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| jelkner | !remind | 09:28 |
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| Big_Brother | Talk about plan for improving design skills | 09:28 |
| jelkner | !remind Are we ready to ask folks to sign up on ourrevolutionarlington? | 09:29 |
| Big_Brother | "Are we ready to ask folks to sign up on ourrevolutionarlington?" added to message queue | 09:29 |
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| louisea | !remind Update on Barbara Chambers Children's Center Project | 09:55 |
| Big_Brother | Invalid arguments: No closing quotation. | 09:55 |
| mjsir911 | ooh interesting | 09:55 |
| louisea | !remind Update on Barbara Chambers Childrens Center Project | 09:55 |
| Big_Brother | "Update on Barbara Chambers Childrens Center Project" added to message queue | 09:55 |
| mjsir911 | seems the quote broke it | 09:55 |
| louisea | yup, looks like it | 09:56 |
| louisea | !remind Put Mt. Rainier, MDs website development Request for Proposal on our radar | 09:57 |
| Big_Brother | "Put Mt. Rainier, MDs website development Request for Proposal on our radar" added to message queue | 09:57 |
| mjsir911 | well Big brother doesnt seem to have displayed the agenda | 10:01 |
| mjsir911 | !remind | 10:01 |
| Big_Brother | Talk about plan for improving design skills | 10:01 |
| mjsir911 | oh wait its at 10:30, my bad | 10:01 |
| louisea | lol. I've come on to the meeting early confused by why others handn't come | 10:03 |
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| jelkner | Good morning replaceafill and louisea! | 10:20 |
| louisea | morning | 10:22 |
| replaceafill | good morning! | 10:23 |
| jelkner | ACTION can't wait to hear from replaceafill if the Our Revolution Arlington site is ready for testing! | 10:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's exactly ready for that: *testing* | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | :) | 10:24 |
| jelkner | lol | 10:24 |
| jelkner | i undestand | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'd like the email functionality integrated from the beginning, but it's your call | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think we're really close | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i'd like your feedback and louisea's | 10:25 |
| jelkner | let's do a hangout immediately after the meeting | 10:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 10:25 |
| louisea | yeah. works for me | 10:26 |
| Big_Brother | Talk about plan for improving design skills | 10:30 |
| jelkner | louisea, why don't you do your items? | 10:30 |
| louisea | good morning everyone | 10:30 |
| louisea | whatever works | 10:30 |
| louisea | I just wanted to give people an update on BCCC's website development | 10:31 |
| jelkner | keep in mind that "people" at this point is you, replaceafill, mjsir911, and me | 10:31 |
| louisea | which Rena is the lead on | 10:31 |
| louisea | jelkner, yes I'm aware | 10:31 |
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| louisea | I'll say it here and then repeat elsewhere | 10:32 |
| louisea | and now we have zOnny | 10:32 |
| jelkner | ahh, and zOnny, good morning, zOnny! | 10:32 |
| louisea | hey zOnny, I'm just giving an update on progress on Barbara Chambers Children's Centers website | 10:32 |
| louisea | We've reached a point where we will be handing it over to their staff | 10:32 |
| zOnny | hello, everyone. | 10:32 |
| zOnny | cool! | 10:32 |
| louisea | they've asked that we train them on making simple HTML edits | 10:33 |
| louisea | so that they can add text content and menu items by themselves | 10:33 |
| louisea | so we'll be setting them up with that | 10:33 |
| louisea | but jelkner | 10:33 |
| jelkner | will hem be doing that? | 10:33 |
| louisea | well, not but | 10:33 |
| louisea | jelkner, yes | 10:33 |
| jelkner | perfect | 10:33 |
| louisea | jelkner, expect a check in the mail within the next two weeks | 10:34 |
| jelkner | ok | 10:34 |
| louisea | and after Rena completes this project she will be on our payroll | 10:34 |
| louisea | so that's that for that item | 10:35 |
| louisea | sound good to move on? | 10:35 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:35 |
| louisea | cool. | 10:35 |
| louisea | the next item is that Mt. Rainier MD is putting out a Request for Proposal for developing them a new website | 10:36 |
| louisea | I watched the works session meeting in which they briefly discussed what they are looking for | 10:36 |
| jelkner | we totally want to bid on that | 10:36 |
| louisea | They will be making the RFP public on Jan. 3, or 8th (I need to double check) | 10:37 |
| louisea | which I will put on my calendar | 10:37 |
| louisea | that RFP will contain all the details on what they looking for | 10:38 |
| louisea | From watching the meeting I can name a few things already | 10:38 |
| louisea | they want to be able to add their own content | 10:39 |
| louisea | so they will probably need a CMS | 10:39 |
| jelkner | the dredded cms | 10:39 |
| louisea | they are going to want to send out notifications | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i understand it will be a common use case | 10:39 |
| replaceafill | :) | 10:39 |
| louisea | so this is where replaceafill and tendenci come in | 10:39 |
| louisea | so that is an upcoming potential project for us | 10:40 |
| louisea | one thing that I want to flag as a concern of mine | 10:40 |
| louisea | although it may be unfounded, in which case let me know | 10:40 |
| louisea | would it not be a little strange that the same company that is family with Celina who is on the city council and for whom we did her campaign site | 10:41 |
| louisea | would be developing the city's cite | 10:41 |
| louisea | *site | 10:41 |
| jelkner | that is called conflict of interest | 10:41 |
| louisea | I think that some people may perceive some conflicts of interest | 10:41 |
| louisea | us being all family tied and partisan | 10:41 |
