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nrcerna | !remind | 09:21 |
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nrcerna | !remind check in (progress) NOVALAVALACIRO (Stefan, Heylin and German) | 09:23 |
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ubuntourist | In the space now. | 09:29 |
ubuntourist | If you need to be let in, | 09:29 |
ubuntourist | I think both of these should reach me | 09:30 |
ubuntourist | HacDC: 202-556-4225 (HACK)Google Voice, (I hope): (202) 683-7559 | 09:30 |
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ubuntourist | jelkner, Good timing. | 09:31 |
jelkner | Good morning nrcerna and ubuntourist | 09:31 |
nrcerna | Gm jelkner | 09:32 |
jelkner | What's up, ubuntourist? | 09:32 |
nrcerna | Gm ubuntourist | 09:32 |
jelkner | i was about to try to get the financial report together | 09:32 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, My bad regarding communication: I don't have a number for young padawan Stefan. I'm at the space, but I don't know if he knows how to call to get in. | 09:33 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I've sent him a message (CC'd you) and will keep headphones and music off until I hear from him, | 09:33 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, Hi ;-) | 09:34 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i'll email you his phone number | 09:34 |
jelkner | but i need to focus a bit to get the report together before the meeting after thqt | 09:34 |
jelkner | that | 09:34 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, which is why this was good timing. ;-) | 09:34 |
jelkner | phone number send, ubuntourist | 09:36 |
jelkner | and i don't know that guy you emailed about | 09:36 |
jelkner | no time to read email now | 09:36 |
jelkner | but name is unfamiliar | 09:36 |
ubuntourist | !remind Google Business (expect postcard) | 09:58 |
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ubuntourist | !remind | 09:58 |
ubuntourist | !remind Reminder: Friday afternoon meeting at Gallaudet coming up. (Nothing more to say about that, really.) | 09:59 |
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ubuntourist | lbolz, g' day, as the Aussies would say. | 10:08 |
lbolz | morning! | 10:11 |
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ubuntourist | BRB | 10:44 |
jelkner | !remind | 10:52 |
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GFbot : +jelkner : lbolz : @ubuntourist : nrcerna : wolcen : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ | 10:56 | |
LibreOrganize ready for the political season (ORA and NEA4OR site status) (jelkner) | 10:56 | |
check in (progress) NOVALAVALACIRO (Stefan, Heylin and German) (nrcerna) | 10:56 | |
Google Business (expect postcard) (ubuntourist) | 10:56 | |
Reminder: Friday afternoon meeting at Gallaudet coming up. (Nothing more to say about that, really.) (ubuntourist) | 10:56 | |
jelkner | Good morning, everyone! | 10:56 |
ubuntourist | Hi | 10:57 |
lbolz | good morning! | 10:57 |
jelkner | let's role with this | 10:57 |
ubuntourist | A tad early, I see... | 10:57 |
jelkner | lbolz, did you see my email about your new mentor? | 10:58 |
ubuntourist | Oh. I thought I was chairing, and was going to wait 3 minutes.... But since you're taking charge... | 10:58 |
lbolz | yes i saw it | 10:58 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I defer to you. | 10:58 |
jelkner | no sir, it was a request | 10:58 |
jelkner | your in charge | 10:58 |
jelkner | s/you're/your | 10:58 |
ubuntourist | In the hopes that a certain absent party will check in, I'm going to give it two minutes. | 10:59 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i imagine he is away | 10:59 |
jelkner | since if he didn't answer his phone | 10:59 |
jelkner | he isn't likely to show up | 10:59 |
ubuntourist | Shhhowtime! | 11:01 |
ubuntourist | So. Item 1: Monthly financials from the good mr. jelkner | 11:01 |
jelkner | i sent out an email this morning | 11:01 |
jelkner | i need to learn to produce proper financial reports | 11:01 |
jelkner | the workshop i attended at the baltimore coop conference gave me the broad idea about what we need | 11:02 |
