IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2018-05-08

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jelknerping replaceafill 09:59
jelknerready to hangout?10:00
replaceafilljelkner, yes10:00
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replaceafillhello Diza10:29
DizaReplaceafill I'll send you the info of the font and the color used in the ID card tonight10:31
replaceafillDiza, cool10:36
replaceafillDiza, i also want to know10:36
replaceafillDiza, how you plan to use the features10:36
replaceafillDiza, so i can design the user interactions accordingly10:36
replaceafillDiza, that's why i asked about who's uploading the picture, etc10:37
jelknerping replaceafill 13:12
replaceafilljelkner, pong13:13
jelknertwo questions13:13
jelkner1. regarding the summer PRIME intern, what do you think about asking him to work on a web app for NOVALACIRO?13:13
jelknerthat way he can work with mjsir911 on the front end13:13
jelknerand you on the back end13:14
replaceafilljelkner, what would be the web app about?13:14
jelknerfirstly, adding photos formatted in the way we want for IDs13:14
jelknerfrom an Ubuntu Touch phone13:14
jelkner(or others)13:15
jelkner2nd (depending how it goes), he could look into an app that would work a lot like the wikipedia app13:15
jelknerit would be a novalaciro icon on your mobile desktop that takes you right to the novalacior website and logs you in13:16
jelkner(since it would remember your credentials)13:16
jelknerthen you could access member pages and navigate the site13:16
replaceafilljelkner, do you see those as fundamental features for novalaciro?13:17
jelknertricky part will be the restful api13:17
jelknerthe whole point of a PRIME intern is to develop something on a wish list13:18
jelknersomething cool that you would like to have but won't suffer if you don't13:18
jelknerthe intern has a month13:18
jelknerand then will leave13:18
jelknerif he is successful13:18
jelknerwe win, and so does he13:18
jelknerif not, no serious harm done13:19
jelkneralso, it is a "side project" so it won't require too much of your attention13:19
replaceafilljelkner, i really don't see the value in any of those, since you have alternatives to do the same13:19
jelkneraccept perhaps for the restful part13:19
jelknernever mind then13:19
replaceafilljelkner, i mean13:19
replaceafilljelkner, pictures, you take them, edit them, upload them, right?13:19
replaceafilljelkner, let me ask you this13:20
jelknerhow do you edit them?13:20
replaceafilljelkner, how are we going to do this during may with no app yet?13:20
jelknerwe are going to do it the *Hard Way*!13:20
jelknerwhich is ok in may13:21
jelknerbut is slow and painful13:21
jelkner1. take picture using whatever you use to take picture13:21
replaceafilljelkner, why?13:21
replaceafilljelkner, camera app13:21
jelkner2. copy it to some location where you have gimp to edit it13:21
jelkner3. edit it to the size and shape we want13:21
replaceafilljelkner, the editing part shouldn't be necessary if we all agree on an image ratio13:22
replaceafilljelkner, that's why i want to know Daniela's (and your) plans13:22
jelkner4. upload it to the website13:22
replaceafilljelkner, but don't let me get in your way13:22
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replaceafilljelkner, if a wish list is ok13:23
DizaHello again13:23
jelkneryour not getting in *my* way, my dear friend13:23
jelknerbut maybe in *our* way ;-)13:23
jelknerthink about this13:23
jelknerand it is important for you to put yourself in the position of marketing our product13:24
jelkner(we all need to do that)13:24
replaceafillDiza, do you have a plan for handling the member photos at this point?13:24
replaceafilljelkner, same question i guess ^13:24
jelknerACTION has no plans13:25
replaceafillDiza, jelkner for the record i consider you both NOVALACIRO13:25
jelknerwe are, so that's perfectly reasonable13:25
jelknerbut Diza is the professional, and me the volunteer13:25
replaceafilljelkner, so as the developer of the IDs i'm telling you, we need a plan13:25
DizaWell it's hard to upload the pictures by my ububto phobe so so far I'mtaking the pictures with my tabled and uploadit into the google drive13:25
replaceafillDiza ah ok13:26
replaceafillDiza, could you share the pictures you have so far?13:26
replaceafillDiza, i want to see for example the ratio you're using13:26
replaceafillDiza, knowing the size and format would help too13:27
DizaThe sides of the picture is 260x26013:27
jelknerokie dokie, i'm going to back out of this conversation now and let the principals take it from here13:27
