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| jelkner | Good morning remindBot, good morning Big_Brother! | 08:35 |
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| jelkner | !remind Agenda for next meeting: 1. PWPC websites top priority. Discuss a) skills needed b) collaboration c) workflow | 08:36 |
| remindBot | will print Agenda for next meeting: 1. PWPC websites top priority. Discuss a) skills needed b) collaboration c) workflow at 2017-05-02 19:00:00 | 08:36 |
| jelkner | Looking at slack alternatives, I found mattermost: https://about.mattermost.com/ | 09:58 |
| jelkner | Good morning mjsir911! | 09:58 |
| jelkner | As usual, it's you, me, and the Bots ;-) | 09:58 |
| jelkner | You really need to work on your AI skills, so that you can get the Bots to talk back to me when you're not around. | 09:59 |
| jelkner | remindBot does that a little, but only to confirm that it has done what I asked it to do. | 10:00 |
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| mr_german | Hello, jelkner | 13:17 |
| jelkner | Hello, mr_german! | 13:18 |
| jelkner | did you register this name? | 13:18 |
| mr_german | yes! I did jelkner | 13:18 |
| jelkner | hold on, i'm chatting with edzon | 13:21 |
| mr_german | Ok jelkner | 13:23 |
| jelkner | OK, mr_german, i'm back | 13:26 |
| jelkner | we need to plan together | 13:27 |
| jelkner | as we have been saying, you are the key to getting novawebdev going at this point | 13:27 |
| jelkner | we are going to build the business around you first, then start to add customers until we have enough business to bring in the other people | 13:27 |
| mr_german | yes | 13:28 |
| jelkner | the goal is to be able to provide them enough business so they can quit their other jobs and work full time with us | 13:28 |
| jelkner | that is going to be tricky | 13:28 |
| jelkner | but we need to jump on in and give it a go | 13:28 |
| jelkner | the websites you are doing for PWPC are *very* important | 13:29 |
| mr_german | Yes, I understand that is a good oportunity for us! | 13:30 |
| jelkner | what is really good is that we are learning through this project just what we need to offer real website value to customers | 13:30 |
| jelkner | we need a graphics designer | 13:30 |
| jelkner | i talked to daniela this morning | 13:31 |
| jelkner | i hope she comes through | 13:31 |
| mr_german | yeah , because we need to change the header for Elizabeth's page | 13:31 |
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| mr_german | Hi, replaceafill | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | hey mr_german | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | gosh... are you sticking with mr_german this time? | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | i mean, sticking with that nickname? | 13:32 |
| mr_german | I changed | 13:33 |
| mr_german | my password | 13:33 |
| mr_german | now I can use it again ;-) | 13:33 |
| replaceafill | good | 13:33 |
| mr_german | brb | 13:35 |
| jelkner | mr_german is a fine name, as long as it is registered ;-) | 13:37 |
| jelkner | good afternoon, replaceafill | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | good afternoon jelkner | 13:37 |
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| zOnny | quit | 13:40 |
| jelkner | i'll be working hard with mr_german to get the PWPC websites finished | 13:41 |
| jelkner | and then with louisea to look for new customers | 13:42 |
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| mr_german | Ok, I'm back | 13:44 |
| jelkner | i'm talking with victor, amanuel, and edzon about skillsusa | 13:45 |
| mr_german | jelkner, can we have a meeting tomorrow? | 13:48 |
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| jelkner | mr_german, elizabeth looked at the document and made the changes she wanted | 13:53 |
| jelkner | so she approves of everything that is there now | 13:54 |
| jelkner | i just emailed daniela | 13:54 |
| jelkner | we really need a graphics designer | 13:54 |
| jelkner | i hope she can do that for us | 13:54 |
| jelkner | if not, we will need to find someone else | 13:54 |
| jelkner | oh, btw, let me introduce you to zOnny | 13:54 |
| jelkner | aka Edzon | 13:54 |
| jelkner | z0nny, say hi to mr_german | 13:55 |
| mr_german | Hello, zOnny | 13:56 |
| zOnny | hi | 13:56 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I have a question about the document | 13:57 |
| jelkner | shoot, mr_german | 13:57 |
| mr_german | What I have to do with those paragraphs | 13:57 |
| jelkner | z0nny, we need to get a picture of you and a bio for our website | 13:58 |
| jelkner | mr_german maintains that | 13:58 |
| jelkner | http://novawebdevelopment.com/memberlist | 13:58 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Do I have to add them to "endorsement page"? | 13:58 |
| jelkner | add "them"? | 13:58 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 13:59 |
| mr_german | there are two paragraphs there | 13:59 |
| jelkner | Elizabeth wrote those | 14:00 |
| jelkner | i didn't | 14:00 |
| jelkner | let's figure out where they should go | 14:00 |
| jelkner | give me a minute | 14:00 |
| mr_german | Yeah, but I have to add them? | 14:00 |
| mr_german | ok, jelkner | 14:00 |
| jelkner | She put them there because she wants them added. | 14:01 |
| jelkner | We just need to figure out where. | 14:01 |
