IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2017-06-05

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jelknerGood morning, z0nny and aantonio!08:59
jelkneraantonio, i tried to call you, since i wanted to hear more about how things went at the credit union.09:00
jelknerwhen is a good time to call?09:00
aantoniobreak time or tomorrow sir09:01
jelknerwell, sir, when is break time?09:02
jelkneri guess i can wait until you come in tomorrow.09:02
aantonio11:5009:02
jelknerahh, that is during class, so yes, tomorrow will be best.09:02
aantoniothat would be better.09:02
jelknergreat. talk to you then.09:03
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mr_germanHi jelkner !11:45
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jelknermr_german, how are you?13:41
jelknerDid you see the issues i filed on aea?13:42
mr_germanIm good, jelkner 13:42
mr_germanyes!13:42
mr_germanI'm working on that13:42
jelknerreplaceafill, how are you?13:57
replaceafillhey jelkner13:58
jelknerhttps://heliosvoting.org/ didn't come up in the searches i did back in september13:59
jelknermakes me glad we dragged our feet getting started13:59
jelknersometimes, procrastination pays off! ;-)13:59
jelknerclearly, that is the way we should go, yes?13:59
jelknerit's Django, and they are working on version 1.6, so Python 314:00
jelknerit will integrate well with our focus, and who knows, perhaps we can even contribute?14:00
jelknerwhat do you think, replaceafill?14:00
replaceafilljelkner, if you mean, we should go "procrastination" +114:01
replaceafill:D14:01
replaceafillkidding aside, yes, i just replied in the ML14:01
replaceafillwe should stop the eVote exploration14:02
replaceafillare you ok with that mr_german?14:02
jelkneryes, indeed14:02
jelknerand start helios exploration14:02
jelknermy dream is to offer on-line voting as a service to our customers14:03
jelknerwe all had serious reservations about evote, especially it being on a platform difficult for us to hack on, and being stuck in Python 2.14:04
jelknerhelios is right up our ally14:04
jelknerand is actively being developed14:04
replaceafilland used14:04
mr_germanyes, jelkner 14:05
jelkneryes, replaceafill, used is the *big* thing, since we want to support it ;-)14:05
jelknerso are you catching all this, mr_german?14:05
replaceafillmr_german, this is the new target: https://github.com/benadida/helios-server14:05
replaceafillmr_german, installation instructions: http://documentation.heliosvoting.org/install14:06
replaceafilljelkner, out of curiosity, any reason to recommend hover.com to Tim?14:09
mr_germanreplaceafill, Helios is using django14:09
mr_germanright?14:10
mr_germannvm14:10
replaceafillmr_german, correct14:10
replaceafillmr_german, i'm glad you won't need to hack on web2py anymore14:11
mr_germanlol14:11
replaceafillmr_german, since your new PC should be able to handle it14:12
replaceafillyou should start using virtualbox for testing this kind of thing14:12
replaceafilli mean, separate VMs14:12
mr_germanyep14:12
replaceafillso you can save snapshots of things14:12
replaceafilland revert back if something goes horribly wrong14:13
jelknerLoL, our CTO doesn't know who he is!14:18
jelknermr_german, i would like you and z0nny to work together on helios14:25
jelknercan you do that?14:25
mr_germanfor sure!14:26
mr_germanjelkner, 14:26
jelknerhe has 10 hours per week to do that14:26
jelknerso you all can plan accordingly14:26
zOnnymr_german we need to talk about helios.14:28
mr_germanzOnny, ok14:28
zOnnymr_german you know more how it works, right?14:30
mr_germannope, zOnny 14:31
mr_germanfirst time14:31
jelknerz0nny, he doesn't yet, but his uncle, our CTO, can certainly help him! ;-)14:31
jelknerbtw, here is the link for you to read: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_libre14:31
zOnnyOk! 14:32
jelknerlike i just mentioned to you, z0nny, this is a *big* project and will involve a lot of learning14:32
jelknermjsir911 can configure it, but you two are responsible for getting him to do that14:33
jelknerthen ya'll need to learn how to use it and how to style it14:34
replaceafilljelkner, i'd recommend mr_german and zOnny to set up their own dev instances14:34
jelknergreat idea14:34
jelknermjsir911 can help z0nny, and you can help mr_german14:35
zOnnyI got it! :)14:35
replaceafillmr_german, are you around?14:36
mr_germanyes?14:37
replaceafillwhat's your top priority for today?14:37
zOnnysounds like deep learning to me.14:37
mr_germanaea14:38
mr_germanissues14:38
replaceafillmr_german, cool14:38
replaceafillping me when you start working on helios14:38
replaceafilland when you have it running14:39
mr_germanalmost done it. btw14:39
mr_germanok14:39
replaceafilldone it what?14:39
replaceafillaea issues?14:39
mr_germanyep14:41
replaceafillcool14:41
mr_germanjelkner, I just responded your Issues14:42
mr_germanjelkner, at the moment the changes are here "DEV-AEA": http://dev.aeava.org/14:43
jelknerDo you have this month's PDF for the action report?14:45
jelknerI can send it if you don't.14:45
