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| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 09:59 |
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| jelkner | ready to hangout? | 10:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 10:00 |
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| Diza | Hello | 10:27 |
| replaceafill | hello Diza | 10:29 |
| Diza | Replaceafill I'll send you the info of the font and the color used in the ID card tonight | 10:31 |
| replaceafill | Diza, cool | 10:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i also want to know | 10:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, how you plan to use the features | 10:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so i can design the user interactions accordingly | 10:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, that's why i asked about who's uploading the picture, etc | 10:37 |
| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 13:13 |
| jelkner | two questions | 13:13 |
| jelkner | 1. regarding the summer PRIME intern, what do you think about asking him to work on a web app for NOVALACIRO? | 13:13 |
| jelkner | that way he can work with mjsir911 on the front end | 13:13 |
| jelkner | and you on the back end | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what would be the web app about? | 13:14 |
| jelkner | firstly, adding photos formatted in the way we want for IDs | 13:14 |
| jelkner | from an Ubuntu Touch phone | 13:14 |
| jelkner | (or others) | 13:15 |
| jelkner | 2nd (depending how it goes), he could look into an app that would work a lot like the wikipedia app | 13:15 |
| jelkner | it would be a novalaciro icon on your mobile desktop that takes you right to the novalacior website and logs you in | 13:16 |
| jelkner | (since it would remember your credentials) | 13:16 |
| jelkner | then you could access member pages and navigate the site | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you see those as fundamental features for novalaciro? | 13:17 |
| jelkner | tricky part will be the restful api | 13:17 |
| jelkner | right? | 13:17 |
| jelkner | the whole point of a PRIME intern is to develop something on a wish list | 13:18 |
| jelkner | something cool that you would like to have but won't suffer if you don't | 13:18 |
| jelkner | the intern has a month | 13:18 |
| jelkner | and then will leave | 13:18 |
| jelkner | if he is successful | 13:18 |
| jelkner | we win, and so does he | 13:18 |
| jelkner | if not, no serious harm done | 13:19 |
| jelkner | also, it is a "side project" so it won't require too much of your attention | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i really don't see the value in any of those, since you have alternatives to do the same | 13:19 |
| jelkner | accept perhaps for the restful part | 13:19 |
| jelkner | ahh | 13:19 |
| jelkner | never mind then | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pictures, you take them, edit them, upload them, right? | 13:19 |
| jelkner | really? | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me ask you this | 13:20 |
| jelkner | how do you edit them? | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, how are we going to do this during may with no app yet? | 13:20 |
| jelkner | we are going to do it the *Hard Way*! | 13:20 |
| jelkner | which is ok in may | 13:21 |
| jelkner | but is slow and painful | 13:21 |
| jelkner | 1. take picture using whatever you use to take picture | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, why? | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, camera app | 13:21 |
| jelkner | 2. copy it to some location where you have gimp to edit it | 13:21 |
| jelkner | 3. edit it to the size and shape we want | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the editing part shouldn't be necessary if we all agree on an image ratio | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's why i want to know Daniela's (and your) plans | 13:22 |
| jelkner | 4. upload it to the website | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but don't let me get in your way | 13:22 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, if a wish list is ok | 13:23 |
| Diza | Hello again | 13:23 |
| jelkner | your not getting in *my* way, my dear friend | 13:23 |
| jelkner | but maybe in *our* way ;-) | 13:23 |
| jelkner | think about this | 13:23 |
| jelkner | and it is important for you to put yourself in the position of marketing our product | 13:24 |
| jelkner | (we all need to do that) | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | Diza, do you have a plan for handling the member photos at this point? | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, same question i guess ^ | 13:24 |
| jelkner | ACTION has no plans | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | Diza, jelkner for the record i consider you both NOVALACIRO | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | :) | 13:25 |
| jelkner | we are, so that's perfectly reasonable | 13:25 |
| jelkner | but Diza is the professional, and me the volunteer | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so as the developer of the IDs i'm telling you, we need a plan | 13:25 |
| Diza | Well it's hard to upload the pictures by my ububto phobe so so far I'mtaking the pictures with my tabled and uploadit into the google drive | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | Diza ah ok | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | Diza, could you share the pictures you have so far? | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i want to see for example the ratio you're using | 13:26 |
| Diza | Yes | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | Diza, knowing the size and format would help too | 13:27 |
| Diza | The sides of the picture is 260x260 | 13:27 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, i'm going to back out of this conversation now and let the principals take it from here | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:27 |
| jelkner | in the short term, do whatever works, replaceafill | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 13:27 |
| jelkner | i'll bring up the app and intern again later | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 13:27 |
| jelkner | it was not meant to confuse the present | 13:27 |
| jelkner | i was thinking ahead to july | 13:28 |
| jelkner | adelante amigos! | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | Diza, do you get the 260x260 right out of the tablet? | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | Diza, or do you need to edit the photos somehow? | 13:28 |
| Diza | Replaceafill I took more pictures today so I'll share the folder with you as soon as I finisheduploadit | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | Diza, great thanks | 13:29 |
| Diza | I cut the picture before upload in google drive replaceafill | 13:29 |
| replaceafill | Diza, what's the reason for cutting them? | 13:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i assume to remove "dead space" around faces, etc? | 13:30 |
| Diza | Yes | 13:30 |
| replaceafill | Diza, would it be ok if we assume that we'll be using square (1:1 ratio) pictures for this? | 13:31 |
