IRC log of #novawebdev for Monday, 2018-09-10

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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey you around? I have question about uploading members11:12
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes?11:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well two questions actually. 11:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, question 1:11:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, in the upload form there is a column for member id which does not look like it is automatically generated11:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, (at least it wasn't on the tendenci demo)11:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, what's up with that?11:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, actually, I just realized that's probably like my drivers license, AEA members might have numbers associated with them11:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's an automatic number tendenci assigns11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you're importing *users*11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i *think* you can leave that empty?11:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm not sure if it is automatically assigned. maybe a difference between member number and user number?11:16
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me check the demo template11:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we're talking about this template, right?
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup11:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, column AD is member_number11:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i can't find any reference to the member_number in the importer code11:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think it's a left over11:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, have you tried importing a user leaving that column empty?11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i remember i did, and the user was imported correctly11:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes i left i it empty and had no problems. i was just curious and figured id might be a useful tool11:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but it wouldn't make sense for it to not be automatically generated11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it is, but it's a separate part of the process11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, if it was a tendenci id that is11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, remember my explanantion of the difference between users and members11:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in that demo view you're importing *users*11:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the member_number is handled by *memberships*11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I'm a little confused on this point11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I wasn't able to navigate to members on the tendenci demo, like I can on our site11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, presumably because of work you have done11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the demo doesn't have members by default11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ah okay11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you'd need to sign up or sign someone up11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and on our site when we bulk upload members, they are *members*?11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we don't have memberships in our site11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, except for the testing ones you created11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, our site only have users11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and a "members" group11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, which is not the *tendenci* term, just a label11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh true. we we would need a membership form and all that stuff to have members. 11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, membership type, membership application, etc11:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, is there way to bulk upload members? I ask because i want to work with Keri on this today11:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, if possible.11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i don't think there's a UI option for it, let me double check11:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, unfortunately no, the command is only server side and seems... outdated11:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, oops11:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, at some point it seemed possible11:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but i can't find how to access that from the UI11:35
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes i've definitely looked at this at some point. I say this with little confidence in my memory, but I seem to remember going through this help file11:36
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well... we'll have to deal with that later11:36
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, my other question11:36
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, what is our policy on AEA's site, we don't have access?11:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we have the default admin, you can find the credentials from the Company Info -> Server Inventory spreadsheet11:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, Keri has admin11:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner doesn't11:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh, what's the difference between default admin and admin?11:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so far when they've needed help with something, i've just used our admin11:38
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i mean, by default i refer to the administrative account that is set up when the site is created11:38
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, okay, for some reason I felt that last week you mentioned not having access to something, but I could be mistaken11:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we create all of our sites with a "default" administrative account11:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think jelkner mentioned it11:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, him not having access11:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and that the task should be done by Keri11:39
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, member importer seems to work11:45
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so you did find a way to access it?11:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, a dumb one :D11:47
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, my favorite kind of way!11:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, click any of the Join links under Memberships11:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you'll be taken to a membership form11:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but check the megamenu there11:48
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup there it is11:48
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, there's a Memberships tab11:48
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sorry, dropdown11:48
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yeah I recognize it.11:48
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so you could sell it as... "you can import members from the member sign up form..."11:49
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I've definitely done this before. 11:49
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :D11:49
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and that allows you to creater the user + the membership info11:49
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, be aware that for the AEA case11:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, there's already a very simple membership application (form)11:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that we set up when we created the AEA-PAC functionality11:50
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:51
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, in the case of AEA do they not have the easier access to memberships like we have on our site? I'll attach a screenshot so you know what I'm talking about11:51
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ok11:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can use our site to upload screenshots with private info ;)11:52
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +1 well can I just send it to you over google chat actually?11:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure11:52
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, the my membership thing changes the megamenu to have the memberships dropdown11:54
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what's the "my membership thing"11:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, oh i see11:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, hhmm11:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you see it because you're already a member in a membership application11:56
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me share mine11:56
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahhh i see11:56
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, i see. mine has more info11:57
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, right11:58
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so that won't appear in the default admin on AEA'11:58
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct11:58
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, 's site, but, maybe Keris, ifs she is part of a member group11:58
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'd recommend this lengthy approach instead11:58
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +111:59
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, Community -> Members (Admin) -> Membership Applications -> Membership Applications -> click on the Application form link column12:00
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i know it's dumb... but probably more reliable12:00
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, that's alright. at least we have a solution12:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, a less dumb one: Apps -> 1. Admin -> Admin Backend -> 29. Memberships Application -> Membership Applications -> Application form link12:03
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, since we're making the user navigate the django admin anyway12:04
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's a pick your poison situation :P12:04
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if only we had the capability to insert links...12:05
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well what about: Admin Backend --> "29. Membership Application" (title, not subitem) --> import12:06
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, hey, true, the report options!12:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i forgot the import is there12:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, from here, right?
