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| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, hey you around? I have question about uploading members | 11:12 |
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| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes? | 11:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, well two questions actually. | 11:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, question 1: | 11:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, in the upload form there is a column for member id which does not look like it is automatically generated | 11:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, (at least it wasn't on the tendenci demo) | 11:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, what's up with that? | 11:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, actually, I just realized that's probably like my drivers license, AEA members might have numbers associated with them | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that's an automatic number tendenci assigns | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, if you're importing *users* | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i *think* you can leave that empty? | 11:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm not sure if it is automatically assigned. maybe a difference between member number and user number? | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, let me check the demo template | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we're talking about this template, right? https://demo.tendenci.com/profiles/import/ | 11:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup | 11:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, column AD is member_number | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i can't find any reference to the member_number in the importer code | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i think it's a left over | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, have you tried importing a user leaving that column empty? | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i remember i did, and the user was imported correctly | 11:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes i left i it empty and had no problems. i was just curious and figured id might be a useful tool | 11:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but it wouldn't make sense for it to not be automatically generated | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah ok | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it is, but it's a separate part of the process | 11:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, if it was a tendenci id that is | 11:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, remember my explanantion of the difference between users and members | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, in that demo view you're importing *users* | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, the member_number is handled by *memberships* | 11:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes I'm a little confused on this point | 11:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I wasn't able to navigate to members on the tendenci demo, like I can on our site | 11:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, presumably because of work you have done | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, the demo doesn't have members by default | 11:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ah okay | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you'd need to sign up or sign someone up | 11:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and on our site when we bulk upload members, they are *members*? | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, no | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we don't have memberships in our site | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, except for the testing ones you created | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, our site only have users | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and a "members" group | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, which is not the *tendenci* term, just a label | 11:27 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahh true. we we would need a membership form and all that stuff to have members. | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, correct | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, membership type, membership application, etc | 11:28 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, is there way to bulk upload members? I ask because i want to work with Keri on this today | 11:28 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, if possible. | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i don't think there's a UI option for it, let me double check | 11:29 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, unfortunately no, the command is only server side and seems... outdated | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://demo.tendenci.com/profiles/import/ | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, oops | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://www.tendenci.com/help-files/how-do-i-import-members-my-tendenci-website/ | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, at some point it seemed possible | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://demo.tendenci.com/memberships/import_default/ | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but i can't find how to access that from the UI | 11:35 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes i've definitely looked at this at some point. I say this with little confidence in my memory, but I seem to remember going through this help file | 11:36 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, well... we'll have to deal with that later | 11:36 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, my other question | 11:36 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, what is our policy on AEA's site, we don't have access? | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we have the default admin, you can find the credentials from the Company Info -> Server Inventory spreadsheet | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, Keri has admin | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, jelkner doesn't | 11:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahh, what's the difference between default admin and admin? | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, so far when they've needed help with something, i've just used our admin | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i mean, by default i refer to the administrative account that is set up when the site is created | 11:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay, for some reason I felt that last week you mentioned not having access to something, but I could be mistaken | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, we create all of our sites with a "default" administrative account | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i think jelkner mentioned it | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, him not having access | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and that the task should be done by Keri | 11:39 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, member importer seems to work | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://demo.tendenci.com/profiles/search/?member_only=on | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://demo.tendenci.com/admin/memberships/membershipdefault/ | 11:45 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so you did find a way to access it? | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, a dumb one :D | 11:47 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, my favorite kind of way! | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, https://demo.tendenci.com/profiles/admin/ | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, click any of the Join links under Memberships | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you'll be taken to a membership form | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but check the megamenu there | 11:48 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup there it is | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, there's a Memberships tab | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, sorry, dropdown | 11:48 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yeah I recognize it. | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, so you could sell it as... "you can import members from the member sign up form..." | 11:49 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I've definitely done this before. | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :D | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and that allows you to creater the user + the membership info | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, be aware that for the AEA case | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, there's already a very simple membership application (form) | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that we set up when we created the AEA-PAC functionality | 11:50 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 11:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, in the case of AEA do they not have the easier access to memberships like we have on our site? I'll attach a screenshot so you know what I'm talking about | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ok | 11:52 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you can use our site to upload screenshots with private info ;) | 11:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 well can I just send it to you over google chat actually? | 11:52 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, sure | 11:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, the my membership thing changes the megamenu to have the memberships dropdown | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, what's the "my membership thing" | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, oh i see | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, hhmm | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, you see it because you're already a member in a membership application | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, let me share mine | 11:56 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahhh i see | 11:56 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, i see. mine has more info | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, right | 11:58 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, so that won't appear in the default admin on AEA' | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, correct | 11:58 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, 's site, but, maybe Keris, ifs she is part of a member group | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i'd recommend this lengthy approach instead | 11:58 |
