IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2018-06-11

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dsmallgood morning replaceafill \10:57
replaceafillgood morning dsmall10:57
dsmallreplaceafill, tomorrow is my last day, what else do you want me to get done?10:58
replaceafilldsmall, ah ok10:58
dsmallreplaceafill, I am still trying to get comment threads to work10:58
replaceafilldsmall, having the basic comment functionality would be great10:59
replaceafilldsmall, for any page10:59
dsmallreplaceafill, That is already done :)10:59
replaceafilldsmall, could you write a setup doc for it?10:59
replaceafilldsmall, "Adding comments to Tendenci pages"11:00
dsmallreplaceafill, There is already a setup guide for the package11:00
replaceafilldsmall, i assume the comments work can be separated from the blog work, right?11:00
replaceafilldsmall, ah cool, so listing the links you used may be enough11:01
dsmallreplaceafill, what do you mean by separated?11:01
dsmallreplaceafill, okay11:01
replaceafilldsmall, they're independent tasks11:01
replaceafilldsmall, we could add only comments to an existing instance for example11:01
dsmallreplaceafill, correct11:01
dsmallreplaceafill, they are independent of each other11:02
replaceafilldsmall, so i like to write small set up docs like the one you used to set up the theme: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10mHwrq4P1Mpm3TPA1OUesqCgu-r921X5aoaTptT_BDM/edit11:03
replaceafilldsmall, even if that's already documented somewhere else11:03
dsmallreplaceafill, Alright11:03
replaceafilldsmall, it avoids the other developers the look up11:04
dsmallreplaceafill, right11:04
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DallyBuenos Dias 11:05
replaceafillbuenos dias Dally11:05
Dallyreplaceafill, hola, como estas?11:06
replaceafillDally, bien y vos?11:06
replaceafillDally, vi que agregaste un nuevo issue11:06
Dallyreplaceafill, todo bien. oh genial me alegra. Estuve mirando la pagina de Our revolution para sacar ideas de mas o menos que me gustaria en la pagina de NOVALACIRO11:07
replaceafillDally, ah, sí, lo del listado de eventos ya lo tenemos11:08
replaceafillDally, solo hay que ajustarlo para el diseño de NOVALACIRO11:08
replaceafillDally, no debería tomar demasiado tiempo11:08
Dallyreplaceafill, oh perfecto, y si se podra lo de programar los eventos para que no se vean en la pagina principal despues de la fecha?11:09
replaceafillDally, sí, así funciona el listado de Our Revolution Arlington11:09
replaceafillDally, es automatico11:10
Dallyreplaceafill, fantastico!!!11:10
replaceafillDally, alguna vez has hecho mocks graficos para sitios web?11:10
Dallyreplaceafill, no pero si son graficos los puedo aprender a hacer rapido11:11
replaceafillDally, dejame buscar un ejemplo...11:11
Dallyreplaceafill, ok :D11:11
dsmallreplaceafill, while making the setup doc, I realized I set up my own instance wrong, but now that I fixed it threaded comments work.11:14
replaceafilldsmall, ah nice11:14
replaceafillDally, te acabo de enviar el link en mensaje privado11:16
replaceafillDally, avisame si lo podes ver11:16
replaceafilldsmall, for you docs you can assume a tendenci instance is already in place11:18
replaceafilldsmall, i usually get away with just pointing to ~/tendenci-project and ~/venv11:18
Dallyreplaceafill, no me ha llegado nada a ningun correo :(11:18
replaceafillDally, no, te lo mandé por IRC11:18
dsmallreplaceafill, okay 11:19
replaceafillDally, dejame enviartelo por correo11:19
Dallyreplaceafill, ok gracias11:19
replaceafillDally, enviado11:21
replaceafillDally, es la imagen que dice NOVA SITE.png11:21
Dallyreplaceafill, ok voy a verla11:22
replaceafillDally, como verás es sólo una idea de como la diseñadora "imagina" el sitio web11:24
replaceafillDally, luego el desarrollador tiene la tarea de crear algo lo más cercano posible11:24
replaceafillDally, segun tu nuevo issue: "tener los eventos a un lado de la pagina, como una columna y que cuando un evento pase, este desaparesca de la pagina principal"11:25
