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| jelkner | mjsir911, what are you doing here? | 09:40 |
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| mjsir911 | automatically logs me on when I open my laptop | 09:40 |
| jelkner | aren't you supposed to be gazing out in awe of the Grand Canyon? | 09:40 |
| mjsir911 | its 6:30 local time :P | 09:40 |
| jelkner | ah | 09:40 |
| jelkner | true | 09:40 |
| jelkner | i took at a documentary video on the Grand Canyon in your honor | 09:41 |
| jelkner | i plan to watch it tonight | 09:41 |
| jelkner | enjoy | 09:41 |
| jelkner | see you in april | 09:41 |
| mjsir911 | thanks | 09:41 |
| mjsir911 | yea | 09:41 |
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| replaceafill | good morning lelkneralfaro | 10:53 |
| jelkner | good morning replaceafill! | 10:56 |
| jelkner | zOnny and i are here at ACC | 10:56 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 10:57 |
| jelkner | please let us know when you have some time today to chat with us | 10:57 |
| jelkner | we are here until 5:30 pm | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm sending lelkneralfaro an email | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my internet is a potato today | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, since last night actually | 10:57 |
| jelkner | at potato? | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm using my phone data plan right now | 10:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it doesn't work | 10:57 |
| jelkner | ahh | 10:57 |
| jelkner | more reason why irc is so useful! | 10:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think we can chat | 10:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, now | 10:58 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:58 |
| jelkner | first, a brief update | 10:58 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro and i were making a family visit to celina yesterday | 10:58 |
| jelkner | and we were chatting with her about the website the city is looking to contract for | 10:59 |
| jelkner | we can't be part of that because it would be a conflict of interest | 10:59 |
| jelkner | (and we are not ready) | 10:59 |
| jelkner | but when heard what they were asking for, and how much they were looking to spend | 11:00 |
| jelkner | (in the neighborhood of 30K) | 11:00 |
| jelkner | it made me believe there is hope for us! | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:00 |
| jelkner | on the immediate front, great strides have been made with NOVALACIRO | 11:01 |
| jelkner | now i want to get nea4or going as soon as possible | 11:01 |
| jelkner | we should switch that to a CMS | 11:01 |
| jelkner | our CMS | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and make sure it is ready in time for the VEA convention april 19 | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i attended a meeting on sunday where Our Revolution president Nina Turner spoke | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i went up to the mike at the end of the session and mentioned that i was active with my union and that we had a convention coming up in april | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, advertising :) | 11:03 |
| jelkner | i was asking for stuff for our table, but she went further, suggesting the national office might be able to send someone down be at the table! | 11:04 |
| jelkner | this is a great opportunity for us to make a good impression on the national office | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i hope to get 50+ new members at the convention | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so we really need to get the website ready soon | 11:05 |
| jelkner | this isn't a new request | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it isn't | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me know when you're done :) | 11:07 |
| jelkner | o | 11:07 |
| jelkner | ACTION is finished | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think much of this depends on zOnny's ability to switch context efficiently | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i noticed zOnny reacted a bit overwhelmed to my latest novalaciro issue | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, which is several tasks in a single issue | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my plan was to move ORA a bit this week after getting novalaciro stable | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, did you see my help-files email? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i saw it, but i didn't look at in in detail | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, please check them when you have a chance | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i've got my hands full with novalacior and nea4or | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'd like your input on that approach | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, which could be useful for the other sites | 11:09 |
| jelkner | i was hoping lelkneralfaro would pay attention to that one | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i'm stretched too thin | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, any feedback is welcome really | 11:10 |
| jelkner | ok | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so what should be the process for nea4or | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we agreed you would be calling the theming shots there | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what do you need me to do? | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the cms is already there, we just need the theme to take advantage of it | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and zOnny already understands the concepts of pages, navigation bars and boxes | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, he hasn't used them much, but i *think* he understands how to use them in his themes | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, please confirm/deny this | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure what to do about the theme | 11:13 |
| jelkner | it looks good as it is | 11:13 |
| zOnny | I was joking replaceafill the issue is good enough for me | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'm not asking for changes to that | 11:13 |
| jelkner | only convert from php to tencenci | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and make the login screen and user info look good | 11:14 |
| jelkner | i can work closely with zOnny on this | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | since i see him most every daty | 11:14 |
| jelkner | day | 11:14 |
| jelkner | as soon as i feel the site is ready, i'm going to reach out to rand about an email blast | 11:14 |
| jelkner | to ask folks to sign up | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so what should be my role? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i guess just be there to back up zOnny, yes? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | the next two weeks is the goal for having that in place | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm always am :) | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i understand | 11:16 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:16 |
