IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2018-06-27

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jelknerzOnny, did you get the PDF i sent you?10:05
zOnnyjelkner: yes, I did 10:09
jelknerzOnny, can you *please* send me your bus ticket receipts!!!10:17
jelkneri want to get you reimbursed for that.10:17
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jelknerGood morning, replaceafill!11:47
replaceafillgood morning jelkner11:47
jelknerDo you have some time today to help me get ready for Minneapolis?11:47
replaceafilljelkner, sure11:47
replaceafilljelkner, do you have time now?11:47
jelkneryou bet11:47
jelknerthat's all i'll be working on today11:47
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:48
jelknertomorrow i drive to minneapolis11:48
replaceafilljelkner, how can i help?11:48
jelknerfirstly, do we have a working email address for nea members for our revolution?11:48
jelknerif folks want to email us?11:48
jelkneri'm working on the sign-up form11:49
replaceafilljelkner, no, we only have the mailing lista members@11:49
jelknerahh11:49
replaceafilljelkner, let me check the email server for nea4or11:49
replaceafilljelkner, there are a few accounts but are mostly system accounts11:49
replaceafilljelkner, ams@, etc11:49
jelknerwhat would it take to get a contact@nea4or.us ?11:49
jelknerthat could be forwarded to me11:50
replaceafilljelkner, creating the account is not difficult, but i have never set up forward emails11:50
replaceafilljelkner, so i'm not sure about that11:50
jelknerwhat would you recommend?11:51
replaceafilljelkner, i think the nea4or page lists your personal email anyway11:51
replaceafilljelkner, 11:51
replaceafillhttps://nea4or.us/memberships/applications/nea4or-members/11:51
replaceafill"Questions? Send an email to: jeff.elkner@gmail.com"11:51
jelkneryes, but that is not good11:52
jelknerwe can do it if we have to11:52
replaceafilljelkner, right11:52
jelknerbut it makes us look like we don't have skills11:52
replaceafilljelkner, we have the skills to set up contact@nea4or.us11:52
replaceafilljelkner, but not for forwarding11:52
jelknerwell, how would it work?11:53
replaceafilljelkner, i'd recommend setting up contact@11:53
jelkner+111:53
replaceafilljelkner, and pay attention while the convention lasts11:53
jelknerthat's fine11:53
replaceafilljelkner, i don't want to touch the email server before that11:53
jelknerhow would i check it?11:53
replaceafilljelkner, you can set up thunderbird11:53
replaceafilljelkner, or any imap client11:54
jelkneroh no11:54
jelknerlike Dany did :-( ?11:54
jelknershe couldn't get it to work11:54
replaceafilljelkner, yes11:54
replaceafilljelkner, she could11:54
jelkneroh11:54
replaceafilljelkner, in the school computer11:54
jelknerok, let's do that11:54
replaceafilljelkner, it hasn't failed or anything11:54
replaceafilljelkner, but her personal computer is a different story11:54
jelknerif i can get it working on my laptop11:54
jelknerwe'll be ok11:54
jelkneri need to change my workflow anyway11:55
jelknerand start using thunderbird for mail11:55
jelknerso i can get all my emails in one place11:55
replaceafilljelkner, ok11:55
jelknerok, i'll work on an email to rand11:55
replaceafilljelkner, i'll create the contact@ account11:56
jelknerwhile you setup contact@nea4or.us ?11:56
jelknersweet11:56
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replaceafilljelkner, quick question12:05
replaceafilljelkner, what "display name" do you want for the contact@ account?12:06
replaceafilljelkner, like "Douglas Cerna" displaying in my emails12:06
replaceafilljelkner, "NEA4OR something something" :)12:07
replaceafilljelkner, or just plain "NEA Member for Our Revolution"12:07
replaceafillMembers12:07
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mr_germangood day jelkner, replaceafill 12:12
mr_german;)12:12
replaceafillhey mr_german12:12
replaceafillmr_german, you're all set for today, right?12:12
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes. i am12:13
replaceafillmr_german, cool, can we meet a 2 pm our time again?12:13
replaceafillmr_german, to check your progress?12:13
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok12:13
replaceafillmr_german, great, talk to you then12:13
mr_germanreplaceafill, cool!12:14
replaceafilljelkner, contact@ account set12:19
jelknersweet, thanx, replaceafill!12:20