replaceafillDally, parece que tenes la idea clara de como lo queres ver11:25
Dallyreplaceafill, y lo que necesitas es que haga algo parecido a eso para darte una idea de lo que tengo en mente?11:25
replaceafillDally, si no te toma mucho tiempo sí11:26
Dallyreplaceafill, pues si, tengo algo clara la idea pero no es al 100% aun11:26
replaceafillDally, nos ahorraría muchas pregutnas :)11:26
replaceafillDally, es igual que con los mocks de las ID cards11:26
replaceafillDally, yo sólo tuve que llegar lo mas cerca posible11:26
Dallyreplaceafill, perfecto, y como podria yo hacer esa imagen? la hago por PS?11:27
replaceafillDally, con la herramienta que querás, con sólo que la exportes a jpg o png11:28
replaceafillDally, para yo poderla ver11:28
replaceafillDally, y la podes adjuntar al mismo issue11:28
replaceafillDally, así mantenemos toda la información de tu petición en un sólo lugar11:28
replaceafillDally, y cuando sean cambios de funcionalidad, sentite en la libertad de proponer de esta forma11:28
Dallyreplaceafill, ok me pondre a eso entonces y cuando la tenga te la mandare11:29
replaceafillDally, a mi me ayuda mucho11:29
replaceafillDally, genial11:29
replaceafillDally, gracias!11:29
replaceafillDally, vas a ver que una vez tengamos el mock no tomara mas que un par de horas11:29
replaceafilljelkner, good morning11:33
jelknerGood morning, replaceafill!11:33
jelknerAs you can see from your email inbox, i've been busy ;-)11:33
replaceafilljelkner, i don't think you need anything from me to create the Education Commitee section11:33
jelknerreally?11:33
replaceafilljelkner, you have admin in the ORA site11:33
jelkneri do?11:33
replaceafilljelkner, yes11:34
jelknerdid roshan approve that?11:34
replaceafilljelkner, i have no idea how you got admin to be honest11:34
jelknerwe better check with roshan and mike11:34
replaceafilljelkner, but i noticed it when you filed the forums issue11:34
replaceafilljelkner, because of your screenshot11:34
replaceafilljelkner, it was funny because Mike already filed this: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/ora-ams/issues/2411:34
jelknersince i don't want privileges that i haven't been granted through proper processes11:35
replaceafilljelkner, and you were not listed :D11:35
replaceafilljelkner, i thought Roshan gave you access11:35
replaceafilljelkner, but i agree11:35
jelkneri want to be really careful not to have any privileges that come from my relationship with novawebdeve11:35
replaceafilljelkner, +`11:35
jelknerif he did, we are fine11:35
replaceafill+111:35
jelkneri'll check with him11:35
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:35
dsmallreplaceafill, I think I'm done with the guide11:50
dsmallreplaceafill, https://docs.google.com/document/d/10PuZK8sL4NgIkDrDvVxeBkkMVzOdaXhP3Pwn6iJsfS8/edit?usp=sharing11:51
dsmallreplaceafill, I also shared it with you11:51
replaceafilldsmall, looks good11:51
replaceafilldsmall, is there any set up needed inside the application?11:52
replaceafilldsmall, i mean to enable/customize comments11:52
dsmallreplaceafill, nope, once you migrate it should work11:52
dsmallreplaceafill, the most important setting would be "COMMENTS_XTD_MAX_THREAD_LEVEL = 4"11:52
replaceafilldsmall, ah ok11:53
dsmallreplaceafill, but I feel like that one is self-explanatory 11:53
replaceafilldsmall, sure11:53
replaceafilldsmall, and you added the link to the docs at the top, so that's fine11:53
dsmallreplaceafill, yup11:53
replaceafilldsmall, but then you need some change in the theme, correct?11:54
replaceafilldsmall, to customize the page view11:54
dsmallreplaceafill, yes, I can add how to do that11:54
replaceafilldsmall, please11:54
replaceafilldsmall, pointing to your personal gitlab branches is fine11:55
replaceafilldsmall, as long as you don't delete the repos :D11:55
dsmallreplaceafill, Okay!11:55
replaceafilljelkner, database backups + IRC logs are beatiful: http://novawebdevelopment.com/irclogs/2017-12-11.log.html#t17:45:1911:59
replaceafilljelkner, you've had admin since December 2017 :)11:59