| Diza | Yes | 13:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, there ^ i can see the value of the app indeed | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ok, what about the format? you're getting .jpeg files? | 13:32 |
| Diza | Jelkner is bussy right now replaceafill | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ah ok, np | 13:32 |
| Diza | .jpeg, yes | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | Diza, and you cut to 260 to get small files? | 13:33 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i mean, file sizes | 13:33 |
| replaceafill | Diza, bytes :D | 13:33 |
| Diza | Another think is I have a document with the the date of the members with their ID# so when I upload the pictures, the name of it mach with the ID# | 13:34 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ah cool | 13:34 |
| replaceafill | Diza, do you still have the "original" pictures | 13:34 |
| replaceafill | ? | 13:34 |
| Diza | No, I cut it to have a square picture | 13:34 |
| Diza | No for the first 5 members (I think) let me check | 13:35 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ok | 13:35 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i just want to know if we will be able to adjust our decisions once we start printing the IDs | 13:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, for example, if the 260x260 images look too pixelated or something | 13:36 |
| Diza | No, for the first 5 members I only have the cut version of the pictures but I maybe able to get it again | 13:36 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ah good to know, thanks | 13:37 |
| Diza | Yes I understand | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ok, did you see my plan about creating a pdf with two pages? | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | Diza, have you worked with the ID card printer yet? | 13:37 |
| Diza | The thing is I can't took square pictures, it's always are going to be rectangle | 13:38 |
| Diza | No and no, I can't see all the conversation in my phone | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | Diza, it's in the email i sent you yesterday | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | Diza, let me paste that part here, I just want your confirmation on it: | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | Diza, | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | "I plan to | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | add two things:" | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | "1. Ability to upload a photo for each member. I just need to know who | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | does this (see my questions below)." | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | "2. A new link (available only to administrators) to get a PDF file with | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | the ID. The PDF will have two 4x6 pages with the front and back sides of | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | the ID." | 13:39 |
| Diza | Oh I think is the link that I couldn't open in my laptop | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | Diza, my email? | 13:40 |
| Diza | Nevermind | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | Diza, :) | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so that's ^ *my* plan | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | Diza, but i want to know if that would work for you | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | Diza, like if a PDF would be useful for the printer | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | Diza, the 4x6 page size comes from a previous discussion with jelkner, i think that's the paper he bought | 13:42 |
| Diza | 1) I'll be the one who upload the pictures and the info for the IDs | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | Diza, cool, makes sense | 13:43 |
| Diza | Aboutthe second part I really don't understand what are you said | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ah ok, np | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | Diza, you visit a member profile in Tendenci, right? | 13:44 |
| Diza | No | 13:45 |
| Diza | I'm goingto cheekit now | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | Diza, sure | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | Diza, log in as administrator | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | Diza, do you know what the Tendenci ****megamenu**** is? it's the top grey bar with options you see | 13:46 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i'm chatting with zOnny | 13:46 |
| jelkner | just to be clear, he needs to start on our website design now, yes? | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that was the plan, right? | 13:46 |
| jelkner | and not try to wait for nrcerna, yes? | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can zOnny get on IRC? | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm not sure how you want to handle this | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but let me finish with Diza, ok? | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, finish helping Diza :) | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so if you're in Tendenci, you see "Community" in the top | 13:48 |
| replaceafill | Diza, then you can access "Members" | 13:48 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so far there's only one member (you), correct? | 13:49 |
| Diza | Yes replaceafill | 13:50 |
| Diza | And yes | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ok, so in your profile page you will see: | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | Diza, a "Edit Profile Picture" button | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | Diza, that currently doesn't work as we want | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | Diza, that's the button i'm going to reuse to allow the administrators to upload pictures | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i'm just going to change how it currently works | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so you will click that and get to a form to upload the picture for the member you're visiting | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | Diza, makes sense? | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | Diza, and if you see in your profile page to the left of your name, there's the "avatar" | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | Diza, which is also square (1:1 ratio) | 13:53 |
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| Diza | I think so replaceafill | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i plan to display the uploaded picture thre | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | there* | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | Diza, and a user can also see their own picture from the Tendenci megamenu :) | 13:53 |
| zOnny | Hello World! | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | Diza, clicking their username in the menu | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so my second question is about this: | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | Diza, sorry, my second part of the plan | 13:54 |