| jelkner | in fact, i'd like to say april 7th | 11:16 |
| jelkner | since april 8th daniela will be starting to sign up members for novalaciro | 11:16 |
| zOnny | definitelly this guy cannot do too much without his teacher replaceafill | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you can | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you really can work on your own now | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll be here to answer questions | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you've got the skills now | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can we go back to novalaciro for a bit | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and enumerate what's left | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, have you decided on the email addresses? | 11:18 |
| zOnny | not yet replaceafill I need to clean up a bit my mistakes | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we all have to :) | 11:18 |
| zOnny | I mean do everything without the Doc's replaceafill | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why? "use your brain for ideas, not for remembering things" | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, still there? | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i am | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | <replaceafill> jelkner, have you decided on the email addresses? | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that is novalaciro email addresses | 11:21 |
| jelkner | what do you mean "decided"? | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, which inboxes you will need to be forwarded to who? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | we will want / need novalaciro.org email addresses | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i don't understand the best way to do this | 11:22 |
| jelkner | what we did for our own organization is connect it to our gmail accounts | 11:22 |
| jelkner | in the long term, i want to get away from google | 11:22 |
| jelkner | but i'm not sure what the options are | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm not sure what you mean by "connect" | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you mean jus fordwarding? | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | just* | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like what we do with novawebdevelopment.org | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | ? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | so, i want folks to be able to email the board and daniela (especially daniela) @novalaciro.org | 11:24 |
| jelkner | and i want her (and the rest of us to be able to receive those emails and reply to them | 11:24 |
| jelkner | and initiate our own emails to other people from those addresses | 11:25 |
| jelkner | the question is, how best to do that? | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i need to understand this clearly | 11:25 |
| jelkner | what isn't clear? | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you want something like our suppor@novawebdevelopment.org address? | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, one address that goes to multiple people at the same time? | 11:25 |
| jelkner | that isn't my top priority | 11:26 |
| jelkner | but it would be useful | 11:26 |
| jelkner | depends on the cost | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or do you need daniela@novalaciro.org to go to *her* personal account | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, then jeff@novalaciro.org that goes to yours and so on | 11:26 |
| jelkner | the latter is the top priority | 11:26 |
| jelkner | yes, what you just said is more important | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so *individual* novalaciro.org for board members and daniela | 11:27 |
| jelkner | though we may want the other feature later, it is YAGNI at present | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is that correct? | 11:27 |
| jelkner | yes, that is correct | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so the question becomes | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you want daniela@novalaciro.org | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, daniela.lastname@novalaciro.org? | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and what others do you need? | 11:28 |
| jelkner | or perhaps, outreach@novalaciro.org | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, just for her? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i wish i could be more clear about what i want | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i just don't understand this well enough | 11:29 |
| jelkner | we had an outreach@bravotenants.org address | 11:29 |
| jelkner | it was used by our staff outreach coordinator | 11:30 |
| jelkner | and was done through google for nonprofits | 11:30 |
| jelkner | she used it for many accounts | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, many accounts? | 11:30 |
| jelkner | bank account, business contracts, etc. | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 11:30 |
| jelkner | when she left | 11:30 |
| jelkner | i was able to take it over | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, got it | 11:31 |
| jelkner | so we didn't loose access to those accounts | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, got it | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's the case "person left, email doesnt" | 11:31 |
| jelkner | exactly | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | leaves* | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well there's two ways of doing that | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we do our own IMAP mailboxes, already set up | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or we create a new gmail account and redirect to it | 11:32 |
| jelkner | so, let me ask you about this | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like our support@novawebdevelopment.org going to novawebdevelopment@gmail.com | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, several people can access to novawebdevelopment@gmail.com | 11:33 |
| jelkner | i get that | 11:33 |
| jelkner | but is relies on the evil corporation | 11:33 |
| jelkner | and we want to break away from the evil corporations whenever we can | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, in the IMAP mailbox situation, each person that needs access has to set up their client, that's all | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, use protonmail as alternative? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | that's the part i need your advice on | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, proton? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | how much of a pain in the arse is it to run your own email these days? | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, we've been suffering because i have no idea how to do it | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and even people who do | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like the mayfirst.org guys | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sometimes get blacklist trouble | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's one of those services you wish you didn't have to maintain :) | 11:35 |
