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| jelkner | !remind | 10:08 |
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| Big_Brother | Chair 2019.04.07: hrodriguez (ubuntourist) | 10:08 |
| jelkner | !remind Getting ready for Gallaudet contract | 10:08 |
| Big_Brother | "Getting ready for Gallaudet contract" added to message queue | 10:08 |
| jelkner | !remind Schedule / Attendance for meetings through Pycon | 10:09 |
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| jelkner | Good morning Doisaac! | 10:26 |
| Doisaac | Good Morning Jeff | 10:27 |
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| jelkner | I don't know if you've been formally introduced to hrodriguez | 10:27 |
| jelkner | but she is here with us | 10:27 |
| jelkner | i was talking with her this morning | 10:27 |
| jelkner | since she and you are both interested learning to be web developers | 10:28 |
| Doisaac | Oh,Good Morning, Nice to meet you. | 10:28 |
| jelkner | i told her she should join us | 10:28 |
| jelkner | y ella habla espanol mucho mas que yo ;-) | 10:28 |
| hrodriguez | Doisaac, Hello! nice to meet you | 10:28 |
| Doisaac | Nice To meet you too. | 10:29 |
| jelkner | bueno, donde estamos? | 10:29 |
| Doisaac | GDWH | 10:29 |
| jelkner | si, claro | 10:29 |
| Doisaac | solo me faltan los ejercicios de "image" | 10:30 |
| jelkner | excellente! | 10:30 |
| Doisaac | now , that i did it slowly was more awesome, | 10:31 |
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| Doisaac | and HTML is so great | 10:31 |
| jelkner | +1 | 10:31 |
| jelkner | wait until you combine it with CSS! | 10:31 |
| jelkner | pero Doisaac, estoy en tu cuenta en students.gctaa.net | 10:32 |
| jelkner | y hay solo index.html y min.html | 10:32 |
| Doisaac | es una carpeta | 10:32 |
| Doisaac | named " GDWH" | 10:32 |
| Doisaac | there is the exercises i done. | 10:32 |
| jelkner | pero no es en el student server | 10:33 |
| Doisaac | entro? | 10:33 |
| Doisaac | ya entre. | 10:34 |
| jelkner | pero no hay GDWH | 10:35 |
| Doisaac | it's in my desk | 10:35 |
| jelkner | ahhh | 10:35 |
| jelkner | so that's what we need to change | 10:35 |
| jelkner | i can't see it on your desk | 10:35 |
| jelkner | that's why you need to put it on the student server | 10:36 |
| jelkner | that's what it is for | 10:36 |
| jelkner | so for today, we need to talk about that | 10:36 |
| Doisaac | oh | 10:36 |
| jelkner | what os are you running? | 10:36 |
| Doisaac | cp ? | 10:36 |
| jelkner | scp | 10:36 |
| jelkner | What OS are you running? | 10:36 |
| Doisaac | scp and the name of the carpet? | 10:36 |
| jelkner | first, please answer my question | 10:37 |
| jelkner | what operating system (OS) do you have on your desktop? | 10:37 |
| Doisaac | i dont know | 10:37 |
| jelkner | windows? | 10:37 |
| jelkner | linux? | 10:37 |
| Doisaac | no | 10:37 |
| Doisaac | yes linux | 10:37 |
| jelkner | great | 10:37 |
| jelkner | do you have the machine i sent last summmer? | 10:38 |
| Doisaac | yes, Douglas Gave to me | 10:38 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:38 |
| Doisaac | thank 's | 10:38 |
| jelkner | np | 10:38 |
| jelkner | i'm bringing another one in july | 10:39 |
| Doisaac | oh, thank you a lot. | 10:39 |
| jelkner | for now, let's try this | 10:39 |
| Doisaac | ok | 10:39 |
| jelkner | instead of using scp today | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i want to give you practice working on the remote machine by logging into it | 10:39 |
| jelkner | so i'm going to ask you to do the exercises again | 10:40 |
| jelkner | as least for the first few lessons | 10:40 |
| jelkner | it will be good practice | 10:40 |
| Doisaac | of HTML? | 10:40 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez should be able to help with questions too | 10:40 |
| jelkner | yes | 10:40 |
| Doisaac | I Have done it | 10:40 |
| Doisaac | menos los de imagen | 10:40 |
| jelkner | i understand | 10:41 |
| jelkner | but you need practice | 10:41 |
| jelkner | and doing a few exercises again is good practice | 10:41 |
| Doisaac | ohh | 10:41 |
| jelkner | so let's start right now with lesson 2 | 10:41 |
| jelkner | you need to create gdw.html | 10:42 |
| jelkner | you can do that by: | 10:42 |
| jelkner | 1. cp min.html gdw.html | 10:42 |
| jelkner | on the server | 10:42 |
| Doisaac | ok | 10:43 |
| jelkner | if you want to use what you learned and use lists instead of just h3 elements | 10:43 |
| jelkner | that would be fine | 10:43 |
| Doisaac | i was puttting the links | 10:43 |
| jelkner | cool | 10:43 |
| Doisaac | with <a> | 10:43 |
| jelkner | excellent | 10:43 |
| jelkner | do that | 10:43 |
| Doisaac | it miss like 3 or 4 | 10:43 |
| jelkner | but *on* the server | 10:43 |
| jelkner | just do that lesson again | 10:43 |
| jelkner | your assignment is: | 10:43 |
| Doisaac | and when i finish it , i going to copy there rigth? | 10:44 |
| jelkner | Create a document named gdw.html as described in lesson 6 | 10:44 |
| jelkner | no | 10:44 |
| jelkner | you are going to *make* it there | 10:44 |
| jelkner | that's the assignment | 10:44 |
