IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2018-05-01

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zOnnyHello World!11:32
zOnnyseems that we have  green light to do paul-flint website11:34
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zOnnylelkneralfaro: hey man 11:35
zOnnynobody  around :( ?   11:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, are you around?11:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I was not paying attention to irc for a while12:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I'm around now12:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah12:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool, i just added a few more security points to the proposal12:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, great. thank you for your help :)12:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, np, let me know if you need clarification on anything12:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, will do. 12:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, on a separate topic. I would like to know more about the tool that Daniela and Heylin are using to knock on doors12:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, when would be a good time for us to chat?12:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, well, it's just a form12:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i have time now12:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, want to hang out?12:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I would love to. but I'm at a coffee shop and don't have my mic12:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok12:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, anything you want to know in particular?12:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, pasted you the url in a private message12:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i don't want google to be indexing that yet :)12:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, what does the form contain and are they adding information to it as they go knock on doors12:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, on their phones?12:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, as you can see the form is public12:11
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, there's no app involved, just a tendenci page12:11
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that they fill out after talking to people12:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see. thanks for sharing. I have some questions then12:12
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, as a tendenci administrator you can see the form "entries", the data that has been submitted through it12:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, are the entries organized under the full name of the person? or can they be organized by different fields?12:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i just sent you an export of the entries12:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, csv export that is12:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no, that's a request from Daniela, hold on12:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novalaciro-ams/issues12:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think your last question is: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novalaciro-ams/issues/112:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we can add the Category field to the form with values like "education", etc12:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's tendenci12:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but we cannot filter the entries12:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, by a field12:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that'd require custom code12:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, which shouldn't be difficult12:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. I see. and as a user can you return to a specific form other than by looking at the full csv?12:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, by return, you mean to edit it?12:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes edit, or simply view individually. 12:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, simply view, yes, edit no12:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and you can only view as admin12:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and returning to the form to edit would require custom code?12:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes12:21
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, difficult?12:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that one would be a bit more difficult, yes12:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, because tendenci never considered editing entries12:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, see, this "feature" started as an experiment12:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, by feature i mean this form for novalaciro12:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, at the beginning it was only "let's see if we can gather data"12:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, now Daniela wants filtering and authorization access, etc12:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and tendenci forms were designed as a feedback and registration tool12:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, "send your comments", "send your email"12:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, "provide your contact details for the next event"12:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and so on12:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you don't want to be editing the first two cases12:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and for the third case, tendenci automatically generates a profile for the person submitting their contact details12:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so you can actually register them into a conference or event12:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ok, I understand. those are cool additions you are adding12:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'm not sure if we should keep this path to be honest12:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's something i'd like to discuss with the involved parties :)12:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if Daniela is requesting "these members should be able to access this data, and these others this other data"12:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, you think the tendenci form feature is not a good foundation for the sort of functionality they are looking for?12:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we should think about handling that