replaceafilljelkner, :)13:27
jelknerin the short term, do whatever works, replaceafill 13:27
replaceafilljelkner, cool13:27
jelkneri'll bring up the app and intern again later13:27
replaceafilljelkner, ok13:27
jelknerit was not meant to confuse the present13:27
jelkneri was thinking ahead to july13:28
jelkneradelante amigos!13:28
replaceafillDiza, do you get the 260x260 right out of the tablet?13:28
replaceafillDiza, or do you need to edit the photos somehow?13:28
DizaReplaceafill I took more pictures today so I'll share the folder with you as soon as I finisheduploadit13:28
replaceafillDiza, great thanks13:29
DizaI cut the picture before upload in google drive replaceafill13:29
replaceafillDiza, what's the reason for cutting them?13:30
replaceafillDiza, i assume to remove "dead space" around faces, etc?13:30
replaceafillDiza, would it be ok if we assume that we'll be using square (1:1 ratio) pictures for this?13:31
replaceafilljelkner, there ^ i can see the value of the app indeed13:32
replaceafilljelkner, :)13:32
replaceafillDiza, ok, what about the format? you're getting .jpeg files?13:32
DizaJelkner is bussy right now replaceafill13:32
replaceafillDiza, ah ok, np13:32
Diza.jpeg, yes13:32
replaceafillDiza, and you cut to 260 to get small files?13:33
replaceafillDiza, i mean, file sizes13:33
replaceafillDiza, bytes :D13:33
DizaAnother think is I have a document with the the date of the members with their ID# so when I upload the pictures, the name of it mach with the ID#13:34
replaceafillDiza, ah cool13:34
replaceafillDiza, do you still have the "original" pictures13:34
DizaNo, I cut it to have a square picture 13:34
DizaNo for the first 5 members (I think) let me check13:35
replaceafillDiza, ok13:35
replaceafillDiza, i just want to know if we will be able to adjust our decisions once we start printing the IDs13:36
replaceafillDiza, for example, if the 260x260 images look too pixelated or something13:36
DizaNo, for the first 5 members I only have the cut version of the pictures but I maybe able to get it again13:36
replaceafillDiza, ah good to know, thanks13:37
DizaYes I understand13:37
replaceafillDiza, ok, did you see my plan about creating a pdf with two pages?13:37
replaceafillDiza, have you worked with the ID card printer yet?13:37
DizaThe thing is I can't took square pictures, it's always are going to be rectangle13:38
DizaNo and no, I can't see all the conversation in my phone13:38
replaceafillDiza, it's in the email i sent you yesterday13:38
replaceafillDiza, let me paste that part here, I just want your confirmation on it:13:39
replaceafillDiza, 13:39
replaceafill"I plan to13:39
replaceafilladd two things:"13:39
replaceafill"1. Ability to upload a photo for each member. I just need to know who13:39
replaceafilldoes this (see my questions below)."13:39
replaceafill"2. A new link (available only to administrators) to get a PDF file with13:39
replaceafillthe ID. The PDF will have two 4x6 pages with the front and back sides of13:39
replaceafillthe ID."13:39
DizaOh I think is the link that I couldn't open in my laptop13:40
replaceafillDiza, my email?13:40
replaceafillDiza, :)13:40
replaceafillDiza, so that's ^ *my* plan13:40
replaceafillDiza, but i want to know if that would work for you13:40
replaceafillDiza, like if a PDF would be useful for the printer13:41
replaceafillDiza, the 4x6 page size comes from a previous discussion with jelkner, i think that's the paper he bought13:42
Diza1) I'll be the one who upload the pictures and the info for the IDs13:43
replaceafillDiza, cool, makes sense13:43
DizaAboutthe second part I really don't understand what are you said13:44
replaceafillDiza, ah ok, np13:44
replaceafillDiza, you visit a member profile in Tendenci, right?13:44
DizaI'm goingto cheekit now13:45
replaceafillDiza, sure13:45
replaceafillDiza, log in as administrator13:45
replaceafillDiza, do you know what the Tendenci ****megamenu**** is? it's the top grey bar with options you see13:46
jelknerreplaceafill, i'm chatting with zOnny13:46
jelknerjust to be clear, he needs to start on our website design now, yes?13:46
replaceafilljelkner, that was the plan, right?13:46
jelknerand not try to wait for nrcerna, yes?13:47
replaceafilljelkner, can zOnny get on IRC?13:47
replaceafilljelkner, i'm not sure how you want to handle this13:47
replaceafilljelkner, but let me finish with Diza, ok?13:47
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, finish helping Diza :)13:47
replaceafillDiza, so if you're in Tendenci, you see "Community" in the top13:48