| Diza | Perfect replaceafill | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | Diza, when you visit a member | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | Diza, do you see a Users dropdown in the tendenci megamenu? | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | Diza, if you do click it | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | Diza, you will see several options | 13:55 |
| Diza | Wait | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | Diza, split into "All Users" and "This User" | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | we should screenshare next time ;) | 13:56 |
| Diza | Yes that will help a lot replaceafill | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | Diza, :D | 13:56 |
| Diza | But how? | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | Diza, how do we screenshare? | 13:57 |
| Diza | Yes, I'm texting by my phone | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | Diza, oh lord, really? :D | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i thought you were on a PC! | 13:58 |
| Diza | Hahaha nop, but we can use zONNY laptop | 13:58 |
| Diza | And later on put the chat in the computer replaceafill | 13:59 |
| replaceafill | Diza, https://i.imgur.com/KUK8eSy.png | 13:59 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so there's where I plan to put the "ID Card PDF" link | 14:00 |
| replaceafill | Diza, so you'll click it and get the ID card in pdf | 14:00 |
| replaceafill | Diza, for *that* member | 14:00 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you following this? | 14:01 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 14:01 |
| zOnny | I can help on this replaceafill | 14:02 |
| zOnny | Which is the plan replaceafill | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, just for you to show Diza how to access the Users menu from a members profile | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the one in the screenshot | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://i.imgur.com/KUK8eSy.png | 14:02 |
| zOnny | she is already there replaceafill | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ah ok | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, thanks! | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i know all of this is abstract up to this point | 14:03 |
| Diza | I'm in | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | Diza, but hopefully next time we talk you'll see it working | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i plan to have a rough working version by Thrusday | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | Diza, could we talk then? | 14:04 |
| Diza | Yes | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | Diza, cool, let me know if you have questions/comments | 14:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'd appreciate if you help Diza to set up hangouts | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, either on a pc or her mobile devices :) | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what's the plan with the website? | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that is, NOVA's website :) | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner do you need me to contact nrcerna? | 14:10 |
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| Diza | Replaceafill can you cheek your hangout | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | Diza, ah thanks | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | Diza, want to set a time for meeting on Thursday? | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | Diza, i'm 2 hours behind Virginia btw | 14:14 |
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| Dany | i'm back | 14:15 |
| replaceafill | :) | 14:15 |
| replaceafill | Dany, want to set a time for meeting on Thursday? | 14:16 |
| Dany | sure, what time? <replaceafill> | 14:16 |
| replaceafill | Dany, 11 am your time? | 14:16 |
| replaceafill | Dany, any time after 11 am works for me | 14:17 |
| Dany | sound cool, what about 11:30? <replaceafill> | 14:18 |
| replaceafill | Dany, excellent, 11:30 it is | 14:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, are you around? | 14:20 |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill I asked ncerna about doing the proposal | 14:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, has she responded yet? | 14:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yep but she says let's talk soon! | 14:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok... do you want me to call her? | 14:23 |
| Dany | replaceafill I'm going to uplond the pictures right now | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | Dany, thanks | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner i'm not really sure how you want to handle this | 14:24 |
| zOnny | Jeff was telling me about doing it ASAP replaceafill | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for the record jelkner always says ASAP... | 14:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I do not know how ncerna's schedule is | 14:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why don't we ask her and plan accordingly...? | 14:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner unless you think nrcerna is not necessary.... | 14:25 |
| zOnny | I do not want to push her on doing things ASAP replaceafill | 14:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, well... someone is pushing you my friend | 14:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and when that happens we need to push the ones around us | 14:26 |
| zOnny | I would like get her ideas to have a really good design replaceafill | 14:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that'd be smart | 14:26 |
| jelkner | lol | 14:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let set one thing straight | 14:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this is your project | 14:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, correct? | 14:27 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, zOnny can i share some thoughts on this? | 14:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, please | 14:27 |
| zOnny | it is our project replaceafill | 14:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, touche ;) | 14:27 |
| jelkner | 1. when i think about this from nrcerna's point of view, i can imagine why it is hard for her to get super motivated | 14:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you're in charge of it :P | 14:27 |
| jelkner | we don't really have a business plan at present that includes her that much | 14:28 |
| jelkner | certainly not "full time" | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i was hoping the website could be a way to begin changing that | 14:28 |
| jelkner | we will definitely need a designer, but we aren't there yet | 14:29 |
| jelkner | so i was hoping that nrcerna could feature a lot of her work as part of our portfolio | 14:29 |
| jelkner | since our website could effectively market her skills | 14:29 |
| jelkner | but time is of the essence | 14:29 |
