IRC log of #novawebdev for Friday, 2018-03-23

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replaceafillgood morning jelkner11:04
jelknerGood morning, replaceafill11:07
jelknerclass is about to start11:07
jelknerso i'll need to ping you back when i have a moment11:07
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:07
jelknerping replaceafill 11:38
replaceafilljelkner, pong11:39
jelknerwhat did you and daniela decide on how to translate "Northern Virginia Latino Civil Rights Organization"?11:39
replaceafilljelkner, let me fwd11:40
jelknerbtw, NOVA is not a state, but i think you noticed that11:40
jelknerand just for your interest11:40
replaceafilljelkner, right11:40
jelknerVirginia is divided into two parts: NOVA and ROVA11:40
replaceafilljelkner, i think she agrees11:40
jelknerwe will go with what you sent11:41
jelkneraren't you going to ask me what "ROVA" stands for?11:41
replaceafilljelkner, what does "ROVA" stand for? :)11:42
jelknerACTION imagines replaceafill trying to google "ROVA"11:42
replaceafilljelkner, i just did11:42
jelknerit stands for "the Rest of Virginia"11:42
replaceafilljelkner, "rest of virginia"11:43
replaceafilljelkner, ah11:43
replaceafilljelkner, never had heard of that11:43
jelknerit is actually an insult11:43
replaceafilljelkner, oh11:43
jelknerthere is a great deal of cultural and political conflict between the two regions11:43
jelknerNoVa is rich11:43
jelknerRoVa is poor11:43
replaceafilljelkner, wow "In NoVa, they listen to NPR. In RoVa, they listen to the NRA."11:43
jelknerNoVa is multicultural11:44
jelknerRoVa represents the white / black population of the old confederacy11:44
jelknerNoVa is Blue (Democratic party)11:44
jelknerRoVa is Red (Republican party)11:45
replaceafilljelkner, got it11:45
jelkneri'm just telling you this so you have some context11:45
replaceafilljelkner, thanks!11:45
replaceafilljelkner, today i learned11:45
jelknersince our business is rooted in NoVa and it will be of value to you11:46
replaceafilljelkner, indeed11:46
jelknerok, as soon as zOnny arrives11:46
jelkneri'll talk to him about the NOVALACIRO updates11:46
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:47
replaceafilljelkner, i plan to meet with him at 4 pm11:47
jelknerbut the two of us will be working together tomorrow from 10 am to 5 pm on that11:47
replaceafilljelkner, to catch him up on the whole new process11:47
replaceafilljelkner, i'll try to come up online tomorrow at least for a bit11:47
jelknerwho can do the AEA update?11:47
replaceafilljelkner, i think mr_german should11:47
jelknerme too11:47
replaceafilljelkner, when do you need that AEA update?11:47
jelknerif he is working today11:47
jelknerwe need it today11:48
replaceafilljelkner, hhmm11:48
replaceafilljelkner, i'll call him11:48
jelknerthis is an unfolding political story11:48
replaceafilljelkner, he sometimes skips Fridays11:48
jelknertiming is crucial11:48
jelkneryou can see why a CMS is going to be needed11:48
replaceafilljelkner, indeed11:48
jelknerunion websites need to respond in real time11:48
jelknerok, let me know if mr_german can do it11:49
replaceafilljelkner, that text in the issue is a quote from Leslie?11:49
replaceafilljelkner, what about the * you included?11:49
jelknerits a foot note11:49
replaceafilljelkner, you want that right after Leslie's name?11:49
jelknerbelow it, you mean, yes?11:49
replaceafilljelkner, like you laid it out in the issue?11:49
replaceafilljelkner, yes11:49
replaceafilljelkner, ok11:49
replaceafilljelkner, if mr_german is unable to do it, i can do it11:50
jelkneri don't like to waste your time on things like this11:50
jelknerbut we have to be timely here11:50
replaceafilljelkner, i know, but this is crucial11:50
replaceafilljelkner, i'll call him right now11:50
jelknersay hi for me11:50
replaceafillwill do11:51
jelknerok, back to work for me11:51
jelknertalk to you soon11:51
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replaceafilljelkner, please check the AEA change12:13
replaceafilljelkner, i changed the "footnote" a bit12:13
replaceafilljelkner, not sure if you wrote it, but usually you try to avoid "click here" links12:13
replaceafillfor reference:
replaceafillHypertext links. Use text that makes sense when read out of context. For example, avoid "click here."12:14