| Doisaac | really ? wow | 10:44 |
| jelkner | yes | 10:44 |
| jelkner | ssh into the student server | 10:45 |
| jelkner | i want you to practice with using CLI tools | 10:45 |
| jelkner | so having only a shell account is perfect | 10:45 |
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| jelkner | both nano and vim are on the server | 10:45 |
| jelkner | that's all you need | 10:45 |
| jelkner | so, Doisaac, please repeat your assignment back to me | 10:46 |
| Doisaac | into to the server | 10:46 |
| Doisaac | enter to a text editor with vim or nano | 10:46 |
| Doisaac | and do it there | 10:46 |
| Doisaac | lesson 6 | 10:46 |
| jelkner | yes, exactly | 10:46 |
| Doisaac | gdw.html | 10:46 |
| jelkner | perfect | 10:46 |
| jelkner | you should start with the unix cp command | 10:47 |
| Doisaac | with links already done | 10:47 |
| jelkner | since min.html can be copied | 10:47 |
| jelkner | yup | 10:47 |
| jelkner | that's it | 10:47 |
| jelkner | if you want to work on that now | 10:47 |
| jelkner | we could meet briefly again before i leave here today to talk about what is next | 10:47 |
| jelkner | but i want to see that on the server first | 10:47 |
| jelkner | ok? | 10:48 |
| Doisaac | ok Jeff | 10:48 |
| Doisaac | Question | 10:48 |
| Doisaac | first i have to type it 1. cp min.html gdw.html | 10:48 |
| Doisaac | and then i have to open a text editor? | 10:49 |
| Doisaac | and do it there? | 10:49 |
| jelkner | si senior | 10:50 |
| hrodriguez | remind! | 10:50 |
| hrodriguez | !remind | 10:50 |
| Big_Brother | Chair 2019.04.07: hrodriguez (ubuntourist) | 10:50 |
| jelkner | si tiena preguntas, Doisaac, pregunta a hrodriguez | 10:52 |
| jelkner | si tiene | 10:52 |
| jelkner | disculpame | 10:52 |
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| Doisaac | ok, Jeff gracias, no hay problema jeje | 10:52 |
| hrodriguez | Si mi email es heylin.rodriguez@novawebdevelopment.org | 10:52 |
| hrodriguez | Y soy de Honduras! | 10:53 |
| Doisaac | ok | 10:53 |
| Doisaac | gracias | 10:53 |
| Doisaac | te escribiré, cualquier cosa ! | 10:54 |
| hrodriguez | perfecto! | 10:54 |
| jelkner | Good morning, GFbot! | 10:56 |
| jelkner | !remind LibreOrganize plans for the week ahead | 10:57 |
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| GFbot | good day jelkner | 10:58 |
| GFbot | o/ | 10:58 |
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| Big_Brother | Chair 2019.04.07: hrodriguez (ubuntourist) | 11:00 |
| hrodriguez | Good Morning! | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning, hrodriguez! | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Hey! | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | good morning everyone | 11:01 |
| hrodriguez | First item, Getting ready for Gallaudet contract | 11:01 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ok, ubuntourist, zOnny and i spoke this morning | 11:01 |
| jelkner | so we were clear on the goals | 11:01 |
| jelkner | get started as early as possible | 11:02 |
| jelkner | so we there is less of a crunch | 11:02 |
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| jelkner | ubuntourist wants dev server setup | 11:02 |
| jelkner | with zOnny asking replaceafill for help getting that going | 11:02 |
| jelkner | i spoke with my brother | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | Good Morning! | 11:02 |
| jelkner | who, like replaceafill, has a full time job | 11:02 |
| jelkner | but he said he is available to help plan and help the team with database design | 11:03 |
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| jelkner | something he has a lot of experience with | 11:03 |
| DG123 | good morning | 11:03 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist says we should setup a redhat server to test this on | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i assume you mean centos? | 11:04 |
| ubuntourist | Anticipating that Gallaudet will cooperate somewhat quickly (famous last words), I've set up a group on Bitbucket called "Reviewers", made zOnny a member, and then added Reviewers to all of the RSIA repositories. Will probably need to repeat for Alan. | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, We shouldn't need it for testing, but Gallaudet will go with pure RHEL. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | they are functionally equivalent | 11:05 |
