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jelkner | Good morning, dabmancer! | 08:42 |
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jelkner | Will you be coming to the PTO this Thursday? | 08:43 |
dabmancer | Yes. | 08:46 |
jelkner | Great. I look forward to talking to you there. | 08:53 |
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jelkner | I just emailed you back, z0nny | 09:56 |
jelkner | please take care of Rick | 09:56 |
jelkner | i can email you his phone number and you could give him a call | 09:57 |
jelkner | i didn't think of that when i emailed you, but that would solve everything | 09:57 |
jelkner | ask him if he likes what you've done, tell him how many hours he will be billed for it, and ask him what he wants you to do next | 09:58 |
jelkner | Can you do that? | 09:58 |
zOnny | Ok jelkner | 10:01 |
jelkner | Let me call him first. | 10:01 |
jelkner | And ask if it is OK to give you his number. | 10:02 |
zOnny | Ok. | 10:04 |
jelkner | Just talked to Rick | 10:06 |
jelkner | I will call him again at 4:30 pm when he returns from the doctor. | 10:07 |
jelkner | So we are fine for now, z0nny | 10:07 |
jelkner | You will be in Thursday morning, yes? | 10:07 |
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jelkner | Tomorrow is the field trip | 10:07 |
jelkner | so we aren't here | 10:07 |
zOnny | course! | 10:07 |
jelkner | cool | 10:07 |
jelkner | c u thursday morning | 10:07 |
zOnny | see u Thursday Jeff. | 10:14 |
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replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 10:23 |
jelkner | good morning replaceafill | 10:25 |
jelkner | can we meet at 12 noon my time? | 10:25 |
jelkner | i need to finish this edX course i'm taking this morning | 10:25 |
jelkner | 12 noon is lunch time for the PRIME interns | 10:25 |
jelkner | so it will be a good time for me to do a hangout | 10:26 |
replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 10:26 |
replaceafill | jelkner, see you then | 10:26 |
jelkner | great! | 10:26 |
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ubuntourist | jelkner, are we meeting either tomorrow and/or Sunday? | 12:03 |
jelkner | not tomorrow | 12:03 |
jelkner | i am taking the PRIMEs on a field trip | 12:03 |
jelkner | but sunday i can | 12:03 |
jelkner | and would like to | 12:04 |
jelkner | should we say 10 ? | 12:04 |
jelkner | or can i drag you in at 9? ;-) | 12:04 |
jelkner | replaceafill | 12:04 |
jelkner | just put on my headset | 12:04 |
ubuntourist | Can we split the differnce and say 9:30? ;-) | 12:05 |
jelkner | done! | 12:05 |
replaceafill | jelkner, ready | 12:05 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, As luck would have it, at 4:30 Sunday, Capital Fringe Festival has scheduled a new rock opera... to be performed at Gallaudet (with audible music). | 12:06 |
jelkner | then why aren't you answering? | 12:06 |
jelkner | perfect, i need to leave at that time | 12:07 |
jelkner | replaceafill, do you know when mr_german will appear today? | 13:05 |
replaceafill | jelkner, not really | 13:06 |
replaceafill | jelkner, i can call him if you want | 13:06 |
jelkner | i have two prime interns ready to work with him on helios | 13:06 |
jelkner | yes, please | 13:06 |
replaceafill | jelkner, no answer | 13:09 |
replaceafill | jelkner, you should tell mr_german explicitly at what time you need him online (if you haven't) | 13:09 |
replaceafill | jelkner, i'll talk to him about it too | 13:10 |
jelkner | i understand, replaceafill, but in this case, i asked him to work with ericsaenz on helios | 13:10 |
jelkner | it is up to them to arrange the time | 13:10 |
jelkner | we have a real good opportunity with ericsaenz here | 13:11 |
replaceafill | jelkner, i think we should come up with a specific plan | 13:12 |
jelkner | eric is doing that | 13:12 |
replaceafill | jelkner, instead of just asking them "work on helios" | 13:12 |
jelkner | he likes to write! | 13:12 |
replaceafill | jelkner, nice :) | 13:12 |
jelkner | check this out: http://ericsaenzprime.blogspot.com/ | 13:12 |