replaceafilli've read somewhere "not everybody clicks on links"12:15
replaceafilland the AEA site has several "Click Here" links in the homepage :(12:15
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GFbothey replaceafill 13:24
GFbotI'm here13:24
replaceafillGFbot, cool13:24
replaceafillGFbot, want to meet now?13:24
jelknerthanks for aea update, replaceafill, looks great!13:26
replaceafilljelkner, cool13:26
replaceafilljelkner, have a few minutes to chat?13:26
jelkneri do13:26
replaceafilljelkner, i'd like to discuss pdf strategy13:26
replaceafilljelkner, so i've figure out how to generate pdfs from Tendenci now13:27
GFbotreplaceafill: ready!13:27
replaceafilljelkner, including images13:27
replaceafillGFbot, hold on, give me a few minutes13:27
jelknerdaniela has been doing research13:27
jelknerhold on13:27
replaceafilljelkner, so my question is: how do you plan to "print" the cards?13:27
jelknerWe are not sure yet.13:30
jelknerBut I am tasked with following up on this link she sent me.13:30
jelknerThat's on my ToDo list for tomorrow.13:30
replaceafilljelkner, ok13:31
replaceafilljelkner, so i can put the pdf generation on hold, right?13:31
replaceafilljelkner, until you figure out the way you want to do it13:32
replaceafilljelkner, cool13:32
jelkneryou're getting a bit ahead of us13:32
replaceafilljelkner, sorry...13:32
replaceafilljelkner, you told me to move!13:32
jelknernot at all, my friend!13:32
jelknerbut we need to decide on the tech13:32
jelknerand non of us have experience13:32
jelknerso we are researching13:32
replaceafilljelkner, right13:32
jelknerthat is top on my list tomorrow13:33
jelknerso i'll have more to say then13:33
replaceafilljelkner, cool13:33
replaceafilljelkner, that process in the video looks nice13:33
replaceafilljelkner, ok, i'll go back to dealing with the cms i18n then13:34
jelknerok, don't keep GFbot waiting ;-)13:34
replaceafilljelkner, glad we're making progress13:34
replaceafilljelkner, right13:34
replaceafillGFbot, ready?13:34
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jelknerlelkneralfaro, good afternoon13:34
jelknerACTION goes back to his day job ;-)13:36
lelkneralfarojelkner, good afternoon13:43
jelknerlelkneralfaro, we just keep getting better and better13:47
jelknermethinks our timing is good13:47
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jelknerwe are reaching the point where we can really deliver value in a timely way13:48
jelknerthe novalaciro process has been the best yet13:48
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jelknerreplaceafill, the language switching is slick!13:56
jelknerit operates so smoothly13:56
replaceafilljelkner, :)13:56
jelknervery impressive13:56
jelknerviejo lives again! ;-)13:57
replaceafilljelkner, :D13:58
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jelknerACTION signs off to go home15:04
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zOnnyzOnny start his Spring Break :) Hello Spring!15:07
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch15:08
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mr_germanreplaceafill, done*15:46
mr_germanreplaceafill, just one thing, I've couldn't remove "Company name" from the template15:47
mr_germanthe rest is done.15:47
mr_germanI'll back a 5:30 or 6 pm *our time*15:51
mr_germansee you then15:51
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zOnnyhey replaceafill16:02
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douglasHe zOnny16:12
douglasImproponible running late16:13
douglasLol 16:13
douglasAutocorrect 16:13
douglaszOnny ill be home in 20 see u then 16:14
replaceafillhey zOnny16:29
zOnnyhey replaceafill16:29
replaceafillzOnny, do you need to discuss anything today?16:30
zOnnyI just started to testing today, replaceafill16:32
replaceafillzOnny, ok, i need to check some work for mr_german16:33
replaceafillzOnny, let me know if you have questions16:33
zOnnysure , replaceafill16:33
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jelknerreplaceafill, quick favor16:44
replaceafilljelkner, yes?16:44
jelknerthe link i gave you this morning no longer points to the right video16:44
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok16:44
jelknerthis one does16:44
