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| mr_german | good morning replaceafill, jelkner | 13:14 |
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| replaceafill | good morning mr_german | 13:14 |
| jelkner | it's not morning here, mr_german | 13:15 |
| jelkner | good afternoon ;-) | 13:15 |
| mr_german | oh, good afternoon jelkner | 13:15 |
| jelkner | mr_german, replaceafill will you be available at 4 pm EST today? | 13:16 |
| mr_german | jelkner, yes! | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 13:16 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez is coming in then, and it would be a good time to meet with her | 13:16 |
| jelkner | great! | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mr_german will do that | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll be around too | 13:16 |
| jelkner | awesome | 13:17 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, i added the "s" to "http" | 13:17 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure, np | 13:17 |
| jelkner | we are really moving, replaceafill | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yep | 13:18 |
| jelkner | aea, ora, nea4or | 13:18 |
| jelkner | novalaciro | 13:18 |
| jelkner | we are on track | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i really like the way we implemented the "sign up to talk" story for ORA | 13:18 |
| jelkner | it is a huge help having mike | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it is! | 13:19 |
| jelkner | the rest of the ora sc (including, saddly, yours truly) doesn't have the bandwidth to give enough attention to it | 13:19 |
| jelkner | but he does | 13:19 |
| jelkner | he has the skills and the focus | 13:20 |
| jelkner | and it is better that someone outside our coop is doing it anyway | 13:20 |
| jelkner | since we need to "reach out" | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, indeed | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's good to have feedback from outside too | 13:21 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:21 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, it really looks like i'll be back teaching python | 13:21 |
| jelkner | more and more | 13:21 |
| jelkner | i haven't done it since 2008 | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah nice | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no more php then? :D | 13:22 |
| jelkner | lol | 13:22 |
| jelkner | no more! | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we got rid of our last php site today! | 13:22 |
| jelkner | btw. check this out: https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP | 13:22 |
| jelkner | http://www.openbookproject.net/books/StudentCSP/ | 13:23 |
| jelkner | i'm remixing | 13:23 |
| jelkner | and with mjsir911 to help, it is a blast! | 13:23 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, back to work | 13:24 |
| jelkner | let's talk at 4 pm | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, ttyt | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you around? | 13:24 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, can we hang out? | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i just want to get in sync with the ORA work | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, briefly, i promise :) | 13:25 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, sure | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, https://smacss.com/ | 14:03 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, can you share me the doc | 14:20 |
| mr_german | with the pass for novalaciro | 14:20 |
| mr_german | :) | 14:21 |
| mr_german | username & password | 14:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, go to the "Server Inventory" spreadsheet | 14:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and look for the "Services Credentials" | 14:21 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, lol | 14:21 |
| mr_german | I was there | 14:21 |
| mr_german | thanks | 14:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, if you can't find any server or service credentials from there, please complain! | 14:22 |
| mr_german | ok | 14:22 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, it should be the time move our website to tendenci | 15:11 |
| mr_german | right? | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, yes | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but zOnny and nrcerna will do that beginning on may | 15:12 |
| mr_german | oh | 15:12 |
| mr_german | k | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb at 4 PM EST | 15:14 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 15:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, can you ping me please, I want to test something | 15:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, sure | 15:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ping | 15:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, oh, it works! | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ping | 16:00 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, thanks! | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, notifications? | 16:00 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yep | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, :) | 16:00 |
| mr_german | brb in 10 mins | 16:06 |
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| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | pong jelkner | 16:15 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez is here | 16:15 |
| hrodriguez | Hello replaceafill | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | hello hrodriguez | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, are you back? | 16:15 |
| jelkner | i told her she will be getting training on the novalaciro tool for this weekend | 16:15 |
| jelkner | she is here until 6 pm | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes, mr_german will be doing that | 16:16 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | let me call him | 16:16 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, aea hasn't been deployed yet, right? | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hrodriguez he says he'll be back shortly | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hm? | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what do you mean? | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh man! | 16:17 |
| hrodriguez | I'll be waiting! | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oops! | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my bad | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll work on that next | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, https://novalaciro.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, that's our instance for testing functionality for novalaciro | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, feel free to mess around with it | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, and break it | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, the administrative username and password are "admin" and "admin | 16:20 |
| hrodriguez | ah ah really | 16:20 |
| mr_german | ACTION is back | 16:20 |
| mr_german | hello hrodriguez :) | 16:20 |
| hrodriguez | Hi mr_german | 16:20 |
| mr_german | hrodriguez, I'm ready to start! | 16:20 |
| hrodriguez | I'm ready too | 16:21 |
| mr_german | do you want to hang out? | 16:21 |
| hrodriguez | how i should start? | 16:24 |
| hrodriguez | mr_german, | 16:24 |
| mr_german | I can call you via hang out | 16:24 |
| hrodriguez | perfect | 16:25 |
| mr_german | hrodriguez, just give me you email | 16:25 |
| mr_german | your* | 16:25 |
| hrodriguez | heylin.rodriguez.maldonado@gmail.com | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it seems we can't make the aea switch yet | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://members.aeava.org/ | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it seems like zOnny has only updated the content in the testing site https://aeava.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 16:33 |
| jelkner | arrrgg | 16:56 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, that's interesting | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yeah, it's a problem we have | 16:56 |
