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| nrcerna_ | ACTION meeting with Douglas | 09:13 |
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| replaceafill | hello jelkner | 09:36 |
| jelkner | hello replaceafill, great to talk to you! | 09:37 |
| jelkner | i've only got 20 minutes, replaceafill | 09:37 |
| jelkner | then i have to run off a quiz and prepare for my next class | 09:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 09:37 |
| jelkner | so let's jump right in | 09:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, kk | 09:37 |
| jelkner | ACTION is all ears | 09:38 |
| jelkner | (or eyes, in this case ;-) | 09:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i just talked to nrcerna_ | 09:38 |
| jelkner | great, replaceafill | 09:39 |
| jelkner | i was hoping she would reach out to you | 09:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if i understand the question right: how much time should German invest learning ARA? | 09:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, did i get it right? | 09:39 |
| jelkner | well, more broadly, the question is, should we pursue a contract with Gallaudet? | 09:40 |
| jelkner | we have an ongoing problem of becoming a successful business | 09:40 |
| jelkner | that means skilling up | 09:40 |
| jelkner | and as you know, we ain't there yet | 09:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, are you willing to completely pause libreorganize's development in the meantime? | 09:41 |
| jelkner | i don't think that will be necessary at all | 09:41 |
| jelkner | the goal is for GFbot to determine *if* he could support ARA if he needed to | 09:41 |
| jelkner | nrcerna_, and i have to make a business decision | 09:42 |
| jelkner | zOnny got thrown into the deep end and almost drowned | 09:42 |
| jelkner | we don't want that to happen again | 09:42 |
| jelkner | i think the goal would still be for him to be the main dev on ARA work | 09:42 |
| jelkner | but he needs to know he can go to GFbot when he gets in over his head | 09:43 |
| jelkner | LibreOrganize is not moving as fast as I had hoped, btw | 09:43 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure why | 09:43 |
| jelkner | i was planning on talking with nrcerna_ about that today | 09:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've been away for a long time, but i sense the same pattern: you're not a team | 09:43 |
| jelkner | yes, replacefill, i know | 09:44 |
| jelkner | i will say that nrcerna_ and i *are* a team | 09:44 |
| jelkner | she rocks! | 09:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, neither Edzon is trained to ask for German's help and German is not trained to provide help | 09:44 |
| jelkner | but herding the other cats in our outfit is a real challenge | 09:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure, nrcerna_ is at another level | 09:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, she's a profressional | 09:44 |
| jelkner | including GFbot, as you know | 09:44 |
| jelkner | but we are what we are, my dear friend | 09:45 |
| jelkner | and nrcerna_ and i need to see if we can make it work | 09:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 09:45 |
| jelkner | so getting GFbot and zOnny to work together is crucial | 09:45 |
| jelkner | we can't give up on that | 09:45 |
| jelkner | here is another opportunity to try | 09:45 |
| jelkner | btw. aelkner is working with nrcerna_ and zOnny on Sign and Read | 09:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i Edzon working part time? | 09:46 |
| replaceafill | is* | 09:46 |
| jelkner | he had to take a job a restaurant | 09:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah yes, saw the logs | 09:46 |
| jelkner | so the dream is to bring him back full time | 09:46 |
| jelkner | but we need income | 09:46 |
| jelkner | which we don't have | 09:46 |
| jelkner | to do that | 09:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, egg chicken problem :) | 09:47 |
| jelkner | yup, same old problem | 09:47 |
| jelkner | anyway, to make a long story short | 09:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if you're interested in German's opinion on ARA | 09:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'd recommend having him to set it up | 09:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and go through it | 09:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, probably with Kevin's or Edzon's help | 09:48 |
| jelkner | i was hoping nrcerna_ would get an idea from you as to how many hours would be reasonable for GFbot to get a feel for the ARA problem | 09:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, in a timely fashion (with meetings and dates) | 09:48 |
| jelkner | +1 | 09:48 |
| jelkner | nrcerna_, you would need to manage that | 09:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, problem is German doesn't behave like a normal developer | 09:48 |