| jelkner | if she is too busy trying to do what she needs to do each day, we can't wait for her | 14:30 |
| jelkner | so she will need to jump in | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, has she said she's too busy yet? | 14:30 |
| jelkner | if she says, "i'm in, please push me" | 14:30 |
| jelkner | then let's push her | 14:30 |
| jelkner | but i want her to tell me it is ok to do that or i don't feel comfortable | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think we're all in the same page, it's just a matter of coordinating, right? | 14:31 |
| jelkner | that's another reason i am so eager to make the trip to el salvador | 14:31 |
| jelkner | except for you, replaceafill, i don't know team guananco yet | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm the pusher for the salvadorean branch | 14:31 |
| jelkner | i mean in interpersonal terms | 14:31 |
| jelkner | so you need to lead on that | 14:31 |
| jelkner | as a cooperative, we all share responsibility | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's why i'm asking zOnny to be *in charge* of the project | 14:32 |
| jelkner | i'm committed to coming in august specifically so that i can get to know mr_german and nrcerna better | 14:32 |
| jelkner | that's the purpose of the trip | 14:32 |
| jelkner | cool | 14:32 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you be *in charge*? | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so he's responsible for nagging people around | 14:32 |
| zOnny | I can start doing it replaceafill | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, please keep me in the loop | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, one problem we have is when we don't CC communication effectively | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's better for me to get flooded with emails | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, than being in the dark | 14:33 |
| jelkner | i try to, replaceafill | 14:33 |
| zOnny | I have shared it with everyone replaceafill | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, until 30 minutes ago i didn't know nrcerna hadn't responded yet | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks for that btw | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's helpful | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes, and my bad for assuming things were moving without my knowledget | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner i'll call nrcerna | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner if she's busy, i'll let you know and we adjust | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to call | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner just called nrcerna | 14:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, she's going to get in touch with you soon | 14:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, she's a bit busy but she's interested in working on this | 14:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, she's just afraid her schedule doesn't match yours | 14:47 |
| zOnny | did she read the irclogs ? replaceafill | 14:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you will need some good planning/coordination | 14:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i narrated the logs to her :) | 14:47 |
| zOnny | cool replaceafill | 14:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, now, the boring side of this | 14:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the technical part | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, how do you plan to approach that? | 14:48 |
| zOnny | well, it is not really to get a meeting on this replaceafill | 14:48 |
| zOnny | she can do the same proposal as she did with national hospital | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's exactly what she said | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and that's exactly what i said :) | 14:48 |
| zOnny | That is all I need | 14:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you've worked like this before | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that project didn't fly | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but maybe this one will | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, :) | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, when do you leave for Pycon? | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i told nrcerna your communication may be intermitent this week because of the conference | 14:50 |
| zOnny | tomorrow replaceafill | 14:52 |
| zOnny | Yeah replaceafill | 14:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 14:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is there anything else you need from me? | 14:52 |
| zOnny | but as I said she can do it without my inference replaceafill | 14:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i agree | 14:52 |
| zOnny | yes replaceafill | 14:53 |
| zOnny | I faced aan issue trought the installation process replaceafill | 14:53 |
| jelkner | hold on, i have something to add | 14:54 |
| jelkner | we are staying for a day of sprints | 14:54 |
| jelkner | starting this sunday night | 14:55 |
| zOnny | ~/venv/bin/python manage.py loaddata themes/tendenci2018/apps/navs/fixtures/nav.json I could not load it replaceafill | 14:55 |
| jelkner | and all the way through monday night | 14:55 |
| jelkner | zOnny should be working on our website | 14:55 |
| jelkner | we need it badly | 14:55 |
| zOnny | I am on it jelkner | 14:55 |
| jelkner | by the time lelkneralfaro and i go to NY | 14:55 |
| jelkner | we want it in place | 14:55 |
| jelkner | that is june 1st | 14:56 |
| jelkner | since we will be doing a lot of networking there | 14:56 |
| zOnny | having the proposal will be easy for me move and get it done jelkner | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you have target dates now | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you need to plan accordingly | 14:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: what you think about my issue | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is the theme called "tendenci2018" in the themes directory? | 14:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'm not sure what instructions you're following | 14:58 |
| zOnny | yep replaceafill | 14:58 |
| zOnny | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X8vp1Rb6gydOEOo545NNcza1eY3cwse47CZ28vQ_nIw/edit# | 14:59 |
| zOnny | the one that we have documented replaceafill | 14:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what error do you get? | 15:00 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we need to update this doc to use our base theme | 15:00 |
| zOnny | give me a 1min replaceafill | 15:00 |
| zOnny | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/dg1xR22JQYleISw0Ce60/ | 15:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it seems like the fixture was already loaded | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh wait | 15:04 |
| zOnny | I cannot wait replaceafill :( | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's a problem with the fixture | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh dude | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you sound too stressed :) | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i blame jelkner | 15:05 |
