IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2017-10-03

*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev06:38
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev07:49
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev08:02
*** mjsir911_ has joined #novawebdev09:33
*** replaceafill has joined #novawebdev10:35
*** jelkner has joined #novawebdev12:40
jelknerr u ready, my friend?12:41
jelknerwe have soooo much to talk about!12:41
replaceafilljelkner, yes12:41
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev13:17
*** jelkner has joined #novawebdev14:11
*** mr_german has joined #novawebdev14:11
replaceafilljelkner, quick question14:46
replaceafilljelkner, the mailing list address will be members@nea4or.us14:46
replaceafilljelkner, is it ok if the "prefix" (that string you see in all emails) would be [nea-members]?14:46
replaceafilljelkner, sorry i meant [nea4or-members]14:47
jelknerany reason?14:47
jelknerdash is ugly14:47
replaceafilljelkner, no reason14:48
replaceafilljelkner, i just wanted nea there somehow14:48
jelknerit is there14:48
replaceafilljelkner, but if you're ok with just [members]14:48
jelknernea4or.us14:48
replaceafillyeah, but this is for the mail subjects14:48
jelknermembers@nea4or.us is sooo much better14:49
replaceafilllet me grab a screenshot14:49
replaceafilljelkner, yes, but that's the email *address*14:49
replaceafillhold on14:49
replaceafilljelkner, https://i.imgur.com/SiBx0Wo.png14:50
replaceafilllook at thos ellipses ;)14:51
replaceafillmy question is about the red one14:51
replaceafillthe blue one will be indeed members@nea4or.us14:51
replaceafillbut to me messages with subjects like: "[members] Check this union website" miss something14:52
replaceafillACTION feels like he's bikeshedding...14:53
jelknernot at all "members" sounds great to me14:56
jelkneror "sisters and brothers'14:56
jelknerperhaps14:56
jelknerbut not with dashes14:57
jelknersisters-and-brothers@nea4or.us14:57
jelkneri like members14:57
replaceafillno14:57
replaceafillthat's the address!14:57
jelkneryou are confusing me14:57
replaceafilli suck at explaining!14:57
replaceafilli know man, sorry14:57
jelknerwhich, since i'm a bear of very little brain, is easy to do14:58
jelknerwhat are you asking14:58
replaceafillyou know what, let me finish this, send an email and then get your feedback14:58
jelknerlet's take it from the top14:58
jelknerokie dokie14:58
replaceafilljelkner, sorry and thanks :D14:58
replaceafillACTION finishes setting it up14:58
jelknernp and you're welcome ;-)14:58
replaceafilljelkner, ready15:08
replaceafilljelkner, could you check your email and see if you got one titled: "Welcome to the mailing list"15:08
replaceafillfrom member@nea4or.us15:08
replaceafillmembers*15:08
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4016:03
*** replaceafill has joined #novawebdev16:21
*** replaceafill has joined #novawebdev16:21
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev17:05
*** nrcerna has joined #novawebdev17:52
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev18:05
*** GFbot__ has joined #novawebdev18:05
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev18:51
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev18:53
*** nrcerna has joined #novawebdev18:53
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev18:54
*** mjsir911 has joined #novawebdev18:57
*** lelkneralfaro has joined #novawebdev18:57
Big_BrotherNOVA Web Development website contact form and an info@novawebdevelopment.org address to send to. Probably something more spam-proof than info@...19:00
lelkneralfarohello everyone19:00
mjsir911hello19:00
lelkneralfaromy "/remind" request didn't appear. Probably something I've done wrong19:00
*** Rena_ has joined #novawebdev19:00
lelkneralfarobut I want to add a discussion of invoice number procedure to the agenda19:01
mjsir911!remind test19:01
Big_Brother"test" added to message queue19:01
lelkneralfarothanks mjsir91119:01
*** GFbot__ has joined #novawebdev19:02
lelkneralfaro!remind discuss invoice number procedure19:02
Big_Brother"discuss invoice number procedure" added to message queue19:02
