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| dcammue | during the weekend, i just been reading on my Upcoming final lessons. today, i will update the calendar after washing my clothes. no blocker. | 11:00 |
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| thomasboimah | Yesterday I attended our developer weekend work session. I pushed the permission issue update made on the bot to the repo and pulled it to the server. Today I will be focusing on the Cosmetology app. My blocker is getting the user stories for those apps. I will try to email Kara to ask if there is one. | 11:00 |
| dcammue | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Today i have a collective bargaining meeting all day for my union, and then a monthly union meeting. | 11:00 |
| jkollie | Yesterday I started reviewing the summary note and points I've been taking down to prepare for my test, Today I'll start taking quizzes from the w3schools site. No blocker | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jkollie | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| jelkner | good morning jetro! | 11:01 |
| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:01 |
| thomasboimah | Good morning jelkner! | 11:01 |
| jelkner | 15 days until i'll be in monrovia | 11:01 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue we have some very important work to do | 11:01 |
| gabriel_jetro | last week i work with zonny and thomasboimah in setting up the cjones student project on my local and all works fine, today ill be cloning AMS repo to have it running on my local machine, there's no blocker now | 11:02 |
| gabriel_jetro | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| svaye | We are excited to have you here jelkner | 11:02 |
| jelkner | resl has been putting in a lot of effort to get our business planning in place | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | yesterday, I completed the html part of my project page. Today, i plan to style my website | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue did you see the document she shared on our nextcloud? | 11:02 |
| fkoikoi | ACTION done | 11:02 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION looking at it now | 11:03 |
| fkoikoi | we are excited to see you jelkner | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i'm excited to be there fkoikoi and svaye! | 11:03 |
| mulbah | Good morning to all | 11:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, do you have access to it? | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | The inventory? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | no | 11:03 |
| jelkner | https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/files/files/43459088?dir=/NOVAWebDev/Documents/Administration&openfile=true | 11:04 |
| thomasboimah | It says the file could not be found | 11:04 |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 11:04 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, let's try to figure this out | 11:05 |
| jelkner | you can dcammue should have access | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so let's figure out why you don't | 11:05 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue you can't access the NWD shared drive on May First? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | What is the name of the file? | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | I have access to the share NWD drive | 11:07 |
| thomasboimah | I can look for it once i know the name of the file | 11:08 |
| thomasboimah | Is it finace note? | 11:08 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:08 |
| thomasboimah | bingo! | 11:08 |
| jelkner | why did my link not work? | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | jelkner, you link work now, the issue was from me | 11:09 |
| thomasboimah | *your | 11:09 |
| jelkner | ok good | 11:10 |
| jelkner | dcammue, can you see it? | 11:10 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:10 |
| jelkner | ok, do you have time to talk about this now? | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i have about an hour | 11:11 |
| jelkner | before i have to leave for my meeting | 11:11 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 11:11 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:11 |
| dcammue | i can talk about it now | 11:11 |
| jelkner | firstly, please read the document | 11:14 |
| jelkner | tell me when you've finished | 11:14 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:14 |
| jelkner | dcammue, okay you are finished? | 11:16 |
| dcammue | small more | 11:16 |
| jkollie | Lol dcammue | 11:17 |
| jelkner | ACTION is waiting on thomasboimah and dcammue to continue... | 11:20 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done reading | 11:20 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, any thoughts? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | what is resl trying to accomplish with this? | 11:21 |
| thomasboimah | from what i see The document describes the financial state and operational constraints of NWD. | 11:22 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | but not only NWD, right? | 11:22 |
| thomasboimah | which i see the Members have a target capital account balance of $11,000 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | it also mentions Jetro in the last 2 paragraphs | 11:22 |
| jelkner | what do you think about those 2 paragraphs? | 11:22 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:23 |
| dcammue | i am done | 11:23 |
| dcammue | can we continue jelkner | 11:23 |
| jelkner | same questions for you dcammue | 11:23 |
| jelkner | look at the logs | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i started asking thomasboimah already | 11:23 |
| jelkner | and have the same questions for you both | 11:23 |
| jelkner | well? | 11:24 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION hears a deafening silence ;-) | 11:26 |
| dcammue | so she is trying to say that all novaweb members should be able to make a $25 per month | 11:26 |