| jelkner | so cms changes in "testing" can't be moved to production | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, moving data from one version to the other | 16:57 |
| jelkner | that sucks | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, it can | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we just don't know how yet | 16:57 |
| jelkner | cool | 16:57 |
| jelkner | we need to learn that | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but usually you do the opposite | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you move data from production to testing | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not backwards | 16:57 |
| jelkner | but if you want to test before you deploy | 16:57 |
| jelkner | like we did here | 16:58 |
| jelkner | what are you supposed to do | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you put it under a "hidden" domain | 16:58 |
| jelkner | zope2 handled this workflow really beautifully | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what we did was really give zOnny something to break | 16:58 |
| jelkner | it had a nice draft mode | 16:58 |
| jelkner | that you would work on until you liked it | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cough... django cms... cough... | 16:58 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:58 |
| jelkner | i understand this stuff is a nightmare to write | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, again, our intention with testing is always "try and break" | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not "prepare and demo" | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i probably wasn't clear enough on that | 16:59 |
| jelkner | +1 | 17:00 |
| jelkner | zOnny did a bunch of work he didn't need to do | 17:00 |
| jelkner | and he will need to do again | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, even if i save him work, we need him around | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i can copy the database directly | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but that won't copy files, images, etc | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and even if i manage to do that (copying files), things might not look right according to his design | 17:01 |
| jelkner | so i'm really confused | 17:02 |
| jelkner | we can't fix the site until its deployed | 17:02 |
| jelkner | and we can't deploy it until its fixed | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hhmm how can i explain this... | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny's changes have been deployed to the future production server | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's the data that is not there yet | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, content | 17:03 |
| jelkner | where is "there"? | 17:03 |
| jelkner | on the future production server? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 17:03 |
| jelkner | oh, then this is an opportunity for hrodriguez to get practice | 17:04 |
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| replaceafill | there he is! | 17:04 |
| zOnny | Hello World! | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | hey zOnny | 17:05 |
| jelkner | under zOnny's tutelage, hrodriguez can add the content that is missing | 17:05 |
| jelkner | we will need to do that next week | 17:05 |
| jelkner | i hate to get a week behind | 17:05 |
| jelkner | but zOnny is going to SkillsUSA | 17:05 |
| jelkner | and hrodriguez will be knowing on door and using novalaciro's tendenci | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, why don't we team up mr_german and hrodriguez on it? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mr_german is free at the moment | 17:06 |
| jelkner | i don't want to overwhelm hrodriguez | 17:06 |
| jelkner | she has only 20 hours | 17:06 |
| jelkner | and she has a lot to do already | 17:06 |
| jelkner | let's focus on getting her ready for daniela and novalaciro | 17:06 |
| jelkner | and wait a week on aea | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 17:06 |
| jelkner | we are all heading to the VEA convention anyway | 17:07 |
| jelkner | so not much would happen this week | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't want to distract you, but i'm curious | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what was your plan with AEA content migration? | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you can't talk right now, that's fine | 17:07 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i notice testing looks really great | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but production doesn't | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, production is missing the content | 17:08 |
| jelkner | wait a second, replaceafill | 17:08 |
| zOnny | I can do it easily once I have everything in the dev replaceafill | 17:08 |
| jelkner | what is the difference between production and testing? | 17:09 |
| zOnny | do you want me to do that right know ? replaceafill | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, they are different servers | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, again, testing if for *development* | 17:09 |
| jelkner | yes, but we are going to point a domain at one of them | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, correc, to production | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | correct* | 17:09 |
| jelkner | why not just point aeava.org at the one that works? | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, because it has weak passwords | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and history | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and dummy data | 17:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION will shut up now, and let replaceafill do his thing | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if we can wait, we should | 17:10 |
| jelkner | anyway, i emailed keri and suggested we would come next wednesday or thursday | 17:10 |
| jelkner | if we can't make that, i need to tell her | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think we can | 17:11 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, once i finish the helios integration i can take care of this if needed | 17:11 |
| jelkner | +1 | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you're busy that's ok, we can wait | 17:12 |
| jelkner | zOnny just said "its easy for him" | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i just wanted to know if i wasn't clear on the roles of the two servers | 17:12 |
| jelkner | he can do it monday | 17:12 |
| zOnny | I can set it up replaceafill | 17:12 |
| jelkner | so no problem | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny cool | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny sounds like a plan | 17:12 |
| zOnny | I was wondering if they want it already in the prod | 17:12 |
| jelkner | i told replaceafill they said yes | 17:12 |
| jelkner | the are ready | 17:13 |
| jelkner | waiting for us | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, they gave the green light | 17:13 |
| zOnny | Let's do that now so replaceafill | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i have everything set in my side | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, once https://members.aeava.org/ looks good | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i just need to change the dns ip address | 17:14 |
| zOnny | ok replaceafill | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll be around, ping me if you get it done, ok? | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and thanks a lot for taking care of it | 17:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I need to push first the aeava_dev first right ? | 17:15 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, do you have pending changes? | 17:15 |
| zOnny | no replaceafill | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then you can switch to _prod and pull _dev from there | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that will merge them | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then you push _prod | 17:16 |