| jelkner | and we don't want to pay big bucks (which we don't have) | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so Centos will have to do | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | So, we need to get Gallaudet Technology Services to make sure they're paid up, and get their repos in order so that "rpm -Uvh" works right again. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | you said you will work on that | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, right. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can you help zOnny get a centos box setup to use for learning / testing? | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | i don't have much experience with centos | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i understand | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i can help him setup the vm | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i'm talking about the application | 11:07 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, you'll need to let zOnny know which of the many silly little repos are relevant. I'm guessing "*_risa", "*_themes" and "*_drupal" but there may be more. | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | ok | 11:08 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, (There appeared to be several almost empty repos with a single "contributors.txt" file in them, and one that is completely empty. I'm guessing he won't need the vagrant stuff.) | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION done | 11:09 |
| hrodriguez | Second item, Schedule / Attendance for meetings through Pycon | 11:09 |
| jelkner | let's make this one quick | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i mentioned to everyone i won't be here next Sunday | 11:10 |
| jelkner | i can confirm that i will be here the sunday after that, but not from Gallaudet | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so, Doisaac, we won't meet next Sunday | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but we can meet again in two weeks | 11:10 |
| jelkner | if you are available | 11:11 |
| jelkner | we have pycon on may 4 | 11:11 |
| Doisaac | yes sure, | 11:11 |
| jelkner | so a bunch of us won't be able to meet then. | 11:11 |
| Doisaac | sure, | 11:11 |
| jelkner | anyone else with scheduling announcements? | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | I'll be missing on April 28. | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so we can't meet at Gallaudet that day | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i propose arlington central library | 11:12 |
| DG123 | I'll be out of town until the 22nd | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i'll reserve a room if i can | 11:12 |
| jelkner | will you be available remotely? | 11:13 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Sundays the library opens at 1:00 pm | 11:13 |
| GFbot | jelkner: so we dont have meeting next sunday? | 11:14 |
| jelkner | ok, perhaps we need to meet from home 4/28 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | details to follow | 11:14 |
| jelkner | thanks | 11:14 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:14 |
| hrodriguez | Last item in the list, LibreOrganize plans for the week ahead | 11:14 |
| jelkner | this is mainly for GFbot and zOnny | 11:15 |
| jelkner | but just to let everyone know what's happening | 11:15 |
| GFbot | zOnny: go ahead :D | 11:15 |
| jelkner | both AEA and ORA are really stepping up their use of LibreOrganize | 11:15 |
| jelkner | so we have new elections this week on both sites | 11:15 |
| zOnny | yes, I just listed the following tasks that we are working on | 11:16 |
| jelkner | btw. I'm really looking forward to meeting with Vijay later this month | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i've been in regular communication with him | 11:16 |
| jelkner | the democracy at work folks are interested in supporting us | 11:17 |
| GFbot | jelkner: as zOnny says we have been doing ORA requests this last week | 11:17 |
| jelkner | super | 11:17 |
| GFbot | he's working on helios iframe for tendenci and Im working on a new app | 11:17 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:17 |
| GFbot | for a new members reports | 11:17 |
| GFbot | Tendenci already has one, zOnny told me that | 11:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I will slow-down because we have a new project going on | 11:18 |
| GFbot | but he told me that you want a fancy pdf zOnny | 11:18 |
| GFbot | jelkner: * | 11:18 |
| hrodriguez | anything else? | 11:19 |
| GFbot | im done | 11:19 |
| zOnny | I have being in touch with aracely as well, she is really expecting her site with us | 11:19 |
| zOnny | *doing | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | I'll take the helm | 11:20 |
| GFbot | zOnny: you'll be busy this week? | 11:20 |
| GFbot | working on that? | 11:20 |
| hrodriguez | ubuntourist, is chair for next week! | 11:20 |
| zOnny | not that much. we can split the work | 11:20 |
| GFbot | zOnny: cool | 11:21 |
| GFbot | ACTION done | 11:21 |
| hrodriguez | anyone has anything else? | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | i'd like to make a quick announcement before we leave | 11:21 |
| ubuntourist | !remind 2019.04.14 Chair: ubuntourist | 11:21 |
| Big_Brother | "2019.04.14 Chair: ubuntourist" added to message queue | 11:21 |
| hrodriguez | Go ahead replaceafill | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | i've been giving a lot of thought to my involvement in the coop | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | and i've decided that april will probably be the last month i'll be attending the IRC meetings | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | i can help with questions through email during the week ofc | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | but i want to start taking sundays off wok | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | work* | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I thought for a minute you'd taken up Chinese cuisine. ;-) | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | hm? | 11:24 |
