Web content Accessibility guidelines | 16:20 |
| dcammue | Why should the use of <br> tags be minimized? | 16:21 |
| jkollie | So that every sentence can't just be everywhere and on a new line | 16:22 |
| svaye | Because it should only be use to separate sentences and every word | 16:22 |
| svaye | not* | 16:22 |
| svaye | *not every word | 16:22 |
| freena | We use the <br> tags to to creates a line break (new line) | 16:23 |
| dcammue | why we should not use it too much | 16:23 |
| dcammue | not why we use it for | 16:23 |
| jkollie | We just answered dcammue | 16:23 |
| freena | Oh | 16:23 |
| dcammue | nope jkollie | 16:23 |
| freena | I get your question now | 16:23 |
| jkollie | How do you mean?? Read my answer again | 16:24 |
| dcammue | Why we should not use it too much | 16:24 |
| svaye | dcammue, we don't want a break in every word or line that's why we minimize the use of <br> | 16:24 |
| kthomas | too many breaks can create unnecessary spaces or something | 16:24 |
| jkollie | I understand you clearly dcammue | 16:24 |
| freena | We should minimized the usage of the <br> tag to avoid more or unnecessary line breaks or spaces | 16:25 |
| dcammue | Overusing them leads to poor code structure and reduces maintainability. | 16:25 |
| kthomas | how | 16:25 |
| jkollie | We are saying the same thing, dear Teacher | 16:26 |
| dcammue | we should use CSS for controlling line spacing and layout, | 16:26 |
| dcammue | not heavily relying on br tag | 16:27 |
| dcammue | i know we use it for line break | 16:28 |
| dcammue | but the question was why we should not over use it | 16:28 |
| dcammue | why not over use and why use are not the same | 16:29 |
| dcammue | why kthomas use break? | 16:29 |
| dcammue | to break lines | 16:30 |
| dcammue | why kthomas should not over use <br> tag (break)? | 16:30 |
| jkollie | Not over using and Minimizing | 16:31 |
| kthomas | because it ruins the code structure | 16:31 |
| kthomas | its just better to use css | 16:31 |
| dcammue | it create poor code structure and maintainability | 16:31 |
| dcammue | yes | 16:32 |
| dcammue | jkollie, | 16:32 |
| jkollie | Yes | 16:32 |
| dcammue | minimizing and not over use support the same idea | 16:32 |
| dcammue | minimizing means, reduce the use of something | 16:33 |
| dcammue | same as not over use | 16:33 |
| jkollie | If you are told to minimize the use of something, in other words you are being told to list your current usage or not to over use | 16:34 |
| dcammue | why should we validate web page? | 16:34 |
| jkollie | *Limit* | 16:34 |
| dcammue | jkollie, this is the same logic i am preaching here | 16:35 |
| jkollie | Got You dcammue | 16:36 |
| dcammue | why should we validate web page | 16:36 |
| jkollie | To make sure there's no error in our code and to correct any error Incase we have one | 16:37 |
| dcammue | +1 | 16:38 |
| dcammue | Why should inline styles be avoided? | 16:38 |
| svaye | to make sure our codes are up to task | 16:38 |
| svaye | inline styling should be avoided because it creates a lot of work and sometimes confusion | 16:39 |
| kthomas | i agree | 16:40 |
| dcammue | so why if i say | 16:41 |
| dcammue | ecause separating styles | 16:41 |
| dcammue | using CSS improves maintainability and consistency. | 16:41 |
| dcammue | *because | 16:42 |
| dcammue | grate | 16:42 |
| dcammue | we are making progress | 16:42 |
| jkollie | +1 | 16:42 |
| freena | +1 | 16:43 |
| kthomas | yes | 16:43 |
| svaye | definitely | 16:44 |
| dcammue | ACTION has an image with the alt attribute, and its value, why is it important for dcammue image to have alt attribute? | 16:44 |
| dcammue | *has | 16:45 |
| freena | To give the reader a clear understanding of what the image is about, just incase the image is not diaplaying | 16:46 |
| dcammue | +1 | 16:49 |
| jelkner | hi all | 16:49 |
| dcammue | that's great freena | 16:50 |
| dcammue | hi jelkner | 16:50 |
| jelkner | the 5 minute bell just rang | 16:50 |
| dcammue | okay | 16:50 |
| jelkner | dcammue, can i butt in a minute? | 16:50 |
| dcammue | ACTION done and leave jelkner finishes | 16:50 |
| jelkner | i just want to reinforce what your teacher said earlier about <br> tags | 16:51 |
| jelkner | don't use them much | 16:51 |
| jelkner | don't use them for white space! | 16:51 |
| jelkner | in other words, if you want additional space between areas of your page | 16:51 |
| jelkner | use CSS, not a bunch of <br> tags | 16:51 |
| jelkner | HTML tags should be as semantic as possible | 16:52 |
| jelkner | they are about intend, not appearance | 16:52 |
| jelkner | CSS is our style language | 16:52 |
| jelkner | we use it whenver we want our page to look a certain way | 16:52 |
| jelkner | so the only really appropriate use of <br> is when you want a line break inside a paragraph | 16:53 |
| jelkner | for example, in a poem or a song | 16:53 |
| jelkner | you want the lines to break | 16:53 |
| jelkner | inside the same stanza (paragraph) | 16:53 |
| jelkner | does that make sense? | 16:53 |
| jkollie | +1 jelkner | 16:54 |
| jelkner | oops indent | 16:54 |
| jelkner | i misspelled that | 16:54 |
| jelkner | sorry | 16:54 |
| jelkner | great, kthomas is about to leave | 16:54 |
| freena | +1 | 16:54 |
| jelkner | see you wednesday | 16:54 |
| jelkner | bell just rang | 16:55 |
| svaye | +1 | 16:55 |
| dcammue | thanks jelkner | 16:55 |
| dcammue | for the clarity | 16:55 |
| kthomas | bye everyone | 16:55 |
| freena | Okay jelkner | 16:55 |
| jkollie | You too, Take care jelkner | 16:55 |
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| dcammue | byt | 16:55 |
| jelkner | you are awsome dcammue | 16:55 |
| jelkner | this is *wondeful*! | 16:55 |
| jelkner | wonderful | 16:55 |
| jelkner | exit | 16:55 |
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| freena | Thanks dcammue for the class today | 16:55 |
| freena | Bye everyone | 16:55 |
| dcammue | thanks to you all | 16:55 |
| dcammue | good night | 16:55 |
| dcammue | and don | 16:56 |
| freena | ACTION sign off for today | 16:56 |
| jkollie | My pre birthday Teacher | 16:56 |
| dcammue | not forget to post | 16:56 |
| jkollie | Have a great day all | 16:56 |
| jkollie | I won't | 16:56 |
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| svaye | have a wonderful rest of the day everyone | 16:56 |
| svaye | ACTION signs off | 16:57 |
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| dcammue | you too svaye | 16:57 |
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