| zOnny | which feature replaceafill | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, fixture! | 15:05 |
| jelkner | it's all my fault, replaceafill | 15:05 |
| zOnny | *fixture you right replaceafill | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the fixture expects a page to exist in the database | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, set the creative theme back | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and start the instance | 15:06 |
| jelkner | btw, replaceafill, will you have a few minutes for me to talk ora? | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, check if the "creative" pages exist | 15:06 |
| zOnny | ok replaceafill | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 15:06 |
| jelkner | i need to send you, alison, and mike an email | 15:07 |
| jelkner | to get the plan for the forum in place | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, anything you need from me to do that? | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, one question though | 15:08 |
| jelkner | i need to know how the process has been working | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, why do you need a forum again? | 15:08 |
| jelkner | we are going to have a candidate forum | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 15:08 |
| jelkner | for the june 12 democratic primary | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i mean | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, why a forum? | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, both candidates will have users, right? | 15:08 |
| jelkner | we can think about that | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you expect them to have a "conversation" with the ORA members there? | 15:09 |
| jelkner | yes | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so it's like "ask the candidates here" | 15:09 |
| jelkner | mike is in charge of all this, yes? | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what the reddit generation calls AMA (ask me anything) | 15:09 |
| jelkner | i don't want to step on his toes | 15:09 |
| jelkner | i'm just trying to help | 15:09 |
| jelkner | a bit more structured | 15:10 |
| Dany | replaceafill I share already the picture folder and the document with the members info, I 90% sure that I still have the origial picture of member #1 in my personal laptop so I'll upload that later today | 15:10 |
| Dany | also, 2 more members will send me their pictures tonight so I'll upload that as well when I get it, the same with member #5 | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | Dany, i got a share link to a spreadsheet? | 15:11 |
| replaceafill | Dany, and another share link to jelkner's picture :) | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, did you discuss doing it in Facebook? | 15:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm just curious | 15:12 |
| Dany | ups | 15:18 |
| replaceafill | Dany, ah, now i see them | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | Dany, thanks! | 15:19 |
| Dany | I may select Jeff picture by accident replaceafill | 15:19 |
| zOnny | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/TjAFKyO1Sm7g2iFMqFrk/ replaceafill | 15:19 |
| Dany | when I get the missing pictures, I'll text you <replaceafill> | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | Dany, great | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes...? | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you start the instance after that? | 15:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, then go to /pages/search | 15:21 |
| zOnny | seems to work replaceafill | 15:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you have any pages listed? | 15:22 |
| zOnny | 0 pages found replaceafill | 15:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yep | 15:23 |
| zOnny | what it means replaceafill | 15:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you didn't load the creative default data | 15:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://tendenci.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation/installation.html#setting-up-the-site | 15:23 |
| zOnny | I did once I finished the intallation replaceafill | 15:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you did you would have pages :P | 15:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, unless you hard deleted them ;) | 15:24 |
| zOnny | I dont think so replaceafill | 15:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, load the creative defaults | 15:24 |
| zOnny | ok replaceafill | 15:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and then the tendenci2018 fixtures will work | 15:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the tendenci2018 fixtures are looking for data that is not in the database yet | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's why it's failing | 15:25 |
| zOnny | but my others instances work good without it replaceafill | 15:25 |
| zOnny | unless .... | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, don't know man | 15:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, maybe you did sometihng differently here | 15:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you're past the GEOS errors now? | 15:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you're back on track on 18.04? | 15:26 |
| zOnny | I think things change once I upgraded | 15:27 |
| replaceafill | Dany, you should rename picture 12 to have an extension | 15:28 |
| zOnny | https://paste.pound-python.org/show/PMrx7N8CGCmU2kbPLciV/ | 15:28 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, ouch, you created a user with the same id | 15:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and the creative fixture clashes with it | 15:29 |
| zOnny | shoot | 15:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, remind me to show you how i set up testing instances | 15:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and more importantly document it :( | 15:32 |
| zOnny | I can make a document once you teach me that replaceafill | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is there anything else we should discuss about ORA? | 15:35 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, yes | 15:39 |
| jelkner | but i need to get a ride home first | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and i need to get lunch :) | 15:40 |
| jelkner | will you be on irc later? | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, set a time? | 15:40 |
| jelkner | can you give me a range? | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, anything after 4:30 pm works for me | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll be here | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, after 4:30 :) | 15:41 |
| jelkner | 4:30 pm to when? | 15:41 |
| jelkner | a range has *2* values ;-) | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, 7 pm | 15:41 |
| jelkner | lol | 15:41 |