| jelkner | understood replaceafill | 11:24 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist humor | 11:24 |
| jelkner | wok | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | my r key doesn't work :D | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | you should see my external keyboard next to me | 11:24 |
| hrodriguez | anything else? | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | ACTION done | 11:24 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, would it make sense not to include you in the llc DG123 is setting up? | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, probably not | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ok, so it is 5 of us | 11:25 |
| jelkner | DG123, did you get that? | 11:25 |
| DG123 | I did | 11:26 |
| DG123 | I'll edit the operating agreement | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | thank you DG123 | 11:26 |
| hrodriguez | Last call, anyone else have something to add | 11:26 |
| hrodriguez | ? | 11:26 |
| hrodriguez | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:27 |
| jelkner | thanks, hrodriguez! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | great job | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | thank you hrodriguez | 11:27 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, GFbot can we talk about Summer logistics? | 11:27 |
| hrodriguez | :) thank you! | 11:28 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, have time for a couple of Gallaudet questions? | 11:28 |
| GFbot | ok | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so, you saw mauricio's email, yes? | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Ja? | 11:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: can I take a bit of your time after the meeting | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i'll take it to private to not interrup | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | t | 11:29 |
| jelkner | GFbot, nrcerna? | 11:29 |
| GFbot | jelkner: yes i did | 11:29 |
| jelkner | mauricio sent his address | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i don't know santa ana | 11:29 |
| nrcerna | He mentioned that he lives in El Trebol | 11:29 |
| jelkner | what are you're thoughts? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | is that near? | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i can stay at his place if it makes sense | 11:29 |
| jelkner | that's what we need to figure out | 11:30 |
| GFbot | jelkner: thats a question for nrcerna | 11:30 |
| jelkner | is that near the 3 of you? | 11:30 |
| GFbot | she lived in El trebol before | 11:30 |
| jelkner | GFbot, Doisaac nrcerna | 11:30 |
| nrcerna | Estamos a 10 0 15 mins en carro | 11:30 |
| jelkner | pero no tenemos carro | 11:30 |
| nrcerna | German? | 11:31 |
| jelkner | quierro buscar una solution de bicicleta o pie | 11:31 |
| jelkner | no voy a comprar un carro | 11:31 |
| jelkner | pero puedo prestar una bicicleta | 11:31 |
| jelkner | lo que necesitamos es: | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 1. un lugar para trabajar | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 2. un lugar donde yo puedo dormir | 11:32 |
| jelkner | numero 1 tiene eso requisitos: | 11:32 |
| jelkner | 1. internet bueno | 11:33 |
| jelkner | 2. espacios para 4 personas a trabajar | 11:33 |
| nrcerna | Entiendo | 11:33 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, puede ustd ser la "punta de contacto" sobre eso? | 11:33 |
| jelkner | el punto de contacto | 11:34 |
| jelkner | discuplame | 11:34 |
| nrcerna | Está bien. | 11:34 |
| nrcerna | np | 11:34 |
| jelkner | muy bien | 11:34 |
| jelkner | tenemos tiempo | 11:34 |
| GFbot | pos | 11:35 |
| nrcerna | En el caso de la casa de mi abuela, no he podido obtener información. | 11:35 |
| jelkner | pero no se si puedes responder al correor electronico de mauricio | 11:35 |
| nrcerna | Le responderé, necesito saber algo de German | 11:36 |
| jelkner | muy bien | 11:36 |
| jelkner | y nrcerna tengo esos preguntas: | 11:36 |
| nrcerna | GFbot que tan probable es que podas ir en el carro de tu mamá? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | 1. cuanto cuesta el "shared space" | 11:36 |
| nrcerna | en caso Jeff se quede en El Trebol | 11:36 |
| jelkner | that you showed me on facebook | 11:36 |
| jelkner | ? | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and what hours is it open? | 11:37 |
| GFbot | depende nrcerna | 11:37 |
| jelkner | can we all get to the shared space (me by bicicleat o de pie) | 11:37 |
| nrcerna | jelkner: tienen diferentes planes creo, puedo preguntar y enviarle la información | 11:37 |
| jelkner | muy bien, nrcerna, gracias! | 11:38 |