jelkner | so ericsaenz is willing to start documenting how to use helios | 13:12 |
jelkner | i told him i would like him and mr_german (using the 6 of us here + mr_german as testers) to run and document a series of election experiments | 13:13 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, you have admin privileges to helios, correct? | 13:14 |
ericsaenz | yes replaceafill | 13:14 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, do you need anything else to start the "election experiments" | 13:15 |
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replaceafill | jelkner, if you check http://helios.novawebdevelopment.com/ and try any election you'll see mr_german css work on helios | 13:16 |
replaceafill | jelkner, maybe you won't notice if you haven't seen the "bare bones" version :) | 13:16 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, nice work on the google doc | 13:18 |
ericsaenz | replaceafill, i don't think so, but German knows a lot more about Helios than i do so he would be a huge help | 13:18 |
ericsaenz | replaceafill, thanks | 13:18 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, sure i understand | 13:18 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, anything specific you want to know, i don't know as much helios as mr_german but it's worth the shot :) | 13:19 |
ericsaenz | replaceafill, do you know what the difference between absolute/relative result type is? | 13:20 |
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replaceafill | ericsaenz, not exactly, but i found this when i had the same question: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/helios-voting/wHeN2mnyxig/CXhEhD31qb0J | 13:23 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, and that takes you to this (which you may have seen already): http://documentation.heliosvoting.org/verification-specs/helios-v3-verification-specs | 13:24 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, this is exactly what i had in mind about that (from the same email thread): "You mean whether I need 50% of the votes or 15 votes to win? Maybe I | 13:25 |
replaceafill | should complete my mock election and it will become clearer... " | 13:25 |
replaceafill | :) | 13:25 |
ericsaenz | thanks replaceafill | 13:26 |
jelkner | replaceafill, the one thing we didn't talk about was glenda's email | 13:43 |
jelkner | who knows, now that we're becoming php developers, perhaps we can help Cory with his idea ;-) | 13:43 |
jelkner | i'll take care of this | 13:43 |
jelkner | basically, i'll tell her not much we can do (pun intended ;-) about this now | 13:44 |
replaceafill | jelkner, right | 13:46 |
jelkner | email sent | 13:53 |
jelkner | look ok, replaceafill? | 14:02 |
replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 14:02 |
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mr_german | hello jelkner | 14:21 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, he is on the phone right now | 14:21 |
mr_german | oh ok | 14:23 |
jelkner | mr_german and ericsaenz, you two need to talk to each other, not to me | 14:41 |
mr_german | oh oka | 14:41 |
mr_german | what do you need ericsaenz ? | 14:41 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, do you have any idea why "user" shows up instead of a google name in public elections? | 14:43 |
mr_german | oh you should ask that to replaceafill | 14:44 |
replaceafill | i'm about to leave | 14:44 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, that's something i had to hack | 14:44 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, that's supposed to be your gmail display name | 14:45 |
replaceafill | ericsaenz, but for some reason it's not working in the server | 14:45 |
ericsaenz | i see | 14:45 |
replaceafill | ACTION goes to pick his daughter, bb in ~1h | 14:46 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, anything else ? | 14:47 |