replaceafillDiza, then you can access "Members"13:48
replaceafillDiza, so far there's only one member (you), correct?13:49
DizaYes replaceafill13:50
DizaAnd yes13:50
replaceafillDiza, ok, so in your profile page you will see:13:51
replaceafillDiza, a "Edit Profile Picture" button13:51
replaceafillDiza, that currently doesn't work as we want13:51
replaceafillDiza, that's the button i'm going to reuse to allow the administrators to upload pictures13:51
replaceafillDiza, i'm just going to change how it currently works13:51
replaceafillDiza, so you will click that and get to a form to upload the picture for the member you're visiting13:52
replaceafillDiza, makes sense?13:52
replaceafillDiza, and if you see in your profile page to the left of your name, there's the "avatar"13:52
replaceafillDiza, which is also square (1:1 ratio)13:53
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DizaI think so replaceafill13:53
replaceafillDiza, i plan to display the uploaded picture thre13:53
replaceafillDiza, and a user can also see their own picture from the Tendenci megamenu :)13:53
zOnnyHello World!13:54
replaceafillDiza, clicking their username in the menu13:54
replaceafillDiza, so my second question is about this:13:54
replaceafillDiza, sorry, my second part of the plan13:54
DizaPerfect replaceafill13:54
replaceafillDiza, when you visit a member13:55
replaceafillDiza, do you see a Users dropdown in the tendenci megamenu?13:55
replaceafillDiza, if you do click it13:55
replaceafillDiza, you will see several options13:55
replaceafillDiza, split into "All Users" and "This User"13:55
replaceafillwe should screenshare next time ;)13:56
DizaYes that will help a lot replaceafill13:56
replaceafillDiza, :D13:56
DizaBut how?13:56
replaceafillDiza, how do we screenshare?13:57
DizaYes, I'm texting by my phone13:57
replaceafillDiza, oh lord, really? :D13:57
replaceafillDiza, i thought you were on a PC!13:58
DizaHahaha nop, but we can use zONNY laptop13:58
DizaAnd later on put the chat in the computer replaceafill13:59
replaceafillDiza, so there's where I plan to put the "ID Card PDF" link14:00
replaceafillDiza, so you'll click it and get the ID card in pdf14:00
replaceafillDiza, for *that* member14:00
replaceafillzOnny, you following this?14:01
zOnnyhey replaceafill 14:01
zOnnyI can help on this replaceafill 14:02
zOnnyWhich is the plan replaceafill 14:02
replaceafillzOnny, just for you to show Diza how to access the Users menu from a members profile14:02
replaceafillzOnny, the one in the screenshot14:02
zOnnyshe is already there replaceafill 14:03
replaceafillzOnny, ah ok14:03
replaceafillzOnny, thanks!14:03
replaceafillDiza, i know all of this is abstract up to this point14:03
DizaI'm in14:03
replaceafillDiza, but hopefully next time we talk you'll see it working14:03
replaceafillDiza, i plan to have a rough working version by Thrusday14:04
replaceafillDiza, could we talk then?14:04
replaceafillDiza, cool, let me know if you have questions/comments14:06
replaceafillzOnny, i'd appreciate if you help Diza to set up hangouts14:07
replaceafillzOnny, either on a pc or her mobile devices :)14:07
replaceafillzOnny, what's the plan with the website?14:09
replaceafillzOnny, that is, NOVA's website :)14:09
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner do you need me to contact nrcerna?14:10
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DizaReplaceafill can you cheek your hangout14:13
replaceafillDiza, ah thanks14:13
replaceafillDiza, want to set a time for meeting on Thursday?14:14
replaceafillDiza, i'm 2 hours behind Virginia btw14:14
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Danyi'm back14:15
replaceafillDany, want to set a time for meeting on Thursday?14:16
Danysure, what time? <replaceafill>14:16
replaceafillDany, 11 am your time?14:16
replaceafillDany, any time after 11 am works for me14:17
Danysound cool, what about 11:30? <replaceafill>14:18
replaceafillDany, excellent, 11:30 it is14:18
replaceafillzOnny, are you around?14:20
zOnnyhey replaceafill I asked ncerna about doing the proposal14:20
replaceafillzOnny, has she responded yet?14:21
zOnnyreplaceafill: yep but she says let's talk soon! 14:22
replaceafillzOnny, ok... do you want me to call her?14:23
Danyreplaceafill I'm going to uplond the pictures right now14:23
replaceafillDany, thanks14:23
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner i'm not really sure how you want to handle this14:24
zOnnyJeff was telling me about doing it ASAP replaceafill 14:24