| louisea | and what not | 10:41 |
| jelkner | is celina is directly choosing the contract winner, it is a real concern | 10:42 |
| jelkner | but if the city manager makes the final call | 10:42 |
| jelkner | i think we are fine | 10:42 |
| jelkner | they saying "it's not who you are its who you know" exists for a reason | 10:43 |
| louisea | I'm not sure who makes the final decision, but even if the city manager makes the final call, I could see the situation being a little sticky for her | 10:43 |
| jelkner | we are social animals and tend to take care of people we know | 10:43 |
| louisea | yes, but sometimes who you know is a problem | 10:43 |
| jelkner | true | 10:44 |
| louisea | who you are and who you know brings you into conflict with other people | 10:44 |
| jelkner | i say we closely follow the rules | 10:44 |
| louisea | well, I just wanted to bring that up so that everyone knows the situation | 10:44 |
| jelkner | find out what they are and make sure we don't violate them | 10:44 |
| jelkner | that's all you can do in any case | 10:44 |
| louisea | it's a potential project, and even if we can serve the technical services, their may be a political problem | 10:44 |
| louisea | okay that's it for me! | 10:45 |
| jelkner | we need louisea filling out RFPs! | 10:45 |
| jelkner | so it's good practice no matter what happens | 10:45 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 10:45 |
| louisea | understood and agreed | 10:46 |
| louisea | want to take the next item jelkner? | 10:46 |
| jelkner | which is that? | 10:46 |
| louisea | Who knows? I'd have to scroll all the way up to find it | 10:46 |
| louisea | lol | 10:46 |
| louisea | if I must... | 10:47 |
| louisea | oh, plan for improving skills | 10:47 |
| jelkner | i would rather introduce a different item | 10:47 |
| jelkner | we need to struggle with folks about attending these meetings | 10:47 |
| jelkner | turn out is not great today | 10:48 |
| jelkner | and while i understand we are moving into the holiday season | 10:48 |
| louisea | yes, and that conversation is best had with more people here | 10:48 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure i agree | 10:48 |
| louisea | no, I mean, the agenda item | 10:48 |
| louisea | not the attendance | 10:49 |
| jelkner | since it will be my job to individually contact folks who were not hear and talk to them | 10:49 |
| jelkner | so what i am asking is for us "responsible people" to talk about a proper protocol | 10:49 |
| louisea | lol. | 10:50 |
| jelkner | we need to build this coop with our most commited folks | 10:50 |
| jelkner | and try to pull others along | 10:50 |
| louisea | well I think that its fair that I take over contacting people to talk to them about attendance | 10:50 |
| louisea | you already have a lot on your plate | 10:50 |
| jelkner | that would be most appreciated | 10:50 |
| louisea | but, yes, a conversation about communication is important | 10:50 |
| jelkner | but we can help by talking briefly about expectations here | 10:51 |
| louisea | yes | 10:51 |
| jelkner | that's why i suggested it | 10:51 |
| louisea | +1 | 10:51 |
| jelkner | then you can ask folks who didn't attend to read the log | 10:51 |
| jelkner | a coop is about mutual dependence | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we are a team | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we need to be able to count on each other if we are to be successful | 10:52 |
| jelkner | zOnny will remember what happened with one of our interns last year | 10:52 |
| jelkner | i was a bit harsh, perhaps, but i felt i needed to be | 10:52 |
| jelkner | i don't know how we set it up | 10:53 |
| jelkner | but there should be some kind of expectation that folks will participate in our weekly meetings | 10:53 |
| louisea | well I think that an upfront frank conversation about attendance and communication expectations is needed | 10:53 |
| jelkner | absolutely | 10:53 |
| jelkner | we also need some consequences | 10:53 |
| louisea | at some point perhaps a more strict policy with consequences | 10:53 |
| zOnny | right. | 10:53 |
| jelkner | like new work goes first to people who attend | 10:54 |
| louisea | yes, that's a good rule | 10:54 |
| replaceafill | good idea | 10:54 |
| jelkner | ok, that's all i have on that for now | 10:54 |
| jelkner | and we're almost out of time | 10:55 |
| louisea | okay, well I'll reach out to the members not in attendance and talk to them about our expectations about communication and attendance | 10:55 |
| louisea | and I'll tell them about how important it is for successful team work that people work together | 10:56 |
| louisea | and that there is not i in team | 10:56 |
| louisea | although there is one in equipo | 10:56 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 10:56 |
| replaceafill | :S | 10:57 |
| zOnny | :D | 10:57 |
| louisea | anybody got anything else? | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | nothing from me | 10:57 |
| jelkner | not me | 10:58 |
| zOnny | me neither | 10:58 |
| mjsir911 | doesnt look like it | 10:58 |
| mjsir911 | just a small thing though, i'll make an issue on the irc bot to allow for !remind after meeting start | 10:58 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:58 |
| louisea | +1 | 10:59 |
| louisea | okay well in that case | 10:59 |
| louisea | thanks for meeting | 10:59 |
| louisea | happy holidays! | 10:59 |
| louisea | If you can't attend next week please let us know | 10:59 |
| louisea | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:00 |
| louisea | and I need to move over my laundry to the dryer | 11:00 |
| louisea | then I can meet | 11:00 |
| louisea | give me a few minutes | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | i'm ready when you are louisea and jelkner | 11:01 |
| louisea | okay, im ready | 11:03 |
| louisea | google hangout? | 11:03 |