replaceafilljelkner, when we just set up the tendenci instance11:59
jelknerahh, that was a mistake11:59
jelknerif roshan says ok, we' can just leave it12:00
jelknertoday is my last day with students12:00
jelkneri have grades to do, and end of year clean up and sign out12:00
jelknerbut i'll have more and more time starting now to work on website content12:01
replaceafilljelkner, kk, i'll leave you be12:01
jelknerno man, i'm fine now12:01
replaceafilljelkner, oh oh12:01
jelkneri'm just saying12:01
replaceafilljelkner, that means trouble!12:01
jelkneryou bet!12:01
Dallyreplaceafill, oh mientras trabajo en la grafica, queria hacerte una pregunta12:09
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mr_germangood morning jelkner, replaceafill 12:10
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replaceafillDally, cecime12:10
replaceafillDally, decime12:10
replaceafillgood morning mr_german12:10
replaceafillmr_german, how did the ORMD meeting go?12:10
mr_germanreplaceafill, really good12:10
mr_german:)12:11
replaceafillmr_german, excellent!12:11
mr_germanreplaceafill, i have work to do12:11
mr_german;)12:11
dsmallreplaceafill, Added the integration section12:11
replaceafillmr_german, go go go12:11
Dallyreplaceafill, abri thunderbird en mi computadora personal en casa pero note que el "address book" estaba bacio. No me importa meter todos los datos de nuevo pero me preguntaba si eso era normal o si habia metido la pata 12:12
replaceafillDally, no, el address book es local para tu instalación12:13
replaceafillDally, o sea sólo funciona en esa computadora12:13
replaceafillDally, pero se puede exportar/importar12:13
replaceafillDally, es lo que yo hacía en mi trabajo anterior12:13
replaceafillDally, me lo llevaba del trabajo a la casa12:14
Dallyreplaceafill, oh ok no hay problema12:15
Dallyreplaceafill, aunque me volvio a rebotar un email aunque este no era de hotmail. te mandare la pantalla por email12:16
replaceafillDally, ah ok, gracias12:16
replaceafillDally, no has vuelta a probar hotmail_12:16
replaceafillvuelto*12:16
Dallyreplaceafill, no aun12:18
replaceafilldsmall, thanks for the integration section, looks good12:19
replaceafilldsmall, could you create a separate doc for the blog functionality?12:20
dsmallreplaceafill, sure12:20
replaceafilldsmall, same approach, what changes are needed in the project configuration, etc12:20
dsmallreplaceafill, I'm not sure how much I remember, but I'll throw something together12:21
replaceafillDally, este no es el primero que me enviaste?12:22
replaceafillDally, y acabo de recibir otro error12:23
replaceafillDally, anda a la instancia y Community -> Members (admin)12:24
replaceafillDally, el correo del ID 30 está mal12:24
Dallyreplaceafill, ups. mi error, envie el que no era12:25
Dallyreplaceafill, ya te lo volvi a enviar12:25
Dallyreplaceafill, a que te refieres con que el ID 30 esta mal?12:25
replaceafillDally, ves el miembro con ID 30?12:26
replaceafillDally, mirá su dirección de email12:26
Dallyreplaceafill, si, ese miembro no tiene correo electronico12:26
Dallyreplaceafill, por eso le puse n/a para poder ponerlo en la base de datos ya que no me lo aceptaba de ninguna otra forma12:26
replaceafillDally, ah ok, el problema es que Tendenci trata de enviarle correos12:26
replaceafillDally, como hoy que le aprobaste su membresía12:27
Dallyreplaceafill, aunque el correo que envie no fue para los miembros, fue una respuesta de un miembro que me estaba presentando a alguien que podria ser parte de la organizacion12:28
replaceafillDally, ah sí ya lo vi12:28
replaceafillDally, es el mismo problema con hotmail12:28
replaceafillDally,aunque tu contacto usa un dominio diferente12:29
Dallyreplaceafill, oh12:29
replaceafillDally, en realidad es un correo outlook12:29
replaceafillDally, investigaré12:29
Dallyreplaceafill, gracias12:30
Dallyreplaceafill, ire a almorzar, hablamos luego12:30
replaceafillDally, ok, buen provecho o-12:30
replaceafillo/12:30
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zOnnyhey replaceafill 12:59
replaceafillhey zOnny13:00
