IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Monday, 2026-05-11

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mulbahGood morning10:52
gabrielGood morning mulbah10:53
thomasboimahGood morning comrade!10:59
jelknerYesterday i worked on web server configuration and today i'll be continuing with that process. No blockers.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
thomasboimahDuring the weekend, I attended our work session and worked with zOnny. I also took a survey (for the Nova Web Dev team) that resl asked me to do. Today I will be helping gabriel_jetro understand the LiberOrganize .json file dump and load process. I will also delete the mdlatino server, since they have moved to WordPress now and are no longer with us. No blockers.11:00
thomasboimahACTION done11:00
jkollieYesterday I did a recap of my previous lessons and do some practical. Today I'll start by editing some of my work, check in NoVASEN and prepare for class if there is. No blocker 11:00
jkollieACTION done 11:00
jelknerMadam president, don't forget we have our SJC board meeting next Sunday.11:01
jelknerIt's time for a reminder email ;-)11:01
jelknerthomasboimah: do you have a few minutes now to update me on our irc bot?11:02
thomasboimah+111:02
jkollieYes it's Time 11:02
jkollieThanks for reminding me;-)11:02
thomasboimahlet test it together11:02
jelknerNP11:02
jelkner+111:02
jelkner!help11:02
BigBrother**Available Commands:**11:02
BigBrother   !add            - Add agenda item11:02
BigBrother   !agenda         - Show agenda11:02
BigBrother   !listmeetings   - List all meetings11:02
BigBrother   !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting11:02
BigBrother   !remove         - Remove agenda item11:02
BigBrother   !sethost        - Change meeting host11:02
BigBrother   !finishmeeting  - Delete meeting (when the meeting is active)11:02
BigBrotherType !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting)11:02
jelkner!listmeetings11:02
BigBrotherℹ️ No meetings currently scheduled.11:02
thomasboimah!help createmeeting11:03
BigBrother!createmeeting <description> [on Day HH:MM TZ]11:03
BigBrother   !createmeeting Review 2026-04-27 15:3011:03
BigBrotherTime formats: 'on Sunday 14:30 UTC' or '2026-04-27 15:30'11:03
jelknerok, we should schedule our meeting for Wednesday thomasboimah 11:03
jelknerlet me try11:03
thomasboimahuse the format for the time: 2026-04-27 15:3011:03
thomasboimah*this11:03
dcammueOn Friday, i change two machines Operating System and named them Inkscape and Gimp, with the usernames jetroweb for both machines because there is no one specifically using them now. i wrote my French midterm on Saturday so i was not able to attend the sat meeting, on yesterday, i studied my management notes for midterm on tomorrow. today, i will be preparing the lesson for the web school. No blocker.11:04
dcammuesorry11:04
jelknerwhat about the Sunday 12:00 UTC example?11:04
dcammuei actually lost the clock11:04
dcammue;-(11:04
jelknerdcammue: you missed a lot of discussion over the weekend11:04
jelknerplease try to catch up11:04
thomasboimahit also work11:04
jelknerthat's the time we get to work with zOnny11:05
jelknerso it is really important11:05
thomasboimahyou can use anyone of them11:05
dcammuei will read the logs today11:05
jelknerok, here goes:11:05
dcammueand get updated11:05
jelkner!createmeeting Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting on Wednesday 11:00 UTC11:05
BigBrotherMeeting 'Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting' created successfully!11:05
jelknernice!11:05
jelknerthat worked11:06
jelkner;-)11:06
jelkner!listmeetings11:06
BigBrother**Scheduled Meetings:**11:06
jelkner!help11:06
BigBrother**Available Commands:**11:06
BigBrother   !add            - Add agenda item11:06
BigBrother   !agenda         - Show agenda11:06
BigBrother   !listmeetings   - List all meetings11:06
BigBrother   !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting11:06
BigBrother   !remove         - Remove agenda item11:06
BigBrother   !sethost        - Change meeting host11:06
BigBrother   !finishmeeting  - Delete meeting (when the meeting is active)11:06
BigBrotherType !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting)11:06
jelknerok, thomasboimah, i'm still not clear on the workflow11:06
jelkneronce we start creating multiple meetings11:07
thomasboimahif you need more detail about any command just do !help "the command"11:07
jelknerhow do we "select a meeting" to add agenda items to?11:07
jelkner!help add11:07
BigBrother!add <agenda item>11:07