with groups12:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct12:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I understand12:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, most of the content objects in tendenci have permissions capability12:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but not form entries12:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see. 12:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hmm interesting problem12:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :)12:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well those are all my questions. thanks for answering :)12:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure, np12:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ttyl12:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, later o/12:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, you around?13:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes13:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, another quick question about the canvassing function13:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, canvassing function?13:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, how difficult would it be to have an interactive map like we spoke about months ago?13:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, oh you mean for novalaciro13:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, "canvassing function" that's what I'm calling the form Daniela and Heylin are using13:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, got it13:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, can you briefly describe the use case?13:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, sure13:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, let's say that the user gets the address or has the address of the people they want to reach out to. 13:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, those people show up in a map13:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, little clickable dots,13:04
lelkneralfarothat the user can press to see their details13:04
lelkneralfaroACTION done13:05
lelkneralfaroACTION unless that isn't enough information13:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so you need the people data already in the system ,,right?13:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes, or you could add it13:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, as you go along13:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and then their data would be added to the map13:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, again, based on our previous conversation about restricting permissions, i wouldn't base this canvassing feature off the current form (+ entries)13:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i can draft what's needed to get there if you think it's worth13:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I imagined the form function wouldn't be the way to go13:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well, if possible, off the top of your head how long do you think it would take to develop?13:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, 32-40 hours being optimistic13:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it'd require a new tendenci model (content object), that's the time consuming task13:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. that's what I wanted to know13:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, now that we are on the topic... what made the project that we were discussing with Agaric more intense? what do you see as the difference?13:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, in the features?13:12
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that included a lot more features, right?13:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, regarding the mapping tool13:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, at that time i wasn't considering tendenci as base foundation13:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and i wasn't as familiar with tendenci as i am now13:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, do you think the novalaciro features should really be available to all the members?13:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ok. I understand.13:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, to your last question...13:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i mean, if the permissions access should be so strict13:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, maybe we could just design it as a "admin" only feature13:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that would lower the developing time considerably13:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, probably yes the permissions access should be limited to the organizers and relevant personel13:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, who can be "admin"13:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ok13:17
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but that's something to be worked out with NOVALACIRO13:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right13:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, could you help me communicating that?13:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm thinking that if people want to see their data they should be request it from the organizer, but they probably shouldn't have access to other people's data13:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, am I understanding the situation/question correctly?13:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novalaciro-ams/issues/313:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, "busco que los mismos miembros se puedan interconectar entre ellos para intercambiar informacion"13:19
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yeah I'm looking over it now13:20
lelkneralfaroACTION thinking13:20
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i have no idea of novalaciro's budget for this13:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but we should provide all these alternatives in my opinion13:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, "doing it this way is cheaper but it's not what you want exactly", etc13:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, or if we're doing it on our own13:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I agree, I think it is best to propose the easier option, they don't have a big budget13:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, plus, I think they should think through their data stewardship procedure, I feel like having all members be able to have access to the data is risky13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, well, if this is a community feature, it makes sense to expose "some" of it13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but that's what makes it complicated to develop13:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see, well I think in the case of responses to the "problemas de la comunidad" it is a good idea for members to be able to see each others' responses13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, which I think is what Daniela is already asking for, correct?13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I can see how that would be difficult to implement13:26