zOnnybusy ?13:00
replaceafillzOnny, running to a meeting13:00
replaceafillzOnny, bb in ~3013:00
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok13:00
replaceafillzOnny, back13:23
replaceafillzOnny, anything you need?13:24
zOnnyI am testing biligual language in the TIENDITA project replaceafill 13:26
replaceafillzOnny, ah13:26
replaceafillzOnny, do you have a public URL to share?13:26
zOnnyand my { blocktrans with %} doesn't respond well :(13:26
replaceafillzOnny, where's your code?13:27
replaceafillzOnny, i can take a look if you want13:27
zOnnyI don't want to distract to you at all replaceafill 13:30
replaceafillzOnny, if it's blocking you somehow it may be worth13:30
replaceafillzOnny, your call really13:30
replaceafillzOnny, if you can have broken translations for a while, fine13:31
replaceafillzOnny, i have time13:31
jelknerzOnny, where are you?13:31
jelknermjsir911 is here asking about you13:31
jelknerhe wants to work on the bikeshare project13:31
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zOnnyreplaceafill: have you used {% blocktrans with %} before ?13:32
replaceafillzOnny, i think so13:33
zOnnymy {% trans "" %} works perfectly replaceafill 13:33
replaceafillzOnny, it's a variable definition to be used in the translation, right?13:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: correct13:33
zOnnyjelkner: Is mjsir911 there ?13:35
jelknerzOnny, yes he is.13:35
jelknerhe is even on our irc channel now, so you can ask him directly ;-)13:36
zOnnyIs weird that he is asking for me ?13:36
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zOnnyreplaceafill: what it means https://imgur.com/a/nVK6gaq13:40
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replaceafillzOnny, your second assignment expression is wrong13:50
replaceafillzOnny, you're assigning another assignment which is not valid python13:50
replaceafillzOnny, you probably want just total_price=cart.get_total_price %}13:50
replaceafills/valid python/valid django template/13:51
dsmallreplaceafill, I think the blog guide is done, I could only think of two things that need to be done13:53
dsmallreplaceafill, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EwF4U9OADjkezvh_MOgHTxpp-Rf6p4CLMEQqP2GauPo/edit?usp=sharing13:53
replaceafilldsmall, that's fine13:54
dsmallreplaceafill, okay, if I think of anything else I will add it13:54
replaceafilldsmall, thanks!13:55
dsmallreplaceafill, you're welcome :)13:55
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jelknerreplaceafill14:24
jelkneryou here?14:24
replaceafilljelkner, yes14:25
dsmallreplaceafill, is there anything else you'd like me to do?14:28
replaceafilldsmall, i don't think so14:28
replaceafilldsmall, i'm going to test your docs later this week14:28
replaceafilldsmall, not sure when though14:29
replaceafilldsmall, but i plan to deploy the blog for one of our instances soon14:29
dsmallreplaceafill, awesome!14:29
replaceafilldsmall, even if you're not around here i'll mention you in the gitlab issue so you get the notification14:30
dsmallreplaceafill, Okay cool14:31
jelknerreplaceafill, are we ready to add alison's petition to the ora website?14:43
jelknerlike replacefill said earlier, jelkner with added free time means *trouble*! ;-)14:44
replaceafilljelkner, alison's petition?14:44
jelknerhold on14:44
jelknerhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/ora-ams/issues/2814:55
jelknerreplaceafill, you're right, having me with free time means trouble14:56
jelknersince i want to use our websites to organize folks14:56
replaceafilljelkner, :)14:56
jelknerso i'll be working hard this month to do that14:56
replaceafilljelkner, good thing is that we'll move forward now14:56
jelkner+114:56
replaceafilljelkner, hopefully...14:56
replaceafill:)14:56
jelknernot hopefully, *definitely*!14:57
replaceafilljelkner, what you want is not possible at this time unfortunately14:57
replaceafilljelkner, the petitions story14:57
jelknerwe are building a database application in reality14:57
