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| Big_Brother | Notification of end of year tax payments | 09:13 |
| jelkner | !remind Would coinbase be a possible way to send funds? | 09:13 |
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| jelkner | !remind Could Edzon work with the new students this year to create a web page marketing our educational project? | 09:14 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 10:00 |
| Big_Brother | Notification of end of year tax payments | 10:00 |
| mr_german | good morning jelkner ubuntourist | 10:02 |
| ubuntourist | Ahoy, mr_german | 10:02 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, ubuntourist, lelkneralfaro_, mr_german, nrcerna, and replaceafill! | 10:28 |
| ubuntourist | Oy, jelkner | 10:28 |
| mr_german | Good morning! | 10:28 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 10:28 |
| jelkner | ACTION pulls himself away from statistical correlations to focus on the meeting ;-) | 10:28 |
| replaceafill | :) | 10:29 |
| ubuntourist | The lads from Arlington said they'd be participating from the student cafeteria. | 10:29 |
| nrcerna | good morning =) | 10:29 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | good morning everyone | 10:29 |
| Big_Brother | Notification of end of year tax payments | 10:29 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'll start | 10:30 |
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| lelkneralfaro_ | just wanted to let you all know that federal tax payments are due in a week | 10:30 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | and that I'll be sending the government their cut | 10:30 |
| ubuntourist | What of the land of taxation without representation? | 10:31 |
| jelkner | you have all the tools you need to do that, lelkneralfaro_? | 10:31 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner | 10:31 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | yes | 10:31 |
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| lelkneralfaro_ | the land of taxation is also getting theirs | 10:31 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I've been paying DC taxes | 10:31 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | the notifications that jelkner has been receiving refer to unfiled documents from quarters 1 and 2 of the year | 10:32 |
| ubuntourist | Ah. Any consequences of note regarding those, lelkneralfaro_ ? | 10:33 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'll just send in those forms and hope that the delinquency mailers go away | 10:33 |
| jelkner | i don't mind them as long as you tell me they don't mean trouble for us? | 10:33 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | ubuntourist: I have received no notifications regarding interest or fines, but I'm not 100% sure on that. | 10:34 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro_, can we discuss NVM here today? | 10:35 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | When i looked into it previously they said they couldn't inform me about your account | 10:35 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | but I have been keeping up with the payments to DC since October | 10:35 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner, with everyone or individually? | 10:36 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro_, thanks. | 10:36 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro_, with everyone | 10:37 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | sure, want to start on that now or put it at the end of the meeting? | 10:37 |
| jelkner | you tell me | 10:37 |
| jelkner | but it is important for everyone | 10:37 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'm not sure what you are talking about | 10:38 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | so take it away | 10:38 |
| jelkner | i had a good talk with jon liss yesterday | 10:38 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | then we'll return to the other points | 10:38 |
| jelkner | i told him about our current status and prospects | 10:38 |
| jelkner | 1. We are surviving on $5K per month that lelkneralfaro_ and replaceafill are living on | 10:39 |
| jelkner | that will expire in about 3 months | 10:39 |
| jelkner | and to keep going we need a way to get at least that amount per month after that | 10:39 |
| jelkner | 2. I asked him about our proposal | 10:40 |
| jelkner | to be frank, he was pretty underwhelmed by our proposal | 10:40 |
| jelkner | he said that a 1 page document with not many details after weeks of waiting indicates we need to get our game together on developing a business plan if we want to get funding. | 10:41 |
| jelkner | he also made it clear he is pulling for us | 10:41 |
| jelkner | so we discussed some other possible smaller scale ways we could collaborate | 10:42 |
| jelkner | nrcerna came up | 10:42 |
| jelkner | since he asked us if we had a designer | 10:42 |
| jelkner | i said we did | 10:42 |
| jelkner | so lelkneralfaro_ we should continue to explore possible smaller scale relationship with NVM so that we can begin to work with them on something | 10:43 |
| jelkner | i told him about our OR Arlington project | 10:43 |
| jelkner | he said it was a good idea, but it still isn't a "business plan" | 10:44 |
| jelkner | so as we move forward on that we need to turn it into one | 10:44 |
| jelkner | we need something we can present to OR national and big unions that looks like a real business plan | 10:44 |
| jelkner | since i don't know what a "real business plan" is, i guess that's for you to figure out, lelkneralfaro_ | 10:45 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner, did you speak with Jon after him and I spoke? | 10:45 |
| jelkner | but jon had some ideas i asked him to share with you | 10:45 |
| jelkner | i spoke to him before you two talked | 10:45 |
| jelkner | in fact, we hung up when your call came in ;-) | 10:46 |
| jelkner | ok, that's all i got | 10:46 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, So. "business plan"... timelines, budgets, expenses, estimated revenues, personnel requirements, percentages of time dedicated to projects? | 10:46 |
| jelkner | yup, ubuntourist, that's the name of the game | 10:46 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | ubuntourist, yes | 10:46 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I don't speak the language, but I see it come up on Gallaudet stuff, even if I don't grok it. | 10:47 |
| jelkner | me either, ubuntourist | 10:47 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner, putting together those plans is great, I think it is good to have plans | 10:47 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | but if I could boil it down here to something quick, I do think this comes back to looking for lots and lots of clients | 10:47 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | and putting together how much it would cost to provide them with tendenci set up and support in the case of Douglas' work | 10:48 |
