IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2018-09-20

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jelknergood morning, lelkneralfaro 10:26
lelkneralfarojelkner, good morning10:26
jelknerjust got off the phone with keri10:26
jelknerthe aea website is missing the top banner10:27
jelknerit is probably something she did with the cms10:27
lelkneralfaroyeah I see it10:27
jelknereasy fix?10:27
lelkneralfaropossibly. 10:27
jelkneri don't know how to do that10:28
lelkneralfaroill take a look10:28
lelkneralfaroif it's the easy way I can do it, if not we'll have to wait for replaceafill10:28
jelknershe said she had one problem adding people10:28
jelknerin other news, FILOP wrote us a check10:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, how long do you have right now?10:28
jelknernot much time10:28
jelkner5 minutes10:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, cool. we can do it later then. when would you have 20 minutes?10:29
lelkneralfaroat least10:29
jelkneri also deposited a check from gallaudet10:29
jelknerafter school10:29
jelknerfor the 20 minutes10:29
lelkneralfarowhat time?10:29
jelkner3:30 pm10:29
lelkneralfarohow about at 5:00 PM?10:30
jelkneri'm here until our geek meetup at 7 pm10:30
jelknerand then i have that10:30
lelkneralfarocool. I'll talk to you at 5. I'm going to cut out for a few hours in the middle of the day to help two of my housemates move10:30
lelkneralfaroso I'll be distracted for about 2 hours10:30
lelkneralfarothat will be from 2-410:31
lelkneralfarothen I'll be back on 10:31
jelknercool 5 pm10:32
jelknertalk then...10:32
lelkneralfaroalright talk to you then10:32
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, good morning, sorry to have a request as soon as you join, but AEA has encountered some trouble they need your help with11:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, their top menu bar has disappeared. 11:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, good morning, looking at it11:07
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i just read the logs11:07
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. once you fix it I have a few questions about the problem for you. 11:08
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, can you check the aea site now?11:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, looking now11:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, it's back11:14
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thank you11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, np, the issue is related to a change we did for the attendance button11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, for some reason that fix works in all the other instances but breaks AEA11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i just removed the change for now11:15
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, will ask mr_german to investigate11:16
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, since he's the one who worked on it11:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, weird. yes I saw when I logged in that the attendance was all disabled11:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, the registration for the events that is11:16
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I have a question11:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes?11:17
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I was looking through the activity logs and wondering what gets logged.11:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, does all activity get logged?11:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the logging it's really scattered11:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no11:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, just some parts like forms log some activity11:19
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh okay.11:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and are we talking only about the "Event Log"11:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, or is there are way for you to see all activity11:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, through some server investigation?11:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the web server has its own logs separated from tendenci11:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sometimes you can infer events from them11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, like when the damn attendance button doesn't work11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, tendenci doesn't log anything11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, because it "thinks" it's just a page not found error, which are not a problem11:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but if i check the server logs, i can see the page not found error comes after the user hits the /attendance/record/ url11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, meaning they clicked the button11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so it's like a complement11:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the events module has its own logger11:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, some user activity is also logged in tendenci11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, can