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| zOnny | /quit | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | I take it from mjsir911's recent issue posting that I missed a meeting. | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | I'll check the logs. | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | So. Meeting virtually next Saturday and not meeting physically this weekend or next. Correct? | 11:07 |
| mjsir911 | yea that sounds right | 11:10 |
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| jelkner | replaceafill, ping! | 13:12 |
| jelkner | hello mr_german! | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 13:13 |
| jelkner | i am confused by the new interface | 13:13 |
| jelkner | how can i see the list of members? | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, are you logged in as admin? | 13:14 |
| jelkner | i logged in as me | 13:14 |
| jelkner | but in the past, i had admin privelages | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think you have admin on nea4or.us | 13:14 |
| jelkner | ahh | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not ourrevolutionarlington.us | 13:14 |
| jelkner | so i wanted to check the role before emailing the sc | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, want me to give you admin privileges? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | you tell me? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | is that the best way? | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you wanted to check the "role"? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | or should i use a separate account? | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me give you admin rights | 13:16 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i don't understand what you mean by "role" though | 13:16 |
| jelkner | roll | 13:16 |
| jelkner | sorry about my English, man ;-) | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i meant the people on our list | 13:16 |
| jelkner | and i can't spell :-( | 13:17 |
| mr_german | jelkner, hello!, Im sorry I was getting my lunch | 13:17 |
| jelkner | lunch is important, np | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, done, please log out and log in back | 13:18 |
| jelkner | will od | 13:18 |
| jelkner | do | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, then you'll need the Community option (in the top menu) then Members | 13:19 |
| jelkner | ah yes | 13:19 |
| jelkner | there we go | 13:19 |
| jelkner | i can see how important groups are going to be | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:19 |
| jelkner | we will want stories like "Group members should be able to see information about other folks in their group" | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah yes | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and we will want to remove options people don't have permissions for in our theme | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Tendenci has the same problem SchoolTool had | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, where you give users electric shocks | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, telling them they're not authorized to do some things | 13:21 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, no electric shocks please! | 13:44 |
| jelkner | ;-) | 13:44 |
| jelkner | email just sent | 13:44 |
| jelkner | let me know if it looks ok | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, looks great | 13:46 |
| jelkner | cool | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | helios here we go! | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | :) | 13:47 |
| jelkner | yes, indeed! | 13:47 |
| jelkner | we should get marco to work with you on that | 13:47 |
| jelkner | i mean mjsir911 | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 13:48 |
| jelkner | it is the kind of thing that i think would interest him | 13:48 |
| replaceafill | the more we spread our knowledge of all of this the better | 13:48 |
| jelkner | yes | 13:48 |
| jelkner | and it offers a lot of possible integration with our math project at school | 13:49 |
| jelkner | the mathematics of voting is fascinating | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | "do you want a quiz today? vote at http://..." | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | :D | 13:49 |
| jelkner | we had a guest speaker at our last our revolution arlington meeting talk about preference voting | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | the math and the crytpo of helios is fascinating | 13:50 |
| jelkner | ah yes, both | 13:50 |
| jelkner | so i know or arlington folks are going to be excited about that | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | good timing for the talk :) | 13:50 |
| jelkner | yes indeed | 13:51 |
| jelkner | it is not pure coincidence | 13:51 |
| jelkner | you know i have been saying voting is going to be important for a long time | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | i do | 13:51 |
| jelkner | but the reason i suggested it *right now* is in part because of the talk | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | momentum! | 13:52 |
| jelkner | yup | 13:52 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, email me if you need anything | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, will do, will probably ping you when i have something on the new theme | 13:53 |
| jelkner | i need to go do some teacher stuff for the rest of the day and then out with an old friend this evening | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or the deployment of all of this | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, have a good weekend | 13:53 |
| jelkner | you too, my dear friend! | 13:53 |
| jelkner | this really is too cool! | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | big +1 | 13:53 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 13:54 |
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