IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2018-09-06

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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey are you around?11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I spoke with Alan yesterday about porting schooltool to django11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, (when i was telling him about the use case he immediately said it sounded like schooltool)11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :)11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and he said that he would be happy to meet with us to talk about it and that this weekend works well for him11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, he is away next week11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, he agreed to meet Saturday with us if we are available11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, can you do Saturday?11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah sure11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. he also asked for us to share our notes with him. so I'll send along what we've got11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool11:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'll send an email to you three to organize the meeting for this Saturday. 11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +111:28
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, quick question: in the sis notes when you say "organizational efficiency" you mean that this software is being designed for the purpose of increasing the efficiency of their information processing? 12:00
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just want to make sure12:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in the notes? or in the doc Isaac wrote?12:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, in the doc isaac wrote12:01
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh yes, well then they are his words not yours12:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's a question for isaac :)12:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right12:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, :D12:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i understand it the same way you do12:02
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yeah I don't imagine it would mean anything else12:02
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mr_germanreplaceafill, i plan to work on some issues that I can get done12:11
mr_germanreplaceafill, some of them require python skills :/12:12
replaceafillmr_german, cool, go ahead12:12
mr_germank12:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, mr_german I'm off to meet with Gallaudet folks be back on later this afternoon. probably around 3:30. 12:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool, see you later12:13
replaceafillmr_german, do you think you could test this? https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/4512:13
replaceafillmr_german, today12:14
replaceafillmr_german, and you mentioned this yesterday https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/6712:14
replaceafillmr_german, and you never answered this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/72#note_9856583212:15
mr_germanreplaceafill, nono it was this one12:15
replaceafillmr_german, so make sure you close your assign issues first, before taking new ones12:17
replaceafillassigned*12:17
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mr_germank12:18
mr_germanreplaceafill, pwd it not the same as novawebdev?12:32
replaceafillmr_german, pwd?12:32
mr_germanpwa*12:36
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replaceafillmr_german, pwa is this https://novawebdevelopment.org/help-files/pwa/13:09
mr_germanreplaceafill, pwa mobile app13:23
mr_german?13:23
replaceafillmr_german, progressive mobile application https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Apps/Progressive13:25
replaceafillmr_german, google is your friend you know...13:25
mr_german:(13:28
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replaceafillmr_german, actually14:00
replaceafillmr_german, you should try setting up a dev server just for this issue: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/7214:00
replaceafillmr_german, that'd help you practice14:00
replaceafillmr_german, and by setting a dev server i mean following the process we reviewed yesterday14:01
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok14:05
replaceafillmr_german, if you need a domain for testing that, let me know14:07
replaceafillmr_german, i can set up a nwd.org one for you14:07
mr_germani have one replaceafill 14:09
mr_germanit mine, it doesn't matter?14:10
replaceafillmr_german, that's fine as long as you can change the dns ip14:10
replaceafillmr_german, once you create the new linode14:10
mr_germanreplaceafill, sure14:10
replaceafillmr_german, let us know when you have it up14:10
mr_germanreplaceafill, k, if i get stuck can you help me right?14:10
mr_germanlike edzon yesterday14:10
replaceafillmr_german, i have to...14:11