replaceafilljelkner, the timestamps don't match anymore, right?16:46
replaceafilljelkner, should i remove them?16:46
jelknerlet me check16:46
jelknerJosh Folb: 29:4316:50
jelknerlooks like 8 min 34 seconds difference16:53
jelknerlet me check the others16:53
replaceafilljelkner, ^16:55
jelknerthat's it16:55
replaceafilljelkner, changing16:56
jelknerthanks, man!16:56
jelknerleslie just emailed me about this16:56
jelknerglad to know people are looking16:57
jelknerat the site16:57
replaceafilljelkner, site updated17:03
replaceafilljelkner, youtube allows you to set timestamps directly in the link17:04
replaceafilljelkner, so i did that...17:04
jelkneryou rock!!!17:04
replaceafilljelkner, np17:04
replaceafilljelkner, glad to see the faces of the people we (you) relate with17:04
jelknerit was a large turnout17:05
jelknervery effective17:05
jelknerthanks, man17:05
replaceafilljelkner, sure17:05
replaceafilljelkner, out of curiousity, how long have you been a teacher?17:07
jelknersince 199117:08
replaceafilljelkner, ah17:08
jelknerthree years before i discovered software freedom ;-)17:08
replaceafilljelkner, right at the start of python (almost) too17:08
jelkneractually, i came python in 199917:09
jelknerit was gcc that lead me to free software17:09
jelkneri enrolled in a grad school cs program17:09
jelknerand we were using gcc on a VAX system17:09
replaceafilljelkner, :S17:09
replaceafilljelkner, i remember *reading* about VAX17:10
jelknercurious, i wanted to see if could run it on a pc17:10
jelknerand i found out about the GPL17:10
replaceafilljelkner, :D17:10
jelknerand then GNU/Linux17:10
jelknerand never looked back! ;-)17:10
replaceafilljelkner, you should have had :P17:10
replaceafilljelkner, you missed a lot of windows!!!17:10
jelkneryeah, right17:11
replaceafilljelkner, 95, 98, Me (didn't count), NT, XP, and the rest don't count either17:11
jelknerin a world without walls and fences, we don't need windows and gates17:11
replaceafilljelkner, :D17:11
jelkneralthough ironically it is apple that is the biggest evil these days17:12
jelknerM$ is actually playing nice by comparision17:12
replaceafilljelkner, damn smart devices!17:12
jelkneri have my ubuntu phone17:13
jelknerand i'm liking it17:13
jelkneri hope it lasts17:13
jelknermjsir911 is porting librifox over to it17:13
jelknerand then we have other plans17:13
replaceafilljelkner, i got really disappointed with my Firefox OS experience :(17:13
jelkneri loved firefox os17:14
jelkneri really wish that project lived17:14
replaceafilljelkner, me too, but was never able to even upgrade it, not too much support17:14
jelkneryes, they never built a large enough community to sustain it17:14
jelknerlet's see what happens with ubports17:15
replaceafilljelkner, right17:15
jelknerstay tuned...17:15
jelknerlooks promising17:15
jelknerand as i've mentioned before, my two greatest strengths are17:15
jelknerthat i'm stupid and stubborn17:15
replaceafilljelkner, :D17:15
replaceafilljelkner, dangerous combination ;)17:16
jelknerso i'll keep coming back until something makes it17:16
jelknerwhich will happen eventually17:16
jelknerok, my friend17:16
jelkneri'm going back to work on the book17:16
replaceafilljelkner, kk17:16
replaceafilljelkner, ttyl17:16
jelknerhasta manyana17:17
jelknerACTION signs off for the day17:17
replaceafillzOnny, you around?18:40
zOnnyyep , replaceafill18:50
zOnnyhave checked the nav of my server ? replaceafill18:50
zOnnyhave you ?18:50
replaceafillzOnny, no18:51
replaceafillzOnny, what is the difference?18:51
zOnnyget as an admin you will see replaceafill18:51
replaceafillzOnny, don't know the admin password18:52
zOnnyname of the project replaceafill :(18:52
replaceafillzOnny, ah thanks18:53
replaceafillzOnny, oh!!!!18:53
replaceafillzOnny, it's a real navbar!18:53
replaceafillzOnny, awesome!18:53
zOnnybut I need to clean up more , replaceafill18:53
replaceafillzOnny, expect jelkner to complain about the "Edit Nav" links :)18:54
zOnnywell, How should it looks like ? replaceafill18:55
replaceafillzOnny, you're the designer in this case :D18:55
replaceafillzOnny, we will have a similar problem with boxes18:56
zOnnynot anymore , i am starting to like the back end a bit more replaceafill18:56
replaceafillzOnny, Tendenci uses "Edit ..." links by default18:56