replaceafilljelkner, i'm going to write a document how to set it up in thunderbird12:20
replaceafilljelkner, like the one i wrote for Daniela12:20
jelknerexcellent12:20
jelknerthen i'll test your document and let you know how it goes12:20
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replaceafilljelkner, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i5YXbbJR4g2Hn50_-roNcIXdhTUJ-fo_AuNklNCReJw/edit#12:30
replaceafilljelkner, do you want me to change your personal email in the membership form to contact@?12:32
jelkneri just sent an email to rand with the paper version of the sign-up form12:35
jelkneri need his reply on whether clear will allow us to write checks to nea4or, and then i'll send to amity and yvonne12:36
jelknerbut yes, contact@nea4or.us12:36
jelkneris the email that should be listed12:36
replaceafilljelkner, could you update the "Contact Us" page?12:38
replaceafilljelkner, membership form updated12:39
replaceafilljelkner, nitpick question on the printed membership forms :)12:41
jelknerpick away12:41
replaceafilljelkner, why is "please print" in the form?12:42
jelknerso that people write legibly?12:42
replaceafilljelkner, oh12:42
jelkneri was basically copying the form rand uses for labor for or12:42
replaceafilljelkner, print means the type of letter to use?12:42
jelknersome old people still write in script12:42
replaceafilljelkner, ah got it12:42
jelkneryoung people often don't even know how to do that anymore12:43
replaceafilljelkner, i didn't know that what's called in english12:43
jelknerbut i'm old, so i remember when we did that sort of thing12:43
replaceafilljelkner, we call it "letra de carta" (script) and "letra de molde" (print)12:43
jelknerahh12:43
jelknerwell i could change it to letra de molde, but not everyone would understand ;-)12:44
replaceafill:D12:44
replaceafilljelkner, it's the first time i see that expression, i noticed it in Rand's form too12:44
jelkneryes, that's what i modeled mine on12:44
jelkneri called and left rand a voice message12:45
jelknerasking him to respond to my email12:45
jelkneri have today to work12:45
jelknertomorrow i have a 11 to 12 hour drive to minneapolis12:45
jelknerso i won't get anything else done12:45
jelkneri'll get to listen to a good audio book, but that doesn't count ;-)12:46
replaceafilljelkner, :D12:46
jelkneri need to go to the printers with all this stuff on friday12:46
replaceafilljelkner, long drive!12:46
jelknerit's a big country12:46
replaceafilljelkner, like going from San Salvador to Managua12:46
jelknera lot further12:47
jelknerover 700 miles12:48
jelknersan salvador to managua is a little over 300 miles12:49
jelknerjust looked12:49
replaceafilljelkner, ah12:49
replaceafilljelkner, wow, it's really far12:49
jelknerbut i time, its probably similar12:49
jelknersince i'll be travelling at about 70 miles per hour much of the way12:50
jelkneranyway, back to work!12:50
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:50
replaceafilljelkner, anything else i can do?12:50
jelknernot now12:51
replaceafilljelkner, the meeting is on the weekend, right?12:51
jelkneri'm installing thunderbird12:51
jelknersunday12:51
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, the convention12:51
jelknerconvention starts saturday12:51
jelknerand ends thursday12:51
jelknerdid you see the changes i've been making on the website?12:51
jelknernea4or.us12:51
replaceafilljelkner, the homepage, yes12:51
jelkneryup12:51
replaceafilljelkner, oh, the times are there!12:51
replaceafilljelkner, i just focused on the flier :D12:52
jelkneri read your message about urls for files12:52
replaceafilljelkner, Saturdayday12:52
replaceafilljelkner, typo12:52
jelkneri wish i knew how to keep the same "safe url"12:52
jelknerand update the file12:52
jelkneri need to learn that12:53
jelkneri've been deleting the old one12:53
jelknerand adding a new one12:53
replaceafilljelkner, ah12:53
jelknerwhich increments the safe ur number12:53
replaceafilljelkner, right12:53
jelknersaturdayday is fixed12:54
replaceafilljelkner, +112:54
replaceafillACTION goes back to work too12:55
jelknerping replaceafill 13:13
jelknersorry to bother you again13:13
replaceafilljelkner, pong13:14
jelkner(too many interruptions destroy productivity)13:14
jelkneri have several issues i want to file13:14
jelknernot against our website13:14
jelknerbut for our cooperative13:14
replaceafilljelkner, ah ok13:14