mr_german | questions? | 14:47 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, is there any reason why there's an error every time an election is created? | 14:51 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, even though I can still access the election just not directly from the 'create an election' page | 14:51 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, good question | 14:52 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, adding Helios as a trustee is broken as well | 14:53 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, I haven't seen that problem | 14:54 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, we should talk with replaceafill about those problems | 14:56 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, ok | 14:57 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, by the way, i'm working on documenting how to use Helios | 14:57 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, oh good | 14:57 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, here is the link if you're interested https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hiGP8tRGXHVu6DmnlfVKjIGxE-cPzGOuG3FhQrVj7fQ/edit | 14:57 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, this is great!! | 14:58 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, thanks | 14:59 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, actually you have everything here | 15:04 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, I don't know what you need from me :D? | 15:04 |
mr_german | if you have everything | 15:05 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, i was mostly stuck on errors | 15:06 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, which i will talk to replaceafill about | 15:06 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, yeah.. | 15:07 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, good job! | 15:07 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, thanks | 15:07 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, r u here? | 15:08 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, Ja. | 15:08 |
jelkner | replaceafill was asking me about our relationship with the CiviCRM support company in DC. | 15:09 |
jelkner | Which i believe sanjay is connected with, yes? | 15:09 |
ubuntourist | Sanjay. | 15:09 |
jelkner | ?? | 15:09 |
jelkner | i'm confused | 15:10 |
jelkner | (story of my life) | 15:10 |
ubuntourist | Sanjay is my connection. We became friends when he sent out mail proposing an Ubuntu computer clinic at the Cleveland Park Library and I joined him in supporting it. | 15:10 |
jelkner | Yes, that's what i said | 15:11 |
jelkner | sanjay | 15:11 |
ubuntourist | He later began working for Andrew Hunt of AGH -- the CiviCRM support company. | 15:11 |
jelkner | so when you repeated his name, i was confused | 15:11 |
jelkner | so, replaceafill is saying we need to reach out to them now | 15:11 |
jelkner | that we are getting into the same business | 15:11 |
jelkner | i told him i would talk to you about it on sunday | 15:12 |
jelkner | but i thought i'd bring it up now | 15:12 |
ubuntourist | (I was responding to your first statement, thinking I'd get a word in before your second, where you mentioned sanjay.) | 15:12 |
jelkner | ok | 15:12 |
jelkner | got it | 15:13 |
jelkner | so i'm not confused, how nice! ;-) | 15:13 |
jelkner | we should try to grab a bite with him again | 15:13 |
jelkner | like we did before | 15:13 |
jelkner | last time i told him we weren't ready to join them | 15:14 |
ubuntourist | I've met Andrew twice, and he might recognize me, but we haven't spoken much. That said, he seems reasonably passionate about open source, non-profits, and good causes. | 15:14 |
jelkner | now we can say "we are in!" | 15:14 |
jelkner | anyway, please keep it on your radar to arrange something when the opportunity arises | 15:14 |
ubuntourist | OK, I'll reach out. Would you be willing to come in for a dinner? (I doubt that weekends are available, and I assume you're NOT free for lunches in the city.) | 15:15 |
mr_german | jelkner, Should I close the election that I sent a few days ago? | 15:15 |
mr_german | to see how many votes we got | 15:16 |
jelkner | sure | 15:16 |
jelkner | i voted | 15:16 |
mr_german | oka | 15:16 |
jelkner | don't know who else did | 15:16 |
