IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2018-08-27

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jelknerhello lelkneralfaro and replaceafill 11:00
lelkneralfarojelkner, hi11:00
replaceafillgood morning jelkner and lelkneralfaro11:00
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, good morning11:00
jelknerthis pre-service stuff is a wild ride11:01
jelknerso i only have a few minutes11:01
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jelknerand for part of it, i need to chat off the record11:01
jelknercan we start on google chat?11:01
lelkneralfarofor sure11:01
replaceafilli'm there now11:02
jelknera few other interesting prospects11:07
jelkneri met yesterday with Todd Endo.11:07
jelknerWho had a suggestion for me as to a project that could help serve the South Arlington community.11:08
jelknerHe noticed that in the building where he lives there are more than a dozen unfilled job openings.11:08
jelknerand that no one from our local community works there11:08
jelknerso he said, "Why not create a database of local job openings together with folks in the community looking for jobs?"11:09
jelkneri am going to ask Daniela and Heylin to meet with him.11:09
jelknerto see if that is a possible project for NOVALCIRO.11:10
jelknertogether with the community wealth building and support for cooperative businesses11:10
jelknerit could be a popular focus for them.11:10
jelknerlastely, while Todd and i were sitting having breakfast11:11
jelknerthe assistant director of what we call the "Extended Day Program".11:11
jelknerit is a before and after school care program in APS.11:11
jelknerwhich is where lelkneralfaro's mother began her career with APS.11:12
jelkneranyway, they are a completely separately administered program. 11:12
jelknersince there is no legal mandate to provide the service11:12
jelknerit is run as a kind of in house self-funding small program.11:13
jelkneranyway, the assistant director recognized me and we started talking11:13
jelknerand he told me about the trouble they are having managing there personnel data11:13
jelkneryou may have seen the email i sent him11:14
jelknerthat's all i have11:14
jelknerthere are soooo many opportunities out there11:14
jelknerthat need the kind of platform we have been learning to develop11:14
jelknerok, i don't want to take up any more of your time11:15
replaceafilljelkner, tendenci could be useful for the jobs idea:
jelknerdid folks finish voting on inviting others to our study?11:15
lelkneralfarojelkner, nope I did not, I'm leaning to vote no11:16
replaceafill3 votes so far11:16
lelkneralfarojelkner, but wanted to discuss why before voting11:16
jelknercool, lelkneralfaro, let's do that now11:16
lelkneralfarojelkner, and (this is just a thought and I11:16
lelkneralfarojelkner, am hoping to not send it out into the messy thought pile) but it might be nice if elections were tied to some dates and there was communication surrounding them11:17
jelknerin fact, AEA elections are going to have to work that way11:17
jelknerthere will be a start and end date announced before the election11:18
jelknerand the election will close at the specified time11:18
lelkneralfarojelkner, like invite whom? how is the study going to be structured? what are the goals?11:18
jelknerreplaceafill and i discussed this in El Salvador11:18
jelknerlelkneralfaro, i would look forward to such a discussion11:19
jelknerwe should be using our forum for that11:19
jelknerbut i can tell you know i specifically wanted to invite Tim from ORA11:19
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah I guess i can get that started on the forum11:20
jelknerand the goal would be to develop a common ideological understanding around capitalism and software freedom11:20
lelkneralfarojelkner, i feel a bit bad about not moving that project forward after starting it11:20
jelkneri'm doing the best i can to help, lelkneralfaro 11:20
lelkneralfarojelkner, but all the work involved in breaking down the reading was hefty11:20
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lelkneralfarojelkner, and I still think it is useful, it's just going to be some work to push it forward so that it has any meaningful result11:21
jelkneri understand, lelkneralfaro 11:22
jelknerbut it is important11:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, did you ever get a chance to get through that first chapter?11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, not all of it, but yes i started it11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i stopped when the idea of splitting it came up11:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, oh cool. how did you feel about it?11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, as i told jelkner during the sprint it seems almost impossible to me to break a system inside the system11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hmmm interesting comment :) lots to talk about there11:25
jelknerhold on gentleman, talking with my good friend at ACC11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so when reading the book my pessimism gets me most of the time11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, lol for another time. but i think it would be fun and helpful to get that sort of conversation going in the study group. I'll do some planning to see if I can get that ball rolling well11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i want to be supportive of the reading idea11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I know that I'm going to have to be in charge of driving that one. I'll see how people respond if I am more on top of it11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +111:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, I haven't got anything more to add. let us know if you are through11:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, quick question11:32
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, go for it11:32
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replaceafilllelkneralfaro, did you test in the demo?11:33