| jelkner | podemos hablar otra vez en dos semenas? | 11:39 |
| nrcerna | Preguntaba lo del carro GFbot, por que en el caso de que eso suceda tenemos que ver si podemos movilizarnos los tres juntos (Douglas, vos y yo) | 11:39 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner :) | 11:39 |
| GFbot | debo preguntar nrcerna | 11:40 |
| nrcerna | Ok, avisame , si no tendría que ver si podemos con el mio | 11:40 |
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| GFbot | nrcerna: ok | 11:42 |
| nrcerna | :) | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, jelkner is it ok if i set up the testing server for ARA in a NWD linode with Ubuntu? | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | i mean, in a dirty/quick way | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | i could even set up a NWD subdomain for it | 11:44 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Sorry, I stepped away for a few minutes. | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | np | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | i'm just wondering if you really need the testing server as close as production as possible? | 11:50 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I don't see a good reason NOT to set something up in Ubuntu. | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, cool, thanks | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, btw you're old credentials don't seem to work for me anymore | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, or i'm doing something wrong | 11:51 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, It doesn't even need "real" data -- but since there's all that old data there, might as well use it. | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, this is the way i used to connect to the vpn: | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | sudo openconnect --juniper --user kevin.cole https://remote.gallaudet.edu | 11:53 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Ah. I was about to ask "which credentials?" I'm on campus at the moment, and thus am not going through openconnect / juniper. | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ah | 11:54 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, "remote"? Should that not be "research"? I forget. So long since I used Juniper stuff. | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i just remember it's difficult to set up the helper models (departments, etc) | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ah, i'll try that | 11:55 |
| ubuntourist | Or did we have to first connect to remote in order to connect to research? | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | i hate myself for losing my notes :( | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i think so | 11:55 |
| ubuntourist | I probably have notes on that. I'll search. | 11:55 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is running "grep -ril openconnect /home/*" while the theme music to Final Jeopardy plays... | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | :D | 11:59 |
| ubuntourist | And a surprising number of files apparently have that string in them,,, including Qt shared object libraries... | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | :| | 11:59 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION probably should have searched for juniper instead. | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i think i can confirm i have your old credentials and they have changed | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | i went to the RSIA authentication | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | which i think uses ldap (or whatever the auth backend is) | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | and i think your combination used to work there | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, can you try https://rsia.gallaudet.edu/user/login | 12:02 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, fail. | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 12:04 |
| ubuntourist | So. Since I can still ssh in while physically on campus, you can tell me what to bundle up and how to bundle it. | 12:04 |
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| ubuntourist | Having gotten into hot water once before when I allowed access to equipment, I don't want to try to do any fancy tunneling thing if I can avoid it. | 12:05 |
| Doisaac | hi, | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, that's the hard part i can barely remember what to look for | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, give me a minut | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | e | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | hello Doisaac como vas? | 12:10 |
| Doisaac | i think i already did it | 12:10 |
| Doisaac | may you check it? | 12:10 |
| Doisaac | name = | 12:10 |