| jelkner | i'm looking | 14:01 |
| mr_german | Ok, jelkner | 14:01 |
| jelkner | mr_german, where is the development version of elizabeth's website? | 14:11 |
| jelkner | we should get you, z0nny, and me working on it together | 14:11 |
| jelkner | if we focus our energy next week, we can finish | 14:11 |
| mr_german | jelkner, here's : http://gorito.novawebdev.webfactional.com/ | 14:12 |
| jelkner | then we can talk about doing kenny's website (if he is interested) | 14:12 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I've done every change that you said, except for "the header" and "endorsements page" | 14:16 |
| jelkner | great! | 14:18 |
| jelkner | the banner is not your problem | 14:18 |
| jelkner | i'm working on that | 14:18 |
| jelkner | we *really* need a graphics person | 14:18 |
| jelkner | web design is an interdisciplinary field | 14:19 |
| jelkner | lots and lots of fun things to learn! ;-) | 14:20 |
| jelkner | mr_german, there are others things that need doing | 14:23 |
| jelkner | this is the chance for us to get the workflow down | 14:23 |
| jelkner | next week, you, z0nny, and me can work together on this | 14:24 |
| jelkner | one request in the document is: Section titles of "Our Plan" page would look better left justified instead of centered, with paragraphs indented a bit. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | there is a problem with this whole process, however. | 14:24 |
| jelkner | we said earlier that, "unless there is an issue filed, there is no work to be done." | 14:25 |
| jelkner | so i am violating that rule now | 14:25 |
| * jelkner needs to file issues! | 14:25 | |
| * replaceafill was about to remind you that jelkner :) | 14:26 | |
| jelkner | i'm getting a bit overwhelmed, replaceafill :-( | 14:27 |
| jelkner | i just got an email from Lee Carter's campaign manager | 14:27 |
| jelkner | Lee needs his website working ASAP | 14:27 |
| jelkner | i think i should ask Rena_ if mr_german and me can take this over for now | 14:28 |
| replaceafill | what's holding it? | 14:28 |
| jelkner | Rena_ has class | 14:28 |
| jelkner | she is a full time student | 14:28 |
| jelkner | that's why we need to build this business around mr_german first | 14:28 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 14:28 |
| replaceafill | yeah, you should ask her | 14:28 |
| jelkner | we need the full time professional working full time | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i will call her at 3:10 pm | 14:28 |
| jelkner | and then we can give out smaller, time limited tasks to others so when they have time | 14:29 |
| jelkner | they can help | 14:29 |
| jelkner | until we have enough business for two full time professionals, etc. | 14:29 |
| jelkner | managing this will be what makes us or breaks us | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | indeed | 14:30 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, mr_german, we need you working full time over the next period of time | 14:31 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, let's do that | 14:31 |
| jelkner | we have zoom, let me know when we need to recharge the batteries | 14:31 |
| mr_german | Ok, jelkner | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, will do | 14:32 |
| jelkner | super | 14:32 |
| jelkner | now, i want to check out the git repo for elizabeth's website | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, full time means working ~8h a day, pushing to get things done as soon as possible | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | (just for the record) | 14:33 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I haven't updated the repository yet | 14:35 |
| mr_german | jelkner, give me a sec | 14:35 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Done! | 14:36 |
| jelkner | it is on our bitbucket account, right? | 14:37 |
| mr_german | Yes jelkner | 14:37 |
| mr_german | I have to go, but I'll back soon, jelkner | 14:39 |
| * mr_german needs to get his lunch | 14:39 | |
| * jelkner thinks to himself, mr_german must be eating *a lot*! ;-) | 16:18 | |
| jelkner | replaceafill, do you have a minute? | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | i'm helping Camila with her homework but i can chat | 16:19 |
| jelkner | no, help Camila first | 16:19 |
| jelkner | let's chat a bit later | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | 20-30 mins? | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | i'll ping you when i'm done | 16:20 |
| jelkner | great | 16:20 |
| jelkner | i'll be here | 16:20 |
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| mr_german | Hello! | 16:27 |
| jelkner | Hello, mr_german! | 16:28 |
| jelkner | let's get down to business | 16:28 |
| jelkner | i have a git repository on my workstation called pwpc | 16:28 |
| jelkner | https://bitbucket.org/novawebdevelopment/pwpc | 16:29 |
| jelkner | it is from that url | 16:29 |
| jelkner | i just did a git pull, and Rena_'s latest changes are in it. | 16:29 |
| jelkner | She says it is ready for deployment. | 16:29 |
| jelkner | how do we test that, and then if we can confirm that, do the deployment? | 16:30 |
| jelkner | I see the Makefile | 16:31 |
| jelkner | but i'm not sure how to use it. | 16:31 |
| mr_german | jelkner, give me a sec | 16:31 |