you see who, like from what IP address, the activity originates from?11:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes11:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, interesting...11:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, each line in the web server has the IP making the request11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, forging IP addresses is easy though11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, is that done through a VPN? 11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, not necessarily11:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I've briefly looked into that11:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, are you trying to cover your tracks!?!?! :D11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, lol my questions sound suspicious I know :)11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, have you seen some airports give you one free hour of wifi?11:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I have seen that11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, their systems usually log your mac address11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, from your laptop or device11:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and then count the time for the session based on it11:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, not trying to cover my tracks, just curious about all of my info that gets recorded by different sites11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can even fake your mac address which is unique for each device11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, with just a command in linux11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so the system looks for you doesn't find you and give you a new hour11:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so it's even possible to fake hardware addresses11:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, also interesting lol11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's the reason big providers got good "fingerprinting" you11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they don't only see your IP11:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they also see details your browser sends11:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they send you cookies to "trick" your browser11:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so they identify it11:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, they assign unique IDs based on that information11:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so they can track all your browsing history in the site11:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's spooky :)11:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, tendenci tries to do *some* of that11:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes, I think it would be wise to be more conscious of surveillance11:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but it's not very strict in the way it applies the logging11:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if the developer forgets to add logging to the part they're adding, tendenci doesn't complain or do anything about it11:31
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you go to users and select someone, you'll see their event logs11:31
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, good to know11:33
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's just a shortcut of course, since it's hard to know what user id a person has11:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you can do the same from the event logs link11:34
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in the dashboard11:34
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I was seeing that this morning11:34
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mr_germanreplaceafill, hello!12:05
replaceafillgood morning mr_german12:05
replaceafillmr_german, saw my email?12:05
mr_germanreplaceafill, yes!12:06
replaceafillmr_german, cool12:06
mr_germanreplaceafill, but, I don't to much progress yet, need little bit more of time.12:06
mr_germandon't have*12:06
replaceafillmr_german, ok12:06
replaceafillmr_german, let's meet at the end of the day12:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, k12:07
replaceafillmr_german, 3 pm our time12:07
replaceafillmr_german, kk, see you then12:07
mr_germanreplaceafill, k12:07
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replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4014:42
jelknerreplaceafill, you're gray, r u here now?15:22
replaceafillACTION is back15:24
replaceafillhello jelkner15:25
jelknertime for a meeting?15:25
replaceafilljelkner, sure15:25
replaceafilljelkner, cool15:26
replaceafilljelkner, let me get my headset15:26
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replaceafillthanks jelkner, good meeting with Isaac16:17
replaceafilljelkner, got my questions answered and understand better his usecase16:18
zOnnyhey replaceafill 16:33
replaceafillhello zOnny16:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: busy ?16:35
replaceafillzOnny, what do you need?16:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: Should I work directly in linode server ?16:36