replaceafilljelkner, this is ORA's current petition page: https://ourrevolutionarlington.us/petitions/14:57
replaceafilljelkner, which are just links to other sites14:57
jelkneromg, it's done already!14:57
replaceafilljelkner, no14:57
jelknerno, we don't want to link to other sites14:58
replaceafilljelkner, it cannot track who signed the pettion14:58
jelknerexactly14:58
jelknerlike we said many months ago, "it's all about the data!"14:58
replaceafilljelkner, i do remember our conversation about the feature14:58
jelknerwe are going to want to store, track, and analyze data14:59
jelknerthat's where our real product will be over time14:59
replaceafilljelkner, hhmmm14:59
replaceafilljelkner, any person can sign a petition, right?15:00
jelkneryes15:00
replaceafilljelkner, like me for example15:00
replaceafilljelkner, ok15:00
jelknerso they won't be members15:00
replaceafilljelkner, so you'll need either a checkbox or soemthing15:00
replaceafilljelkner, telling them that you're going to store their data15:00
jelknerwe will probably ask for name, email, and zip code15:00
jelkneri understand there may be bogus data15:02
jelknerbut one outcome of the process will hopefully be an email list of folks interested in education that we can email to when we have an education event15:02
replaceafilljelkner, heh, look "WIll from None None None, NJ"15:03
jelknersigning a petition demonstrates a very low level of support for an issue15:03
replaceafilljelkner, even big sites have small issues :)15:03
replaceafilljelkner, oh, look, moveon.org does it: "Note: By signing, you agree to receive email messages from MoveOn.org Civic Action and MoveOn.org Political Action. You may unsubscribe at any time."15:03
replaceafilljelkner, and they have a Privacy Policy15:03
jelknerso here is where the fun starts15:04
jelknermy personal feeling is we want to empower people to participate in the political revolution15:04
jelknerbut they should be in control15:04
jelknerso my dream petition application would allow users to:15:06
jelkner1. sign the petition to indicate their support15:06
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jelkner2. "opt in" (through a checkbox) to receive emails from us15:06
jelkneri want a high quality list15:07
jelknersince as a completely volunteer organization, we don't have time to deal with a lot of bad data15:07
replaceafilljelkner, what does "high quality list" mean?15:07
jelknerso if folks don't check the box (which should be easy to see), they don't get added to the list15:07
jelknerit means that:15:08
replaceafilljelkner, but they still get added as signers, correct?15:08
jelkner1. The names and emails on the list are real15:08
jelkner2. The folks who are on the contact list want to be contacted (thus increasing the probability they will respond)15:09
jelkner+1, replaceafill 15:09
replaceafilljelkner, is it necessary to set a cap of signatures?15:09
replaceafilljelkner, like moveon.org does15:10
replaceafill35 signatures. NEW goal - We need 50!15:10
replaceafilljelkner, and should the list of signatures be displayed?15:10
jelknerahh, another good question15:11
jelknermy immediate thought is another checkbox15:11
jelknerso folks can "opt in" to displaying their name (not their email)15:11
jelkneri'll chat with alison about this tonight15:12
replaceafilljelkner, i'd propose to keep it simple15:13
replaceafilljelkner, in my opinion this doesn't require much *new* functionality15:13
replaceafilljelkner, it could be done with tendenci forms + a smart template15:13
replaceafilljelkner, the smart template does the filtering work15:14
replaceafilljelkner, and knows what for entries to show15:14
replaceafillform entries*15:14
jelkneryou're the doctor, replaceafill 15:26
jelkneri'm just the customer15:26
jelknerwe can test it in practice15:26
replaceafill:)15:26
jelknerand see how it works15:26
replaceafilljelkner, i'd like to get the helios administrative workflow simplified first15:27
replaceafilljelkner, it's still too many steps15:27
jelknerto quote Deng Xiaoping, "i don't care if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice." ;-)15:27