replaceafillmr_german, i mean, yes :D14:11
mr_german-.-14:11
mr_germanreplaceafill, https://i.imgur.com/mYPqAkE.png14:25
mr_germanignore the NS and SOA14:25
mr_germanare for default14:25
replaceafillmr_german, the www cname should have only your domain name as a value14:26
replaceafillmr_german, not www.domain14:26
mr_germank14:26
mr_germanreplaceafill, godaddy change it automatically to @14:27
replaceafillmr_german, as the value?14:28
mr_germanhttps://i.imgur.com/0bjiB9y.png14:29
mr_germanyes14:30
mr_germani think it knows that is gfrexbot.com14:30
replaceafillmr_german, ah14:32
replaceafillmr_german, makes sense14:32
mr_germancool14:33
mr_germani'll continue14:33
replaceafillmr_german, btw, now that you'll start messing with linodes, i've changed your account to be limited14:33
mr_german:c14:33
replaceafillmr_german, i want to know if a limited account gets in the way14:33
replaceafillmr_german, or what permissions do we actually need14:33
mr_germanat the moment14:33
mr_germanI dont have any linodes14:33
mr_germanon my account14:33
mr_germanbut i created one14:33
replaceafillmr_german, can you log out and log in a gain14:34
mr_germanreplaceafill, same14:34
replaceafillmr_german, 45.33.73.140 this is yours right14:34
mr_germanyes14:34
mr_germanbut i have14:35
mr_german- none -14:35
mr_germanlinodes14:35
replaceafillmr_german, hold on14:35
replaceafillmr_german, see? we're learning now14:35
replaceafillmr_german, refresh14:35
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes :D14:36
mr_germanthere you go14:36
mr_germanreplaceafill, thx!14:36
replaceafillmr_german, thank you for testing14:36
mr_germanreplaceafill, can i use a different pass and username14:37
mr_germanfor superuser?14:37
replaceafillmr_german, what do you mean?14:37
mr_germansuperuser for tendenci14:38
replaceafillmr_german, ah yes, you can edit those as convenient14:38
mr_germanreplaceafill, 1+14:38
replaceafillmr_german, for production you just need to record them in a shared doc14:38
mr_germanreplaceafill, k14:38
replaceafillmr_german, but if you're testing you can use your dog's name if you want14:38
replaceafillmr_german, :)14:38
mr_germanat the moment everything is going good14:39
replaceafillmr_german, kk14:39
replaceafillmr_german, you know what14:39
mr_german?14:39
replaceafillmr_german, when you get to the theme branch part14:39
replaceafillmr_german, try setting up a new branch like gfbot/XXXX14:40
replaceafillmr_german, and see if that works with the instructions14:40
mr_germanok14:40
replaceafillmr_german, remember i mentioned that yesterday?14:40
mr_germanyes14:40
replaceafillmr_german, now you can test it14:40
replaceafillmr_german, if we pull that off we'd be in great shap14:41
replaceafille14:41
mr_germanit takes time to upgrade right?14:41
replaceafillmr_german, yes14:41
mr_germank14:41
mr_germani'll take lunch then14:41
replaceafillmr_german, kk14:41
mr_germanACTION goes to lunch brb 30m14:41
mr_germanACTION is back15:18
mr_germanreplaceafill, k im back15:18
replaceafillmr_german, kk15:18
mr_germani just had the same error that edzon had yesterday15:18
mr_germanbtw15:18
mr_germanwhen i try to reboot it15:19
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey Douglas, free to chat? I just want to give you an update on how the meeting went and what I've learned.15:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, can you give me 10? i need to make a phone call15:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup no hurry15:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, thanks15:27
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zOnnymr_german: are u around ?15:30
mr_germanzOnny, hey15:31
zOnnymr_german: one question15:31
mr_german?15:31
zOnnymr_german: having frank installed once, I don't really need to have it separatelly for the other projects, right? 15:33
zOnnymr_german: Did you get that ?15:33
zOnnymr_german: I only have to switch branches, correct ?15:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, done15:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, how did the meeting go?15:34
mr_germanzOnny, yes15:34
zOnnymr_german: cool15:34
mr_germanbtw zOnny im creating my testing server on linode ;)15:34
zOnnymr_german: :O15:35
zOnnymr_german: right now ?15:35
mr_germanzOnny, yes15:35
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, it went very well. Senda was nice and I think she will be good to work with on the social side of things. although the technical bit might be messy15:35
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, she walked me through the issues they are having, and I showed them gitlab briefly15:36
zOnnymr_german: can I see it ?15:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, good on the social side :)15:36
mr_germanzOnny, not yet15:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we'll need Kevin's help for the technical bit15:36
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I took notes that I will share with you. and with Kevin's help I hope we will be okay15:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, there are number of bugs with data submission that they need to address15:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, great, anything "urgent"15:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok15:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, did you confirm if they were talking about the django app?15:37