| jelkner | could we use mayfirst? | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, maybe, i don't know much about their membership, etc | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, what's the process to use their infrastructure | 11:36 |
| jelkner | i can find that out | 11:36 |
| jelkner | our goal should be to find a provider who: | 11:37 |
| jelkner | 1. is part of the platform cooperative movement as much as possible | 11:37 |
| jelkner | 2. provides a solid service | 11:37 |
| jelkner | 3. doen't completely break the bank | 11:38 |
| jelkner | perhaps we should ask micky metts about that before we decide | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 11:38 |
| jelkner | i'll write to her | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm almost sure she'll recommend them :) | 11:38 |
| jelkner | in the current climate of facebook / cambridge analytics news | 11:39 |
| jelkner | this story of corporations and our data will be important | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://support.mayfirst.org/search?q=blacklist | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and it won't go away | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, indeed | 11:39 |
| jelkner | the commidification of data is what we are fighting | 11:39 |
| jelkner | so we should be on top of it as much as we can be | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let's ask Micky | 11:40 |
| jelkner | i will email her today | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 11:40 |
| jelkner | let me get back to work if i may | 11:40 |
| jelkner | i have emails to write, invoices, bank tranfers and other such things to do today | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, so back to ORA for me? and i'll let you and zOnny ping me when you need my help with NEA4OR | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, makes sense? | 11:41 |
| jelkner | as well as looking into purchasing the hardware for printing id cards | 11:41 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you need to duplicate man! | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | :D | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, i'll let you go | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks a lot! | 11:41 |
| jelkner | later gater | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | o/ | 11:42 |
| jelkner | btw. one other thing before i go | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | i'll be able to read/answer emails through the day, i'm not sure how long i'll stay in IRC | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes? | 11:42 |
| jelkner | fine | 11:42 |
| jelkner | i'm planning on writing to dr. richard wolf | 11:42 |
| jelkner | at democracy at work | 11:42 |
| jelkner | https://www.democracyatwork.info/ | 11:43 |
| jelkner | they are using nationbuider for their website | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | "Created with NationBuilder" :) | 11:44 |
| jelkner | and it also looks like they are having issues as well, since the "submit a question" interface is "temporarily not working" | 11:44 |
| jelkner | once it is working, here is the question i will submit to him: | 11:44 |
| jelkner | What role does the privatization of knowledge play in the capitalist system? | 11:44 |
| jelkner | with the more extended field below containing: | 11:45 |
| jelkner | How does the use of copyright and patents to commodify the ideas expressed in software or patents to privatize the evolutionary knowledge expressed in genetic sequences found in nature function within the system of capitalism? In a related question, as we strive to create democracy at work, shouldn't we be using the people's software (free and open source software) to build our new society? | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i wish i'd write like you :) | 11:46 |
| jelkner | We need to get that "The people's movement should be using the people's software" message on our website | 11:46 |
| jelkner | it resonates with folks | 11:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we should convert our website! | 11:46 |
| jelkner | people keep telling me they like it | 11:46 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and of april, yes? | 11:47 |
| jelkner | end of april | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the two mottos we have are awesome | 11:47 |
| jelkner | we do | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think end of april is a good target for that | 11:47 |
| jelkner | let's get through april upgrading our customer sites | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 11:47 |
| jelkner | and make may the month of getting our own website ready for pushing out to the world actively | 11:47 |
| jelkner | cool, i'll let you go | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, thanks again | 11:48 |
| jelkner | thank you! | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ping me here or email me if you need something, ok? | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | oh it seems like our connection is back | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | ACTION switches, brb | 11:48 |
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| zOnny | well , replaceafill | 11:54 |
| zOnny | I have read that we want start changing nea4org ? | 12:03 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, yes, that should be the plan | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and nea4or doesn't need to be translatable | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you can go ahead and start doing that | 12:07 |
| zOnny | btw what should be Done? replaceafill | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hm? | 12:12 |
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| replaceafill | hey GFbot | 12:13 |
| GFbot | Hello! | 12:13 |
| GFbot | hey replaceafill | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, any progress on the gear menu? | 12:13 |
| GFbot | yes | 12:14 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, need to talk with you about that | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, here or hang out? | 12:14 |
| GFbot | hang | 12:14 |
| GFbot | but | 12:15 |
| GFbot | give me 5 mins | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, cool | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, let me know when you're ready | 12:23 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, | 12:23 |
| GFbot | ready! | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, look at this beauty: http://book.schooltool.org/_images/gradebook-7.png | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, (puke) | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, :) | 12:47 |
| GFbot | lol | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, not even a f***ing cursor: pointer | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | :'( | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | good times | 12:48 |
| GFbot | the "save" button is next to the border | 12:48 |
| GFbot | lol | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | >:( | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, here it is!!! this is the problem i was telling you about: http://book.schooltool.org/_images/score-system-1.png | 12:50 |