| jelkner | sure | 16:31 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Did they change the ssh password? | 16:33 |
| jelkner | I don't think so. | 16:33 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: we need you! | 16:33 |
| mr_german | I can't access to the ssh | 16:35 |
| mjsir911 | hello! | 16:37 |
| mjsir911 | What's up? | 16:37 |
| mjsir911 | whats the link? | 16:37 |
| mr_german | I'm trying to ssh to the lee's webfactional mjsir911 | 16:38 |
| mr_german | but I can't | 16:39 |
| mjsir911 | lee | 16:39 |
| mjsir911 | do you know the link? | 16:39 |
| mr_german | I think everything is here | 16:39 |
| mr_german | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYP6VUTaop8POvExZvcWJr67vjcrtzJmnaLpaSfr8mI/edit# | 16:39 |
| mjsir911 | are you getting an error or just password incorrect? | 16:40 |
| jelkner | it should be, mjsir911 and mr_german | 16:40 |
| jelkner | please add it if it isn't | 16:40 |
| mr_german | I think the password is the wrong one mjsir911 | 16:40 |
| mjsir911 | btw that document is readable by the outside world, can someone make that readable only to novawebdev ASAP | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mjsir911, mr_german oh my | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | who's creating these files?!?! | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | this file is public guys | 16:41 |
| mjsir911 | yup | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | we should create this kind of files in a protected directory | 16:42 |
| mjsir911 | or not make them publicly accessible at all | 16:42 |
| jelkner | ouch! | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | and we should review the rest | 16:43 |
| mjsir911 | definitely | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | (files with credentials) | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm back btw | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:43 |
| jelkner | it's not public anymore, but as we discussed at our meeting, we shouldn't be posting urls here | 16:43 |
| jelkner | since our logs are public | 16:44 |
| mjsir911 | the password seems to have been changed | 16:44 |
| jelkner | this is a learning process | 16:44 |
| jelkner | we are aiming for maximum transparency in our process | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i don't mind putting links to private things | 16:44 |
| mjsir911 | jelkner we shouldn't leave it up to obscurity to make sure people cant access our google docs, just dont make them public | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, +1 | 16:44 |
| jelkner | fair enough, replaceafill | 16:45 |
| mjsir911 | btw the password seems to have just changed | 16:45 |
| jelkner | how? | 16:45 |
| jelkner | i didn't change it | 16:46 |
| mjsir911 | Did the owner of the account change it? | 16:46 |
| jelkner | The owner of the repo is the NOVA Web Development team | 16:47 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist set this up, i believe | 16:48 |
| mjsir911 | the owner of the webfactional | 16:48 |
| jelkner | ahh | 16:48 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Lee's site is using Django right? | 16:52 |
| mr_german | jelkner, nvm, I just saw the repo | 16:53 |
| jelkner | ok, yes | 16:53 |
| jelkner | mr_german, amanuel just brought us pizza, so we are all eating | 17:00 |
| mr_german | jelkner, np man , I'm working on Elizabeth's site right now | 17:01 |
| mr_german | jelkner, bon appetite ;-) | 17:02 |
| jelkner | can you look at lee's first? | 17:02 |
| jelkner | they have an event tomorrow | 17:02 |
| jelkner | and we need to get that deployed this evening | 17:02 |
| mr_german | Did you get the new password? | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what password do you need? | 17:10 |
| mr_german | for lee's webfactional ssh | 17:12 |
| mr_german | jelkner, | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | that's not in the shared document? | 17:12 |
| mr_german | the current password just works for webfactional account | 17:13 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, but it doesn't work for ssh | 17:13 |
| jelkner | you mean the web interface? | 17:15 |
| mr_german | jelkner, the ssh | 17:15 |
| jelkner | can't you set the ssh password from there? | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you can change the ssh password from the webfaction web | 17:15 |
| jelkner | what do you mean "it just works for the webfactional account"? | 17:15 |
| mr_german | jelkner, let me try | 17:15 |
| jelkner | What works? | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | but that'll break Rena's access | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | if she's doing something there | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | so if you keep going, please notify her of the change | 17:16 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I don't like to touch these kind of things | 17:16 |
| jelkner | Rena_ emailed us and said she had pushed her final changes | 17:16 |
| jelkner | it's now up to us to deploy in the development instance | 17:16 |
| jelkner | call the campaign manager and let him look at it | 17:16 |
| jelkner | then deploy to production | 17:16 |
| jelkner | i have the campaign manager's cell phone | 17:17 |
| jelkner | he will answer | 17:17 |
| jelkner | this is a campaign | 17:17 |