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| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, Community -> Members (Admin) -> Membership Applications -> Membership Applications -> click on the Application form link column | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i know it's dumb... but probably more reliable | 12:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, that's alright. at least we have a solution | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, a less dumb one: Apps -> 1. Admin -> Admin Backend -> 29. Memberships Application -> Membership Applications -> Application form link | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, since we're making the user navigate the django admin anyway | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, it's a pick your poison situation :P | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, if only we had the capability to insert links... | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | :D | 12:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, well what about: Admin Backend --> "29. Membership Application" (title, not subitem) --> import | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, hey, true, the report options! | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i forgot the import is there | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, from here, right? https://demo.tendenci.com/admin/memberships/ | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, +1 | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, :D | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that's the definitive one! | 12:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, well we can actually send the link to keri right? just ask her to go to aeava.org/admin/memberships ? | 12:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, then import | 12:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, although the benefit to having her do it is just so she is more empowered | 12:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yeah, it's better to explain the admin to her | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, at least just to get to that specific part | 12:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i just tested this part: "If the membership_type is not present in the spreadsheet, the first membership type in the system will be used. | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | " | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and it seems to work | 12:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes ive tested that and mentioned it in my helpfile | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, oh, we even have a help file? | 12:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yup, but it's not good because I said to navigate there from the username dropdown menu | 12:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I didn't realize that "My Membesrhip" was only appearing to me because I was a member | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah! https://novawebdevelopment.org/help-files/import-members/ | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, good to know | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, looks like an easy update | 12:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes the import steps are hopefully okay | 12:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, just need the first navigation steps to be change | 12:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I actually should have been referring to this https://novawebdevelopment.org/help-files/how-to-customize-the-membership-module-settings/ | 12:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and that helpfile should be revised as well | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, to get to the settings i'd point to the tendenci dashboard -> Settings | 12:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, actually, now that we are at it, this is a good chance to improve these helpfiles, considering our policy was to do so on an as needed basis | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, +1 | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i was about to say, just update the help file and send it to keri | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, to get real world feedback on it | 12:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | good morning mr_german | 12:24 |
| mr_german | hello replaceafill | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, do you have time today to work on the issue i told you last week? | 12:24 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, which one? | 12:26 |
| mr_german | can you assign it to me | 12:26 |
| mr_german | ? | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, just did | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/74 | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, the ora branch has css with a specific height | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that doesn't break the navbar | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, nwd, master, aea and the others don't | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so the empty iframe looks bad breaking the navbars | 12:29 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, 1+ | 12:29 |
| mr_german | cool | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, if you can find a better solution | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, other than just setting a hardcoded height | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that'll be better | 12:29 |
| mr_german | ok | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and also add an attendance event | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, to verify that the button looks good on the pwa | 12:30 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, again, how can i test pwa | 12:30 |
| mr_german | lol | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i sent you the help file, right? | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, did you follow that? | 12:31 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, when did you send it? | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | http://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/2018-09-06.log.html#t13:09:28 | 12:32 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, but, i need a server for that | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you can create one now | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, the fix for the toolbar landed in tendenci7 last week | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci/pull/737 | 12:34 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, but, i think i need to install attendance | 12:35 |
| mr_german | there | 12:35 |
| mr_german | ? | 12:35 |
| mr_german | if i create the server | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, attendance will be included | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, if you use ansible-roles | 12:35 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ah ok | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's just disabled by default | 12:35 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, k | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but you can go to /settings and enable it | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, please report by the end of the day what you've done, ok? | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, we need to move this forward asap | 12:36 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, k | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, this week is "polish attendance" week | 12:36 |
| mr_german | oh ok | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, thanks! | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, oh before i forget please also check the last two commits on the helios base theme repo | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, they're just small fixes to improve the UI a bit | 12:38 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, oh yeah, i looking | 12:40 |
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| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, question... and you may have answered this before | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes? | 13:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, let's say that keri makes a mistake, erases a bunch of users or messes up their profiles for example, can you revert back to the old state? | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes, but is not quick atm since it's a manual process | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay, so all the more reason to try to avoid that | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thanks | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, np | 13:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, another question | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes? | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm browsing aea's site as an admin | 14:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and I see that AEA-PAC page is restricted to AEA-PAC members | 14:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but although admin is not a member, I still have access to those pages | 14:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, does admin have access to everything? | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 14:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool. that's it | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, permissions check are skipped for admin | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that's it *any* permission checks | 14:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool. I think i knew that at one point. maybe I need some sort of document to help me remember these things | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, maybe you remember this: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/27#note_90625299 | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, that was Kevin asking why something was behaving differently for him | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, ahh yes that was it. I even have some stuff typed in the comment section. I'll have to return to that to see what I was thinking | 14:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, oh yup, in the unposted comment I wanted to ask the same question I just asked now | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :D | 14:13 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, nothing like unposted comments! | 14:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, :) | 14:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | I' | 14:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | ACTION away for about 45 min while I take care of an errand | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch bb in ~40 | 14:56 |
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