| GFbot | oh, I see | 12:51 |
| GFbot | well, step by step | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, sure | 12:51 |
| GFbot | i'll try to get this first | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, +1 | 12:51 |
| GFbot | brb | 13:15 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | hey zOnny | 13:49 |
| zOnny | https://imgur.com/a/c2Aan what I am missing ? replaceafill | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, missing? | 13:52 |
| zOnny | to sync git in my server replaceafill | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, how did you set that up? | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you follow a doc? | 13:55 |
| zOnny | seems that I didn't get the nea4or repo right ? replaceafill | 13:55 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION 's connection drop dead again, back to phone | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you rename /opt/zOnny/nea4or to /opt/zOnny/NEA4OR? | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why don't you just go to themes and rename the nea4or to old-nea4or | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and git clone the them repo again? | 14:03 |
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| zOnny | yep replaceafill | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it seems like you can't rename the path to a git repo | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, today i learned :O | 14:05 |
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| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, you there? | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, on phone connection though | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but stable :) | 14:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay good :) | 14:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I just spoke with German about the changes that Stephanie has requested | 14:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | my dad has suggested that we should set up the CMS for them, like I we spoke about during out meeting | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so I was thinking that we should hold off on making content changes until we offer them the CMS | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we should, yes | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, because if we can set up the CMS they can make the changes themselves | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you mean, until you meet with them? | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, what do you think? | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, or do you mean porting the current site to the CMS? | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I mean that instead of making the content changes that they requested, we set up the CMS | 14:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and they do it themselves | 14:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, if that makes sense | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you mean set up the CMS and port the current content to it, yes i agree | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and it makes sense | 14:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, what do you mean port? | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i can set up tendenci today | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i won't look like their site | 14:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, sorry I should have asked for clarification the first time | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it won't have any of the pages they have, etc | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that's porting | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, maybe there's a better term for it :S | 14:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, is porting making the new site look like their original? | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | replaceafill, correct | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | ooks | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes, correct | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | :) | 14:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, alright. And is that a fairly long project? | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, they want to explore a new design though, right? | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes that is true | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but a custom theme takes a while | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it does | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, last week we talked about setting up the stock tendenci theme | 14:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, for new customers, and to provide them with tendenci features | 14:12 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, this one: http://172.104.19.176:10000/ | 14:12 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ? | 14:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, i think so | 14:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, actually can we hangout again? | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i don't have a problem | 14:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, in 5 minutes? | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i can call you if you want | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i don't think this connection will support voice | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ping me when you want me to call you | 14:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay. give me just a few minutes then | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, oh connection is back | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | ACTION switches | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | brb | 14:14 |
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| lelkneralfaro | okay ready | 14:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i'll call your cell, the lag doesn't look promising | 14:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | okay sounds good | 14:17 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, are you there | 14:27 |
| GFbot | ? | 14:27 |
| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 14:34 |
| GFbot | I think he's talking with lelkneralfaro | 14:35 |
| GFbot | hello good afternoon jelkner btw! | 14:35 |
| jelkner | good afternoon, GFbot! | 14:35 |
| jelkner | actually, i'm trying to reach nrcerna | 14:36 |
| jelkner | that's what i was pinging replaceafill about | 14:36 |
| GFbot | oh | 14:36 |
| jelkner | i want to ask her to design an id card for novalaciro | 14:36 |
| jelkner | do you have her number? | 14:37 |
| GFbot | yes | 14:37 |
| GFbot | and her fb | 14:37 |
| GFbot | if you want I can tell her | 14:38 |
| jelkner | that would be great | 14:38 |
| GFbot | give me a moment | 14:38 |
| GFbot | jelkner, I just talked with her, she told me if you can send her an email about what you need for the ID card | 14:43 |