replaceafillzOnny, for the record jelkner always says ASAP...14:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: I do not know how ncerna's schedule is14:25
replaceafillzOnny, why don't we ask her and plan accordingly...?14:25
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner unless you think nrcerna is not necessary....14:25
zOnnyI do not want to push her on doing things ASAP replaceafill 14:25
replaceafillzOnny, well... someone is pushing you my friend14:26
replaceafillzOnny, and when that happens we need to push the ones around us14:26
zOnnyI would like get her ideas to have a really  good design replaceafill 14:26
replaceafillzOnny, that'd be smart14:26
replaceafillzOnny, let set one thing straight14:26
replaceafillzOnny, this is your project14:27
replaceafillzOnny, correct?14:27
jelknerreplaceafill, zOnny can i share some thoughts on this?14:27
replaceafilljelkner, please14:27
zOnnyit is our project replaceafill 14:27
replaceafillzOnny, touche ;)14:27
jelkner1. when i think about this from nrcerna's point of view, i can imagine why it is hard for her to get super motivated14:27
replaceafillzOnny, but you're in charge of it :P14:27
jelknerwe don't really have a business plan at present that includes her that much14:28
jelknercertainly not "full time"14:28
jelkneri was hoping the website could be a way to begin changing that14:28
jelknerwe will definitely need a designer, but we aren't there yet14:29
jelknerso i was hoping that nrcerna could feature a lot of her work as part of our portfolio14:29
jelknersince our website could effectively market her skills14:29
jelknerbut time is of the essence14:29
jelknerif she is too busy trying to do what she needs to do each day, we can't wait for her14:30
jelknerso she will need to jump in14:30
replaceafilljelkner, has she said she's too busy yet?14:30
jelknerif she says, "i'm in, please push me"14:30
jelknerthen let's push her14:30
jelknerbut i want her to tell me it is ok to do  that or i don't feel comfortable14:30
replaceafilljelkner, i think we're all in the same page, it's just a matter of coordinating, right?14:31
jelknerthat's another reason i am so eager to make the trip to el salvador14:31
jelknerexcept for you, replaceafill, i don't know team guananco yet14:31
replaceafilljelkner, i'm the pusher for the salvadorean branch14:31
jelkneri mean in interpersonal terms14:31
jelknerso you need to lead on that14:31
jelkneras a cooperative, we all share responsibility14:31
replaceafilljelkner, that's why i'm asking zOnny to be *in charge* of the project14:32
jelkneri'm committed to coming in august specifically so that i can get to know mr_german and nrcerna better14:32
jelknerthat's the purpose of the trip14:32
jelknerzOnny, can you be *in charge*?14:32
replaceafilljelkner, so he's responsible for nagging people around14:32
zOnnyI can start doing it  replaceafill 14:32
replaceafillzOnny, please keep me in the loop14:33
replaceafillzOnny, one problem we have is when we don't CC communication effectively14:33
replaceafillzOnny, it's better for me to get flooded with emails14:33
replaceafillzOnny, than being in the dark14:33
jelkneri try to, replaceafill 14:33
zOnnyI have shared it with everyone replaceafill 14:33
replaceafillzOnny, until 30 minutes ago i didn't know nrcerna hadn't responded yet14:34
replaceafilljelkner, thanks for that btw14:34
replaceafilljelkner, it's helpful14:34
replaceafillzOnny, yes, and my bad for assuming things were moving without my knowledget14:34
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner i'll call nrcerna14:35
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner if she's busy, i'll let you know and we adjust14:35
replaceafillACTION goes to call14:35
replaceafillzOnny, jelkner just called nrcerna14:46
replaceafillzOnny, she's going to get in touch with you soon14:46
replaceafillzOnny, she's a bit busy but she's interested in working on this14:46
replaceafillzOnny, she's just afraid her schedule doesn't match yours14:47
zOnnydid she read the irclogs ? replaceafill 14:47
replaceafillzOnny, so you will need some good planning/coordination14:47
replaceafillzOnny, i narrated the logs to her :)14:47
zOnnycool replaceafill 14:47
replaceafillzOnny, now, the boring side of this14:47
replaceafillzOnny, the technical part14:48
replaceafillzOnny, how do you plan to approach that?14:48
zOnnywell, it is not really to get a meeting on this replaceafill 14:48
zOnnyshe can do the same proposal as she did with national hospital 14:48
replaceafillzOnny, that's exactly what she said14:48
replaceafillzOnny, and that's exactly what i said :)14:48