| jelkner | depends, lelkneralfaro_, for web application development it will be just one or two big clients | 10:48 |
| jelkner | but for entry level web design, lots and lots | 10:49 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | yes for Douglas' work just a few clients | 10:49 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:49 |
| ubuntourist | I will say that what I've seen of the project I'm on, the business "plan" is something more like a business "fantasy". However we do have a set of milestones that we checkoff periodically. | 10:49 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I saw that DSA is looking for crm | 10:49 |
| jelkner | great! | 10:49 |
| jelkner | you should jump on that one | 10:49 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | and we could look for a nonprofit | 10:50 |
| jelkner | they are the kind of clients we are looking for | 10:50 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | or reach out to tons and tons of nonprofits and hope one hits | 10:50 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro_, i think having the "business fantasy" in formal form is essential | 10:50 |
| jelkner | since that is what you circulate | 10:51 |
| jelkner | when asking for funding or offering services | 10:51 |
| jelkner | anyway, we should continue this later | 10:51 |
| jelkner | since there are other things on the agenda | 10:51 |
| jelkner | but this is crucial for our survival | 10:51 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | before we go on | 10:52 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | if I may | 10:52 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | what is the status on the ArlingtonOR project | 10:52 |
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| jelkner | drats, we lost replaceafill_ | 10:53 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I think that's the test case to see if we have a product that we can sell to others | 10:53 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:53 |
| jelkner | we need to move with all deliberate speed on that | 10:53 |
| replaceafill | sorry, was disconnected | 10:53 |
| replaceafill | will catch up with the log | 10:53 |
| jelkner | mr_german and replaceafill are working on it | 10:53 |
| jelkner | i was hoping to hear how it is going | 10:53 |
| jelkner | since we have our monthly meeting tomorrow at 7 pm | 10:54 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro_, any chance you could come to that? | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'll speak with replaceafill tomorrow about timeline then | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner, I can't guarantee i can be there at 7 | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | but I'll try | 10:54 |
| jelkner | it runs 7 to 9 pm | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | definitely can't do that | 10:54 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | are you talking about ArlingtonOR meeting? | 10:55 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | or meeting with Douglas? | 10:55 |
| jelkner | i was talking about OR Arlington | 10:55 |
| jelkner | are you still in NC tomorrow? | 10:55 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | yeah I can't do that. I'm in NC | 10:55 |
| jelkner | never mind then | 10:55 |
| jelkner | for next month, please try to be here | 10:55 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'll put it on my calendar | 10:56 |
| jelkner | it will be important for you to introduce yourself to folks and to start to understand our product as it develops | 10:56 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, mr_german, do we have anything to show tomorrow? | 10:56 |
| replaceafill | what's your status mr_german? | 10:57 |
| mr_german | jelkner, yes, I've been working on National Hospital | 10:57 |
| jelkner | i'm confused, mr_german, i thought we agreed that you would turn that over to zOnny | 10:57 |
| jelkner | OR Arlington is our top priority | 10:57 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, jelkner ik | 10:58 |
| jelkner | since we will be developing our product there | 10:58 |
| jelkner | mr_german, if you could get a basics site up by tomorrow 7 pm it would be a huge help | 10:58 |
| jelkner | so i could show it to folks | 10:58 |
| jelkner | meetings are only once a month | 10:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's what we agreed last week | 10:58 |
| jelkner | if i can't show it tomorrow, i have to wait a whole additional month | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, have you started on the OR Arlington site? | 10:59 |
| mr_german | jelkner, do not worry about that | 10:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 10:59 |
| jelkner | we only have 3 months of funding left | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, do you have any repo i can start setting up? | 10:59 |
| jelkner | so we can't waste a month | 10:59 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, no yet | 10:59 |
| jelkner | so that's the task for today, mr_german | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you please create one today? | 10:59 |
| jelkner | get that basic website running | 10:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, with your current work | 10:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, Im using ora-ams as you said | 11:00 |
| jelkner | so ourrevolutionarlington.us points to it | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, yes, but there's nothing ther atm | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i mean, no commits | 11:00 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, mr_german you two can work on that after, yes? | 11:00 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I haven't pushed any commits yet | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 11:00 |
| nrcerna | replaceafill, jelkner, sorry but I have to go | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, let's talk after the meeting | 11:01 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, thanks | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, sure, see you later | 11:01 |
| jelkner | we may have work for you with NVM | 11:01 |
| jelkner | let's talk later | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ok, we are running over today | 11:02 |