*** zOnny has joined #novawebdev19:02
lelkneralfarowho added the first item to the agenda?19:03
mjsir911I think it was ubuntourist, but ill cover19:03
lelkneralfarookay, thanks, take it away19:03
mjsir911I'm not sure what he meant about a contact form but I can assume he meant a form on the website that you could fill in your email and a message to get in contact with us19:04
lelkneralfarookay I understand. do we have someone working on adding that?19:04
mjsir911But with the info@nova...org address, we are now using our professional emails and we also have some fancy ones like everyone@nova...org that gets sent to everybody, but we should have one that people can just send questions to if they need to19:04
mjsir911We just need to make a decision as to what that email should be, because as mentioned, info@nova...org would be sent a lot of spam as that is typically a much used email19:05
Rena_I'll brb. Have to move locations19:06
lelkneralfarookay19:06
mjsir911I think `info` is alright, since we are letting google handle spam and it does pretty well with that19:06
lelkneralfarowell that keeps things simple19:07
lelkneralfaroso we can stick with info and let ubuntourist know we think it's fine19:07
mjsir911yep, sounds good19:07
lelkneralfaroalright, thanks mjsir91119:08
mjsir911and with the website forms, I dont think we have anybody on that but I'm not sure who would do that19:08
lelkneralfarodid you do the last website edit mr_german?19:08
*** Rena__ has joined #novawebdev19:09
lelkneralfarookay, while we wait for that response I'll move onto the invoice point19:09
lelkneralfaroI want to make sure that we do not end up using the same invoice numbers which can cause confusion later on19:10
lelkneralfaroit's not a huge deal but I wanted to bring it up so that we have a good practice on it19:11
lelkneralfaroI created a simple spreadsheet19:11
lelkneralfarohttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7-CRlgH_fVnxtZiSg-4ONaOzyuMKT-MGxlUVHm1H-Q/edit#gid=019:11
lelkneralfarothat is in the google drive folder19:11
lelkneralfaroin it I have put a tentative procedure for how each individual NWD member is to select their invoice numbers19:12
lelkneralfaropeople can feel free to make edits19:12
lelkneralfaroI noticed, for example, that zOnny is using a different procedure19:13
mjsir911I think that looks reasonable19:13
lelkneralfarozOnny, if you want, you can write in however you are doing things that's fine19:14
lelkneralfarothen we'll know what's going on19:14
lelkneralfarothat's all I had to say on that point19:14
lelkneralfaroand don't have anything else for the whole group19:14
lelkneralfaroanybody want to add anything?19:15
zOnnyOk19:15
lelkneralfaromr_german, you here?19:15
lelkneralfarowell that seems like everything. 19:16
mjsir911yep19:16
lelkneralfarothanks for coming together!19:16
lelkneralfaroACTION drops the bag of gravel19:16
lelkneralfaroI hope you all have a great week and see you all soon.19:17
nrcernawait!!!19:17
lelkneralfarohaha19:17
lelkneralfarogo for it nrcerna19:17
nrcernafirst of all, hello everyone! I want to know waht is my ID for the NWD email 19:17
nrcernaIm kind of confuse about it19:17
*** ubuntourist has joined #novawebdev19:18
lelkneralfaroI think ubuntourist can answer that question19:18
mjsir911I would ask ubuntourist for help, but your email should be natalia.cerna@novawebdevelopment.org19:18
lelkneralfarohi ubuntourist19:19
ubuntouristSorry to be late.19:19
lelkneralfarono worries. nrcerna was just asking what their NWD email is19:19
lelkneralfarodoes the address mjsir911 wrote look right?19:19
ubuntouristmjsir911 is correct.19:19
lelkneralfarocool19:19
mjsir911I gtg, bye19:20
nrcernaYep, I saw it19:20
lelkneralfarogreat.19:20
nrcernaOne more question. what I have do to set it up like ubuntourist  said?19:21
ubuntouristThe trick is: In order to send, a mailbox with a new password has to be set up on webfaction.  The only purpose of this account is to allow Google to send19:21
ubuntourista verification code that proves you are allowed to send as natalia.cerna@novawebdevelopment.org19:22