| dcammue | in order to make a live in the US | 11:26 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, are you ready? | 11:26 |
| thomasboimah | Okay this is what i understand from the last two paragraph | 11:27 |
| dcammue | so what i am seeing here is that, she trying to give some level of motivation to members so that they can not leave | 11:27 |
| jelkner | in some sense | 11:27 |
| jelkner | if i get your meaning right | 11:28 |
| jelkner | we are trying to keep a business together | 11:28 |
| jelkner | which means having members able and willing to stay together | 11:28 |
| jelkner | that requires them to make a living | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so yes | 11:28 |
| thomasboimah | What i see is that The Jetro receives $1,000 USD per month in funding from Jeff. This amount is divided by 2 developers: $400 each, 1 administrator: $100 Operations and office expenses: $100 | 11:28 |
| jelkner | is that accurate? | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | But here is my question | 11:29 |
| dcammue | so when members are satisfied, they stay and work effective and efficiently | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | What is the administrator? | 11:29 |
| thomasboimah | *who | 11:29 |
| jelkner | nice | 11:29 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, we are on the same page | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you don't know, and i don't know | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so let me share my reaction with you now, as it pertains to y'all at Jetro and the things you will need to do if we are going to launch this business: | 11:30 |
| jelkner | 1. resl is trying to get a handle on NWD finances and constraints, exactly as thomasboimah said | 11:31 |
| jelkner | 2. she doesn't have a clear idea of how things work at Jetro (as indicated by her reference to a non-existent manager) | 11:31 |
| jelkner | 3. part of the reason she doesn't have a clear picture is because we haven't communicated one to her! | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 4. we need to make resolving 3 a top priority | 11:32 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:32 |
| jelkner | things are moving fast now | 11:32 |
| jelkner | maybe faster than we are ready for | 11:32 |
| jelkner | i hope not | 11:32 |
| jelkner | but buckle up, comrades, it's going to be a fast ride now! | 11:33 |
| jelkner | Jetro will have to try to follow along with what resl is doing | 11:33 |
| jelkner | to understand it | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and to contribute | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we at NWD can't plan to include Jetro in our plan if Jetro doesn't have a plan of its own | 11:34 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 11:34 |
| gabriel_jetro | understood | 11:34 |
| thomasboimah | Yes! | 11:34 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:34 |
| svaye | +1 jelkner | 11:34 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:34 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, gabriel_jetro did you get invited to the survey? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | dcammue, you too | 11:34 |
| dcammue | which survey? | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | I did get a survey link for resl befor | 11:35 |
| jkollie | +1 | 11:35 |
| jelkner | great | 11:35 |
| jelkner | did you fill it out? | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | I Amazon give me $30 gift card | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | *and | 11:35 |
| dcammue | i did that but did not get any respond | 11:35 |
| jelkner | wait | 11:35 |
| thomasboimah | Yes | 11:35 |
| jelkner | that's a different survey | 11:35 |
| jelkner | this one she sent recently | 11:35 |
| jelkner | it asked about each of our skills and availability | 11:36 |
| thomasboimah | Link Please.. | 11:36 |
| jelkner | hmmmm... | 11:36 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION going the filter my mail to see if i can find it | 11:37 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, dcammue check your email | 11:37 |
| jelkner | title is "Form Instead for Offerings Survey" | 11:37 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION found it | 11:37 |
| thomasboimah | Will take that survey today | 11:37 |
| jelkner | great | 11:38 |
| jelkner | and think about what resl is trying to accomplish with it | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | https://share.mayfirst.org/apps/forms/XJL4fAKSeMEai493 | 11:38 |
| jelkner | so that you can do something simliar at jetro | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | That is the link ^ | 11:38 |
| jelkner | yes, i know | 11:38 |
| jelkner | i think only thomasboimah and dcammue should complete that now | 11:38 |
| thomasboimah | Yep, because it is for NWD | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | Jetro will also create one for JETRO | 11:39 |
| jelkner | since you two are the overlap between our two co-ops | 11:39 |
| jelkner | yes, thomasboimah | 11:39 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm suggesting | 11:39 |
| thomasboimah | resl is Doing a great work! | 11:40 |
| jelkner | in sociocracy terms, we will be working toward a central business planning circle | 11:40 |
| thomasboimah | resl really do play the operating role for NWD well. | 11:40 |
| jelkner | and you two, thomasboimah and dcammue, will be the Jero representatives there | 11:40 |
| jelkner | but you also need to operate your own internal development as a local Liberian cooperative | 11:41 |
| jelkner | getting gabriel_jetro ready to do paid work is a big part of that | 11:41 |
| jelkner | since he will be the first new Jetro member, after thomasboimah and dcammue, ready for that | 11:42 |
| jelkner | you need a plan for the others | 11:42 |
| jelkner | if they want to earn a living | 11:42 |
| thomasboimah | Yep! | 11:42 |
