IRC log of #novawebdev for Friday, 2018-05-04

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replaceafillgood morning jelkner10:48
jelknergood morning replaceafill 10:59
replaceafilljelkner, i just wanted to mention a couple of things:10:59
replaceafilljelkner, 1. i noticed Keri added a couple of options to the AEA-PAC navbar11:00
jelkneryes she did11:00
jelkneri was there with her when she did11:00
replaceafilljelkner, but the new documents page is public11:00
jelknerouch11:00
jelknerthat is a mistake11:00
jelknerbut i can fix that, yes?11:00
replaceafilljelkner, you should train her to look for the red lock icon11:00
replaceafilljelkner, i don't think so11:01
jelkneri will, as soon as i train myself ;-)11:01
replaceafilljelkner, let me check the permisisons of the page11:01
jelknerwe decided for two reasons that we should not give me admin11:01
replaceafilljelkner, oh yes, you should be able to edit it11:01
jelkner1. i need to "feel the pain" of the other non-admins in aea-pac so i can work with them11:01
replaceafilljelkner, you just need to remove the "Public can view" option11:02
jelkner2. keri needs more practice with doing admin stuff11:02
replaceafilljelkner, cool, makes sense11:02
jelknercool, a non-admin can do that, yet?11:02
jelkneryes?11:02
replaceafilljelkner, an editors member can11:02
replaceafilljelkner, permissions are correct11:02
jelknerwrite11:02
jelknerthat's me11:02
replaceafilljelkner, it's just the public can view setting that is wrong11:02
jelknercool11:03
jelknerthanks11:03
replaceafilljelkner, 2nd thing11:03
replaceafilljelkner, when do you plan to work on the AEA bylaws again?11:03
jelknertoday if i can11:04
jelknertomorrow if not11:04
jelknersunday for sure11:04
replaceafilljelkner, ok, i'd like to show you a way to edit the outline11:04
jelknercool11:04
jelknerwhen?11:04
replaceafilljelkner, it's not perfect, but it's better than what i think you've been doing11:04
jelknerbetter is good ;-)11:05
replaceafilljelkner, and it doesn't require source code editing11:05
jelkner+111:05
jelknernice11:05
jelknerthat would really help11:05
replaceafilljelkner, my day is open today, so your call11:05
jelknersince i can't expect html from my colleagures11:05
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, it's not a huge difference, but i want you to see it at least for feedback11:05
jelknerr u around tomorrow?11:05
jelkner2 pmish?11:05
replaceafilljelkner, i can try, sure11:06
replaceafilljelkner, 2pm tomorrow?11:06
jelknerlet's try for that11:06
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:06
replaceafillACTION done11:06
jelknercheck-in11:06
jelknermy plan is to meet zOnny and hrodriguez at 2 pm11:08
jelkneron saturday11:08
jelkneri'm knocking on doors in the morning11:09
jelknerand i feel confident i can make it to the library by 2 pm11:09
jelknerbut i'm not 100%11:09
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok11:09
jelkner95%11:09
replaceafilljelkner, :)11:10
jelknerso i'll look for you here at 2 pm tomorrow11:10
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:10
jelknerthanks, man!11:10
jelknerbtw. keri is loving this11:10
replaceafilljelkner, glad to hear :)11:10
jelkneringrid is putting more money in the budget for website since they like what we are doing11:10
replaceafilljelkner, we should make sure to "cash in?" on that ;)11:11
replaceafilljelkner, collect?11:11
replaceafilljelkner, get all the money!11:11
replaceafilljelkner, :)11:11
jelkneronce aea-pac can vote online, we will have a small chorus singing our praises ;-)11:11
jelknerwe need the forum too11:11
replaceafilljelkner, you need to *use* it11:12
jelkneri need to:11:12
jelkner1. find it11:12
replaceafilljelkner, voting is coming along... slowly, but coming along11:12
jelkner2. link it from the website so others can find it11:12
jelknercool11:12
replaceafilljelkner, it's in the megamenu!11:12
jelknerokie dokie hasta tomorrow11:12
replaceafilljelkner, Community -> Forums11:12
replaceafilljelkner, ok, see you maƱana11:13
jelknernon-editors can see the megamenu?11:13
replaceafilljelkner, yes11:13
jelknerit should be linked from web pages11:13
replaceafilljelkner, any authenticated user will see it11:13
jelknertoo many things in megamenu11:13
jelknerneeds to be user friendly11:13
jelknerwe can talk more tomorrow11:13
replaceafilljelkner, sure11:13
replaceafilljelkner, that's AEA editors' work anyway :P11:14
replaceafillACTION se lava las manos!11:14
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zOnnyhey replaceafill 13:11
replaceafillhey zOnny13:12
zOnnyhttps://paste.pound-python.org/show/oLjRjlnbPGMNHzPCcoKO/ replaceafill 13:13
zOnnyOops!13:14
replaceafillzOnny, ?13:14
zOnnyI have one question replaceafill 13:15
zOnnyWhat happens if I remove my venv replaceafill13:16
replaceafillzOnny, you won't be able to run anything you installed on it13:17
zOnny:D13:18
zOnnyhey replaceafill I was experiencing this issue in all my venv since yersterday13:22
zOnnyhttps://paste.pound-python.org/show/d0xh9RbmGiQ46TipzwVL/13:22
