IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2018-06-09

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jelknergood afternoon, replaceafill 16:09
replaceafillgood afternoon jelkner16:10
jelknerjust made another transfer16:10
replaceafilljelkner, hm i haven't received the email yet16:10
jelkneri just forwarded you what i got16:11
jelknerwhen i logged into xoom, it said you can now transfer up to 25K16:12
replaceafilljelkner, well, i'll let you know if it arrives16:13
replaceafilljelkner, or if it doesn't :)16:13
jelknerdid you see the forwarded email?16:13
replaceafilljelkner, yes16:13
jelknerokie dokie16:14
jelkneri can call early next week if there is any hold up16:14
replaceafilljelkner, sure16:14
jelkneranyway, i've been at meetings all day and i'm looking to watch a movie or something relaxing16:14
jelknerso let's talk voting and then let me go relax16:14
replaceafilljelkner, heh16:14
replaceafilljelkner, ok16:15
replaceafilljelkner, you want me to create the election, right?16:15
jelkner+116:15
replaceafilljelkner, i'll save the "tour" for later16:15
replaceafilljelkner, what should the question be like?16:15
jelknermaybe i don't even need a tour16:15
replaceafilljelkner, and a we need a title + description for the election16:15
jelknersince if it is easy enough, i'll just do it16:15
replaceafilljelkner, sure16:16
replaceafilljelkner, oh no, managing elections is still rough16:16
replaceafilljelkner, i hope voting won't be16:16
jelknerDo You Approve of the AEA-PAC Bylaws as written?16:16
jelkner___ Yes, I approve16:16
jelkner___ No, I do not approve16:16
jelknerI think that's it16:16
replaceafilljelkner, cool, what should be the title for the election?16:16
replaceafilljelkner, what people link on from the elections page16:17
replaceafills/link/click16:17
jelknerApproval of AEA-PAC Bylaws16:17
jelkner?16:17
replaceafilljelkner, cool16:17
jelknerhow does that sound?16:17
replaceafilljelkner, +116:17
replaceafilljelkner, give me a moment to set it up16:17
jelknerbtw, is there an easy way for me to email the aea-pac members?16:18
jelknerto let them know about the vote.16:18
replaceafilljelkner, hmm helios kind of has that, but only when you feed it a file with addresses16:18
replaceafilljelkner, like we used to16:19
replaceafilljelkner, do you want to use voter aliases for this election?16:19
jelkner?16:19
replaceafilljelkner, (hiding people's name in the voters list)16:19
jelkner?16:19
replaceafilljelkner, after the election is done16:19
replaceafilljelkner, voters can go back to it16:19
replaceafilljelkner, and see who voted16:19
replaceafilljelkner, there's an option to hide the names16:20
jelknersure, hide the names16:20
replaceafilljelkner, and helios only tells you *your* alias16:20
replaceafilljelkner, cool16:20
jelknerthe goal is secure, verifiable, anonymous 16:20
jelkneri understand the goal, but not the solution :-(16:21
replaceafilljelkner, ok ready16:21
replaceafilljelkner, https://aeava.org/16:21
jelkneri'm there already16:21
replaceafilljelkner, log in and under Community you should have a new "Elections" option16:22
jelknerCool, I voted!!! ;-)16:22
jelknernow how do we tell the other members they can vote?16:23
jelkneri don't know how to inform them16:23
jelkneror even who they are16:23
replaceafilljelkner, again, helios can do that, but16:23
jelknerthat's what we are going to need our system to be able to do16:23
jelknerwhy helios?16:23
replaceafill1. only admins can do it16:23
jelknerwe are going to want members in tendenci16:23
replaceafill2. not with this type of authentication16:23
replaceafilljelkner, correct16:24
jelknerso keri can do it?16:24
replaceafilljelkner, but helios doesn't know about member emails (yet)16:24
jelkneri just don't understand what we do now16:24
replaceafilljelkner, no16:24
jelknerwe need to complete the election16:24
jelknerhow?16:24
jelknerthink on this16:25