| jelkner | you need to think very concretely about what billable service they can provide | 11:42 |
| jelkner | oh, dcammue, on another not, is there a merge request today? | 11:42 |
| jelkner | i didn't look | 11:43 |
| jelkner | well dcammue? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | yes or no? | 11:43 |
| dcammue | not now, please. later in an hour | 11:44 |
| jelkner | i can't | 11:44 |
| jelkner | i'll be at the union meeting all day | 11:44 |
| jelkner | you don't have to post it today | 11:44 |
| jelkner | that's ok | 11:44 |
| thomasboimah | I can help to merge it then | 11:44 |
| jelkner | nice thomasboimah | 11:44 |
| jelkner | that will work | 11:44 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else for me before i go? | 11:45 |
| dcammue | no jelkner | 11:45 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll leave you with a few parting thoughts: | 11:45 |
| jelkner | 1. You need to create a budget for the $1K per month that can be shared with resl so she understands your expenses | 11:46 |
| dcammue | jelkner, i will do and update on the inventory list. please check tomorrow | 11:46 |
| jelkner | 2. Explain that there are currently only two salaried members: thomasboimah and dcammue at $400 per month | 11:46 |
| dcammue | okay i will do so | 11:46 |
| jelkner | also explain what the other operating expenses are | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and whether the remaining $200 per month can cover them | 11:47 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:47 |
| jelkner | 3. Finally, we need to make clear that to expand Jetro, it will need additional income beyond the $1K | 11:47 |
| jelkner | so when we want to add gabriel_jetro as salaried member, we need to increase the monthly revenue beyond the $1K by that amount | 11:48 |
| jelkner | or we can't do it | 11:48 |
| jelkner | and so forth for each other member | 11:48 |
| jelkner | that will only be possible by finding "paying gigs for our Django band" ;-) | 11:49 |
| dcammue | sure | 11:49 |
| jelkner | we are still in the learning stage | 11:49 |
| thomasboimah | yes, is there a plan in get some now | 11:49 |
| jelkner | but we are also in the working stage | 11:49 |
| jelkner | and those two things will go together | 11:50 |
| jelkner | we will continue to hone our skills through paid gigs | 11:50 |
| thomasboimah | Yes, as the saying go learning on the Job | 11:50 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:50 |
| jelkner | nice thomasboimah! | 11:50 |
| jelkner | that's how we'll survive | 11:50 |
| thomasboimah | We Jetro badly need paid gigs now jelkner | 11:51 |
| jelkner | and when fkoikoi, jkollie, mulbah and svaye see that thomasboimah, dcammue and gabriel_jetro are able to make it work | 11:51 |
| jelkner | they will be motivated to work hard to develop the skills they need to join the team | 11:51 |
| jelkner | As the saying goes, thomasboimah, "nothing succeeds like success!" ;-) | 11:52 |
| thomasboimah | lol | 11:52 |
| jelkner | ok, i have to go | 11:53 |
| jelkner | see you wednesday morning, same time, same channel | 11:53 |
| thomasboimah | Okay you too | 11:53 |
| dcammue | okay jelkner | 11:53 |
| dcammue | thanks | 11:53 |
| gabriel_jetro | have a nice day jelkner | 11:53 |
| jelkner | have a great rest of your day, y'all. I can't wait to be there with you! | 11:53 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:54 |
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| jelkner | Oops | 11:54 |
| jelkner | i'm back | 11:54 |
| dcammue | okay | 11:55 |
| jelkner | since i forgot to mention one other thing | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i've been doing a bit of research | 11:55 |
| jelkner | and found this helpful link: | 11:55 |
| jelkner | https://livingcostindex.com/countries/liberia/ | 11:55 |
| jelkner | we will soon be having very interesting discussions about economics | 11:55 |
| jelkner | social wages | 11:55 |
| jelkner | just wages | 11:55 |
| jelkner | etc. | 11:55 |
| jelkner | we own our own business | 11:56 |
| jelkner | so there are many things we get to decide | 11:56 |
| jelkner | but we need to understand well to make good decisions | 11:56 |
| jelkner | anyway, we'll be talking about all this *a lot* during my visit | 11:56 |
| jelkner | bye again (and this time i mean it ;-) | 11:57 |
| jkollie | Sounds great | 11:57 |
| gabriel_jetro | sure | 11:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off until wednesday | 11:57 |
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| resl | Hey, dcammue is here? | 13:40 |
| dcammue | yes | 13:41 |
| dcammue | how are you resl | 13:41 |
| resl | I'm ok! How are you? | 13:42 |
| dcammue | fine resl | 13:42 |
| resl | dcammue: I notice that there is a Social Justice Computing folder in the NWD NextCloud drive. I know it can be a bit awkward at first, but since SJC has its own organization-level May First membership, it has its own NextCloud account as well. | 13:42 |
| resl | I can get things moved so that the SJC admin account is the owner of the SJC files, but you can also do this I think. I think I have already made you one of the admins of the SJC Team from the SJC admin account. | 13:42 |
| resl | dcammue: Jeff appears to be the owner of most files in most organization admin-level NextCloud drives, so I probably need to work with him a bit to get that sorted, but I think nonetheless, we can still try to keep things organized into their respective groups to some extent before then | 13:44 |
| dcammue | sure | 13:45 |
| dcammue | that's a great idea | 13:45 |
| resl | Okay, cool. Have I also already asked you if you can fill out your availability in the appointment scheduler feature on NextCloud? If you have a minute, I can do a Signal call with you to show you that | 13:49 |
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| dcammue | jelkner, | 14:34 |
| dcammue | are you here? | 14:34 |
| dcammue | resl, | 14:49 |
| dcammue | are you still here | 14:49 |
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