replaceafillzOnny, hang out?16:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: sure16:37
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lelkneralfarojelkner, I'm ready to meet when you are...16:53
jelknerready, lelkneralfaro 16:56
jelknerphone, here?16:56
lelkneralfarojelkner, yeah, phone would be better16:56
lelkneralfarojelkner, call me16:56
zOnnyhey mr_german 16:59
mr_germanhey zOnny 17:00
mr_germanzOnny, what do you need?17:09
zOnnymr_german: create a new linode server 17:09
mr_germanzOnny, yes¿?17:09
zOnnymr_german: Do you have time to give a tour?17:10
mr_germanbut, we have a doc for that ;)17:10
zOnnymr_german: ah17:11
replaceafillzOnny, would you like mr_german to set it up for you?17:11
zOnnyreplaceafill: not yet17:13
replaceafillzOnny, cool let us know if you need help17:13
zOnnyreplaceafill: the tokens step, I need to do again ?17:17
replaceafillzOnny, not if you have the old one you used for abby17:17
replaceafillzOnny, i remember you set it to "never expire"17:17
replaceafillzOnny, so that should still work17:17
zOnnyreplaceafill: right17:17
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zOnnyreplaceafill: where is that ?17:18
replaceafillzOnny, where is what?17:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: the token 17:19
replaceafillzOnny, in your notes...?17:19
replaceafillzOnny, you can just create a new one if you can't find the old one17:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: how it should looks like ?17:20
replaceafillzOnny, like 64 random characters17:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: I got it17:20
replaceafillzOnny, if you still have the repo you cloned when you created abby's server17:20
replaceafillzOnny, check if it has the .env file17:20
replaceafillzOnny, the token should be there17:20
replaceafillzOnny, and you can even use the same repo17:21
replaceafilli *think*17:21
jelknergood news, everyone, lelkneralfaro is going to do the 10 hours per month17:22
jelknerand he came up with a proposal i like17:22
jelknerreplaceafill, r u here?17:22
replaceafilljelkner, yes17:22
jelknerlelkneralfaro is proposing we setup some kind of commission for sales17:23
jelknerso that if he is able to bring in business17:23
jelknerhe gets a commission17:23
jelkneri told him i could commit the the 10 hours, since i was paying for that myself17:24
jelknerbut the commission is a coop decision we would need to make together17:24
replaceafilljelkner, cool, makes sense17:24
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zOnnyreplaceafill: should I create a new venv ?17:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, I have a question about your plan for Gallaudet17:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, Senda is checking in with me and ready to move forward with work17:28
jelknershoot, replaceafill 17:28
jelknerthat's good news17:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, and I received the new contract for us to sign17:28
lelkneralfarojelkner, but first the meeting about money should happen I think17:29
jelknera big +117:29
lelkneralfarojelkner, so what's your plan on that?17:29
jelknerthe new contract has a $5K max17:29
replaceafillzOnny, if you're reusing the old clone it's not necessary17:29
jelknerand not money up front17:29
lelkneralfarojelkner, nope the new contract has 9990 k max17:29
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool17:29
jelknerwhen did you see that?17:30
jelkneri saw a link in the email you sent me, lelkneralfaro 17:30
jelknerthat disappeared17:30
lelkneralfarojelkner, sorry not $9990K, just $9999.017:30
jelknerit said it was no longer available17:30
jelkner$9 more ;-)17:30
jelkneri get it, they needed to come in "under 10K" ;-)17:31
lelkneralfarojelkner, actually 9991 thousand less haha17:31
jelkneroh  yeah17:31
jelkneri didn't see the new contract17:31
lelkneralfarojelkner, I'll send it over again nw17:31
jelknerACTION awaits its arrival17:32
lelkneralfarojelkner, just sent17:32
zOnnyreplaceafill: in this case I have to run the script only17:33
replaceafillzOnny, yes17:34
jelknerlelkneralfaro, i don't see the rate in this one17:35
jelkneram i missing somthing?17:35
lelkneralfarojelkner, you are... let me find it... one sec17:36
lelkneralfarojelkner, it's in Article IV: Compensation17:36
lelkneralfarojelkner, well that's not the rate. it doesn't say anything about $100/hour17:37
jelknerthat's what i'm saying17:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: is this good
lelkneralfarojelkner, I see what you mean. yes that is missing17:37
replaceafillzOnny, oh god17:38
replaceafillzOnny, don't paste passwords here17:38
replaceafillzOnny, ....17:38
zOnnyreplaceafill: shoot17:38
replaceafillzOnny, facepalm17:38
jelknerwe would need that fixed17:38
replaceafillzOnny, could you please delete that linode17:38
jelknerthey will want it fixed too17:38
replaceafillzOnny, and create a new one17:38
jelknerit must be an oversight17:38
zOnnyreplaceafill: my Bad17:38
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok17:38
replaceafillzOnny, be careful17:38
jelknersince that has to be part of the understanding, lelkneralfaro 17:38
zOnnyreplaceafill: forget that17:39
jelknerif replaceafill is ok, and they put in the $100 per hour17:39
jelkneri would vote to sign it and start working17:39
jelknereven without the money up front17:39
