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| jelkner | good afternoon, replaceafill | 16:09 |
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| replaceafill | good afternoon jelkner | 16:10 |
| jelkner | just made another transfer | 16:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hm i haven't received the email yet | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i just forwarded you what i got | 16:11 |
| jelkner | when i logged into xoom, it said you can now transfer up to 25K | 16:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, i'll let you know if it arrives | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or if it doesn't :) | 16:13 |
| jelkner | did you see the forwarded email? | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 16:13 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 16:14 |
| jelkner | i can call early next week if there is any hold up | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 16:14 |
| jelkner | anyway, i've been at meetings all day and i'm looking to watch a movie or something relaxing | 16:14 |
| jelkner | so let's talk voting and then let me go relax | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, heh | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you want me to create the election, right? | 16:15 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll save the "tour" for later | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what should the question be like? | 16:15 |
| jelkner | maybe i don't even need a tour | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and a we need a title + description for the election | 16:15 |
| jelkner | since if it is easy enough, i'll just do it | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh no, managing elections is still rough | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i hope voting won't be | 16:16 |
| jelkner | Do You Approve of the AEA-PAC Bylaws as written? | 16:16 |
| jelkner | ___ Yes, I approve | 16:16 |
| jelkner | ___ No, I do not approve | 16:16 |
| jelkner | I think that's it | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, what should be the title for the election? | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what people link on from the elections page | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | s/link/click | 16:17 |
| jelkner | Approval of AEA-PAC Bylaws | 16:17 |
| jelkner | ? | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 16:17 |
| jelkner | how does that sound? | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 16:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, give me a moment to set it up | 16:17 |
| jelkner | btw, is there an easy way for me to email the aea-pac members? | 16:18 |
| jelkner | to let them know about the vote. | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hmm helios kind of has that, but only when you feed it a file with addresses | 16:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like we used to | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you want to use voter aliases for this election? | 16:19 |
| jelkner | ? | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, (hiding people's name in the voters list) | 16:19 |
| jelkner | ? | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, after the election is done | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, voters can go back to it | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and see who voted | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, there's an option to hide the names | 16:20 |
| jelkner | sure, hide the names | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and helios only tells you *your* alias | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 16:20 |
| jelkner | the goal is secure, verifiable, anonymous | 16:20 |
| jelkner | i understand the goal, but not the solution :-( | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok ready | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://aeava.org/ | 16:21 |
| jelkner | i'm there already | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, log in and under Community you should have a new "Elections" option | 16:22 |
| jelkner | Cool, I voted!!! ;-) | 16:22 |
| jelkner | now how do we tell the other members they can vote? | 16:23 |
| jelkner | i don't know how to inform them | 16:23 |
| jelkner | or even who they are | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, again, helios can do that, but | 16:23 |
| jelkner | that's what we are going to need our system to be able to do | 16:23 |
| jelkner | why helios? | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | 1. only admins can do it | 16:23 |
| jelkner | we are going to want members in tendenci | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | 2. not with this type of authentication | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, correct | 16:24 |
| jelkner | so keri can do it? | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but helios doesn't know about member emails (yet) | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i just don't understand what we do now | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no | 16:24 |
| jelkner | we need to complete the election | 16:24 |
| jelkner | how? | 16:24 |
| jelkner | think on this | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, how did you tell them about the forums? | 16:25 |
| jelkner | so, on monday i can call keri, and search through my email to find the email she sent me with the members | 16:25 |
| jelkner | hopefully, the all have accounts | 16:25 |
| jelkner | but our whole point here is to increase organziational power | 16:26 |
| jelkner | we want workflow to be fast and efficient | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i have access to that | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh | 16:26 |
| jelkner | that's what we need to build | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can test something if you want | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what should the email say? | 16:26 |
| jelkner | if we have committees, and committees conduct votes | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, tendenci has the ability to email *groups* | 16:26 |
| jelkner | that's what i want | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and this election is for the AEA-PAC group only | 16:26 |
| jelkner | dear aea-pac members, | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, should we try it? | 16:27 |
| jelkner | there is an election to approve bylaws available for you to particpate in on our website... | 16:27 |
| jelkner | etc. | 16:27 |
| jelkner | then, "Click" | 16:27 |
| jelkner | and the members receive a notice | 16:27 |
| jelkner | i can write that up as a user story if you like | 16:27 |
| jelkner | tomorrow | 16:28 |
| jelkner | in fact | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i don't think we'll implement that fast enough | 16:28 |
| jelkner | we probably want a story that combines these two things into one story | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Tendenci already has a way to mass email group members | 16:28 |
| jelkner | so when you create the vote, you create the message, and when you activate the vote, the message goes out | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 16:29 |
| jelkner | let's work on that tomorrow | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so contacting the members at the moment is not as urgent as i think? | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, we can hold for a bit? | 16:29 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, i'll email ingrid and keri on monday and ask for the list again | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i have the list!!!!! | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i have admin in the instance!!!! | 16:29 |
| jelkner | oh, can you send it to me, please? | 16:30 |
| jelkner | i'll send an email to them tomorrow | 16:30 |
| jelkner | and write up the story for next time | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think you're misunderstanding me my friend | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, *i* as admin can contact the members *right now* | 16:30 |
| jelkner | oh, nice! | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hold on | 16:31 |
| jelkner | yes, please do | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://i.imgur.com/ekTHQgW.png | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's what i'm seeing at the moment | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i only need a subject and a message | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that makes sense in *our current* situation | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and i can send it now | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and we can expand/refine/work on the more complete story tomorrow/later | 16:32 |
| jelkner | Subject: Please Vote on Approval of AEA-PAC Bylaws | 16:32 |
| jelkner | Message: | 16:32 |
| jelkner | Dear AEA-PAC Members, | 16:33 |
| jelkner | Please login to our website and Select "Community" -> "Elections" on the menu at the very top of the page. | 16:34 |
| jelkner | From there, you will see an "Open Elections" section with "Approval of AEA-PAC Bylaws" listed. | 16:34 |
| jelkner | Please take a few minutes to vote yes or no on approval of our bylaws. | 16:35 |
| jelkner | Thanks! | 16:35 |
| jelkner | Jeff Elkner | 16:35 |
| jelkner | AEA-PAC Chair | 16:35 |
| jelkner | Sound good? | 16:35 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mejor imposible! | 16:35 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:35 |
| jelkner | thanks, man | 16:36 |
| jelkner | this is great | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sending | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hope this crap works :D | 16:36 |
| jelkner | let's talk more tomorrow | 16:36 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:36 |
| jelkner | a *BIG* +1 | 16:36 |
| jelkner | it worked beautfully for me | 16:36 |
| jelkner | later gater | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, later | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks a lot! | 16:36 |
| jelkner | thank you!!!! | 16:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 16:37 |
| jelkner | til zOnny picks him up at 8:20 am tomorrow | 16:37 |
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