| Doisaac | gdw.html.txt | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, duh | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i just found the credentials i have of your user are the *****ARA***** ones | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | the ones used in /internal_use | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | sorry about the noise/confusion | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | Doisaac, necesitas hablarle a jelkner directamente | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | Doisaac, pone el nick de el seguido del mensaje que le queres enviar | 12:13 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, meanwhile both "grep openconnect" and "grep juniper" are still going with billions of files. ;-) | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, :D | 12:13 |
| Doisaac | replaceafill , oh gracias | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | Doisaac, np | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | np = no problem | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | :) | 12:14 |
| jelkner | Doisaac, do you still need help? | 12:15 |
| Doisaac | es después del mensaje? | 12:15 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez just showed me your email | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i can walk you through the process if you have a few minutes now | 12:15 |
| Doisaac | yes, please | 12:15 |
| Doisaac | ya subí "gdw.html.txt " into the server | 12:16 |
| jelkner | yes, let's not do that today | 12:16 |
| jelkner | i am going to delete them | 12:16 |
| jelkner | and make you do this the hard way ;-) | 12:16 |
| jelkner | ready? | 12:16 |
| Doisaac | yes | 12:17 |
| jelkner | btw the links you have in the current version won't work | 12:17 |
| jelkner | one step at a time | 12:17 |
| jelkner | so, i see two files now that i'm going to remove | 12:17 |
| jelkner | gdw.html, which is empty | 12:18 |
| Doisaac | yes | 12:18 |
| jelkner | and gdw.html.txt | 12:18 |
| jelkner | which has the links that won't work | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so step-by-step | 12:18 |
| Doisaac | oh but in my pc yes :( | 12:18 |
| Doisaac | ok | 12:18 |
| jelkner | yes, but that is an issue of relative vs. absolute links | 12:18 |
| jelkner | you have absolute links | 12:19 |
| jelkner | which are *not* portable | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we want relative links | 12:19 |
| Doisaac | oh it mean i only can see it | 12:19 |
| Doisaac | ohhh relative ... | 12:19 |
| jelkner | relativo | 12:19 |
| Doisaac | yes | 12:20 |
| jelkner | meaning that you make a link that is relativo to the current location of the file | 12:20 |
| jelkner | anyway, typle ls and tell me what you see | 12:20 |
| Doisaac | public.html | 12:21 |
| Doisaac | _ | 12:21 |
| jelkner | good | 12:21 |
| jelkner | now type pwd and tell me what you see | 12:21 |
| Doisaac | /home/barrera | 12:21 |
| jelkner | great | 12:21 |
| Doisaac | dbarrera | 12:21 |
| jelkner | so, pwd gave you your current working directory | 12:21 |
| jelkner | pwd means "print working directory" | 12:22 |
| jelkner | when you type ls, which is the list command | 12:22 |
| jelkner | you see the files inside your current working directory | 12:22 |
| Doisaac | oh | 12:22 |
| jelkner | this is some important vocabulary: | 12:22 |
| jelkner | 1. working directory | 12:23 |
| jelkner | 2. ls and pwd | 12:23 |
| Doisaac | get it | 12:23 |
| jelkner | those are unix vocabulary terms | 12:23 |
| jelkner | now a web server vocabulary term | 12:24 |
| jelkner | document root | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you around? | 12:24 |
| jelkner | your document root is the directory where the web server looks for your website | 12:24 |
| jelkner | yours is: | 12:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you wanted to talk? | 12:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 12:25 |
| jelkner | '/home/dbareera/public_html' | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll switch to private messages to not keep interrupting jelkner | 12:25 |
| Doisaac | im here rigth? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | so, Doisaac, let's change your working directory to your document root | 12:25 |
| jelkner | cd public_html | 12:25 |
| jelkner | do that and tell me what you see | 12:25 |
| Doisaac | i enter to the public_html | 12:26 |
| Doisaac | ? | 12:26 |
| jelkner | $ cd public_html | 12:26 |
| jelkner | run that command at the unix prompt | 12:26 |
| Doisaac | yes , done | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ls | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ls is the list command | 12:26 |
| Doisaac | index.html | 12:27 |
| jelkner | you run it whenever you want to "see" what is in your working directly | 12:27 |
| Doisaac | and min.html | 12:27 |
| jelkner | yup | 12:27 |
| jelkner | that's right | 12:27 |
| jelkner | now, you want to copy the min.html to gdw.html | 12:27 |
| jelkner | $ cp min.html gdw.html | 12:27 |
| jelkner | then type ls again to see that it is there | 12:27 |
| Doisaac | gdw.html is new | 12:28 |
| jelkner | great | 12:28 |
| jelkner | another useful thing now would be to get a long listing | 12:28 |
| jelkner | ls -l | 12:28 |