jelkneri bet i can ask ubuntourist to loan us the $3K that just arrived17:39
jelkneruntil we can bill for it from this contract17:39
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro but my understanding is that the 9.99k are not guaranteed17:40
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro is that correct?17:40
jelknerreplaceafill, not so17:40
jelknerwhen it says "not to exceed"17:40
jelknerthat basically means you can't go over17:40
jelknerbut you are expected to go up to17:40
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro but if we only work 50 hours? we only get 5k, right?17:41
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, you are right17:41
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro that's the uncertainty i'm scared of really17:41
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro because we have no idea how long this will take17:41
jelkneri don't quite understand that, replaceafill 17:41
jelknerwe are being paid at $100 per hour17:41
jelknernice rate17:41
replaceafilljelkner, do you know how long our work will take?17:42
jelknerare you afraid we can't finish in 100 hours?17:42
replaceafilljelkner, can you estimate it even?17:42
jelknerreplaceafill, ubuntourist does17:42
replaceafilljelkner, i'm afraid we may not cover 100 hours17:42
replaceafilljelkner, yes, and i haven't read an amount from him yet17:42
jelkneri was hoping you and he had discussed this already17:42
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill all three of us have had this conversation previously17:42
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill may I try to sum up, just to get us on the same page again17:43
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill ?17:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, please17:43
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, jelkner cool... so if I am correct, replaceafill's fear is that we don't ultimately get the 100 hours, and this project is not really of interest to us anyway17:44
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill so without the guaranteed 100 hours the project loses its appeal17:44
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill I don't know if ubuntourist would know how many hours they are going to need17:45
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill although he may have an idea17:45
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill so it would be good to check in with him17:45
jelknerfinished, lelkneralfaro?17:46
lelkneralfarojelkner, finished. I hope that was helpful17:46
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it was, thanks17:47
jelknerreplaceafill, thoughts?17:47
replaceafilljelkner, ask Kevin for his estimate17:47
replaceafilljelkner, i mean, we should ask Kevin for his estimate :)17:47
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro all my understanding from gallaudet at this point has come from email exchanges and code repositories17:49
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro and from the code repositories i mean specifically the ARA one17:50
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro i reviewed what Kevin and Brian had to do for the last few years17:50
jelknerACTION just sent an email to ubuntourist17:50
replaceafilljelkner, perfect thanks17:51
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, are you getting at that it does not look like the workload has been very heavy?17:52
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, from what you have investigated?17:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the coding work17:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, my *hope* is that some of the work will come from database or server side work17:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, maintainance or fixing text to be printed correctly17:52
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, instead of modifying code or templates17:53
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes, I'm getting the impression that the issues they have highlighted so far that the coding work doesn't look like much17:53
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, instead is not the right word, i mean "not only from" modifying code17:53
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +117:54
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so I understand what you are coming from17:54
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner in any case.... i guess we need the money17:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner so if you and Kevin think we should do it, let's do it17:55
jelknerreplaceafill, lelkneralfaro, i'll weigh-in when you are ready17:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner and i'll try to complain less and less :P17:55
lelkneralfaroI'll say one last thing17:55
replaceafillACTION done17:56
jelknerACTION waits for lelkneralfaro's one last thing17:56
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill partly through Kevin's input, and in part asking Senda (although I am uncertain she would have the answer) we should try to nail down what all the job tasks would be and how long it has taken in the past17:56
lelkneralfaroACTION done17:56
jelknerlelkneralfaro, i thought we were doing that17:57