| jelkner | thanks | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i don't mean to be a pain | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, np | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i need to pack for cleveland | 15:42 |
| jelkner | things are crazy | 15:42 |
| jelkner | a bit tough to predict | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i understand | 15:42 |
| jelkner | ok, talk after 4:30 pm | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb at 4:30 pm | 15:49 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 16:47 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, hey, do you have a moment to chat? shouldn't take too long | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, sure | 17:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, great | 17:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm working with Celina now | 17:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and the first thing she is interested in | 17:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, is working on sending out her newsletter | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah ok | 17:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, she would like to maintain her contact list through her site | 17:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and send it out from the site | 17:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, it is about 450 people | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, have you designed the newsletter yet? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i mean, in tendenci | 17:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, nope | 17:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm trying to figure out where to get started | 17:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, im not familiar with this feature | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, unfortunately neither am i :D | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i know how it's supposed to work | 17:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, lol :) | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but we haven't used it | 17:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, this is not very urgent | 17:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but I would like to make steady progress on it in the next few days | 17:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so perhaps we can work together to explore it? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we should | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://www.tendenci.com/help-files/how-do-i-create-newsletter/ | 17:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, you anticipated my question | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, warning, the help files are often outdate | 17:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, if the documentation is good I'll see what I can do | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro iirc hte newsletter is composed from several parts | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, as you can see in the third screenshot | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, articles, news, etc | 17:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I see, this looks like it will be fun | 17:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay, I'll explore this and keep track of any questions I have for you | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, when are you planning to give them a response about it? | 17:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, Celina has not given me a due date | 17:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but hopefully soon | 17:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'll see how much work this looks like it will take | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, cool | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, please share your findings ;) | 17:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, certainly | 17:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, 2 questions | 17:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, first do you know what address the newsletter will be sent from? | 17:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, or how that works at all? | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, tendenci uses django's email system | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, in celina's instance that hasn't been set up yet | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i can set our gmail address for you to test | 17:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, wonderful :) | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you're using celinabenitez.novawebdevelopment.org, correct? | 17:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, let me do that now, doesn't take long | 17:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thanks | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, done | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i recommend you to also explore https://celinabenitez.novawebdevelopment.org/settings | 17:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thank you, I'll check it out | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, some of them are used automatically in the email templates | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, like the organization name, etc | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, cool | 17:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, one other question | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I have been playing around with the home page | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, removing some of the boxes | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, that come with the default | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, just to see how the CMS works | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and I got stuck trying to remove the social media widgets | 17:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, which don't seem to be editable by the "boxes" feature | 17:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so i tried to edit the html with the theme editor | 17:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, which didn't seem to do anything either | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, what social media widgets? | 17:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I was thinking this could be because I don't know what I'm doing with the html | 17:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, or because the theme editor doesn't work | 17:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, actually, they are not widgets, just icon links I think | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, in the footer? https://celinabenitez.