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well the whole thing is "urgent"15:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, heh, ok15:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but we don't need to act like it15:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that's more there problem than theirs. I mean, that we don't have to sweat15:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure15:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, *their problem than ours15:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right15:38
mr_germanohoh :( 15:38
mr_germanzOnny, i have a problem on "Run the django deploy commands"15:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, they are talking about the django app, and the integrated drupal app15:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ok15:39
mr_germanzOnny, https://i.imgur.com/BloME59.png15:39
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'll gather my thoughts and notes on it now and share them with you, and if possible for you, I'd like to start making progress tomorrow15:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure, let's do that15:40
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we need to deal with access though15:41
zOnnymr_german:it is good :D15:41
mr_germanzOnny, uh?15:41
mr_germanD:15:41
zOnnymr_german: do you know Why ?15:41
mr_germanno15:41
zOnnymr_german:  which command did you run ?15:41
replaceafillmr_german, git status on ansible-roles?15:41
mr_germanthe last one15:41
mr_germanno changes15:42
mr_germanand i checkout to tendenci715:42
zOnnymr_german: checking15:43
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey I just received a call. sorry, should take about 10 minutes I'll be right back to you15:43
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes the access issue is key15:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, np15:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'll be here15:44
mr_germanzOnny, no idea what's the problem15:45
zOnnymr_german: Is your vars.yml looking good ?15:45
mr_germanwait15:45
zOnnymr_german: this is good mr_german we just got in trouble :(15:46
mr_germanzOnny, https://i.imgur.com/Y0NK9qi.png15:47
zOnnymr_german: hold on15:47
mr_germank15:47
zOnnymr_german: tendenci_superuser 15:50
mr_germanzOnny, yes?15:51
zOnnymr_german: is that how you set up?15:53
replaceafillmr_german, i think i know what's the problem15:53
replaceafillmr_german, https://github.com/jazzband/django-debug-toolbar/releases15:53
replaceafillmr_german, i think it's a bug in the debug toolbar middleware 15:54
replaceafillmr_german, in django 1.815:54
mr_germanzOnny, yes15:54
replaceafillmr_german, can you try setting a new instance with frank?15:55
replaceafillmr_german, should see the same error15:55
mr_germank 15:55
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, it didn't happen yesterday lol15:55
replaceafillmr_german, see when the toolbar 1.10 was released15:56
replaceafillmr_german, it changed after our meeting15:56
mr_german12 hours15:56
mr_germanago15:56
mr_germanlol15:56
zOnnyreplaceafill: What should we been looking at? in this repo15:56
mr_germanthat's unfortunately15:57
replaceafillmr_german, that's why i'd like you to try a fresh frank15:57
replaceafillzOnny, the 1.10 release15:57
replaceafillzOnny, today15:57
mr_germanreplaceafill, im on it15:57
replaceafillmr_german, ty15:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok15:57
replaceafillunfortunately tendenci's requirement is too loose https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/blob/tendenci7/requirements.txt#L1815:57
mr_germanreplaceafill, https://i.imgur.com/gtAHVeq.png15:58
replaceafilland maybe we just discovered an issue15:58
mr_germanlol15:58
mr_germanjaja15:58
replaceafillmr_german, touchdown!15:58
replaceafillmr_german, that's a bug on tendenci15:58
mr_germanreplaceafill, omg15:58
mr_german:(15:58
replaceafillmr_german, want to file it upstream?15:59
mr_germanreplaceafill, how can i do that16:00
mr_german?16:00
replaceafillmr_german, https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/16:01
replaceafillmr_german, Issues -> New Issue16:01
mr_germanreplaceafill, and then?16:01
replaceafillmr_german, that's it, you just need to explain what happens and why do you think it happens16:02
replaceafillmr_german, if you can provide both tracebacks (vps and local) that'd be great16:02
mr_german:(16:02
mr_germanreplaceafill, well... i don't know how to say what is happening, i think im not ready for this. honestly16:04
replaceafillmr_german, that's fine16:05
replaceafillmr_german, give me a moment and i'll have a new test for you16:05
zOnnymr_german: Do not say that dude!16:05
zOnnymr_german: are you using the NovaWebDev Linode ?16:07
mr_germanzOnny, yes!16:07
zOnnymr_german:  Is it temporally ?16:09
mr_germanzOnny, yes16:10