jelknerwhere could i do that?13:14
replaceafilljelkner, we don't have a coop project to do that13:15
replaceafilljelkner, should we create one?13:15
jelkner+113:15
jelknercan you set one up for us?13:15
jelkneri'll file the issues13:15
replaceafilljelkner, yes13:16
jelknersweet13:16
replaceafilljelkner, hold on13:16
replaceafilljelkner, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/coop13:16
jelknerthanks man!13:17
replaceafilljelkner, np13:17
jelknernow one more question before we go13:17
jelknerwhat do you think of this? http://www.webskillet.com/13:17
jelkneri am thinking we need to explore joining a union13:18
jelknerif we are going to do work for unions, we need to be in one13:18
replaceafilljelkner, ah13:18
jelknerso knowing as i do that UE is know for being one of the most progressive, most democratic unions in my country13:18
jelknerthey are not part of the AFL-CIO since they refused to kick out communists in the 1950s13:19
jelkneri thought, let me take a look at the UE website13:19
jelknerthen i found the link i just sent you13:19
jelknerthe sad news is that cooperative didn't survive13:19
replaceafilljelkner, right13:19
replaceafilljelkner, sounds like what we're trying to do13:20
jelknerthe good news is they were both a web coop and a ue local13:20
jelknerexactly13:20
jelknerso we could reach out to them about joining13:20
jelkneri'll file an issue for lelkneralfaro to look into this13:20
jelknerbut i wanted to run it by you first13:20
replaceafilljelkner, i can't say i fully understand what becoming a local means13:21
replaceafilljelkner, but if it helps us grow13:21
replaceafilljelkner, or get in touch with the right kind of organizations13:21
replaceafilljelkner, i'm +`13:21
replaceafill+113:21
jelknerwell, it will also give us the opportunity to be part of the labor movement13:22
jelknerwe will be members of labor for our revolution, for example, if we did that13:22
jelknersince UE is one of the founding members of Labor for OR13:22
replaceafilljelkner, ah13:22
jelknerokie dokie13:22
jelkneri'll file the issue, and we can talk about it later.13:23
jelkneri'm going to call louie too13:23
replaceafilljelkner, cool13:23
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replaceafillmr_german, you around?13:50
jelknerreplaceafill, could you please send me an email at contact@nea4or.us ?14:05
jelkneri setup thunderbird14:05
mr_germanreplaceafill, tell me14:05
jelknereasy peasy!14:05
replaceafilljelkner, cool14:05
jelknerbut now i want to confirm it works14:05
replaceafilljelkner, sent14:06
jelknerTesting 1, 2, 3... ;-)14:06
replaceafillmr_german, could we meet at 2:30 pm our time? i may need to go get Camila14:07
jelknercool14:07
replaceafilljelkner, +114:07
jelknerok, i'll let you talk to mr_german undisturbed14:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, sure, I need to talk about this14:07
jelknerhola mr_german 14:07
replaceafillmr_german, now?14:07
mr_germanHola! jelkner 14:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, later14:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, in the meeting14:07
replaceafillmr_german, ah ok14:08
replaceafillmr_german, cool, 2:30 then14:08
mr_germanjelkner, how are you?14:08
mr_germanreplaceafill, cool14:08
jelkneri'm doing great, mr_german, thanks for asking, and you?14:08
mr_germanjelkner, i'm good too, working with helios ;-)14:10
jelknerexcellent!14:11
jelknerwe need to start using that on our own site14:11
jelknerto vote on things, like whether we should join a union ;-)14:11
jelknerhelios is the key to our success, methinks14:12
jelknerintegrating it with tendenci will be our first real contribution14:12
jelknerso let me leave you to it!14:12
jelknerreplaceafill, i'm breaking for lunch14:36
replaceafilljelkner, cool14:36
jelknerjust sent an email to amity and yvonne14:36
replaceafilljelkner, i'll be back around 4:30 pm14:36
jelknercool14:36
jelknerlater gater14:36
replaceafilllater14:36
jelknerACTION signs off for awhile14:36
mr_germanACTION goes to take lunch15:00
replaceafillACTION goes to pick up his daughter15:13
replaceafillACTION is back16:30
replaceafillready mr_german?16:30
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes.16:30
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jelknerACTION signs off to take a nap.17:48
replaceafillACTION signs off for the day18:05

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