mr_germangood morning11:33
replaceafillhola mr_german11:33
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, nope, on our site11:33
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, would demo be different?11:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok11:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no, just curious if it's our side or the base theme11:34
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. have you checked it and see what I'm talking about?11:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think it's this same issue:
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, they look very similar. but our vocabulary isn't clear so it's hard to be sure. we can screenshare at 1 if you'd like11:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think i understand yours11:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you want the calendar widget even if the "all day" checkbox is not marked11:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, which is what i call "start date/time" widget in mine11:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup. okay cool11:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yeah they are the same then. 11:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I can close mine and take this one upstream11:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, or close yours and take the one I created upstream. 11:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes this is an upstream issue in my opinion11:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let's close both once we file it in core, ok?11:39
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, fair enough, sounds good11:40
jelknerlelkneralfaro, replaceafill can you start a google chat again please?11:40
zOnnyjelkner: Do you want me to come to your classroom today?11:46
jelknerzOnny, it turns out i have another meeting from 1 to 3 pm11:52
jelknerso not today11:52
jelknerand not tomorrow11:52
zOnnyjelkner: ok11:52
jelknercan you come in wednesday at 12 noon?11:53
jelknerwednesday, thursday, and friday we have planning time11:53
jelkneri'll be at the AEA office at 10 am on wednesday11:53
jelknerand then at ACC for the rest of those days.11:53
jelknerso, zOnny 12 noon on wednesday?11:54
jelkneroh zOnny...11:54
jelknera simple "Yes" or "No" will do ;-)11:55
jelknerACTION waits for zOnny to type a reply so he can sign off and finish his lunch11:55
jelknermr_german, so great to see you!11:56
mr_germanjelkner, hey11:56
jelkneri've been in meetings, meetings, meetings11:56
jelknerbut the end of this week i'll be here most of the time.11:56
mr_germanI was here yesterday11:56
jelkneryes, but i wasn't11:56
mr_germanI saw you here ;)11:56
jelknerfor a brief few minutes11:57
jelknerthat's true11:57
mr_germanoh, well11:57
jelknerreplaceafill, should we test attendance at tonight's SC meeting?11:57
jelkneri probably have just enough time to set that up11:57
replaceafilljelkner, sure, why not :)11:58
mr_germanreplaceafill, it works?11:58
replaceafillmr_german, sometimes!11:58
replaceafillmr_german, when the event is set up just right11:58
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, did you pull master right?11:59
replaceafillmr_german, oh, you're talking about the label in manage elections11:59
replaceafillmr_german, yes, the label shows now11:59
mr_germanreplaceafill, btw. i was reading "How to use git stash"11:59
mr_germanreplaceafill, 1+12:00
replaceafillmr_german, cool, it's useful12:01
zOnnymr_german: git stash is good12:17
zOnnymr_german: git stash then git stash pop 12:17
zOnny :D12:23
replaceafillzOnny, thanks!12:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: np12:34
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jelknerlelkneralfaro, do you have a minute?12:34
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah12:34
jelknerdid you see mary kate's very nice reply?12:35
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah12:35
jelknercould you please follow up with her?12:35
jelknerif they are looking for design work, it could be a great opportunity for natalia12:36
lelkneralfarojelkner, yes, I'll follow up. I won't be cc'ing everybody btw12:36
jelknerin fact, calling might be a nicer touch12:36
jelknerif we get the big gig we talked about12:36
jelknerwe will need partners12:36
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah I'll contact with her12:36
jelknerone other thing12:37
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah12:37
jelknerwhat is the best way to reach the elizabeth guzman campaign?12:37
lelkneralfarothrough chris fleury. I correspond with him regularly. what would you like?12:37
jelknercan i call him?12:38
jelkneri need to move fast12:38
jelknerthere is discussion going on at the state level about charging tuition for dual-enrolled classes12:38
jelknera step backwards from the governor's platform commitment to free community college education12:38
lelkneralfaroit's just a dance. one step backwards two step forwards12:39
lelkneralfarohave faith!12:39
jelknerapparently, they were going to vote on it in july12:39
jelknerbut push back made them delay it until september12:39
jelkneri want to shine a light on them and smoke them out12:39
jelknera bit of a stink could derail that i think12:40
jelknerand ORA and NOVALACIRO together could easily get that started12:40
lelkneralfaroi sent you the number in google chat12:40
jelknerbut it would be nice to have a state delegate or two on board before we start12:40
jelknerthanks, i'll go call now12:40
lelkneralfaroask him about the $250.00 check12:41
lelkneralfaroif it isn't awkward12:41
lelkneralfarowe're still waiting on it12:41
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mr_germanreplaceafill, almost done with the question part issue20:08
replaceafillmr_german, great20:08
replaceafillmr_german, let me know when i can test it20:08
replaceafillmr_german, are you there?20:31
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