zOnnyI included ver = geos_version().split(' ')[0] this solution 13:23
replaceafillzOnny, have you upgraded your operating system?13:24
zOnny18.4 replaceafill :(13:24
replaceafillzOnny, did you upgrade or install from scratch?13:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: no13:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: I just upgraded 13:25
replaceafillzOnny, makes sense13:26
zOnnyI am paying the consequences ? replaceafill 13:26
replaceafillzOnny, you broke the postgis link with your venv13:26
replaceafillzOnny, yes13:26
replaceafillzOnny, first13:26
replaceafillzOnny, you'll be alone for a while on that regard13:27
replaceafillzOnny, i don't plan on upgrading to 18.4 until 1. it's stable enough, 2. we finish this integration13:27
replaceafillzOnny, so you'll need to deal with this kind of issue13:27
replaceafillzOnny, second13:27
zOnnyok replaceafill13:27
replaceafillzOnny, i think you could try to set up a new venv but i don't think it's only that13:28
replaceafillzOnny, it's actually postgres + postgis that may have changed13:28
replaceafillzOnny, i mean, their versions13:28
replaceafillzOnny, so you may need to upgrade your databases13:28
zOnny:O uhhmmmmm13:28
replaceafillzOnny, if you don't have anything useful in the databases you can just get rid of them and create new ones13:29
replaceafillzOnny, try a new venv first13:29
replaceafillzOnny, you don't have to delete your old ones13:29
replaceafillzOnny, you can just name them differently13:29
replaceafillzOnny, new-venv or something13:29
replaceafillzOnny, but you'll need to repeat the installation process unfortunately13:30
replaceafillzOnny, so python picks your new library versions13:30
replaceafillzOnny, otherwise my friend you'll need to use a 16.04 vm 13:30
zOnnywelll I deleted my venv that I was using for testing tendenci and helios13:31
replaceafillzOnny, and you're getting the GEOS error in the new one?13:32
zOnnywhich later on I set up a new venv but seems that I get an error with mama_cas replaceafill 13:32
replaceafillzOnny, because you haven't repeated the installation process13:33
zOnnywhich I sent you in the first link replaceafill 13:33
replaceafillzOnny, the integration steps in the google doc13:33
replaceafillzOnny, you installed mama_cas from there13:33
zOnnyahh 13:33
zOnnyI can try the proccess again so13:34
zOnny*process 13:34
replaceafillzOnny, you'll have to...13:34
replaceafillzOnny, a word of advice on upgrading OSs, specially ubuntu, wait a month or so13:35
zOnnythanks for clarify my issues replaceafill 13:35
replaceafillzOnny, until the end user fixes are a bit more ironed13:35
replaceafillzOnny, and always take into account your dev environments before upgrading13:36
replaceafillzOnny, your dev environments usually rely on *system* libraries13:36
zOnnyyesterday one student conviced me to upgraded it replaceafill 13:36
zOnny:(13:36
replaceafillzOnny, and system libraries get far newer versions when you jump from 2016 to 201813:37
replaceafillzOnny, which sometimes disrupt your work13:37
replaceafillzOnny, just don't do it blindly next time13:37
replaceafillzOnny, and plan accordingly13:37
replaceafillzOnny, have backup plans13:37
replaceafillzOnny, like a 16.04 VM box already available13:37
zOnnywhich means I am very easy to convince  :( 13:37
replaceafillzOnny, :/13:38
zOnnyI got my experience now replaceafill 13:38
replaceafillzOnny, cool13:38
replaceafillzOnny, let me know if you get stuck fixing it13:38
replaceafillzOnny, and also consider this will delay your work13:38
zOnnythanks a lot, replaceafill 13:38
replaceafillzOnny, sometimes considerably13:38
replaceafillzOnny, so do it in a non-rush hour :)13:39
replaceafillzOnny, like vacations13:39
zOnnyno choices replaceafill  I have to fix it 13:39
replaceafillzOnny, or weekends13:39
replaceafillzOnny, kk13:39
replaceafillzOnny, good luck13:39
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zOnnyhey replaceafill 13:55
replaceafillhey zOnny13:55
zOnnyDO you know chris Hedrick  ?13:56
zOnnyhttps://github.com/cmhedrick13:56
replaceafillzOnny, i don't *know* him, but i know about him :)13:57
zOnnyi was having a meeting with him yesterday and showing him about our work 13:57
replaceafillzOnny, ah nice13:59
zOnnyHe really remark Important points replaceafill 13:59
replaceafillzOnny, such as?13:59
zOnnythe way our workflow is and the way he is in disagree about how we are using gitlab :(14:01
replaceafillzOnny, why does he disagree?14:02
zOnnyI couldn't get a change see you on irssi at 7:00 pm14:03
replaceafillzOnny, hm?14:04
zOnnyreplaceafill: there is a chance that we can meet up this next thrusday ?14:05
replaceafillzOnny, why can't *you* tell me his remarks? :)14:06
zOnnyreplaceafill: really ?14:10
replaceafillzOnny, sure, you consider them important, right?14:11
replaceafillzOnny, and i want to understand what *you* think about them14:12
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h14:50

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