zOnnyThat is all I need 14:48
replaceafillzOnny, you've worked like this before14:49
replaceafillzOnny, that project didn't fly14:49
replaceafillzOnny, but maybe this one will14:49
replaceafillzOnny, :)14:49
replaceafillzOnny, when do you leave for Pycon?14:49
replaceafillzOnny, i told nrcerna your communication may be intermitent this week because of the conference14:50
zOnnytomorrow replaceafill 14:52
zOnnyYeah replaceafill 14:52
replaceafillzOnny, cool14:52
replaceafillzOnny, is there anything else you need from me?14:52
zOnnybut as I said she can do it without my inference replaceafill 14:52
replaceafillzOnny, i agree14:52
zOnnyyes replaceafill 14:53
zOnnyI faced aan issue  trought  the installation process replaceafill 14:53
jelknerhold on, i have something to add14:54
jelknerwe are staying for a day of sprints14:54
jelknerstarting this sunday night14:55
zOnny ~/venv/bin/python loaddata themes/tendenci2018/apps/navs/fixtures/nav.json I could not load it replaceafill 14:55
jelknerand all the way through monday night14:55
jelknerzOnny should be working on our website14:55
jelknerwe need it badly14:55
zOnnyI am on it jelkner 14:55
jelknerby the time lelkneralfaro and i go to NY14:55
jelknerwe want it in place14:55
jelknerthat is june 1st14:56
jelknersince we will be doing a lot of networking there14:56
zOnnyhaving the proposal will be easy for me move and get it done jelkner 14:56
replaceafillzOnny, so you have target dates now14:57
replaceafillzOnny, so you need to plan accordingly14:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: what you think about my issue 14:57
replaceafillzOnny, is the theme called "tendenci2018" in the themes directory?14:58
replaceafillzOnny, i'm not sure what instructions you're following14:58
zOnnyyep replaceafill 14:58
zOnnythe one that we have documented replaceafill 14:59
replaceafillzOnny, what error do you get?15:00
replaceafillzOnny, we need to update this doc to use our base theme15:00
zOnnygive me a 1min replaceafill 15:00
replaceafillzOnny, it seems like the fixture was already loaded15:04
replaceafillzOnny, oh wait15:04
zOnnyI cannot wait replaceafill :(15:04
replaceafillzOnny, it's a problem with the fixture15:04
replaceafillzOnny, oh dude15:04
replaceafillzOnny, you sound too stressed :)15:04
replaceafillzOnny, i blame jelkner15:05
zOnnywhich  feature replaceafill 15:05
replaceafillzOnny, fixture!15:05
jelknerit's all my fault, replaceafill 15:05
zOnny*fixture you right replaceafill 15:05
replaceafillzOnny, the fixture expects a page to exist in the database15:05
replaceafillzOnny, set the creative theme back15:06
replaceafillzOnny, and start the instance15:06
jelknerbtw, replaceafill, will you have a few minutes for me to talk ora?15:06
replaceafillzOnny, check if the "creative" pages exist15:06
zOnnyok replaceafill 15:06
replaceafilljelkner, sure15:06
jelkneri need to send you, alison, and mike an email15:07
jelknerto get the plan for the forum in place15:07
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok15:07
replaceafilljelkner, anything you need from me to do that?15:07
replaceafilljelkner, one question though15:08
jelkneri need to know how the process has been working15:08
replaceafilljelkner, why do you need a forum again?15:08
jelknerwe are going to have a candidate forum15:08
replaceafilljelkner, right15:08
jelknerfor the june 12 democratic primary15:08
replaceafilljelkner, but i mean15:08
replaceafilljelkner, why a forum?15:08
replaceafilljelkner, both candidates will have users, right?15:08
jelknerwe can think about that15:09
replaceafilljelkner, do you expect them to have a "conversation" with the ORA members there?15:09
replaceafilljelkner, ok15:09
replaceafilljelkner, so it's like "ask the candidates here"15:09
jelknermike is in charge of all this, yes?15:09
replaceafilljelkner, what the reddit generation calls AMA (ask me anything)15:09
jelkneri don't want to step on his toes15:09
jelkneri'm just trying to help15:09
jelknera bit more structured15:10
Danyreplaceafill I share already the picture folder and the document with the members info, I 90% sure that I still have the origial picture of member #1 in my personal laptop so I'll upload that later today15:10
Danyalso, 2 more members will send me their pictures tonight so I'll upload that as well when I get it, the same with member #515:10
replaceafillDany, i got a share link to a spreadsheet?15:11
replaceafillDany, and another share link to jelkner's picture :)15:12
replaceafilljelkner, did you discuss doing it in Facebook?15:12