jelkner | now i need to learn to do it | 11:02 |
jelkner | not much happened in november | 11:02 |
jelkner | we made the regular payment to nrcerna and GFbot | 11:02 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I need to learn to read financial reports -- proper or not. ;-) | 11:03 |
jelkner | no revenue | 11:03 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i'll be tasked with training us on that | 11:03 |
jelkner | but i need to learn first | 11:03 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 11:03 |
jelkner | unless there are questions | 11:03 |
nrcerna | "No revenue" - we need to keep moving to make it happen (just saying) | 11:04 |
jelkner | nrcerna, thanks | 11:04 |
jelkner | for bringing that up | 11:04 |
jelkner | we need to get NOVALACIRO delivered | 11:04 |
nrcerna | +1 | 11:04 |
jelkner | and we can bill them | 11:04 |
nrcerna | Of course | 11:04 |
jelkner | and we have a meeting with Gallaudet next friday | 11:05 |
jelkner | for a potential new contract | 11:05 |
jelkner | regarding timeline, nrcerna | 11:05 |
nrcerna | Sweet | 11:05 |
jelkner | i'm thinking we need to work real hard to be ready for next july / august | 11:05 |
nrcerna | +1 | 11:05 |
jelkner | by which we need to really start looking for gigs | 11:05 |
nrcerna | +1 | 11:05 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 11:05 |
ubuntourist | In the interest of "keep moving" ;-) - assuming no other members of the peanut gallery weighing in... | 11:06 |
ubuntourist | Item 2: Sign and Read and our training program, again from jelkner | 11:06 |
jelkner | in brief | 11:06 |
ubuntourist | (Put your pants on.) | 11:06 |
ubuntourist | ;-) | 11:07 |
jelkner | my brother agreed to work with lbolz, nrcerna, and zOnny | 11:07 |
jelkner | each thursday from 6 to 7 pm | 11:07 |
jelkner | starting this week | 11:07 |
ubuntourist | +1 that | 11:07 |
jelkner | great opportunity for us | 11:07 |
nrcerna | Great! | 11:07 |
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ubuntourist | welcome hrodriguez | 11:07 |
jelkner | GM, hrodriguez | 11:07 |
nrcerna | gm, hrodriguez | 11:08 |
hrodriguez | Good morning everyone! | 11:08 |
jelkner | The three of you can start with him this week | 11:08 |
jelkner | i have digital artifacts on my laptop | 11:08 |
jelkner | that i'll be bringing back with me | 11:08 |
jelkner | videos and artwork | 11:08 |
ubuntourist | (http://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2019-12-01.log.html) | 11:08 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 11:10 |
ubuntourist | Moving on... | 11:10 |
ubuntourist | Item 3: LibreOrganize ready for the political season (ORA and NEA4OR site status) | 11:10 |
ubuntourist | again, jelkner | 11:11 |
jelkner | i put it on the agenda | 11:11 |
jelkner | but i'm asking, not telling | 11:11 |
jelkner | in terms of our business plan | 11:11 |
jelkner | timing is important | 11:11 |
jelkner | we won't have another presidential season for 4 years | 11:11 |
nrcerna | We agreed this week that GFbot needs to focus on ORA right jelkner? | 11:11 |
jelkner | so if we can get nea4or ready in a month | 11:11 |
jelkner | we can use it | 11:11 |
jelkner | this time round | 11:12 |
jelkner | otherwise, we miss a big opportunity | 11:12 |
jelkner | ora is an ongoing concern | 11:12 |
jelkner | so that we can use at any time | 11:12 |
nrcerna | Ok, | 11:12 |
ubuntourist | Yes all, the Silly Season in American politics is already well started. So, as jelkner says often enough, timing is important. | 11:13 |
nrcerna | just to be clear, what nea4or needs, in order to have basic LO theme migration? jelkner | 11:13 |
nrcerna | we need to know to plan that with GFbot | 11:13 |
jelkner | we need to manage membership, nrcerna | 11:13 |
jelkner | just like novalaciro and ora | 11:13 |
jelkner | that's the main thing LibreOrganzie needs to deliver | 11:14 |
jelkner | it's all about data | 11:14 |
jelkner | we're in the data business | 11:14 |
nrcerna | So we are good,this could be a smooth transition jelkner | 11:14 |
jelkner | as my brother said to me years ago | 11:14 |