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replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct, i think that's what she wants13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, maybe not displaying who's requesting help with, say, education13:28
jelknergood afternoon replaceafill and lelkneralfaro 13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but being able what the issues on that topic are13:28
replaceafillable to see*13:28
replaceafillgood afternoon jelkner13:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, good afternoon13:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see, yes, that is difficult but seems like a cool and useful feature13:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, maybe jelkner can provide his opinion13:29
lelkneralfarojelkner, we are talking about this feature13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, another approach i think we should evaluate: forums13:29
lelkneralfarojelkner, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novalaciro-ams/issues/313:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think this could be modeled somehow with forums13:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, very good point13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, forums are content objects, so you can restrict permissions to them13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, hide them, etc13:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and this does seem a forum like problem13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +113:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what's that saying, multiple ways to skin a cat or soemthing :D13:31
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I suppose the question is how do the users make it into the forums?13:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct13:31
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I have heard the cat skinning saying, although I have never used it myself13:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you'd need to organize them accordingly13:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, organize them into groups13:32
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well I guess, based on the responses, the admin can create the forums13:32
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and either add the members themselves. or tell the members that they can join the forums independently13:32
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they join groups which gives them access to the proper forums13:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and groups can be set in a "allow self add/remove" basis13:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so members could volunteer and join an "open" group13:34
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that seems right13:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in this case problem becomes "reporting"13:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i mean, from the admin point of view13:34
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, what do you mean?13:35
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, could you explain more please?13:35
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's not as easy as classify a form entry into categories anymore13:35
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you use form entries + categories, you can count them in a report, right?13:35
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you develop it as groups + forums13:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you're not sure how many of the topics are relevant to each category13:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, a user may open several topics on the same "issue"13:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i mean, they're more "open-ended?"13:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh, I think I understand. But why not keep the form entries + categories. and also create the forums. 13:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I mean to say (hopefully not confusing things)13:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that a person can choose their category of problem in the form13:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, which will satisfy the reporting requirement13:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and then join the forum separately. 13:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but you don't have guarantees they'll use it as you expect, right?13:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i can go to the forum and report i don't have water in my community13:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, under the health forum13:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, when there's maybe a "services (electricity, gas, water)" forum13:40
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I suppose that would decrease the chance that they use it as expected. I mean, if there are both the forum and form entry13:41
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure, but my point is if you have people several ways to communicate their problem, they'll use one, and maybe not the one you expect13:41
replaceafillif you give people*13:41
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes, i just read over your hypothetical and I see what you mean. 13:42
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, read it over again I mean. 13:42
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hmm, i think that in online forums I have seen administrators move or close conversatoins13:44
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes, moderation13:45
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, for not being in the correct forum13:45
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes moderator, not administrator correct. "the not used as expected" part could be solved by moderation correct?13:45
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, those options seem a bit limited in tendenci (moderation i mean)13:46
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh I see. (another complication lol)13:46