zOnnymr_german: cool16:10
replaceafillmr_german, pull frank and try again16:11
replaceafillzOnny, i asked mr_german to test the procedure you went through16:12
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool16:12
zOnnyreplaceafill: should I pull as well ?16:13
replaceafillzOnny, let's wait for mr_german confirmation16:13
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok16:13
mr_germanreplaceafill, it wokrs16:20
mr_germanworks*16:20
replaceafillmr_german, cool16:20
mr_germanreplaceafill, we have to change something in ansible16:20
mr_german?16:20
replaceafillmr_german, i'll make a PR in tendenci first16:21
mr_germanreplaceafill, k16:21
mr_germanso im going to delete16:21
mr_germanmy server16:21
replaceafillmr_german, +116:21
zOnnymr_german: is this what are a referring to ? https://imgur.com/a/9b6TVaU16:23
mr_germanzOnny, yes16:23
mr_germani plan to create a server16:24
mr_germanand then use pwa16:24
mr_germanon my mobile16:24
mr_germanto test16:24
mr_germanhelios there16:24
mr_germanhow it looks on pwa16:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, sorry that took much longer than expected16:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I don't have much more to add actually. but just wanted to agree that the access issue is the main thing we need to solve right now16:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I'll share the notes and we can start moving forward tomorrow16:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, cool16:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and one last fyi. 16:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, we discussed the payments and the staff person in charge of that said they have to discuss the budget with someone and that won't happen until next Wednesday16:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok16:32
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, hope that won't take longer that we expected16:32
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, sorry about all the delays I hope so too. 16:32
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, are you okay waiting? or do you need some funds transfered? 16:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'm ok16:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we can wait16:34
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny: https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/pull/73716:34
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. thanks for the patience16:34
replaceafilltoo bad we didn't detect this 2 hours earlier16:36
replaceafilltendenci.com released a new tendenci 7 today16:36
lelkneralfaroalright I'm signing off for the day16:36
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replaceafillkk lelkneralfaro16:36
replaceafillsee you o/16:36
lelkneralfarosee you all later16:36
mr_germanreplaceafill, so.. i think you or we have to change something 16:37
mr_germanfor ansible16:37
mr_germanright?16:37
mr_germanor i think is on the requirements 16:38
mr_germanfor tendenci16:38
replaceafillmr_german, it should be possible to do the following in the vars.yml file16:39
replaceafilltendenci_repository: git@github.com:novawebdevelopment/tendenci.git16:40
replaceafilltendenci_repository_version: tendenci716:41
mr_germanreplaceafill, should i add those line at the end right?16:41
replaceafillmr_german, yes16:41
replaceafillmr_german, i'm not 100% sure it'll work16:41
replaceafillmr_german, you can give it a try16:42
mr_germanreplaceafill, k16:42
mr_germanlet me do it16:42
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny next time we meet i'll show you how to run the ansible-roles locally16:44
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny with no linode16:44
mr_germanreplaceafill, when?16:44
replaceafillhhmm actually i maybe should add that to the help file16:44
replaceafillmr_german, wait16:44
replaceafilldon't create the linode16:44
replaceafillmr_german, you have virtualbox, right?16:44
replaceafillmr_german, ah never mind, i see you created it16:45
replaceafillmr_german, continue, i'll think of the virtualbox approach a bit more16:46
mr_germanreplaceafill, oh :( 16:46
mr_germani've already created16:46
replaceafillmr_german, np16:47
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny but do please download this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64.iso16:47
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny and this http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso16:47
replaceafillmr_german, zOnny and keep them around16:47
mr_germanthats for16:47
mr_germanvirtualbox16:48
mr_germanright16:48
mr_german?16:48
replaceafillmr_german, yes16:48
zOnnymr_german: can I ask you a question ?17:04
mr_germanzOnny, yes?17:04
mr_germanreplaceafill, nop17:06
mr_germanit doesn't work17:07
zOnnymr_german: any theming style 17:09
mr_germanzOnny, ah?17:10
zOnnymr_german: hold on17:10
replaceafillmr_german, cool, let's wait for a new release then17:12
replaceafillmr_german, you can remove the new linode for now17:12
replaceafillmr_german, until we hear back from them17:12
replaceafillmr_german, did you get the exact same issue?17:12