jelkner | that's why we should take advantage of the 6 of us here | 15:16 |
jelkner | while we have the opportunity | 15:16 |
jelkner | we can get all 6 of us to vote on thursday at the same time | 15:17 |
jelkner | and run experiments quickly | 15:17 |
replaceafill | ACTION is back | 15:37 |
replaceafill | mr_german, i can have a look at errors tomorrow | 15:37 |
mr_german | replaceafill, oka | 15:37 |
replaceafill | mr_german, but i'll need to know what to look at specifically | 15:37 |
replaceafill | mr_german, so create a list of things that produce errors | 15:38 |
replaceafill | mr_german, and steps to reproduce | 15:38 |
replaceafill | mr_german, ok? | 15:38 |
replaceafill | mr_german, in case you're not around to ask you... | 15:38 |
mr_german | ok! | 15:38 |
replaceafill | mr_german, and please include the "User" issue | 15:39 |
replaceafill | mr_german, so i don't forget about it | 15:39 |
mr_german | replaceafill, noted | 15:39 |
replaceafill | mr_german, btw, the css work looks nice | 15:39 |
replaceafill | mr_german, please create a fork of helios in the nova organization in github | 15:40 |
replaceafill | mr_german, and push your changes to a branch there | 15:40 |
replaceafill | mr_german, ok? | 15:40 |
replaceafill | mr_german, i don't want to get lost | 15:40 |
mr_german | replaceafill, do we have a repository for helios? | 15:41 |
replaceafill | mr_german, no, fork it | 15:41 |
replaceafill | mr_german, using the novawebdevelopment organization | 15:41 |
replaceafill | mr_german, not your account | 15:41 |
mr_german | ACTION is confused | 15:41 |
mr_german | replaceafill, I am a little bit confused.. | 15:43 |
replaceafill | mr_german, you already said that... | 15:44 |
replaceafill | mr_german, knowing why you are confused would help... | 15:44 |
mr_german | " please create a fork of helios in the nova organization in github" | 15:44 |
replaceafill | mr_german, go to the helios repo... | 15:45 |
replaceafill | mr_german, click the fork button at the top right... | 15:45 |
replaceafill | mr_german, when asked under which account create the fork, reply novawebdevelopment... | 15:45 |
replaceafill | mr_german, ... | 15:45 |
replaceafill | mr_german, still confused? | 15:46 |
mr_german | I cant replaceafill it says "You don’t have permission to fork to these organizations:" | 15:46 |
mr_german | I do not have permission to do that | 15:46 |
replaceafill | mr_german, ok... fork it to your account then | 15:47 |
mr_german | k | 15:47 |
replaceafill | mr_german, you're probably not admin in the novawebdev org | 15:47 |
mr_german | done. | 15:47 |
replaceafill | mr_german, but we can take care of that later | 15:47 |
replaceafill | mr_german, the important part here is that your changes should be stored in a branch | 15:47 |
mr_german | Ok I'll push my changes. | 15:47 |
replaceafill | mr_german, thanks | 15:48 |
jelkner | ericsaenz and mr_german, can you two please arrange a schedule for thursday? | 15:52 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, when would you say would be a good time to have an election going on thursday? | 15:55 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, 12:30 works for you? | 15:56 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, your time or my time? | 15:56 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, mm your time. | 15:57 |
ericsaenz | i will be at lunch at 12:30, how about at 1:00 or 1:30? mr_german | 15:59 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, your time? | 16:00 |
mr_german | 1:30 works for me | 16:00 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, okay | 16:01 |
mr_german | replaceafill, you main email is douglascerna@yahoo.com right? | 16:15 |
mr_german | your* | 16:15 |
replaceafill | mr_german, yes | 16:15 |
mr_german | replaceafill, thx | 16:15 |
mr_german | ericsaenz, can you give me your email again please | 16:23 |
ericsaenz | mr_german, ecsnz3@gmail.com | 16:28 |
mr_german | thx | 16:29 |
mr_german | ACTION goes out for 20 mins | 16:55 |
jelkner | ACTION heads home. c u @ 7pm | 17:10 |
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mr_german | ACTION is back | 17:55 |