replaceafill:D15:27
jelknerokie dokie15:28
jelknerwe have a meeting of the education committee on 6/1815:28
jelknerwe won't do anything with the petition until then in any case15:28
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok15:28
jelknerbtw. did my ToDo list look ok?15:28
replaceafilljelkner, it did to me yes15:29
replaceafilljelkner, i'm focusing on 2. at the moment15:29
replaceafilljelkner, hope to get to 4. on wednesday15:29
replaceafilljelkner, and by 4. i mean deploying dsmall blog feature15:30
replaceafilljelkner, because we already have the rest15:30
jelknernice15:36
jelknerdsmall will be really happy to see that15:36
jelknerhe just left15:36
jelknerschool is over for students now15:36
jelkneruntil september15:36
jelknerthey just left15:36
jelknerall is quiet15:37
replaceafilljelkner, peace!15:37
replaceafill:D15:37
jelknerto be honest, replaceafill, i can't wait until september15:37
jelkneri'm going to have a group of 10th graders who will be in calculus15:37
replaceafilljelkner, ah15:37
jelknerthey are *very* dedicated15:38
jelknerand isaac says they are super to work with15:38
replaceafill:)15:38
jelknerthey are taking new work precalculus over the summer15:38
jelknerso they can take calculus and computer science next year15:38
jelknerthey will be the first group trying to earn their associates degree in cs at the same time they graduate from high school15:39
replaceafilljelkner, wow15:39
jelknersince more than half of them are young women15:39
jelkneri plan to invite Django Girls to do weekend workshops here next year15:39
jelknerso the possibilities are really exciting15:40
replaceafilljelkner, i've been telling nrcerna about them15:40
jelkneri had one of them in class this year as a nineth grader15:40
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jelknerlook what she did for me filing issues: https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=closed15:41
replaceafilljelkner, wow good customer15:42
replaceafill:)15:42
jelkner+115:42
jelknershe was wonderful to work with15:42
jelknersuch a critical reader15:43
jelknerand very thorough15:43
jelknershe taught hrodriguez how to file issues this morning15:43
jelkneroh, i gotta run15:43
jelkneraea and then ora meeting today15:43
replaceafilljelkner, later o/15:43
jelknerlater, my friend15:43
jelknerlet's talk more tomorrow15:44
replaceafillsure15:44
jelknerACTION signs off for the day15:44
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4515:45
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zOnnyreplaceafill: you right16:06
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was repeating twice it :(16:06
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks a lot 16:07
replaceafillACTION is back16:34
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zOnnyreplaceafill: are you around ?18:05
replaceafillzOnny, yes18:05
zOnnyreplaceafill: where can I change the default encoding from 'ascii' to 'utf8' ?18:06
replaceafillzOnny, i don't understand your question18:07
replaceafillzOnny, why don't you tell me what you want/need to do first18:07
zOnnyI am trying to make responsive my spanish language replaceafill 18:10
zOnnybut I am facing the Unicode data :(18:10
replaceafillzOnny, ah and you're getting any error?18:10
zOnnyyep replaceafill 18:11
replaceafillzOnny, do you have any non-ascii text in your python files?18:12
zOnnyI dont thing so18:12
zOnnyI think I am missing that replaceafill 18:12
replaceafillzOnny, can you paste the error?18:13
zOnnywell, I don't now what exactly I am doing :D18:14
replaceafillzOnny, ok18:14
zOnnyreplaceafill: sure18:14
replaceafillzOnny, https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/#defining-the-encoding18:14
zOnnyreplaceafill: checking18:15
zOnnyreplaceafill: https://imgur.com/a/YCpR2Ey18:15
replaceafillzOnny, ah yes, LANGUAGES has a lot of weird unicode18:16
zOnnygood to know that replaceafill :D18:17
zOnnyreplaceafill: interesting link :D18:22
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