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 17:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, they come on the default home page. there is twitter and fb, | 17:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, in the section above the footer | 17:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | oh, nvm | 17:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, they are gone now | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :D | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, so you did remove them ;) | 17:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, it looks like the html theme editor did work | 17:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but it doesn't seem to have happened immediately | 17:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, kinda weird | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, be aware of something | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, the changes you make in the html are very difficult to "reproduce" | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, they're just html files in the server | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but they're not being "tracked" | 17:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I think that I saw that I can return to old versions | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, so it would be difficult to say what you have changed in the theme | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah yes, the changes are versioned | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but that's in the database | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, what you're doing is really what zOnny or mr_german do when they "theme" | 17:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, are those lost at some point? | 17:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, the saved old versions? | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, no, but the current/most updated version may be lost | 17:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay. well I'm just playing around to test it anyway | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, sure, i understand | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, just be aware of it | 17:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thanks for letting me know | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, sure | 17:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay that's all i had | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, glad you're messing with the theme editor | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok | 17:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yeah, I like the theme editor and the admin panel | 17:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, much more powerful | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, indeed | 17:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | ACTION goes off to explore newsletter feature | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, looks promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4DUk919Sm4 | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, a bit more structured than the scattered help files | 17:30 |
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| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool looking forward to checking it out. just sent a test email to myself and it worked. great stuff :) | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :) | 17:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, tried to send a test newsletter and got an error | 17:49 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, "Email relay is not configured properly. Newsletter cannot be sent." | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, let me check | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah! | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, give me a moment and see if i can fix it | 17:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool thanks | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i'm so glad for all the time i've wasted... i mean spent reading about tendenci: https://tendenci.readthedocs.io/en/latest/testing/post-install-checklist.html#basic-functionality-testing | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, the newsletter email settings are independent | 17:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, lol. I have done that with many projects | 17:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I know the feeling | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it's like "this error sounds familiar..." :) | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, could you try again? | 17:56 |
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| jelkner | ping replaceafill | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 17:57 |
| jelkner | is lelkneralfaro here too? | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes, we're testing newsletters :) | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, he is ;) | 17:57 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, while we have been playing telephone tag (a silly game) | 17:57 |
| jelkner | i've heard from ormd that they want us to make a website for them | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh no | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | ACTION breathes in a bag.... | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, great | 17:58 |
| jelkner | lol | 17:58 |
| jelkner | look, man, get ready for the big leagues ;-) | 17:59 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, awesome news | 17:59 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, did you talk money at all? | 17:59 |
| jelkner | ok, the only immediate help i need was to figure out what to say in my email to mike and alison | 17:59 |
| jelkner | no, lelkneralfaro, this is going to be my donation | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, could you explain one thing quickly? | 18:00 |
| jelkner | shoot | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you said mike was in charge of this? | 18:00 |
| jelkner | yes | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you know if he has any idea on how to do it? | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i asked you before about doing it in facebook | 18:00 |
| jelkner | how to do what? | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the "ask the candidate" forum | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | candidates* | 18:01 |
| jelkner | can we hangout | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 18:01 |
| jelkner | my fingers are going to get too tired | 18:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, ahh yes you said that | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ready | 18:02 |
| jelkner | ping replaceafill lelkneralfaro | 19:01 |
| jelkner | can we hangout again? | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | pong jelkner | 19:01 |
| jelkner | i just got off the phone with kyle | 19:01 |
| jelkner | new news ;-) | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i can | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ready | 19:02 |
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| jelkner | good night replaceafill, ubuntourist, and Big_Brother | 20:17 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the evening | 20:18 |
| replaceafill | good night jelkner | 20:18 |
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