replaceafilljelkner, i'm just curious15:12
replaceafillDany, ah, now i see them15:19
replaceafillDany, thanks!15:19
DanyI may select Jeff picture by accident replaceafill15:19
zOnny replaceafill 15:19
Danywhen I get the missing pictures, I'll text you <replaceafill>15:20
replaceafillDany, great15:20
replaceafillzOnny, yes...?15:20
replaceafillzOnny, did you start the instance after that?15:20
replaceafillzOnny, then go to /pages/search15:21
zOnnyseems to work replaceafill 15:22
replaceafillzOnny, do you have any pages listed?15:22
zOnny0 pages found replaceafill 15:22
replaceafillzOnny, yep15:23
zOnnywhat it means replaceafill 15:23
replaceafillzOnny, you didn't load the creative default data15:23
zOnnyI did once I finished the intallation replaceafill 15:23
replaceafillzOnny, if you did you would have pages :P15:24
replaceafillzOnny, unless you hard deleted them ;)15:24
zOnnyI dont think so replaceafill 15:24
replaceafillzOnny, load the creative defaults15:24
zOnnyok replaceafill 15:24
replaceafillzOnny, and then the tendenci2018 fixtures will work15:24
replaceafillzOnny, the tendenci2018 fixtures are looking for data that is not in the database yet15:25
replaceafillzOnny, that's why it's failing15:25
zOnnybut my others instances work good without it replaceafill 15:25
zOnnyunless ....15:25
replaceafillzOnny, don't know man15:25
replaceafillzOnny, maybe you did sometihng differently here15:26
replaceafillzOnny, so you're past the GEOS errors now?15:26
replaceafillzOnny, and you're back on track on 18.04?15:26
zOnnyI think things change once I upgraded 15:27
replaceafillDany, you should rename picture 12 to have an extension15:28
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replaceafillzOnny, ouch, you created a user with the same id15:29
replaceafillzOnny, and the creative fixture clashes with it15:29
zOnnyshoot 15:29
replaceafillzOnny, remind me to show you how i set up testing instances15:31
replaceafillzOnny, and more importantly document it :(15:32
zOnnyI can make a document once you teach me that replaceafill 15:32
replaceafilljelkner, is there anything else we should discuss about ORA?15:35
jelknerreplaceafill, yes15:39
jelknerbut i need to get a ride home first15:39
replaceafilljelkner, and i need to get lunch :)15:40
jelknerwill you be on irc later?15:40
replaceafilljelkner, set a time?15:40
jelknercan you give me a range?15:40
replaceafilljelkner, anything after 4:30 pm works for me15:40
replaceafilljelkner, i'll be here15:41
replaceafilljelkner, after 4:30 :)15:41
jelkner4:30 pm to when?15:41
jelknera range has *2* values ;-)15:41
replaceafilljelkner, 7 pm15:41
jelkneri don't mean to be a pain15:41
replaceafilljelkner, np15:41
jelkneri need to pack for cleveland15:42
jelknerthings are crazy15:42
jelknera bit tough to predict15:42
replaceafilljelkner, i understand15:42
jelknerok, talk after 4:30 pm15:42
replaceafilljelkner, cool15:42
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb at 4:30 pm15:49
replaceafillACTION is back16:47
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey, do you have a moment to chat? shouldn't take too long17:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure17:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, great17:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm working with Celina now17:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and the first thing she is interested in17:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, is working on sending out her newsletter17:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok17:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, she would like to maintain her contact list through her site17:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and send it out from the site17:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, it is about 450 people17:03
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, have you designed the newsletter yet?17:03
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i mean, in tendenci17:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, nope17:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm trying to figure out where to get started17:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, im not familiar with this feature17:03
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, unfortunately neither am i :D17:04
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i know how it's supposed to work17:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, lol :)17:04