jelkner | reports, reports, reports | 11:14 |
jelkner | that's what we need to deliver | 11:14 |
jelkner | effective reports that present data to users in a way that empowers them to do their organizing | 11:15 |
nrcerna | Ok, we need to take care of automate that jelkner as I mentioned, I have no trouble doing that manually, but we need to skill up | 11:15 |
jelkner | that is the essential essence of libreorganzie | 11:15 |
jelkner | +1 | 11:15 |
jelkner | nrcerna, you should do them manually so that you can learn what needs to be done | 11:16 |
nrcerna | I'm going to coordinate that with GFbot as well this week and send you all a report | 11:16 |
jelkner | but the power is real time automated reports | 11:16 |
jelkner | that are accessible at any time | 11:16 |
jelkner | to the end user | 11:16 |
jelkner | without having to ask you, nrcerna | 11:16 |
ubuntourist | Data in forms that can be reported, analyzed, massaged, searched, etc. (Never anticipate -- or rather, don't limit your expectations regarding -- how someone else might use data.) | 11:16 |
nrcerna | +1 | 11:16 |
jelkner | but will do this in an agile way, ubuntourist | 11:17 |
jelkner | our customers will determine what reports we generate | 11:17 |
jelkner | by telling us what they need | 11:17 |
jelkner | so we can create simple, easy to use, clean interfaces to the data they need | 11:17 |
nrcerna | I know that GFbot is really smart have the skills to start creating something like this, he only need to learn abour data | 11:17 |
jelkner | well, novalaciro is the best place to start | 11:18 |
nrcerna | (I need to learn about that too) | 11:18 |
jelkner | since we have hrodriguez as one of us | 11:18 |
nrcerna | +1 | 11:18 |
jelkner | so we need to get the new website for novalaciro up ASAP | 11:18 |
nrcerna | Yes, speaking of that where is Stefan? | 11:19 |
jelkner | nrcerna, i don't know | 11:19 |
nrcerna | me either, I sent him an email a few day to check in (I cc'd yo jelkner) | 11:20 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, too many years of working with data scientists who knew how to work with data... (I usually found for them, the more the better. But, since we're paid by time not product, the agile approach makes sense.) | 11:20 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, Last I heard from him he was supposed to be meeting with me, but alas, no sign. | 11:20 |
ubuntourist | So, Moving on? Going once... | 11:20 |
ubuntourist | Going twice... | 11:21 |
nrcerna | I have a question | 11:21 |
jelkner | nrcerna, communication is soo important | 11:21 |
jelkner | don't know what happened to Stefan | 11:21 |
jelkner | that's why we need to scale up | 11:21 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, go ahead | 11:21 |
jelkner | can't have single points of failure | 11:21 |
nrcerna | We know that Stefan maybe is busy with his class | 11:21 |
jelkner | let's move on | 11:22 |
nrcerna | should GFbot see where Stefan is (with the code) and try to finnish that? or should we wait for Stefan? | 11:22 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, was there a question? Or move on. | 11:22 |
jelkner | nrcerna, GFbot is our main developer | 11:23 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, Sorry. I didn't see your question until after I hit enter. | 11:23 |
jelkner | he should always try to take charge of the whole process | 11:23 |
jelkner | with you helping him | 11:23 |
nrcerna | Ok | 11:23 |
jelkner | interns will come and go | 11:23 |
ubuntourist | So... Next item: check in (progress) NOVALAVALACIRO (Stefan, Heylin and German) | 11:23 |
ubuntourist | nrcerna, you're the author of that one. | 11:24 |
nrcerna | GFbot is going to do that before nea4or | 11:24 |
nrcerna | (I think we already start with this item jelkner | 11:24 |
nrcerna | meaning I just wanted to check in the progress | 11:24 |
nrcerna | hrodriguez, sent me a google doc with info | 11:25 |
nrcerna | so we are going to use that to fill the content on the website | 11:25 |
nrcerna | I'm going to share with GFbot what I did for the website and he could check what Stefan did on Id cards and profile pictures) | 11:26 |