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can try it! https://demo.tendenci.com/forums/c/general-topics/opportunities-for-members/testing/13:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ignore the poll option for now13:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but check that as an admin (username: admin, password: admin)13:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and you will see options like "close topic" for instance13:48
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can delete/edit posts too13:48
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see I see, I suppose a moderator could go on and ask someone to move their conversation to another forum13:50
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, no guarantee, but the "conversation migration" wouldn't have to be built into the software as a feature13:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes, that would be possible "post your question here: http://... for better results"13:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right13:51
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that seems a good solution to me, if my dad doesn't get upset about it lol13:51
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, check the post link again13:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you should see a 404 (not found), right?13:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, then go to: https://demo.tendenci.com/forums/13:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and check the Private Forums [Hidden]13:53
lelkneralfaroyes I get this The page moved from /forums/c/general-topics/opportunities-for-members/testing/ to another path like /cool-stuff/.13:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and check under Fundraising Ideas13:53
lelkneralfaro"the page was not found" 13:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, as you can see topics "can" be moved13:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's just a UI mess13:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you need to jump to the django admin, and know what to look for13:54
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, nothing that training and docs can't help with though13:54
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I see the moved topic13:54
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, you think that Daniela could handle it?13:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure13:55
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, sounds good to me then13:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i tend to exaggerate you know https://demo.tendenci.com/admin/forums/topic/13:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can see each topi displays the forum there13:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can click the topic13:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, to edit it13:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, then you just change it to the *right* forum13:57
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, using the Forum dropdown13:57
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, oh yeah, I've gone through the django admin when I was testing with Celina's site13:57
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right, as i told you some time ago13:57
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I kind of liked it. I mean, i haven't used it much to have a strong opinion13:57
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if users don't care about the look and feel of the tool13:57
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, its flexibility is amazing13:57
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but it seemed more powerful13:58
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'd like to send the proposal to Paul and take lunch, cool if I duck out? anything I can help with to conclude this?13:59
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no, i'm fine, thanks for the conversation though, it helped me materialize some of my ideas :)14:00
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'll follow up in the gitlab issues14:00
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, later today (hopefully) :)14:00
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, great. glad I could help. talk to you later :)14:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i do have a request for you if i may14:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, go for it14:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i was going to explain all of this to zOnny14:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, because i consider him *my* contact point with novalaciro :)14:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but if you could help me *talking* to Daniela about this, that'd be great14:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'm not saying that'd be necessary14:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'll try to explain through the issues14:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but if it's necessay, could you call her/meet with her to talk about this?14:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, for sure, if she needs some further clarification I would be glad to help14:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, excellent! thanks14:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, please let me know14:02
lelkneralfaro:)14:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, will do14:02
replaceafillACTION done14:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, great. off to lunch thanks. talk to you later14:03
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, later o/14:03
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jelknerping replaceafill 14:11
replaceafilljelkner, pong14:11
jelkneris now a good time for me to email the aea-pac list?14:11
jelknersaying they will receive and email with their login links soon following?14:11
replaceafilljelkner, sure14:11
replaceafilljelkner, can you bcc me?14:11
replaceafilljelkner, i'll activate their accounts once i receive your email14:12
jelkneri'm going to do worse than that ;-)14:12
jelkneri'm going to cc you14:12
replaceafilljelkner, cool :)14:12
jelknerso if something goes wrong, everyone knows where to find you! ;-)14:12
replaceafilljelkner, :D14:12
zOnnyreplaceafill one question14:21
replaceafillzOnny, yes?14:22
zOnnyreplaceafill: there is a way to set up a _dev instance for this new customer14:24
replaceafillzOnny, i can help you with that14:24
replaceafillzOnny, when do you need it up?14:24
replaceafillzOnny, and don't give me ASAP you too...?14:24
zOnnyonce you get time replaceafill 14:24
replaceafillzOnny, better, but when do you plan to start working on it?14:25
replaceafillzOnny, could you help me creating two new branches based on the base theme?14:25