| jelkner | you can see that min.html and gdw.html have the same size | 12:29 |
| Doisaac | -rw-r--r-- 1 dbarrera dbarrera 264 Apr 7 12:28 gdw.html | 12:29 |
| Doisaac | -rw-r--r-- 1 dbarrera dbarrera 375 Mar 24 10:44 index.html | 12:29 |
| Doisaac | -rw-r--r-- 1 dbarrera dbarrera 264 Mar 24 10:43 min.html | 12:29 |
| jelkner | great | 12:29 |
| jelkner | i'm only going to bring your attention to the 264 here | 12:29 |
| jelkner | that is the size of the file | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it's the same because you made a copy | 12:30 |
| jelkner | ok, step-by-step | 12:30 |
| jelkner | here is your next task, and i'm going to ask you to repeat it to me: | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | GFbot, i'm pinging you in google chat | 12:31 |
| Doisaac | first ls | 12:31 |
| jelkner | using your favorite editor, edit gdw.html so that it has the h2 and list items you had in the version i deleted | 12:31 |
| jelkner | *but no links*! | 12:31 |
| jelkner | not yet | 12:31 |
| jelkner | got that? | 12:31 |
| jelkner | i don't know how busy you are with school | 12:31 |
| jelkner | but we should meet briefly during the week | 12:32 |
| jelkner | we don't want to wait 2 weeks | 12:32 |
| jelkner | unless you're really busy | 12:32 |
| jelkner | let me know | 12:32 |
| jelkner | what time do you get home from school? | 12:32 |
| Doisaac | i go to school every day | 12:32 |
| Doisaac | from 7 am to 6 pm. | 12:33 |
| jelkner | wow | 12:33 |
| Doisaac | salvadorian time | 12:33 |
| jelkner | that's a long day! | 12:33 |
| jelkner | so there is no rush | 12:33 |
| jelkner | but i really want to check-in with you at each step | 12:33 |
| Doisaac | friday i get home at 5 pm | 12:33 |
| jelkner | it is harder to unlearn things then to learn them right the first time | 12:34 |
| Doisaac | saturday im free all the evening, cause i go to UNIVERSITY at morning | 12:34 |
| jelkner | what about thursday? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | nice | 12:34 |
| jelkner | University? | 12:34 |
| jelkner | how old are you, Doisaac? | 12:34 |
| Doisaac | no but Learning English | 12:35 |
| Doisaac | I'm 15 years old | 12:35 |
| jelkner | wow, University at 15 | 12:35 |
| jelkner | your English is fabulous, btw | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i only wish my Spanish was half as good | 12:35 |
| Doisaac | No no , i am in High School | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i need to improve it this Summer ;-) | 12:35 |
| Doisaac | ahha your Spanish is good too | 12:36 |
| jelkner | would you be able to meet this Thursday evening? | 12:36 |
| Doisaac | I had listened it, | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i am going away for Spring break starting Friday | 12:36 |
| jelkner | that's why i can't make the Sunday meeting | 12:36 |
| Doisaac | Thursday I get to School at 6 | 12:36 |
| jelkner | what time do you get home? | 12:37 |
| jelkner | what time is it there now? | 12:37 |
| Doisaac | i am at home like at 7 pm | 12:37 |
| Doisaac | it 's 10 37 am | 12:37 |
| jelkner | so 7 pm your time is 9 pm my time | 12:38 |
| jelkner | that's too late | 12:38 |
| Doisaac | Yes,... | 12:38 |
| jelkner | we may have to wait 2 weeks | 12:38 |
| jelkner | let's do that | 12:38 |
| jelkner | patience | 12:38 |
| Doisaac | at morning i have free time | 12:38 |
| jelkner | i start work at 8 am | 12:38 |
| jelkner | but i get there at 6 am | 12:38 |
| jelkner | which is 4 am your time | 12:39 |
| Doisaac | ohh | 12:39 |
| jelkner | my students arrive at 6 am your time | 12:39 |
| Doisaac | ohh yes you are teacher .. | 12:39 |
| Doisaac | so | 12:39 |
| jelkner | i have a break from (your time) 7:30 am until 9 am | 12:39 |
| jelkner | and from 10:30 am to 11:30 am | 12:40 |
| jelkner | (that's my lunch) | 12:40 |
| Doisaac | at 11 i get out of my home | 12:40 |
| jelkner | what are you doing at 8 am your time? | 12:40 |
| Doisaac | i free at this time, at Thursday | 12:41 |
| jelkner | perfect | 12:41 |
| Doisaac | im free from 7 to 9 pm too | 12:41 |
| Doisaac | am sorry | 12:41 |
| jelkner | i will now add to my calendar, meet with Douglas at 10 am | 12:41 |
| jelkner | (my time) | 12:41 |
| Doisaac | 8:00 for me rigth? | 12:41 |
| jelkner | yup | 12:42 |
| jelkner | on this irc channel | 12:42 |
| jelkner | a 15 minute meeting is all we need | 12:42 |
| jelkner | i want to look over your gdw.html | 12:42 |
| jelkner | and give you your next task | 12:42 |
| Doisaac | so what's my homework? | 12:42 |
| jelkner | so, what did i ask you to do with gdw.html? | 12:42 |
| Doisaac | i'm no clear about that | 12:43 |
| jelkner | ok, tell me if you understand this: | 12:43 |
| jelkner | 1. edit gdw.html to have the h2 heading described in lesson 2 of gdw html | 12:44 |
| jelkner | 2. instead of h3 elements, make them li elements (list items) inside ul (unordered lists) | 12:44 |
| jelkner | *do not make links yet*! | 12:44 |
| jelkner | just list items | 12:44 |
| jelkner | does that make sense? | 12:45 |