replaceafillzOnny, at some point we can add icons18:57
replaceafillzOnny, once we figure out how to use pages and boxes and navs a bit more18:57
zOnnythat is a good idea replaceafill18:59
zOnnyyou mean icons next to Edit links right ? replaceafill19:03
replaceafillzOnny, no idea19:03
replaceafillzOnny, i'm not sure what's best19:03
replaceafillzOnny, we should ask either Daniela or Natalia about that19:03
replaceafillzOnny, but the change should be simple19:04
replaceafillzOnny, just some template or css19:04
zOnnyok , replaceafill19:05
zOnnyI will try to change the page content replacaefill19:05
replaceafillzOnny, page content?19:06
replaceafillzOnny, you mean using a box?19:06
zOnnyyou requested that everthing should be cms right ? replaceafill19:06
replaceafillzOnny, if you mean a box, yes19:06
replaceafillzOnny, in the homepage for the mission part19:06
zOnnyok , replaceafill19:07
replaceafillzOnny, Programs, Issues, etc should be separate pages too19:07
zOnny:S 19:08
zOnnyI don't get that replaceafill19:09
replaceafillzOnny, /pages/add19:09
replaceafillzOnny, but you can hold on that19:10
replaceafillzOnny, it's better to start styling /pages/search19:10
zOnnyuntil next year :)19:10
replaceafillzOnny, if your clients allows you to...19:10
zOnnyI have a question  replaceafill19:13
replaceafillzOnny, yes?19:13
zOnnyadmin navbar should be separated from the main-nav ? replaceafill19:13
replaceafillzOnny, what do you mean by "admin navbar"?19:14
zOnnythat nav-bar that you deployed in the nea4or replaceafill19:14
replaceafillzOnny, hm?19:15
zOnnytop-nav-bar replacaefill19:15
replaceafillzOnny, i don't understand what you're referring to19:16
replaceafillzOnny, oh, that's the creative theme in Tendenci19:17
replaceafillzOnny, the tendenci 2018 theme has a similar one19:18
zOnnybut that can have a better style if you want to display as it is replaceafill19:18
replaceafillzOnny, but they're not navbars (objects)19:18
replaceafillzOnny, iirc19:18
zOnnyobjects ? ok replaceafill19:18
replaceafillzOnny, i mean, like the ones you just added to your testing site19:19
replaceafillzOnny, they don't come from /admin/navs19:19
replaceafillzOnny, like yours19:19
replaceafillzOnny, they're part of the theme19:19
zOnnyah never mind so , replaceafill19:20
replaceafillzOnny, that's what you're looking for19:22
replaceafillzOnny, if you check the base.html templates of both themes you'll see the top_menu/* templates being included19:23
replaceafillzOnny, it's a separate machinery19:24
zOnnyyep, I broke it before replaceafill19:25
replaceafillzOnny, it'd be awesome if you could reuse that in our themes19:25
replaceafillzOnny, i decided to go with a simple approach for ORA19:26
replaceafillzOnny, and just add a list with administrative links19:26
replaceafillzOnny, but the top_menu approach is way more flexible19:26
replaceafillzOnny, so feel free to experiment with it19:26
zOnnyI was trying to combine with my css but I decided skip it for a while, replaceafill19:26
replaceafillzOnny, until next year? ;)19:26
zOnnyuntil my spring break :)19:27
replaceafillwooooooohooooooooooooo touchdown!!!!!!!!19:39
replaceafillwe have translatable tendenci pages boys!19:40
zOnnyyour biligual part is that which I saw in the cms doc ? replaceafill19:45
replaceafillzOnny, more or less19:45
replaceafillzOnny, that's not tested19:45
replaceafillzOnny, i was just brainstorming19:45
replaceafillzOnny, so don't take it as a procedure yet19:45
replaceafillzOnny, that's what i expect to do tomorrow19:46
replaceafillzOnny, so you can adjust your instances19:46
replaceafillzOnny, but i needed it working first19:46
replaceafillzOnny, which it is now!!!!!!!!!19:46
replaceafillzOnny, you'll have a lot of work styling these forms!19:46
zOnnyyep that was a big hit for what we want to offer , replaceafill19:48
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mr_germanhey replaceafill 19:53
replaceafillhey mr_german19:53
replaceafillmr_german, can you hang out?19:53
mr_germandid you see my changes?19:53
replaceafillmr_german, yes19:54
replaceafillmr_german, i'd like to go through them in a screenshare19:54
replaceafillmr_german, just to make sure you tested everything19:54
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