| jelkner | yes, my friend, i know | 09:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i could tell you: this should take him 4 hours | 09:48 |
| jelkner | it kills me | 09:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and he would deliver those 4 hours in a 3 weeks span | 09:48 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i said to nrcerna_ "i think half a day is reasonable" | 09:49 |
| jelkner | but i wanted your opinion | 09:49 |
| jelkner | so i was on target | 09:49 |
| jelkner | nrcerna_, you need to go sit with him | 09:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure, but start with that approach: make him set it up using instructions written by either Edzon or Kevin | 09:49 |
| jelkner | if he can't deliver, we are in deeeeep trouble | 09:50 |
| jelkner | this is our ongoing story | 09:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, then have that same person to explain the system trhough a call | 09:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i have no doubt of this tech capacity | 09:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, even with ARA | 09:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, which is a set of straight forward django apps | 09:50 |
| jelkner | yes, replaceafill, but that that doesn't matter if there isn't self control to deliver | 09:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, correct | 09:51 |
| jelkner | yes, ARA is fairly simple | 09:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, as you said in your last meeting | 09:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, this is not a tech problem | 09:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's a people's problem | 09:51 |
| jelkner | +1 | 09:51 |
| jelkner | so, nrcerna_ | 09:51 |
| jelkner | do you have what you need? | 09:51 |
| jelkner | i need to contact zOnnny, and you need to have a heart-to-heart with your cousin | 09:52 |
| nrcerna_ | I'm thinking about all you said | 09:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what's the backup if German is not interested? | 09:52 |
| jelkner | we are pretty screwed at present without German | 09:53 |
| jelkner | since he is the only developer i can afford to pay from my own pocket | 09:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but you're not moving much with him anyway? | 09:53 |
| jelkner | the path out of this is to: | 09:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or as fast as you would expect anyway | 09:54 |
| jelkner | yes, i know | 09:54 |
| jelkner | but replaceafill, i'm too stubborn and stupid to give up | 09:54 |
| jelkner | as you know | 09:54 |
| jelkner | so i keep on pushing forward | 09:54 |
| jelkner | i have incredibly talented students this year | 09:55 |
| jelkner | and a new program with "Senior Capstone" that promises a steady stream of very skilled interns | 09:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sorry i interrupted your "path out of this" | 09:55 |
| jelkner | we have lbolz this year | 09:55 |
| jelkner | i need to go, replaceafill | 09:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 09:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, great talking to you my friend | 09:56 |
| jelkner | I'm so glad i came there last Summer | 09:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me know if i can help | 09:56 |
| replaceafill | :) | 09:56 |
| jelkner | the way i see it, German can either code for us or drive a truck or whatever | 09:56 |
| jelkner | he will want to code with us | 09:56 |
| jelkner | we just have to keep pushing him | 09:56 |
| replaceafill | it's a vicious circle imho | 09:56 |
| jelkner | that is for nrcerna_ to decide | 09:57 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 09:57 |
| jelkner | since it's her problem now, not yours :-( | 09:57 |
| nrcerna_ | :( | 09:57 |
| jelkner | ok, nrcerna_ i have a half day tomorrow | 09:57 |
| replaceafill | ok, see you everybody o/ | 09:57 |
| jelkner | thanks, replaceafill! | 09:58 |
| jelkner | nrcerna_, i'm going to give you a quick call again... | 09:58 |
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| nrcerna_ | ACTION Meeting with German | 10:46 |
| nrcerna_ | hey GFbot, replaceafill is on hangouts | 13:22 |
| nrcerna_ | you should ask him about we was reading for the languages GFbot | 13:23 |
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| nrcerna | heeeeeeey | 17:04 |
| nrcerna | te fuiste GFbot | 17:04 |
| GFbot | nrcerna, ando haciendo tu canal | 17:05 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 17:05 |
| nrcerna | Nuesto canal de reportes GFbot | 17:05 |
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| GFbot | #novawebdev_scrum | 17:17 |
| GFbot | @mjsir911, are you there? | 18:26 |
| nrcerna | GFbot, Porfa no se te olvide lo de tu reporte | 18:57 |
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