IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2017-10-03

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jelknerr u ready, my friend?12:41
jelknerwe have soooo much to talk about!12:41
replaceafilljelkner, yes12:41
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replaceafilljelkner, quick question14:46
replaceafilljelkner, the mailing list address will be members@nea4or.us14:46
replaceafilljelkner, is it ok if the "prefix" (that string you see in all emails) would be [nea-members]?14:46
replaceafilljelkner, sorry i meant [nea4or-members]14:47
jelknerany reason?14:47
jelknerdash is ugly14:47
replaceafilljelkner, no reason14:48
replaceafilljelkner, i just wanted nea there somehow14:48
jelknerit is there14:48
replaceafilljelkner, but if you're ok with just [members]14:48
replaceafillyeah, but this is for the mail subjects14:48 is sooo much better14:49
replaceafilllet me grab a screenshot14:49
replaceafilljelkner, yes, but that's the email *address*14:49
replaceafillhold on14:49
replaceafilllook at thos ellipses ;)14:51
replaceafillmy question is about the red one14:51
replaceafillthe blue one will be indeed members@nea4or.us14:51
replaceafillbut to me messages with subjects like: "[members] Check this union website" miss something14:52
replaceafillACTION feels like he's bikeshedding...14:53
jelknernot at all "members" sounds great to me14:56
jelkneror "sisters and brothers'14:56
jelknerbut not with dashes14:57
jelkneri like members14:57
replaceafillthat's the address!14:57
jelkneryou are confusing me14:57
replaceafilli suck at explaining!14:57
replaceafilli know man, sorry14:57
jelknerwhich, since i'm a bear of very little brain, is easy to do14:58
jelknerwhat are you asking14:58
replaceafillyou know what, let me finish this, send an email and then get your feedback14:58
jelknerlet's take it from the top14:58
jelknerokie dokie14:58
replaceafilljelkner, sorry and thanks :D14:58
replaceafillACTION finishes setting it up14:58
jelknernp and you're welcome ;-)14:58
replaceafilljelkner, ready15:08
replaceafilljelkner, could you check your email and see if you got one titled: "Welcome to the mailing list"15:08
replaceafillfrom member@nea4or.us15:08
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4016:03
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Big_BrotherNOVA Web Development website contact form and an address to send to. Probably something more spam-proof than info@...19:00
lelkneralfarohello everyone19:00
lelkneralfaromy "/remind" request didn't appear. Probably something I've done wrong19:00
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lelkneralfarobut I want to add a discussion of invoice number procedure to the agenda19:01
mjsir911!remind test19:01
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lelkneralfarothanks mjsir91119:01
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lelkneralfaro!remind discuss invoice number procedure19:02
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lelkneralfarowho added the first item to the agenda?19:03
mjsir911I think it was ubuntourist, but ill cover19:03
lelkneralfarookay, thanks, take it away19:03
mjsir911I'm not sure what he meant about a contact form but I can assume he meant a form on the website that you could fill in your email and a message to get in contact with us19:04
lelkneralfarookay I understand. do we have someone working on adding that?19:04
mjsir911But with the address, we are now using our professional emails and we also have some fancy ones like that gets sent to everybody, but we should have one that people can just send questions to if they need to19:04
mjsir911We just need to make a decision as to what that email should be, because as mentioned, would be sent a lot of spam as that is typically a much used email19:05
Rena_I'll brb. Have to move locations19:06
mjsir911I think `info` is alright, since we are letting google handle spam and it does pretty well with that19:06
lelkneralfarowell that keeps things simple19:07
lelkneralfaroso we can stick with info and let ubuntourist know we think it's fine19:07
mjsir911yep, sounds good19:07
lelkneralfaroalright, thanks mjsir91119:08
mjsir911and with the website forms, I dont think we have anybody on that but I'm not sure who would do that19:08
lelkneralfarodid you do the last website edit mr_german?19:08
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lelkneralfarookay, while we wait for that response I'll move onto the invoice point19:09
lelkneralfaroI want to make sure that we do not end up using the same invoice numbers which can cause confusion later on19:10
lelkneralfaroit's not a huge deal but I wanted to bring it up so that we have a good practice on it19:11
lelkneralfaroI created a simple spreadsheet19:11
lelkneralfarothat is in the google drive folder19:11
lelkneralfaroin it I have put a tentative procedure for how each individual NWD member is to select their invoice numbers19:12
lelkneralfaropeople can feel free to make edits19:12
lelkneralfaroI noticed, for example, that zOnny is using a different procedure19:13
mjsir911I think that looks reasonable19:13
lelkneralfarozOnny, if you want, you can write in however you are doing things that's fine19:14
lelkneralfarothen we'll know what's going on19:14
lelkneralfarothat's all I had to say on that point19:14