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mr_german | welcome back jelkner | 18:47 |
mr_german | ;) | 18:47 |
louisea | !remind <Discuss progress on developing business providing support for CiviCRM and looking for clients to promote CiviCRM to> | 18:51 |
louisea | !remind<Discuss progress on developing business providing support for CiviCRM and looking for clients to promote CiviCRM to> | 18:52 |
jelkner | louisea, the <..> aren't needed | 18:52 |
louisea | well, as soon as anyone who can help me with this remindbot thing is here | 18:52 |
louisea | okay! thanks jelkner | 18:52 |
jelkner | it is just !remind | 18:53 |
jelkner | followed by the message you want | 18:53 |
louisea | and when I type it in how does it know when to show itself? | 18:53 |
jelkner | !remind Show louisea how to use remind bot ;-) | 18:53 |
louisea | !remind<Discuss progress on developing business providing support for CiviCRM and looking for clients to promote CiviCRM to | 18:53 |
louisea | !remind Discuss progress on developing business providing support for CiviCRM and looking for clients to promote CiviCRM to | 18:53 |
louisea | !remind and no space? | 18:53 |
jelkner | yes, space | 18:54 |
jelkner | no brackets | 18:54 |
louisea | then the second to last one should have worked, no? | 18:54 |
jelkner | let's see | 18:54 |
jelkner | at 7 pm, we should see it | 18:54 |
louisea | no, the last one I mean | 18:54 |
louisea | okay | 18:54 |
jelkner | any second now | 18:59 |
Big_Brother | jelkner Answer question ignored at 15:15:52 today (You like IRC. Check logs.) | 19:00 |
Big_Brother | and no space? | 19:00 |
louisea | yup, looks like I got it. | 19:00 |
replaceafill | hello everybody | 19:00 |
jelkner | good evening! | 19:00 |
louisea | hello! | 19:00 |
jelkner | you da man, louisea, we're all waiting for you | 19:01 |
louisea | alright. So tonight we will mostly be hearing for progress from jelkner | 19:02 |
jelkner | i can be real brief | 19:02 |
louisea | on how it's going taking out the loan | 19:02 |
jelkner | we have what i believe to be a solid business plan | 19:02 |
jelkner | i'm going to the credit union tomorrow to ask for a $40K loan | 19:03 |
jelkner | that is enough to keep replaceafill working full time beginning aug. 1 | 19:03 |
jelkner | and louisea working 30 hours per week beginning sept 1 | 19:03 |
louisea | sounds good! | 19:04 |
jelkner | replaceafill will dive right in learning civicrm and creating a robust instance for nea4or | 19:04 |
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jelkner | with the confidence from doing that, and louisea to hit the streets for us | 19:05 |
jelkner | we will look for paying customers | 19:05 |
jelkner | btw. we received our first payment for work z0nny is doing | 19:05 |
jelkner | congrats, z0nny! | 19:05 |
replaceafill | awesome zOnny | 19:06 |
louisea | congratulations! | 19:06 |
jelkner | and thanks to ubuntourist for bringing us that customer | 19:06 |
zOnny | thanks | 19:06 |
jelkner | the only other thing i have to add is that i have a plan b, should the bank not be forthcoming | 19:06 |
jelkner | so i do believe we will be able to obtain the funds to launch | 19:07 |
ubuntourist | streetwalking? ;-) | 19:07 |
jelkner | lol | 19:07 |
jelkner | more or less | 19:07 |
replaceafill | :D | 19:07 |
ubuntourist | I thought that was Flint's gig. ;-) | 19:07 |
jelkner | once the funds are in the bank | 19:07 |
jelkner | we need to setup louisea to be able to manage them | 19:07 |
jelkner | i will bring that up with the credit union tomorrow as well | 19:08 |
jelkner | by next week, i should have this figured out | 19:08 |
jelkner | just in time for replaceafill to start! | 19:08 |
jelkner | that's all i have | 19:08 |
ubuntourist | Me. | 19:09 |
jelkner | louisea, any word from Rena? | 19:09 |
louisea | I spoke with Rena yesterday about the BCCC website | 19:09 |
jelkner | i need to call her | 19:09 |
ubuntourist | I'm finally starting to see a brief light at the end of the Sound Advice tunnel, before entering the next one. | 19:09 |