| jelkner | i was going to do that, but since i have some questions about what she would need, i was hoping to chat with her | 14:44 |
| jelkner | i'll email her to setup an irc appointment | 14:44 |
| jelkner | thanks, GFbot | 14:44 |
| GFbot | you're welcome | 14:45 |
| GFbot | jelkner | 14:45 |
| GFbot | 14:46 | |
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| nrcerna | Hi | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 14:48 |
| GFbot | welcome back replaceafill | 14:48 |
| GFbot | I was waiting for you | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | ty ty | 14:48 |
| GFbot | ;-) | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, yes? | 14:49 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, http://172.104.19.176:27960/events/16/ | 14:49 |
| nrcerna | mr_german just told me you want to talk with me jelkner | 14:49 |
| GFbot | test it | 14:49 |
| nrcerna | Hello replaceafill ;-) | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | hey nrcerna | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, testing... | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, you should make it look like a button | 14:50 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, like it was | 14:50 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, see gmail's | 14:50 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, oh, ok | 14:50 |
| GFbot | ACTION was thinking about NEA | 14:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, hm? NEA? | 14:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, oh you mean the old theme | 14:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, right | 14:51 |
| GFbot | yeah | 14:51 |
| nrcerna | ??? | 14:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, i think even tendenci2018 does it like that i can't remember | 14:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, lines look good | 14:52 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, i assume the drop effect is a css animation? | 14:52 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, i'd make it shorter | 14:52 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, is Jquery | 14:53 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, hi! | 14:53 |
| jelkner | i just emailed you | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, :S | 14:53 |
| GFbot | SlideDown, SlideUp | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, expensive ;) | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, ok, i think you can customize those times | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, why didn't you use css? | 14:53 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, idk | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, faster development time? | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, it's ok | 14:53 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, but, i can use CSS | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, just find out how to adjust the animate | 14:54 |
| GFbot | ? | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, don't worry about it | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, it's not that important | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, priorities ;) | 14:54 |
| GFbot | could you refresh | 14:54 |
| GFbot | the page | 14:54 |
| GFbot | ? | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, oh yes, that's better | 14:54 |
| nrcerna | Got it! I'm available at 10:00 am | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, could you test it here: http://172.104.19.176:27960/events/2018/3/1/ | 14:55 |
| GFbot | ok | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, put jelkner in your comments so he can see you talking | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, like "jelkner, I'm available..." | 14:56 |
| nrcerna | Oh...sure.! Thanks replaceafill | 14:56 |
| jelkner | hi nrcerna | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, jelkner even listens to music in his pc every time you do that ;?) | 14:56 |
| jelkner | lol | 14:56 |
| jelkner | did you see my email? | 14:56 |
| nrcerna | jelkner, I'm available at 10:am | 14:56 |
| jelkner | not now, right? | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, see how you can improve those options in that .event-info > .options block please | 14:57 |
| nrcerna | I'm about to going out for work jelkner , sorry. | 14:57 |
| jelkner | np | 14:57 |
| jelkner | 10 am thursday | 14:57 |
| jelkner | i'll add it to my calendar | 14:57 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can you be there then? | 14:57 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, where is it? | 14:57 |
| jelkner | it's a bit early for you | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, hold on | 14:58 |
| jelkner | i think we need nrcerna, replaceafill, and zOnny | 14:58 |
| nrcerna | Ok! I'll met you here jelkner and replaceafill | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, we're currently 2 hours behind Arlington | 14:58 |
| jelkner | would 10 am Eastern Time work for all of us? | 14:58 |
| nrcerna | Oh , and zOnny | 14:58 |
| jelkner | so it would be 8 am | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, so 10 for jelkner it's 8 am for us | 14:58 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, is that ok? | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nrcerna i can do 8 am | 14:58 |
| nrcerna | Yup, It works for me! | 14:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nrcerna zOnny cool thursday 10 am EST then | 14:59 |
| jelkner | perfect, we'll see you then | 14:59 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, in the day view | 14:59 |
| GFbot | oh ok | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, the three links on the right of each event | 15:00 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, I'll test it | 15:00 |
| nrcerna | See you then replaceafill , jelkner and zOnny ! ;-) | 15:00 |
| zOnny | ok it works for me | 15:00 |
| nrcerna | Bye! :D | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | see you nrcerna o/ | 15:00 |
| nrcerna | o/ | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, Print Edit More | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, theme those please | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, and use the gear functionality | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, good work | 15:01 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, work on your own branch! ;) | 15:01 |
| zOnny | one question replaceafill | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 15:04 |
| zOnny | to get rid of the .php files I most create a new pages right ? replaceafill | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, which .php files | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ? | 15:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner wants everything running in the CMS replaceafill | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, NEA4OR or NOVALACIRO? | 15:06 |
| zOnny | the nea4or replaceafill | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you don't need to get rid of anything | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you just need to add replacements | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you have a public NEA4OR instance? | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that you can point me to? | 15:07 |