jelknerWe need it in 2 places: in your new page and on the front page.14:45
mr_germanno I don't have them14:46
mr_germanjelkner, In the homepage where should I put the pdf?14:52
jelknerit should go in two places, under the new page you setup with June, 2017 as the link14:52
jelknerand on the homepage.14:53
jelknerClick here to download this month's action report.14:53
jelknerwith "here" being a link14:53
jelknerwe can leave it like that unless Ingrid tells us something different14:53
jelknerbut make it like that for now14:53
jelknerand let's get it live by today's end14:54
jelknerThanks!14:54
mr_germanOk!14:54
mr_germanjelkner, done15:08
mr_germanreplaceafill, Give me 25 mins15:08
mr_germanbrb15:08
replaceafillmr_german, take your time15:08
jelknerreplaceafill, i have a meeting to go to (i need ride my bike)15:13
jelknerand another when i get home15:13
replaceafilljelkner, cool, see you later15:13
jelknercan you please work with mr_german to see that the aea website is updated?15:13
replaceafillso it lands in productions before you check it?15:14
replaceafillproduction*15:14
jelkneronce he deploys to testing, take a quick look and then let him deploy to production15:14
replaceafillcool15:14
jelkneryou can check it15:14
replaceafillsure15:14
jelknerthanks!15:14
jelknerhasta tomorrow!15:14
replaceafilllater mr elkner15:14
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replaceafillmr_german, check the irclogs16:15
replaceafillbrb16:15
mr_germanI already did16:16
mr_germandid you check dev-aea?16:16
replaceafillmr_german, back16:50
mr_german:)16:50
replaceafillmr_german, what's the reason to display file sizes there?16:50
replaceafilldid they ask for that?16:50
mr_germanThe old version used to have them16:51
replaceafillthey look bad/weird/nosiy in my opinion16:51
mr_germanmmm16:51
replaceafillbut leave them for now16:51
replaceafillaccording to the log, jelkner asked for "Here" to be the link16:51
replaceafillthis page seems riddled with usability problems16:52
replaceafillmr_german, check: http://dev.aeava.org/action-report16:54
replaceafilland tell me what that page is about...16:54
replaceafillsuppose i just landed there, on mobile...16:54
replaceafillmr_german, get my point?16:56
mr_germanyes16:57
replaceafillfor the homepage i'd use a header like the one you have in production for16:58
replaceafillDont Forget to Vote16:58
replaceafillAction Report16:58
replaceafilland then the text that you already have "Click here ..."16:58
mr_germanreplaceafill, I'm working on that17:01
replaceafillmr_german, cool, ping me when you're done17:02
replaceafillhow responsive are the AEA people?17:02
replaceafilldo they respond quickly/instantly?17:02
replaceafillwe should probably run these changes by them, but it's 5 pm for them already17:02
mr_germanI'm not so sure17:03
replaceafilland jelkner wanted them in production17:03
mr_germanok17:03
replaceafillanyway finish them first17:03
mr_germanok17:03
mr_germanreplaceafill, done17:05
mr_germanreplaceafill, can you check please?17:05
replaceafillchecking...17:06
replaceafillmr_german, since you added a title to the /action-report page17:07
replaceafilli think you can remove the "Month's Action report list" line17:07
replaceafilljust title + month link is enough17:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok17:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, done17:09
replaceafillthat's fine, in my opinion the home page should also say July 2017 but jelkner requested differently17:10
replaceafilli think you should put this in production now17:10
replaceafilland email the AEA people + jelkner17:10
mr_germanok replaceafill 17:10
mr_germanreplaceafill, done http://aeava.org/17:11
replaceafilland remember... on June 30th the AEA page gets broken ;)17:11
replaceafillso mark your calendar :P17:11
mr_germanwhy?17:12
replaceafillwhy mr_german?17:12
replaceafill.17:12
replaceafill..17:12
replaceafill...17:12
replaceafill:)17:12
mr_german:D?17:12
mr_german"on June 30th the AEA page gets broken"?17:12
replaceafillyes17:12
replaceafillwhy?17:12
replaceafillsee your new changes17:12
mr_germanOhhh17:13
replaceafillahem, why?17:13
mr_germanThe end of the year for aea17:13
mr_german:(17:13
replaceafillwhen we get to july17:13
replaceafillthe "this month" part doesn't apply anymore17:14
mr_germanso..17:14
replaceafilldon't worry17:14
mr_germanI have to remove it then17:14
replaceafillnot now17:15
replaceafillshow it like this17:15
mr_germanyea I know17:15
mr_germanok17:15
mr_germanbrb I need to send an email17:15
replaceafillkk17:15
replaceafillthanks!17:15
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* mr_german has sent the email to AEA people and Jeff!17:20
replaceafillmr_german, cool, good work17:21
mr_germanthanks.17:21
replaceafillmr_german, after you finish the most urgent issues17:22
replaceafillmove the new voting system17:22
replaceafillmove to*17:22
replaceafilland this time try to stick to a plan17:22
replaceafillof sending test elections regularly17:23
mr_germanok17:25
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