thomasboimahyou need to activate the meeting jelkner 11:07
thomasboimahbefore you add the agenda item11:07
jelknergot you11:08
jelknerdeactivemeeting needs a grammer fix11:08
jelknershould be deactivatemeeting11:08
jelknerlike activatemeeting11:08
thomasboimahOkay11:08
thomasboimah!help activatemeeting11:08
BigBrother!activatemeeting <meeting_id>11:08
thomasboimahthat should actual be meeting text instead of meeting ID11:09
jelknerwhat's the meeting id?11:09
thomasboimahwill change the grammer11:09
jelkneri'm wondering if we should generate a 4 character id that we can use to select a meeting11:09
thomasboimahnope11:10
jelknernope? please explain, i don't understand11:10
thomasboimahjelkner, activate the meeting with "!activatemeeting  Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting"11:10
jelkneri but that is a lot to type11:10
jelknerand it is error prone11:10
jelknerspelling mistakes will happen, etc11:11
jelknerand when you're in a rush, typing "Wednesday Jetro STand-up Meeting" will take too much time11:11
jelknerand notice my spelling mistake11:11
jelkneri wonder if that would still work?11:12
jelkneris it case sensitive?11:12
thomasboimahyes11:12
jelknerso i could get an error here11:12
thomasboimahNice point!11:12
jelknerand then say, "Darn! I don't have time to add items now"11:12
thomasboimahwill looking into that11:12
jelknercool11:12
jelknerfor now, i'll go with it11:12
thomasboimahOkay thanks11:13
jelkner!activatemeeting Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting11:13
BigBrotherMeeting 'Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting' is now active!11:13
jelkner!add Discuss laptop needs for Jetro co-op so Jelkner can plan what to bring.11:13
BigBrotherAdded to agenda: 'Discuss laptop needs for Jetro co-op so Jelkner can plan what to bring.' (by jelkner)11:13
jelkner!help11:14
BigBrother**Available Commands:**11:14
BigBrother   !add            - Add agenda item11:14
BigBrother   !agenda         - Show agenda11:14
BigBrother   !listmeetings   - List all meetings11:14
BigBrother   !deactivemeeting - Stop active meeting11:14
BigBrother   !remove         - Remove agenda item11:14
BigBrother   !sethost        - Change meeting host11:14
BigBrother   !finishmeeting  - Delete meeting (when the meeting is active)11:14
BigBrotherType !help <command> for details (e.g., !help createmeeting)11:14
jelkner!agenda11:14
BigBrother**Agenda for 'Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting':**11:14
jelkner!deactivemeeting11:14
BigBrotherMeeting 'Wednesday Jetro Stand-up Meeting' is no longer active.11:14
jelknercool11:14
jelknerbaby steps11:14
thomasboimahyeah11:14
jelknernow we need to do two things:11:14
jelkner1. We need to start using it, training each other.11:14
jelkner2. We need to continue to make improvements based on our user experience.11:15
jelknerdcammue: i haven't heard anything from you regarding the equipment list11:15
jelknerbut we are running short on time11:15
jelknerif y'all want me to bring more equipment11:15
jelkneri need to know at this point that Jetro is a legitimate enough co-op to be able to plan its needs.11:16
jelknerso i'm looking for thoughtful reflection on:11:16
jelkner1. What you have available now and how it is being used.11:16
dcammueso jelkner have you fix the web class link?11:16
jelkner2. What you will need in the coming 2 years to handle growth of the co-op.11:17
dcammuei have work on two machines but not yet updated the list11:17
jelknerdid you see my check-in this morning dcammue?11:17
jelknerthat's what i'm working on11:17
dcammueso as folks come to works, i change each one11:17
jelknerwhen cjones gets in this morning, i'll work with him on the transfer11:18
dcammuewhere jelkner ?11:18
jelknerwhere what?11:18
dcammueyour checkin?11:19
jelknerhere in irc11:19
jelknerat the start of our meeting11:19
dcammueokay11:19
dcammuei saw it11:20
dcammuegreat11:20
thomasboimahACTION going in the bath room11:21
jelknerdcammue: get thomasboimah's help with the inventory list11:21
jelknersince we really are running out of time11:21
jelknerand failure to get it done will cost Jetro11:21
jelkneri won't bring laptops if Jetro can't manage them11:22
jelknerit will be a waste of precious resources11:22
jelkneri am willing and eager to bring what you need11:22
jelknerbut if you don't know what you need, i can't bring anything11:22
jelknerdcammue: make sense?11:22
jelkneri'm looking at the spreadsheet11:23
jelknerand you haven't updated it since last week11:23
jelkneroh wait, yes you have11:23
jelknergood11:24
jelknerso let's meet on wednesday with the members11:24