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but we haven't used it17:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, this is not very urgent17:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I would like to make steady progress on it in the next few days17:04
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so perhaps we can work together to explore it?17:05
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we should17:05
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, you anticipated my question17:05
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, warning, the help files are often outdate17:05
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, if the documentation is good I'll see what I can do17:05
replaceafill lelkneralfaro iirc hte newsletter is composed from several parts17:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, as you can see in the third screenshot17:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, articles, news, etc17:06
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see, this looks like it will be fun17:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, okay, I'll explore this and keep track of any questions I have for you17:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, when are you planning to give them a response about it?17:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, Celina has not given me a due date17:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but hopefully soon17:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'll see how much work this looks like it will take17:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool17:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, please share your findings ;)17:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, certainly17:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, 2 questions17:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, first do you know what address the newsletter will be sent from?17:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, or how that works at all?17:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, tendenci uses django's email system17:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in celina's instance that hasn't been set up yet17:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i can set our gmail address for you to test17:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, wonderful :)17:11
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you're using, correct?17:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup17:11
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me do that now, doesn't take long17:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thanks 17:11
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, done17:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i recommend you to also explore
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thank you, I'll check it out17:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, some of them are used automatically in the email templates17:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, like the organization name, etc17:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool17:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, one other question17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I have been playing around with the home page17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, removing some of the boxes 17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that come with the default 17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just to see how the CMS works17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and I got stuck trying to remove the social media widgets17:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, which don't seem to be editable by the "boxes" feature17:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so i tried to edit the html with the theme editor17:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, which didn't seem to do anything either17:16
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what social media widgets?17:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I was thinking this could be because I don't know what I'm doing with the html17:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, or because the theme editor doesn't work17:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, actually, they are not widgets, just icon links I think17:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in the footer?