replaceafillzOnny, paulflint_dev and paulflint_prod14:25
zOnnyWe he has already sent an example about how he would like his website replaceafill 14:25
replaceafillzOnny, oh ok14:25
replaceafillzOnny, i'll set it up later today14:26
replaceafillzOnny, you're using the base theme as a foundation, right?14:26
replaceafillzOnny, so they get the same cms, etc14:27
zOnnyreplaceafill: uhhmmmmm14:27
replaceafillzOnny, or are you planning on doing your own cms? :)14:27
replaceafillzOnny, at the end of the day, it's your call, you're in charge of that project14:28
zOnnyI am planning to do my own cms replaceafill 14:28
replaceafillzOnny, oh ok14:28
replaceafillzOnny, no branches needed then14:28
replaceafillzOnny, but for the record14:28
zOnnylol cannot do that yet replaceafill 14:28
replaceafillzOnny, i'm -1 on that decision14:28
zOnnywhich means we will keep the same protocol as the other websites replaceafill 14:29
replaceafillzOnny, cool14:30
zOnnythanks replaceafill 14:30
replaceafillzOnny, np, i'll ping/email you once it's ready14:31
zOnnymy branches are alredy on our repo replaceafill 14:31
replaceafillzOnny, great, could you rename your branch to paulflint_dev?14:32
replaceafillzOnny, you have no idea how many complications those damn dashes bring...14:33
zOnnyok replaceafill 14:33
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner i think we should schedule a meeting with Daniela14:43
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner i'd like to show her forums14:43
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner as we discussed with lelkneralfaro today (check irclog if interested), forums is the natural fit to the problem she seems trying to solve (connect users)14:44
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner but i fear i won't be able to explain this well in tendenci issues14:45
replaceafillgitlab issues*14:45
jelknerACTION signs off to go home15:11
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h16:06
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jelknerping replaceafill 18:20
replaceafilljelkner, pong18:20
jelknerjust saw we are setting up a dev server for flint18:20
jelknerdoes that mean we came to an agreement with him?18:20
replaceafilljelkner, i don't know, zOnny requested it this afternoon18:20
jelknerok, i don't mean to butt in18:21
jelknerjust curious18:21
jelknernever mind18:21
jelkneri'll let y'all handle things18:21
replaceafilljelkner, sure, i'm not in that loop really18:21
replaceafilljelkner, i'm just supporting zOnny18:21
jelkner+118:21
jelkneri'll check with him tomorrow18:21
replaceafilljelkner, cool18:21
jelkneri've noticed freescholar has been away from irc for a few days18:22
jelknerlouie emailed her18:22
jelkneri wanted to ping her to confirm she got it18:22
jelknerbut i haven't seen her18:22
replaceafilljelkner, ah18:22
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jelknerreplaceafill, are you ready for the email?19:05
jelkneri'm getting ready to send it.19:05
jelkner5 minutes19:05
replaceafilljelkner, i've been waiting all afternoon19:05
replaceafilljelkner, kidding19:05
replaceafilljelkner, :D19:05
replaceafilljelkner, sure19:05
replaceafilljelkner, seriously, i've had the approve screen loaded for a while now :)19:05
jelkneryou wouldn't believe what happened19:12
jelknerbut let me finish first19:12
jelknerand i have an 8 pm meeting with nea4or folks19:13
jelknerso i need to hurry19:13
replaceafilljelkner, go go go!19:13
replaceafillACTION goes to prepare coffee, bb in ~519:15
replaceafillACTION is back19:18
jelknerokie dokie19:20
jelknersent19:20
jelkneranyway, today was *crazy*!  (even crazier than usual)19:20
jelkneri forgot i had agreed to speak on a panel in dc at the atlantic magazine "Education Summit"19:21
jelknerso, i have to finish my first class, grab a car2go, run home and put on decent cloths (i don't have many of those), and drive to dc19:21
jelknerit all turned out very nicely19:21
jelkneri'm doing *a lot* of networking these days, replaceafill 19:22
replaceafilljelkner, wow19:22
replaceafilljelkner, sounds "busy"19:22
replaceafilljelkner, :)19:22
replaceafilljelkner, accounts activated19:22
jelknersince we are now in "caste the broad net" mode19:22
jelknerthanks!19:22
jelknerdid you see my comment earlier about freescholar?19:22
jelknerhave you seen her lately?19:23
replaceafilljelkner, yes19:23
jelknerwhen19:23
jelkner?19:23
replaceafilljelkner, yes, i saw your comment19:23
jelkneryou're on irc more than me19:23
replaceafilljelkner, i haven't been paying attention to #agaric lately19:23
jelknerah, the yes was to the first question, not the 2nd19:23
replaceafilljelkner, right, sorry19:23
jelknerlet me know if you see her please19:23
jelknerit's time to send lelkneralfaro to boston19:24
replaceafilljelkner, sure, want me to ask her anything?19:24
jelknerand i don't want to drag my feet on that19:24
replaceafilljelkner, ok19:24
jelknerask her if she got louie's email19:24
replaceafilljelkner, will do19:24
jelknerthanks19:24
jelkneri'll call keri tomorrow to follow up19:26
replaceafilljelkner, cool19:26
replaceafilljelkner, aea and novalaciro are bringing interesting stories19:26
jelkner+119:26
jelknerthat's what we need19:26
replaceafilljelkner, indeed19:26
jelknerwe choose really good partners19:27
replaceafilljelkner, +119:27
jelknerwhich reminds me, i need to call daniella19:27
jelknerthe ids are too bright19:27
replaceafilljelkner, ah19:27
replaceafilljelkner, i hope that's going well19:28
jelknera student with a good eye told me they hurt his eyes19:28
replaceafilljelkner, let me know when is my turn in that regard19:28
jelknerhe's right19:28
jelknertoo much color19:28
jelknerwe are almost there19:28
replaceafilljelkner, cool19:28
jelknerlet me talk to daniela first19:28
replaceafilljelkner, sure19:28
replaceafilljelkner, no rush on my part ;)19:28
jelknerACTION goes to call daniela19:28
jelknerno man, we need to get them printed!19:28
replaceafilljelkner, i know :)19:29
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks for the _dev instance19:32
replaceafillzOnny, sure, np19:32
replaceafilljelkner, freescholar just signed in19:50
jelkneri'm already on the nea4or call19:51
jelknerping her if you can19:51
jelknerplease19:51
jelknerotherwise, i'll look for her tomorrow19:51
jelkneror after the call19:51
jelknerwait19:52
jelknerno, i'm afraid if i ping her we will get into a conversation19:52
jelkneri can't do that19:52
jelknerand don't want to ping her and then have to cut her off19:52
replaceafilljelkner, done19:58
replaceafilljelkner, since you're in #agaric that saves me typing ;)19:58
jelknerlol19:58
jelkner+119:58
jelkneri thought something was up when i didn't see her for a few days19:59
replaceafillok, i'm going home :)20:06
replaceafillhave good night jelkner and zOnny, see you maƱana20:06
zOnnysee u replaceafill 20:06

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