jelknerand discuss your needs11:24
jelknerdcammue: are you looking at the document?11:24
jelknerhello dcammue, are you here?11:25
jelkneranyone here?11:25
thomasboimahyes11:25
gabrielyes11:25
thomasboimahACTION back11:26
jelknergood, i don't know what happened to dcammue 11:26
dcammuesorry11:26
jelknerthomasboimah: who should i talk to about this?11:26
dcammuei was attending to somethong11:26
jelkneri really want to talk with the whole co-op11:26
thomasboimahdcammue, 11:26
jelknerdcammue: can we deal with this now?11:26
thomasboimahsure11:27
dcammueso concerning the document11:27
jelkneryes11:27
dcammueas per the operating agreement?11:27
jelkneryes?11:27
jelknerdcammue: i have students coming soon11:29
jelknerlet's move fast on this11:29
jelkneror else do it later11:29
jelknerthomasboimah: let me start with you11:29
thomasboimah okay11:29
dcammuesvaye did some research on it11:29
dcammueand she said we need bylaw11:30
jelknerare you using that HP Powerbook as your main dev device?11:30
dcammueans shareholder agreement11:30
thomasboimah+111:30
thomasboimahfor now11:30
jelknerso this is exactly why i wanted to start this conversation ASAP!11:31
jelknerwe are running out of time, but i've been planning already11:31
jelknerlet me update you11:31
thomasboimahIf you bring some that is more good them it I will have to transfer my data11:31
dcammueso we are trying to prepare our or switch to LLC11:31
thomasboimahto the one you will bring11:31
jelknerthomasboimah: this is where scooper used to be such a big help11:31
jelkneri was hoping mulbah would take his place on that11:31
jelknerbut it looks like nobody has11:32
jelknerit is *a lot* to learn, i understand11:32
jelknerbut having machines running PeppermintOS 11 and Uubntu 22.04 in 2026 doesn't make sense11:32
jelknerso it seems we should set as a goal this Summer teach some of the Jetro members how to install operating systems11:33
jelknerand how to migrate users11:33
jelknerit's *easy* on GNU/Linux11:33
jelknerdcammue: it shouldn't be you who does all this11:35
dcammuei started that already jelkner 11:35
jelknerbut as the functioning business manager11:35
jelkneryou need to know who can11:35
dcammuebut i am not seeing the courage jelkner 11:35
jelknerthomasboimah and dcammue, check out: https://github.com/gracehoppercenter/ict/blob/main/resources/ict_webserver_setup.md11:35
thomasboimahjelkner, we have ventoy that have the latest iso of PeppermintOS and linux-mint 11:35
jelknerdcammue asked about the server11:35
dcammueACTION still seeing who can11:35
jelknermulbah: what is your interest in Jetro Web?11:36
dcammuebut in the main time i can take on things before then11:36
jelkneri want to help dcammue manage us11:36
jelknerbut we need to let him know what we can do, what we like to do, and what we're willing to do.11:36
jelknerthomasboimah: back to you11:37
jelknersince as lead dev, i plan to start with you11:37
jelkneri found a laptop model series i really like11:37
jelknerASUS Vivobooks11:37
thomasboimahI will be glad to learn from you, since that is one of my goal when you can to learn more from you11:37
jelkner+111:37
thomasboimah*come11:37
jelknerwe can do that11:38
jelknerthe Vivobooks boot *fast*11:38
jelknerand run nicely11:38
jelknermy favorite distro these days is Linuxmint DE (Debian Edition)11:38
thomasboimahversion 23.211:39
jelknerno, 711:39
jelknerthe DE editions have a different numbering sequence11:39
jelknerhttps://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php11:40
jelkneranyway, dcammue at our wednesday meeting you will see another laptop on the list11:40
dcammueyes, that's what i am using now to change the machines 11:40
dcammueos11:40
jelknerthe one i think we should issue to thomasboimah 11:40
jelknernice dcammue 11:41
jelknerif you know how to do that11:41
jelknershow thomasboimah 11:41
dcammuei do know11:41
jelknerexcellent!11:41
jelknerok, cjones just arrived11:42
jelknerif y'11:42
thomasboimahdcammue, the one on the ventoy usb is Linux-mint23.2 not the Linuxmint DE11:42
thomasboimah711:42
jelknerso you need to add that11:42
dcammue+1 11:42
dcammuenot the first ventoy11:42
thomasboimahI guess we will have to download iso for Linuxmint DE 711:42
jelknerif y'all stay in the irc channel i'll try got rejoin11:42
jelknergotta go11:42
dcammuethe second one i fix11:42
jelknerACTION signs off11:42
jelkner has quit (Quit: Leaving)11:43
dcammuefixed11:43
thomasboimahgot you dcammue 11:43
thomasboimahgabriel, are you at the office?11:44
gabrielyes11:44

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