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup12:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +112:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, :D12:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's the definitive one!12:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, well we can actually send the link to keri right? just ask her to go to ?12:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, then import12:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, although the benefit to having her do it is just so she is more empowered12:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yeah, it's better to explain the admin to her12:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, at least just to get to that specific part12:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +112:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i just tested this part: "If the membership_type is not present in the spreadsheet, the first membership type in the system will be used.12:12
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and it seems to work12:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes ive tested that and mentioned it in my helpfile12:12
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, oh, we even have a help file?12:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup, but it's not good because I said to navigate there from the username dropdown menu12:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I didn't realize that "My Membesrhip" was only appearing to me because I was a member12:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah!
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, good to know12:14
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, looks like an easy update12:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes the import steps are hopefully okay12:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just need the first navigation steps to be change12:15
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I actually should have been referring to this
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and that helpfile should be revised as well12:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah12:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, to get to the settings i'd point to the tendenci dashboard -> Settings12:19
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, actually, now that we are at it, this is a good chance to improve these helpfiles, considering our policy was to do so on an as needed basis12:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +112:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i was about to say, just update the help file and send it to keri12:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, to get real world feedback on it12:19
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +112:19
replaceafillgood morning mr_german12:24
mr_germanhello replaceafill 12:24
replaceafillmr_german, do you have time today to work on the issue i told you last week?12:24
mr_germanreplaceafill, which one?12:26
mr_germancan you assign it to me12:26
replaceafillmr_german, just did12:27
replaceafillmr_german, the ora branch has css with a specific height12:28
replaceafillmr_german, that doesn't break the navbar12:28
replaceafillmr_german, nwd, master, aea and the others don't12:28
replaceafillmr_german, so the empty iframe looks bad breaking the navbars12:29
mr_germanreplaceafill, 1+12:29
replaceafillmr_german, if you can find a better solution12:29
replaceafillmr_german, other than just setting a hardcoded height12:29
replaceafillmr_german, that'll be better12:29
replaceafillmr_german, and also add an attendance event12:30
replaceafillmr_german, to verify that the button looks good on the pwa12:30
mr_germanreplaceafill, again, how can i test pwa12:30
replaceafillmr_german, i sent you the help file, right?12:31
replaceafillmr_german, did you follow that?12:31
mr_germanreplaceafill, when did you send it?12:31
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, i need a server for that12:32
replaceafillmr_german, you can create one now12:34
replaceafillmr_german, the fix for the toolbar landed in tendenci7 last week12:34
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, i think i need to install attendance12:35
mr_germanif i create the server12:35
replaceafillmr_german, attendance will be included12:35
replaceafillmr_german, if you use ansible-roles12:35
mr_germanreplaceafill, ah ok12:35
replaceafillmr_german, it's just disabled by default12:35
mr_germanreplaceafill, k12:36
replaceafillmr_german, but you can go to /settings and enable it12:36
replaceafillmr_german, please report by the end of the day what you've done, ok?12:36
replaceafillmr_german, we need to move this forward asap12:36
mr_germanreplaceafill, k12:36
replaceafillmr_german, this week is "polish attendance" week12:36
mr_germanoh ok12:36
replaceafillmr_german, thanks!12:36
replaceafillmr_german, oh before i forget please also check the last two commits on the helios base theme repo12:38
replaceafillmr_german, they're just small fixes to improve the UI a bit12:38
mr_germanreplaceafill, oh yeah, i looking12:40
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, question... and you may have answered this before13:51
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes?13:51
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, let's say that keri makes a mistake, erases a bunch of users or messes up their profiles for example, can you revert back to the old state?13:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes, but is not quick atm since it's a manual process13:53
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, okay, so all the more reason to try to avoid that13:53
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thanks13:54
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, np13:54
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, another question14:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes?14:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm browsing aea's site as an admin14:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and I see that AEA-PAC page is restricted to AEA-PAC members14:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but although admin is not a member, I still have access to those pages14:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, does admin have access to everything?14:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes14:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. that's it14:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, permissions check are skipped for admin14:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's it *any* permission checks14:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. I think i knew that at one point. maybe I need some sort of document to help me remember these things14:09
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, maybe you remember this:
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that was Kevin asking why something was behaving differently for him14:11
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh yes that was it. I even have some stuff typed in the comment section. I'll have to return to that to see what I was thinking14:12
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, oh yup, in the unposted comment I wanted to ask the same question I just asked now14:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, :D14:13
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, nothing like unposted comments!14:13
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, :)14:13
lelkneralfaroACTION away for about 45 min while I take care of an errand14:24
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch bb in ~4014:56
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