| zOnny | ok replaceafill | 17:16 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, are you there? | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, yes | 17:17 |
| mr_german | they have to show the site this weekend right? | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, they? what site? | 17:18 |
| mr_german | novalaciro | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, switch to spanish if you need | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, why do you ask? | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i don't understand the question | 17:19 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I'm asking if hrodriguez has to do the form again in the prod site | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, no, you are doing that for her | 17:20 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yeah but, in the dev intance | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, we just need her to understand how things work and be ready to use it | 17:20 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, for now, while she gets used to it | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, once she's well trained you'll give her the URL in production | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so she and Daniela can use it on the weekend | 17:21 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, sure I understood | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but you're setting everything up | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, please provide hrodriguez the admin credentials from production, ok? | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, hrodriguez we don't paste production credentials here btw ;) | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, hrodriguez we have shared docs for that | 17:23 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, done* | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, thanks | 17:26 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok, meeting is over with hrodriguez | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, great | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, what do you think? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, is that form helpful at all? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, do you think those fields are enough? | 17:28 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 17:29 |
| hrodriguez | For now i think it's fine replaceafill | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | hey zOnny | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | hrodriguez, cool | 17:29 |
| hrodriguez | yeah! thanks I think i got everything.. | 17:30 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, hrodriguez I'll be able to help if you need it, just send me an email | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, when are you setting up the "real" form? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, the production one | 17:31 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, can I call you | 17:31 |
| mr_german | ? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, give me a few minutes, i'm finishing something | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, or not... | 17:32 |
| hrodriguez | thanks mr_german | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:32 |
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| mr_german | you're welcome hrodriguez | 17:32 |
| zOnny | Hey replaceafill can you check this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/-/jobs/63762708 | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ouch, that's my fault | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let me fix it | 17:35 |
| zOnny | thanks replaceafill | 17:35 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the evening | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, retrying | 17:36 |
| zOnny | thanks replaceafill | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, done | 17:38 |
| zOnny | thanks replaceafill | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, hrodriguez is still around if you have questions | 17:40 |
| zOnny | do we have the aea's admin psswd | 17:42 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, have you seen the Server Inventory spreadsheet? | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ynkJmj3n5Ei3CfeX8tK-7P8ttNxq8HW6nCf6mtCxcE8/edit#gid=0 | 17:44 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yeah, I just talked with her | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, great, thanks a lot | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, use the Services Credentials column | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you don't find a shared password there, that's a bug and please report it :) | 17:45 |
| mr_german | ACTION signs off | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | later mr_german o/ | 17:45 |
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| zOnny | I am In replaceafill | 17:48 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 17:49 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: does really matter if a override the pages that tendenci provide ? | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hm? | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you mean "if you override"? | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, not really, as long as your theme doesn't rely on them | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you don't run fixtures ever again | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, tendenci fixtures* | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's the real danger | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, of reusing IDs | 18:02 |
| zOnny | exactly replaceafill | 18:02 |
| zOnny | I don't even know which has more validation id's or titles ? | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, validation? | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, database validation? | 18:03 |
| zOnny | I don't think that is the word for that | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, spanish? :) | 18:04 |
| zOnny | I mean if I resuse the id's but with a different titles | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that'll work | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why don't you add new objects? | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and delete the old ones? | 18:06 |
| zOnny | well that is a good question replaceafill | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you need specific id's that's a problem with the theme | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like the footer in the base theme inserting those embed_form's | 18:06 |
| zOnny | oh right , replaceafill | 18:06 |
| zOnny | uhmmmm I don't exactly know the consequences of reusing those replaceafill | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok, suppose some day we suddenly forget | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and run some "python manage.py loaddata fixture.json" | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like those in here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/tree/master/apps | 18:08 |
| zOnny | auch it will definitely is going to break replaceafill | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that will *OVERWRITE* anything you did to those IDs | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so if you reused an ID and made beautiful changes to that box | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that loaddata will get rid of that completely | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, setting the box to its old state | 18:09 |
| zOnny | we don't want that replaceafill | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, nope | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so far i've been careful | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, when deploying things | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you never know what mistakes we're going to make tomorrow | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, better safe than sorry | 18:10 |
| zOnny | correct replaceafill | 18:10 |
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