| zOnny | http://172.104.19.176:7000/ public ? | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, great | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so that page is the homepage.html template, right? | 15:09 |
| zOnny | correct , replaceafill | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but i assume this is hardcoded html in the homepage.html, right? | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for instance this piece of text "Our nation is at a crossroads. As union" is in that template | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, right? | 15:10 |
| zOnny | that is only the homepage.html replaceafill | 15:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you get my point | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | ? | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, all the text i'm seeing comes FROM A HTML TEMPLATE | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, right? | 15:12 |
| zOnny | correct , replaceafill | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, makes sense so far | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the goal is not just to theme this | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is to start using boxes | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for example, that homepage | 15:13 |
| zOnny | got it , replaceafill | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, could use a box for the WELCOME ..... part until..... Pleas join us | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then the homepage.html template would replace all that html with {% box 1 %} | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, a django template tag that tendenci provides | 15:14 |
| zOnny | correct , replaceafill | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's taking advantage of the cms | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because you can point jelkner or whoever to the boxes administration | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and they can change the text | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, or add images, etc | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, makes sense? | 15:14 |
| zOnny | correct, replaceafill | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, users should be dealing with boxes, navs and pages | 15:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so for the top part, in the header | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you could use a navbar | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like your experiment with NOVALACIRO | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then you create a Page for Issues | 15:15 |
| zOnny | but once jelkner ask for rid of the .php I was assuimng make new templates replaceafill | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, no! | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we need to port things to the CMS | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, port things to the CMS means: convert into Tendenci pages, forms, boxes and navs | 15:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we need to move away from using html templates for content | 15:16 |
| zOnny | correct, replaceafill | 15:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's why we invested time in exploiring translation for novalaciro | 15:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because we need *content* to be translatable | 15:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, content = Tendenci pages, forms, boxes and navs | 15:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, :) | 15:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, from now on, the template should give you just the "layout" not the "content" | 15:17 |
| zOnny | so , I am going to include the boxes replaceafill | 15:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, +1 | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you should start by deleting the current boxes in your instance | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you really don't need any "stock" box or page or nav | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we also have some forums, memberships, groups and other things that the installation process makes you do | 15:20 |
| zOnny | but the issues, activities, contact us, how can I introduce boxes replaceafill | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but we really don't neeed | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, those become Pages | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you use boxes to a minimum in a few pages only | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you use a template + boxes when a Page is not enough | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i can help you cleaning your instance if you want | 15:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh i forgot to clean nea4or | 15:22 |
| zOnny | well , I think I am not clear at all in that part replaceafill | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, want to hang out? | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i think voice is faster in these cases | 15:25 |
| zOnny | if you do not mind replaceafill | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let me get my headset | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i lost you | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, can you hear me? | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i can't hear you | 15:40 |
| zOnny | no replaceafill | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, leave the call | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and let's start back | 15:40 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, well... I don't any idea how to do it there :( | 15:43 |
| GFbot | I'm trying to understand | 15:43 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, how to do what where? :) | 15:45 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, oh you mean in the day view | 15:46 |
| GFbot | add my button to "more" | 15:46 |
| GFbot | yeah | 15:46 |
| GFbot | :$ | 15:46 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, don't worry much about it | 15:47 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, what you have is good enough for now | 15:47 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, well.. i'll try to figure that out tonight | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, no need | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, can you put what you have in a branch? | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, and make sure it's clean :) | 15:52 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, sure | 15:52 |
| GFbot | should I remove the extra buttons from "When, Where"? | 15:52 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/tendenci-theme-ora/tree/gfbot/edit-button | 16:02 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, thanks, i'll take a look after having lunch | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h | 16:40 |
| GFbot | replaceafill, ok | 16:42 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 17:47 |
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