| jelkner | they are always available | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | i thought it was the opposite ;) | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | anyway... | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, do you know how to change the ssh passwd from webfaction? | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | i can help if you don't | 17:18 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes! | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | change it to match the document | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and this document should be improved | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | to use the same format you have for others, like aea | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | (but that's a future task) | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, let us know when you can ssh into it | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you wanted to discuss something? | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | i need to go back to "work"... | 17:19 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I changed it for the current password on the document | 17:19 |
| * replaceafill is fighting limited disk space :( | 17:19 | |
| jelkner | drats | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so you can ssh into it now? | 17:20 |
| jelkner | we have sooo much disk space here | 17:20 |
| mr_german | jelkner, yes , I can access to ssh ;-) | 17:20 |
| jelkner | to bad we can't share some with replaceafill | 17:20 |
| * replaceafill wonders why mr_german keeps saying jelkner each time | 17:20 | |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:20 |
| jelkner | excellent, mr_german | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so you can continue now? | 17:20 |
| jelkner | ok, next step, deploy Rena_'s changes to a development instance | 17:21 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes! | 17:21 |
| mr_german | this is the development version : http://django.leecarter4va.webfactional.com/ | 17:21 |
| mr_german | jelkner, | 17:22 |
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| * replaceafill goes to work, ping me if you need me | 17:25 | |
| jelkner | got it, replaceafill | 17:26 |
| jelkner | mjsir911 is looking into git LFS | 17:26 |
| mr_german | jelkner, Ok, Lee's site ready with latest changes that rena made | 17:45 |
| mr_german | jelkner, here's the link | 17:45 |
| mr_german | http://leecarter4va.webfactional.com/ | 17:45 |
| jelkner | great. | 17:50 |
| jelkner | let me call the campaign manger, and ask him to look it over | 17:50 |
| mr_german | Ok!, jelkner | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mr_german some sections are broken | 17:51 |
| jelkner | it has one of the same problems as elizabeth's site - no home link | 17:51 |
| jelkner | really? | 17:51 |
| jelkner | which ones | 17:51 |
| jelkner | ? | 17:51 |
| jelkner | we need to fix them | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | ah never mind | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | just refreshed | 17:51 |
| jelkner | you're scaring me, replacefill | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | browser cache probably | 17:51 |
| jelkner | one little heart attack and its all over ;-) | 17:52 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ctrl + shitf + r ;-) | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | yep | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | just did and everything looks normal | 17:52 |
| mr_german | jelkner, If you want to go to the home page click the logo | 17:53 |
| jelkner | cool, thanks! | 17:55 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I can add the "home page" button if you want? | 17:56 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i've asked mjsir911 to look into git LFS | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 17:57 |
| jelkner | specifically, i asked him to create a branch of celina benitez's website | 17:57 |
| jelkner | which i had to make public to do that | 17:57 |
| jelkner | (not a proble) | 17:57 |
| jelkner | and to convert it | 17:57 |
| jelkner | he can run what he is doing by mattva01 tonight | 17:57 |
| jelkner | and we can start using this next week | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | great | 17:58 |
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| jelkner | replaceafill, still here? | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sort of :) | 19:07 |
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| jelkner | mr_german, i just got off the phone with dylan | 19:17 |
| jelkner | they need the banner image changed on lee's site before they can deploy it. | 19:18 |
| mr_german | jelkner, you should talk with Daniela | 19:18 |
| jelkner | dylan is about to send us the new banner image. | 19:18 |
| jelkner | shoot, i asked dylan to send to the mailing list, but he can't do that | 19:33 |
| jelkner | since he is not part of the group | 19:33 |
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| jelkner | replaceafill, should we change the permissions on our mailing list to allow other folks to mail to it? | 21:00 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, Bye! | 21:07 |
| mr_german | ubuntourist, Bye! | 21:07 |
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