jelknersorry to hear we haven't been17:57
jelkneranyway, here are my thoughts:17:57
jelkner1. We would be foolish to walk away from this money, especially since Gallaudet is responsible for most of NOVA Web Development's income over the last 3 years.17:58
jelkner2. Much of this job may fall on lelkneralfaro, who could be a big help to the cooperative by working the hours he wants, billing us at $30 per hour, and leaving the rest to help fund the other devs.17:59
jelknerby "much of this job" i mean the running around campus getting stuff17:59
jelknerthat ubuntourist told us was part of the process17:59
jelkner3. replaceafill has already spent significant time on this18:00
jelknerand billed nothing18:00
jelknerwe only benefit from that if we move forward18:00
replaceafilljelkner, i can give you a number18:00
replaceafilljelkner, and it's not significant18:00
jelkneri sit corrected18:00
replaceafilljelkner, i've been careful about that18:01
jelknerACTION is finished18:01
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro i guess seeing them at least moving this week18:01
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner with the agreements and all that ****18:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner gives me hope and make this less annoying18:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner and i know i shouldn't be annoyed (yet)18:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner but it makes me think "hey, finally!"18:02
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner "and at least we're still in september"18:02
jelknerreplaceafill, lelkneralfaro, i am not one bit surprised by the timing18:03
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool. if you're in, that's what we need :)18:03
lelkneralfarojelkner, O18:03
jelknerubuntourist plainly told us it would be so18:03
jelknerhe said it is like this every year18:04
lelkneralfarojelkner, I'll respond to the point about us not having a detailed understanding about the time and tasks required for the job18:04
lelkneralfarojelkner, just so you are updated18:04
lelkneralfarojelkner, when I met with Senda she shared some issues with me regarding access to their databases and problems with forms.18:04
jelkneryes, i am aware18:04
jelknerlelkneralfaro, you sent me the correspondence18:05
lelkneralfarojelkner, but they have not organized this project in such a way to say we need x amount of hours on this18:05
lelkneralfarojelkner, y amount of hours on that18:05
lelkneralfarojelkner, that's not how they are approaching this, it's much more disorganized and ad hoc18:05
lelkneralfarojelkner, as you know18:05
jelknerlelkneralfaro, ubuntourist *clearly* told us that "dissorganized and ad hoc" is the modus operandi18:06
lelkneralfarojelkner, so Kevin would be the one to answer questions about how long it has taken in the past. I doubt they could put a number on it18:06
jelknerand that we should expect that18:06
lelkneralfarojelkner, undersood18:06
lelkneralfaroACTION done18:06
jelkneri work in a school system18:06
jelknerso disorganized and ad hoc18:07
jelkneris what i deal with every day18:07
jelknerwe can learn to ride that18:07
replaceafilljelkner, i remember when you said that it might be different this time since it wasn't a Chip vs Kevin situation18:07
jelknerand, replaceafill, you can do it without too much stress18:07
replaceafilljelkner, and we would have like a fresh start18:07
jelknerif you just focus on doing what you know is important and letting the other shit fall where it wants too18:07
jelknerlet's do it18:08
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro i guess the sooner we decide the better, right? since we would get some tasks *now*18:08
jelknerlelkneralfaro, are you good with the $30 per hour billable as hours?18:08
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, indeed. it seems they are ready to move18:08
lelkneralfarojelkner, I am18:09
jelknerthat's good for all of us then18:09
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro +118:09
replaceafillso lelkneralfaro will start working hourly on october?18:09
lelkneralfarojelkner, but... what's the plan for September. or at least up to this point18:09
replaceafillcool, glad to know you'll still be around lelkneralfaro18:10
jelknerthat's what i was saying we need to approve as a coop18:10
lelkneralfarojelkner, $2k for me this month?18:10
jelknerbut we have 3 votes here18:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, me too :D18:10
jelknerthat isn't up for discussion18:10
lelkneralfarojelkner, cool sounds good to me. 18:10
jelknerit is owed to you18:10
jelknerwe currently owe:18:11
jelknerreplaceafill: $3K18:11
jelknerlelkneralfaro and zOnny: $2K18:11
jelknermr_german has been paid18:11
jelkneri want to ask ubuntourist if he will loan us $3K18:11
jelknerthen we can pay everyone what they are owed18:12
jelknerand get working on october18:12
jelknerlelkneralfaro, to survive, we need to work out that commission thing you proposed18:13
jelknerthis gig is easy18:13
jelknercause it pays so well18:13
jelknerbut what do you get for bringing in a basic website?18:13
lelkneralfarojelkner, good question. 18:14
jelknerlike the $500 one zOnny did.18:14
lelkneralfarojelkner, I'll have to think about it. before throwing out numbers 18:14