nrcernaOh, I get it! Thank you ubuntourist and lelkneralfaro  :-)19:22
lelkneralfarono problem!19:23
ubuntouristSo, there needs to be a bit of coordination: Tech support at your end (nrcerna) to give you the mailbox password, and walk you through the authentication. It's a one-time thing.19:23
lelkneralfaroubuntourist will help you set it up when you two are free19:24
ubuntouristOnce you have established you have the right to send mail with that alternate address, everything works out.19:24
ubuntouristAnd you never need to do the setup again.19:24
lelkneralfaroubuntourist, should we talk about the Gallaudet contract?19:25
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, probably. :-(19:25
lelkneralfarodo you still want something showing how broke we are? I can provide financial records19:25
nrcernaOk, ubuntourist let me know when you are available to do that! ;-)19:26
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, that would be good. I haven't set up a meeting yet, but it looks like I'll be on campus tomorrow and Thursday at least.  That may cause me to blow off Friday.19:26
lelkneralfarookay, I'll get those records together tomorrow19:28
ubuntouristDragana's thought: If there's a fight, keep the rate high and lower the hours until it's acceptable.  I don't think she realizes how much that will hurt her.19:28
lelkneralfarothat's what jelkner was suggesting as well. 19:28
ubuntourist(Or rather, I think she'll continue to expect the same number of hours but some of them will be "for free".)19:28
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, Im here19:29
lelkneralfaroif you don't think that's a good solution we'll have to suggest another rate19:29
mr_germanSorry about that..19:29
lelkneralfaroI need to run. So I'll quickly say a few things 19:29
ubuntouristStill, it will establish a rate on paper if nothing else, and make it easier to ask a higher rate for other people, I suppose.19:29
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, I'm done ranting. go ahead. ;-)19:30
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, did you see my emails?19:30
lelkneralfaromr_german, yes I did19:30
lelkneralfaroI'm about to send a new link, the last one I provided was incorrect19:30
lelkneralfarocould you fix that tonight?19:30
lelkneralfaroI'll get it to you within 20 minutes19:30
lelkneralfaroand ubuntourist: I'll be clearing up the DC tax situation 19:31
lelkneralfaroand I'll let you know what happens with that19:31
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, this one is the wrong one? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScPPA7NpJ7TNvzh8QQSoQhVwLECnx7d0dP3Ok2xS9Hg-RLtfQ/viewform19:31
ubuntouristACTION holds his breath...19:31
lelkneralfaromr_german, actually that looks right19:32
lelkneralfaroI'll look into it and let you know what I find soon, the campaign was mentioning it being the wrong link... I don't know19:32
lelkneralfarolooks right to me19:32
ubuntouristComes up with "Volunteer for..."19:32
lelkneralfarowell I have to run!19:32
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, k19:32
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, I'll talk with Douglas19:33
mr_germanabout the last email that you sent19:33
lelkneralfaromr_german, yes I saw that, that sounds good to me. thanks19:33
lelkneralfaroit's important to us and them so take a crack at it19:33
lelkneralfaroalright gotta go19:34
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, k19:34
mr_germanlelkneralfaro, take care!19:34
lelkneralfarothanks!19:34
ubuntouristI'll check the log to see if I missed anything earth-shattering.19:34
lelkneralfaronothing earth-shattering19:34
lelkneralfarojust a decision about the info address19:34
lelkneralfarocheck it out19:34
lelkneralfarobye!19:34
ubuntouristACTION is left holding the bag of gravel.. and drops it.19:35
ubuntouristnrcerna, I'll send the password and instructions to you and replaceafill.19:36
nrcernaOk, thank you ubuntourist 19:36

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.2 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!