lelkneralfaroand don't have anything else for the whole group19:14
lelkneralfaroanybody want to add anything?19:15
lelkneralfaromr_german, you here?19:15
lelkneralfarowell that seems like everything. 19:16
lelkneralfarothanks for coming together!19:16
lelkneralfaroACTION drops the bag of gravel19:16
lelkneralfaroI hope you all have a great week and see you all soon.19:17
lelkneralfarogo for it nrcerna19:17
nrcernafirst of all, hello everyone! I want to know waht is my ID for the NWD email 19:17
nrcernaIm kind of confuse about it19:17
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lelkneralfaroI think ubuntourist can answer that question19:18
mjsir911I would ask ubuntourist for help, but your email should be natalia.cerna@novawebdevelopment.org19:18
lelkneralfarohi ubuntourist19:19
ubuntouristSorry to be late.19:19
lelkneralfarono worries. nrcerna was just asking what their NWD email is19:19
lelkneralfarodoes the address mjsir911 wrote look right?19:19
ubuntouristmjsir911 is correct.19:19
mjsir911I gtg, bye19:20
nrcernaYep, I saw it19:20
nrcernaOne more question. what I have do to set it up like ubuntourist  said?19:21
ubuntouristThe trick is: In order to send, a mailbox with a new password has to be set up on webfaction.  The only purpose of this account is to allow Google to send19:21
ubuntourista verification code that proves you are allowed to send as natalia.cerna@novawebdevelopment.org19:22
nrcernaOh, I get it! Thank you ubuntourist and lelkneralfaro  :-)19:22
lelkneralfarono problem!19:23
ubuntouristSo, there needs to be a bit of coordination: Tech support at your end (nrcerna) to give you the mailbox password, and walk you through the authentication. It's a one-time thing.19:23
lelkneralfaroubuntourist will help you set it up when you two are free19:24
ubuntouristOnce you have established you have the right to send mail with that alternate address, everything works out.19:24
ubuntouristAnd you never need to do the setup again.19:24
lelkneralfaroubuntourist, should we talk about the Gallaudet contract?19:25
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, probably. :-(19:25
lelkneralfarodo you still want something showing how broke we are? I can provide financial records19:25
nrcernaOk, ubuntourist let me know when you are available to do that! ;-)19:26
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, that would be good. I haven't set up a meeting yet, but it looks like I'll be on campus tomorrow and Thursday at least.  That may cause me to blow off Friday.19:26
lelkneralfarookay, I'll get those records together tomorrow19:28
ubuntouristDragana's thought: If there's a fight, keep the rate high and lower the hours until it's acceptable.  I don't think she realizes how much that will hurt her.19:28
lelkneralfarothat's what jelkner was suggesting as well. 19:28
ubuntourist(Or rather, I think she'll continue to expect the same number of hours but some of them will be "for free".)19:28
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, Im here19:29
lelkneralfaroif you don't think that's a good solution we'll have to suggest another rate19:29
mr_germanSorry about that..19:29
lelkneralfaroI need to run. So I'll quickly say a few things 19:29
ubuntouristStill, it will establish a rate on paper if nothing else, and make it easier to ask a higher rate for other people, I suppose.19:29
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, I'm done ranting. go ahead. ;-)19:30
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, did you see my emails?19:30
lelkneralfaromr_german, yes I did19:30
lelkneralfaroI'm about to send a new link, the last one I provided was incorrect19:30
lelkneralfarocould you fix that tonight?19:30
lelkneralfaroI'll get it to you within 20 minutes19:30
lelkneralfaroand ubuntourist: I'll be clearing up the DC tax situation 19:31
lelkneralfaroand I'll let you know what happens with that19:31
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, this one is the wrong one?
ubuntouristACTION holds his breath...19:31
lelkneralfaromr_german, actually that looks right19:32
lelkneralfaroI'll look into it and let you know what I find soon, the campaign was mentioning it being the wrong link... I don't know19:32
lelkneralfarolooks right to me19:32
ubuntouristComes up with "Volunteer for..."19:32
lelkneralfarowell I have to run!19:32
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, k19:32
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, I'll talk with Douglas19:33
mr_germanabout the last email that you sent19:33
lelkneralfaromr_german, yes I saw that, that sounds good to me. thanks19:33
lelkneralfaroit's important to us and them so take a crack at it19:33
lelkneralfaroalright gotta go19:34
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, k19:34
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, take care!19:34
ubuntouristI'll check the log to see if I missed anything earth-shattering.19:34
lelkneralfaronothing earth-shattering19:34
lelkneralfarojust a decision about the info address19:34
lelkneralfarocheck it out19:34
ubuntouristACTION is left holding the bag of gravel.. and drops it.19:35
ubuntouristnrcerna, I'll send the password and instructions to you and replaceafill.19:36
nrcernaOk, thank you ubuntourist 19:36

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