jelknerwe need to work out these numbers18:14
jelknerwe need to learn to make our finances work18:15
jelknerso we can continue in operation18:15
jelkneranyway, you'll be plenty busy in october with gallaudet18:15
lelkneralfarojelkner, the $500 one came to us, the work of going out to find them will be different. but some online advertising should probably be in our near future18:15
jelknerso we don't have to worry about that until november18:15
jelknerlet me take care of that18:16
lelkneralfarojelkner, I think it needs to be in place by November18:16
jelknersince there is not clear way to bill for the hours18:16
jelkneryou have no direct way of measuring its effectiveness18:16
jelknerwe need to get jelkner to do those things18:16
jelknersince he doesn't charge us ;-)18:16
lelkneralfarojelkner, _118:17
lelkneralfarojelkner, +118:17
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill that everything?18:17
replaceafillnothing else from me lelkneralfaro18:18
lelkneralfarocool. so, in summary, we'll move forward with Gallaudet, I can sign the agreement, we don't need another meeting with them18:18
lelkneralfarosound right?18:18
jelknerand i don't have to go in next wednesday18:19
lelkneralfarojelkner, replaceafill :D cool thanks for your time18:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, jelkner thank *you*18:19
jelknerlelkneralfaro, perhaps you should go in18:19
jelknersince you can bill for the time18:19
jelkneronce we sign the contract18:19
jelknerit can be part of the planning process18:19
jelknersince it is already scheduled18:20
lelkneralfarothat sounds good18:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: Do I need access to this
jelknerlelkneralfaro, please get them to put the rate back in the contract18:20
jelknerand they sign it18:20
jelknerand then sign it18:20
replaceafillzOnny, yes18:21
replaceafillzOnny, did lelkneralfaro give you access to the domain?18:21
jelknerif that is all, lelkneralfaro, replaceafill, i have school stuff to do18:21
jelknerso give me the word and i'm outta here18:21
replaceafilljelkner, i'm done18:21
lelkneralfarosounds good to me18:22
zOnnylelkneralfaro: Did you get that ?18:22
lelkneralfarozOnny, replaceafill i did not give acess18:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, zOnny I can do that now18:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i was thinking18:22
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you should give me access to any domain we buy18:22
jelknerlelkneralfaro, can i go now?18:22
lelkneralfarojelkner, yes, that's okay with me18:22
zOnnylelkneralfaro: thnks18:22
jelknergoodnight all18:22
jelknerACTION signs off18:22
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I know we did that last time. does zOnny get access if I give you access?18:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no18:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, or can you give him access?18:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and i can't give him18:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but i can set it up for him18:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh okay18:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ideally you would give access to the developer in charge18:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and me just in case18:23
lelkneralfarozOnny, do you have an account?18:24
zOnnylelkneralfaro: good question18:24
zOnnylelkneralfaro: yes, I do have an account18:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I don't recall exactly what to do. to share do I use your namecheap account name?18:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sorry i have never done that18:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, but you used mine last time replaceafillnova18:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, did I put in your email last time?18:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, or at least you asked me for it :D18:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it can be any, email or username18:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just initiated the process to grant you access rights18:28
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, maybe you will get an email18:28
zOnnyequinteros :D18:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yes i got it18:29
lelkneralfarozOnny, cool I'll initiate the process to grant you rights now18:29
lelkneralfarozOnny, just initiated the process18:30
zOnnylelkneralfaro: ?18:32
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lelkneralfarozOnny, did you get an email?18:32
zOnnylelkneralfaro: nice18:33
lelkneralfarozOnny, great18:33
lelkneralfarozOnny, replaceafill okay folks I'm going to sign off18:36
zOnnylelkneralfaro: NO18:36
replaceafillthanks lelkneralfaro, ttyl18:36
lelkneralfarozOnny, lol. I'll take that as a YES18:36
lelkneralfarosee you tomorrow18:36
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zOnnyreplaceafill: should I use the same vars.yml18:55
replaceafillzOnny, you need to adjust them to the new domain and set a new pasword18:56
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok18:56
zOnnyDoes it matter the order ?18:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: 18:57
replaceafillzOnny, no18:57
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