| jelkner | but there are a few more items | 11:02 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I'm not in a hurry | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i wanted to commend zOnny for the great work he has been doing recruiting students | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | :D | 11:02 |
| jelkner | there skills are really growing, too | 11:03 |
| jelkner | it occurred to me that we could put them to work developing a website to promote our work educating them | 11:03 |
| jelkner | and use that for crowd funding our internship program | 11:03 |
| jelkner | s/their/there ;-) | 11:03 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'd like to invite lelkneralfaro_ to come in one afternoon and meet them | 11:04 |
| jelkner | they are there between 1:40 and 3:10 pm each day | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and talk more about this | 11:04 |
| jelkner | that's all i have on that | 11:04 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | lekneralfaro_ early next week may work | 11:04 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | sorry | 11:05 |
| jelkner | great | 11:05 |
| jelkner | you name the day | 11:05 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | I mean't jelkner | 11:05 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | Monday | 11:05 |
| jelkner | oops | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i thought you were in NC? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | monday is tomorrow | 11:05 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | not tomorrow | 11:05 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | next week | 11:05 |
| jelkner | ahh | 11:05 |
| jelkner | monday is fine | 11:05 |
| jelkner | 12/18 | 11:06 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:06 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | yeah | 11:06 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | okay, last item? | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i'll bring that up in class on tuesday and get back to you | 11:06 |
| jelkner | zOnny, remind me to do that please ;-) | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | !remind | 11:06 |
| mjsir911 | Unfortunately the queue gets wiped at 10:30 | 11:07 |
| zOnny | of course. Jelkner | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, Ah. good to know. | 11:07 |
| mjsir911 | The last item was using cryptocurrency to pay the ppl in el salvador? | 11:07 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:07 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | like bitcoin? | 11:07 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist, I use http://novawebdevelopment.org/irclogs/search?q=%21remind to check the items | 11:07 |
| jelkner | yup | 11:07 |
| mjsir911 | And I have a few quick links for this topic | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i don't think that'll work yet | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i just got an account on coinbase | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, our financial system is still in the stone age unfortunately | 11:08 |
| jelkner | are you sure? | 11:08 |
| mjsir911 | https://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/2021569-what-is-instant-exchange- & fees: https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2109597-buy-sell-bank-transfer-fees | 11:08 |
| jelkner | let's look into it | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | ok | 11:09 |
| jelkner | we need to be ever looking for the cheapest way to move funds | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | i agree | 11:09 |
| jelkner | ok, more on that later | 11:09 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | jelkner, | 11:09 |
| mjsir911 | I'm not sure what we mean by our financial system is in the stone age, but from a quick overview the coinbase transfers seem pretty simple | 11:09 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:10 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | not that the cost is unimportant | 11:10 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | but the legality of the situation is what is of concern | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, i meant that we our banks don't even take electronic transfers yet | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, just wired old transfers | 11:10 |
| mjsir911 | Ah I see | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ok, let's investigate | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | ok | 11:11 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | alright | 11:11 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | that it for today? | 11:11 |
| lelkneralfaro_ | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, zOnny See you in a few minutes. | 11:12 |
| jelkner | see you all next week! | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ok | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what's the EXACT situation | 11:12 |
| jelkner | mr_german, replaceafill ping me when there is something to look at | 11:12 |
| jelkner | by email | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i need to get back to statistical correlations ;-) | 11:12 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, tell me | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, zOnny (I'll head downstairs in about 4 minutes.) | 11:12 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:13 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist make it 10 | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, can you push your current changes to the ora repository NOW? | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, please... | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, zOnny Got it. 11:23 it shall be. | 11:13 |
| mr_german | oh | 11:14 |
| mr_german | k | 11:14 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, done | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what's is this supposed to be? | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i only see this: | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | https://i.imgur.com/EWjpskn.png | 11:18 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, that's what I have for now, I'm working on that right now | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | oh dear... | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so you haven't even copied the current content yet? | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ? | 11:20 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, no but, I can do that fast | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | sigh... | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ok | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, can i call you? | 11:22 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, mm yeah | 11:22 |
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