nrcerna | ACTION done | 11:26 |
ubuntourist | Speaking of Google Docs, this is a good segue... | 11:27 |
ubuntourist | Items 5 & 6 are from yours truly. | 11:27 |
ubuntourist | Item 5: Google Business (expect postcard) | 11:27 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm hoping by the time you return to the wilds of VA a postcard with a verification code will be waiting for you. | 11:28 |
jelkner | i'll let you know as soon as i do, ubuntourist | 11:28 |
ubuntourist | For the rest of you... | 11:28 |
jelkner | hopefully today | 11:28 |
ubuntourist | I've signed us up for Google Business. While we'd like to divorce from Google, we need to find a new romantic partner that shares our values. ;-) | 11:29 |
ubuntourist | Until then, a dependence on Google remains. | 11:29 |
ubuntourist | FWIW: https://business.google.com/dashboard/l/00748081444882149695/getstarted?hl=en&gmbsrc=ww-ww-ot-gs-z-gmb-l-z-h~z-ogb-u | 11:29 |
ubuntourist | is the URL to access the Google Business page. | 11:29 |
ubuntourist | I don't know if everyone can see it, but at the moment, jelkner, nrcerna and I (ubuntourist) can. | 11:30 |
ubuntourist | In theory, it may help customers find us. We'll see. | 11:30 |
ubuntourist | ACTION is done with Item 5 | 11:31 |
ubuntourist | Last, and least Item 6 is really just a !remind reminder. ;-) Not much to say. | 11:31 |
ubuntourist | As jelkner already mentioned: Reminder: Friday afternoon meeting at Gallaudet coming up. | 11:32 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, we are running long on our time | 11:32 |
jelkner | but i had something quick to report on this item | 11:32 |
ubuntourist | This is in regard to the Research Support and International Affairs (RSIA) department at Gallaudet, which anticipates dropping the "RS" portion of their name and services. | 11:33 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, go ahead. | 11:33 |
jelkner | on Tuesday, i saw one of my very talented sophomore students signing in class | 11:33 |
jelkner | she is a 2nd year ASL student | 11:33 |
jelkner | i asked her if she would be interested in an internship | 11:33 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, do tell. ;-) | 11:34 |
jelkner | let's see what happens | 11:34 |
jelkner | but we have an ASL program at ACC | 11:34 |
jelkner | so the possibility for synergies abound | 11:34 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 11:34 |
jelkner | more later | 11:34 |
ubuntourist | Well, I think that's a wrap. | 11:35 |
ubuntourist | Any volunteer chairs for one week hence (Dec 8)? | 11:35 |
ubuntourist | P.S. to all Stefan will be AWOL from Dec 10 to Dec 24, and then it's the holidays... So, probably not seeing him til January, in reality. | 11:36 |
ubuntourist | (He said in his e-mail, IIRC, that he'll be available electronically, but I know how vacations and travel go, and the reality may be far different.) | 11:37 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i'm confused | 11:38 |
jelkner | Stefan said he would come with us Friday | 11:38 |
jelkner | i'll reach out to him tomorrow | 11:38 |
ubuntourist | Friday is the 6th. Six comes before ten. You are confused. ;-) | 11:38 |
jelkner | GFbot, can you chair? | 11:39 |
GFbot | yes | 11:39 |
ubuntourist | !remind 2019.12.08 Chair = GFbot | 11:39 |
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ubuntourist | And with that, the gravel falleth, methinks. | 11:39 |
ubuntourist | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:40 |
jelkner | ok, everyone, time for me to drive back to va | 11:41 |
jelkner | nrcerna, i'll call you tomorrow during planning | 11:41 |
nrcerna | Sure jelkner | 11:42 |
jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:42 |
ubuntourist | [AWOL = Away WithOut Leave = missing. Originally a military term but used in popular culture to refer to someone who becomes "unreachable" for a time.] | 11:42 |
ubuntourist | [IIRC = If I Recall Correctly] | 11:43 |
ubuntourist | ACTION wanders away... | 11:43 |
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