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, they come on the default home page. there is twitter and fb,17:17
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, in the section above the footer17:17
lelkneralfarooh, nvm17:17
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, they are gone now17:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :D17:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so you did remove them ;)17:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, it looks like the html theme editor did work17:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but it doesn't seem to have happened immediately17:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, kinda weird17:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, be aware of something17:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the changes you make in the html are very difficult to "reproduce"17:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they're just html files in the server17:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but they're not being "tracked"17:19
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I think that I saw that I can return to old versions17:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so it would be difficult to say what you have changed in the theme17:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah yes, the changes are versioned17:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but that's in the database17:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what you're doing is really what zOnny or mr_german do when they "theme"17:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, are those lost at some point?17:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, the saved old versions?17:20
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no, but the current/most updated version may be lost17:21
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, okay. well I'm just playing around to test it anyway17:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure, i understand17:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, just be aware of it17:21
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thanks for letting me know17:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure17:21
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, okay that's all i had17:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, glad you're messing with the theme editor17:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ok17:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yeah, I like the theme editor and the admin panel17:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, much more powerful17:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, indeed17:22
lelkneralfaroACTION goes off to explore newsletter feature17:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, looks promising:
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, a bit more structured than the scattered help files17:30
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool looking forward to checking it out. just sent a test email to myself and it worked. great stuff :)17:45
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :)17:46
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, tried to send a test newsletter and got an error17:49
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, "Email relay is not configured properly. Newsletter cannot be sent."17:49
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me check17:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah!17:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, give me a moment and see if i can fix it17:53
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool thanks17:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'm so glad for all the time i've wasted... i mean spent reading about tendenci:
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the newsletter email settings are independent17:54
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, lol. I have done that with many projects17:55
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I know the feeling17:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's like "this error sounds familiar..." :)17:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, could you try again?17:56
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jelknerping replaceafill 17:56
replaceafilljelkner, pong17:57
jelkneris lelkneralfaro here too?17:57
replaceafilljelkner, yes, we're testing newsletters :)17:57
replaceafilljelkner, well, he is ;)17:57
jelknerreplaceafill, while we have been playing telephone tag (a silly game)17:57
jelkneri've heard from ormd that they want us to make a website for them17:58
replaceafilljelkner, oh no17:58
replaceafilljelkner, :)17:58
replaceafillACTION breathes in a bag....17:58
replaceafilljelkner, great17:58
jelknerlook, man, get ready for the big leagues ;-)17:59
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup17:59
replaceafilljelkner, awesome news17:59
lelkneralfarojelkner, did you talk money at all?17:59
jelknerok, the only immediate help i need was to figure out what to say in my email to mike and alison17:59
jelknerno, lelkneralfaro, this is going to be my donation18:00
replaceafilljelkner, could you explain one thing quickly?18:00
replaceafilljelkner, you said mike was in charge of this?18:00
replaceafilljelkner, do you know if he has any idea on how to do it?18:00
replaceafilljelkner, i asked you before about doing it in facebook18:00
jelknerhow to do what?18:00
replaceafilljelkner, the "ask the candidate" forum18:01
jelknercan we hangout18:01
replaceafilljelkner, sure18:01
jelknermy fingers are going to get too tired18:01
lelkneralfarojelkner, ahh yes you said that18:02
replaceafilljelkner, ready18:02
jelknerping replaceafill lelkneralfaro 19:01
jelknercan we hangout again?19:01
replaceafillpong jelkner19:01
jelkneri just got off the phone with kyle19:01
jelknernew news ;-)19:01
replaceafilljelkner, i can19:01
replaceafilljelkner, ready19:02
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jelknergood night replaceafill, ubuntourist, and Big_Brother 20:17
jelknerACTION signs off for the evening20:18
replaceafillgood night jelkner20:18
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