replaceafilljelkner, how did you tell them about the forums?16:25
jelknerso, on monday i can call keri, and search through my email to find the email she sent me with the members16:25
jelknerhopefully, the all have accounts16:25
jelknerbut our whole point here is to increase organziational power16:26
jelknerwe want workflow to be fast and efficient16:26
replaceafilljelkner, i have access to that16:26
replaceafilljelkner, oh16:26
jelknerthat's what we need to build16:26
replaceafilljelkner, we can test something if you want16:26
replaceafilljelkner, what should the email say?16:26
jelknerif we have committees, and committees conduct votes16:26
replaceafilljelkner, tendenci has the ability to email *groups*16:26
jelknerthat's what i want16:26
replaceafilljelkner, and this election is for the AEA-PAC group only16:26
jelknerdear aea-pac members,16:27
replaceafilljelkner, should we try it?16:27
jelknerthere is an election to approve bylaws available for you to particpate in on our website...16:27
jelkneretc.16:27
jelknerthen, "Click"16:27
jelknerand the members receive a notice16:27
jelkneri can write that up as a user story if you like16:27
jelknertomorrow16:28
jelknerin fact16:28
replaceafilljelkner, i don't think we'll implement that fast enough16:28
jelknerwe probably want a story that combines these two things into one story16:28
replaceafilljelkner, Tendenci already has a way to mass email group members16:28
jelknerso when you create the vote, you create the message, and when you activate the vote, the message goes out16:28
replaceafilljelkner, +116:29
jelknerlet's work on that tomorrow16:29
replaceafilljelkner, so contacting the members at the moment is not as urgent as i think?16:29
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, we can hold for a bit?16:29
jelknerin the mean time, i'll email ingrid and keri on monday and ask for the list again16:29
replaceafilljelkner, i have the list!!!!!16:29
replaceafilljelkner, i have admin in the instance!!!!16:29
jelkneroh, can you send it to me, please?16:30
jelkneri'll send an email to them tomorrow16:30
jelknerand write up the story for next time16:30
replaceafilljelkner, i think you're misunderstanding me my friend16:30
replaceafilljelkner, *i* as admin can contact the members *right now*16:30
jelkneroh, nice!16:31
replaceafilljelkner, hold on16:31
jelkneryes, please do16:31
replaceafilljelkner, https://i.imgur.com/ekTHQgW.png16:31
replaceafilljelkner, that's what i'm seeing at the moment16:32
replaceafilljelkner, i only need a subject and a message16:32
replaceafilljelkner, that makes sense in *our current* situation16:32
replaceafilljelkner, and i can send it now16:32
replaceafilljelkner, and we can expand/refine/work on the more complete story tomorrow/later16:32
jelknerSubject: Please Vote on Approval of AEA-PAC Bylaws16:32
jelknerMessage:16:32
jelknerDear AEA-PAC Members,16:33
jelknerPlease login to our website and Select "Community" -> "Elections" on the menu at the very top of the page.16:34
jelknerFrom there, you will see an "Open Elections" section with "Approval of AEA-PAC Bylaws" listed.16:34
jelknerPlease take a few minutes to vote yes or no on approval of our bylaws.16:35
jelknerThanks!16:35
jelknerJeff Elkner16:35
jelknerAEA-PAC Chair16:35
jelknerSound good?16:35
jelknerreplaceafill, 16:35
replaceafilljelkner, mejor imposible!16:35
jelknerlol16:35
jelknerthanks, man16:36
jelknerthis is great16:36
replaceafilljelkner, sending16:36
replaceafilljelkner, hope this crap works :D16:36
jelknerlet's talk more tomorrow16:36
jelkner+116:36
jelknera *BIG* +116:36
jelknerit worked beautfully for me16:36
jelknerlater gater16:36
replaceafilljelkner, later16:36
replaceafilljelkner, thanks a lot!16:36
jelknerthank you!!!!16:36
jelknerACTION signs off for the day16:37
jelknertil zOnny picks him up at 8:20 am tomorrow16:37
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