mr_germanreplaceafill, a new one17:14
mr_germanreplaceafill, https://i.imgur.com/eUgnvZO.png17:15
zOnnymr_german:  I figure out why this is happening https://imgur.com/a/9b6TVaU17:15
replaceafillmr_german, ah, it's the format of the git link17:16
replaceafillmr_german, forget it17:16
replaceafillmr_german, let's wait for a fixed release17:16
mr_germank replaceafill 17:16
mr_germanill delete17:16
mr_germanthe server17:16
replaceafillmr_german, cool17:17
mr_germanzOnny, yeah, but, i need to test everything with the pwa17:17
zOnnymr_german: ah17:18
zOnnymr_german: I am wonderding about this files https://paste.pound-python.org/show/n6GnZmuzkpZ22iSfStT2/17:19
zOnnymr_german: Are these files for the election theming only ?17:21
mr_germanzOnny, yes17:22
mr_germanthats why i removed the css selectors from base.css on the nova-base-theme17:22
zOnnymr_german: I see17:22
zOnnymr_german: where this base.css goes ?17:23
zOnnymr_german: Does this file only affects Helios ?17:23
mr_germanyes17:23
mr_germanonly helios17:23
zOnnymr_german: I see17:23
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mr_germanzOnny, that's clear?17:27
zOnnymr_german: is the one included in this template, right ? zonny@tendenci7:/srv/TELIOS/frank/helios_v1/theme/templates$ vim helios-base.html17:27
zOnny<link rel="stylesheet" href="/static/theme/base.css">17:27
mr_germanyep17:28
zOnnymr_german: getting clear17:28
replaceafillzOnny, glad you're digging into this17:30
zOnnymr_german: any fixes in this page https://imgur.com/a/UxzdeWz17:30
zOnnymr_german: should go to base.css ?17:30
mr_germanzOnny, yes17:30
mr_germanzOnny, but, replaceafill is planning to use manage elections as homepage so..17:30
zOnnymr_german: ah thanks for the update17:31
mr_german1+17:31
replaceafillyeah don't waste time fixing that yet17:32
zOnnymr_german: one question17:32
mr_germanzOnny, tell me17:32
mr_german?17:32
zOnnymr_german: can I ask why manage election ?17:32
mr_germanzOnny, what happens with that?17:33
zOnnymr_german: What will happen with the open elections ?17:33
zOnnymr_german: and past elections ? 17:34
zOnnymr_german: lists17:34
mr_germanzOnny, in manage election the status labels will represent that i think.17:35
mr_germanthose labels are useful17:35
mr_german"completed","setting up", "running"17:35
mr_germanetc17:35
zOnnymr_german: I see17:36
zOnnymr_german: thanks17:38
mr_germanzOnny, you're welcome!17:38
replaceafillzOnny, mr_german let me know when any of you clear your issues queue17:38
replaceafillzOnny, mr_german i have a new issue i want to discuss with any of you that could take it17:39
mr_germanzOnny, well, i have one assigned at the moment17:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, 17:39
replaceafillmr_german, cool, let me know when you finish that17:39
mr_germani can't work on that at the moment.17:39
mr_germanreplaceafill, it about pwa17:39
mr_german:/17:39
replaceafillmr_german, did jelkner assigned you any AEA work?17:40
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes but, i don't any information yet17:40
mr_germanjust one pic17:40
replaceafillmr_german, ok17:40
mr_germanreplaceafill, i think zOnny has more than one issues assigned17:43
replaceafillmr_german, ok17:43
replaceafillmr_german, don't forget this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/helios-server/issues/117:46
mr_germanreplaceafill, oh ok17:46
replaceafillbrb in 1017:47
mr_germanreplaceafill, we can meet on saturday to work with the virtualbox and ansible if you want18:15
replaceafillmr_german, oh you're not around tomorrow, right?18:15
mr_germanreplaceafill, well, if you plan to meet tomorrow i can be here18:17
replaceafillmr_german, i don't think so18:17
replaceafillmr_german, i need to focus on something else at the moment18:17
replaceafillmr_german, we can take the version issue back next week18:17
replaceafillmr_german, i know zOnny is learning django18:18
replaceafillmr_german, you should tool18:18
replaceafilltoo*18:18
replaceafillmr_german, pick the tutorial and go through it when you're free18:18
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok but, i think i need to learn python to understand django as well18:21
replaceafillmr_german, you can just follow the django tutorial in your terminal18:23
replaceafillmr_german, don't keep waiting to learn python to start18:23
replaceafillmr_german, learn python while learning django18:23
mr_germanreplaceafill, :) lets try :D18:27
replaceafillmr_german, i'm doing the same with drupal and php ;)18:28
mr_germanreplaceafill, so.. see you on saturday i think :D18:32
replaceafillmr_german, i don't plan on working on saturday18:32
replaceafillmr_german, see you monday18:32
mr_germanand sunday?18:32
replaceafillmr_german, tampoco18:32
mr_germanreplaceafill, bueno, a ver si aceptan su pull request18:33
mr_germandeberian18:33
replaceafillmr_german, i'll keep you posted18:33
replaceafillmr_german, they have to18:33
mr_german1+18:33
replaceafillmr_german, but they may care less about 7 now18:33
mr_germanwell. let see what happen18:34
mr_germanlater replaceafill o/18:34
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