jelkner | she should be encouraged to attend our 7 pm tuesday meetings | 19:09 |
louisea | she's almost completed with it and we'll be ready to show them | 19:09 |
jelkner | cool | 19:10 |
jelkner | great news, ubuntourist! | 19:10 |
ubuntourist | So, I hope to install CiviCRM shortly and see what I can pick up. | 19:10 |
jelkner | that will be wonderful! | 19:10 |
replaceafill | do you guys think that having a testing civicrm instance would be helpful? | 19:11 |
replaceafill | even if it's not "production" ready | 19:11 |
ubuntourist | As for NHA (National Hospital Associates), this is probably a good Flask task, yes? | 19:11 |
ubuntourist | replaceafill, what's the downside? It seems like a good idea to me. | 19:11 |
replaceafill | ubuntourist, cool, i'll set that up | 19:12 |
replaceafill | i think we need something to mess up with | 19:13 |
ubuntourist | Abso-tively, posi-lutely! | 19:13 |
ubuntourist | Speaking of Sound Advice... | 19:14 |
ubuntourist | ...still some rough edges on Marco's stuff but my code is now dependent on his latest work. | 19:15 |
ubuntourist | The JSON files he produces are stable enough to use as configuration files for my code. | 19:16 |
ubuntourist | I guess that's all from me at the moment. | 19:18 |
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louisea | okay, well then that wraps us up for tonight | 19:18 |
louisea | glad to hear news from everyone. | 19:19 |
jelkner | comcast dropped me | 19:19 |
louisea | anything to add? | 19:19 |
mr_german | I have something to report | 19:19 |
jelkner | ACTION will look at the logs | 19:19 |
mr_german | Well, here I have what you requested the last week jelkner | 19:19 |
mr_german | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sIO5zIXmQDn9CeSoSZtfIR1U5s1d32zvlSXcBSy_xEA/edit | 19:19 |
replaceafill | mr_german, i think i was the one who requested that | 19:20 |
mr_german | oh | 19:20 |
jelkner | yes, for vote testing, yes? | 19:20 |
replaceafill | and you should make it private btw | 19:20 |
mr_german | ye | 19:20 |
jelkner | we can test on thursday with the primes | 19:21 |
ubuntourist | So... no one's using the official @novawebdevelopment.org addresses except me? | 19:21 |
mr_german | sounds good | 19:21 |
replaceafill | dsmall email should be in the logs mr_german | 19:21 |
replaceafill | try to add it there | 19:21 |
mr_german | k replaceafill | 19:21 |
jelkner | thursday at 1:30 pm | 19:21 |
jelkner | you and eric are scheduled to test | 19:22 |
mr_german | yep | 19:22 |
replaceafill | ubuntourist, i have it set up, but i don't use it | 19:22 |
jelkner | i have it setup too | 19:22 |
jelkner | and i will start using | 19:22 |
jelkner | it | 19:22 |
jelkner | once we have customers to use it with | 19:22 |
ubuntourist | (I just thought it looked more professional to communicate with it, and am trying to get in the habit.) | 19:22 |
replaceafill | yes, that's my thinking too | 19:22 |
replaceafill | (once we get customers) | 19:23 |
ubuntourist | We have customers. Gallaudet, NHA... | 19:23 |
replaceafill | customers who i need to communicate with :P | 19:24 |
ubuntourist | replaceafill ;-) | 19:24 |
mr_german | replaceafill, I already forked helios repository to my account with my changes | 19:25 |
replaceafill | mr_german, cool, thanks | 19:25 |
mr_german | https://github.com/gfbot/helios-server | 19:25 |
mr_german | that's all from me. | 19:28 |
mr_german | ACTION done | 19:28 |
louisea | okay. so I think that's it for tonight | 19:29 |
louisea | any final comments? | 19:29 |
ubuntourist | I have a feeling jelkner is gone again ;-) | 19:29 |
ubuntourist | Nothing from this quarter. | 19:29 |
louisea | ubuntourist: seems like it | 19:29 |
replaceafill | i think we're done | 19:29 |
louisea | well it's 7:30. Thanks for meeting everyone. | 19:30 |
louisea | Until next week! | 19:30 |
replaceafill | thanks everybody | 19:30 |
mr_german | thx guys! | 19:30 |
ubuntourist | Ta-ta. | 19:30 |
louisea | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 19:30 |
replaceafill | awesome! | 19:30 |
replaceafill | :) | 19:30 |
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