| Doisaac | mm the first one | 12:45 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:46 |
| Doisaac | h2 ? its <h2> | 12:46 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:46 |
| Doisaac | it mean i have to change it | 12:46 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 12:46 |
| Doisaac | and h3 convertirlos a listas | 12:46 |
| Doisaac | can i say it in spanish? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | por favor | 12:47 |
| Doisaac | Quiere que : lo primero edite gdw.html | 12:48 |
| Doisaac | pero no compreno que tengo que editar | 12:48 |
| Doisaac | comprendo* | 12:48 |
| jelkner | como en los ejercisios de leccion 2 | 12:48 |
| Doisaac | quiere que le quite los links verdad? | 12:48 |
| jelkner | no links! | 12:49 |
| jelkner | you aren't going to quite them | 12:49 |
| jelkner | since you are making the page over again *on the server* | 12:49 |
| jelkner | using nano | 12:49 |
| jelkner | so all you have not is a copy of min.html | 12:49 |
| jelkner | you need to edit gdw.html with nano | 12:49 |
| jelkner | and do what it says to do in lesson 2 | 12:50 |
| jelkner | hold on | 12:50 |
| jelkner | this may be easier to follow | 12:50 |
| jelkner | ... | 12:50 |
| Doisaac | oh, like repeat lesson 2 | 12:50 |
| Doisaac | i got it | 12:50 |
| jelkner | Yes! | 12:50 |
| jelkner | repeat lesson 2 | 12:51 |
| jelkner | but on the server | 12:51 |
| jelkner | using only the cli tools available there | 12:51 |
| Doisaac | editing it .. ok , | 12:51 |
| jelkner | i am leaving here in 25 minutes | 12:51 |
| jelkner | so we may need to continue on thursday | 12:51 |
| Doisaac | ok Jeff | 12:52 |
| jelkner | but we can also have a few exchanges by email | 12:52 |
| Doisaac | Perfect | 12:52 |
| jelkner | the next thing i want to hear from you is when you are done lesson w | 12:52 |
| jelkner | 2 | 12:52 |
| jelkner | i'll look at it and describe what to do after that | 12:52 |
| jelkner | sound good? | 12:52 |
| Doisaac | sure | 12:53 |
| jelkner | muy bien | 12:53 |
| jelkner | esta jueves entonces | 12:53 |
| Doisaac | editar gdw como lessión 2 , muy bien | 12:53 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:54 |
| Doisaac | see you Jeff | 12:54 |
| jelkner | see you Douglas | 12:54 |
| Doisaac | Thank you | 12:54 |
| jelkner | your very welcome | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | Doisaac, jelkner | 12:54 |
| Doisaac | Hi | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | don't want to be "intrusive?" | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | what salvadorean time are you meeting on thursday? | 12:54 |
| Doisaac | at 8 :00 a:m | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | 8 am SV time 10 am VA? | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you confirm ^? | 12:55 |
| Doisaac | 10 for him, i think | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | Doisaac, thank you, i just wasn't clear | 12:56 |
| Doisaac | ok i hope he confirm you . | 12:57 |
| jelkner | confirmed | 12:58 |
| jelkner | 10 am my time | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | awesome, thank you both | 12:58 |
| jelkner | 8 am ES time | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | SV time! | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | :P | 12:59 |
| jelkner | thank you for checking up on us, replaceafill | 12:59 |
| jelkner | SV time, yes! | 12:59 |
| Doisaac | bye replaceafill | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | see you Doisaac o/ | 12:59 |
| Doisaac | bye jelkner | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | o/ <= that's a guy waving btw | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | btw = by the way | 13:00 |
| Doisaac | oh jeje | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, zOnny is next weekend a good target for the ARA testing server? | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | or do you need it sooner? | 13:01 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to have it up ASAP | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you get the linode emails today? | 13:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: about Celina ? | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | yes | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | you may want to double check eveything went back up | 13:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | always do that after email like that | 13:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will keep that in mind. | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | :+1: | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | i've been using slack too much lately :P | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | :+1: <= is a thumbs up hand | 13:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah good tip. | 13:09 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, again, way late in responding, but yes: We have considerable time at this point, So, no rush. | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, cool thanks for confirming | 13:12 |
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