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| jelkner | !remind | 10:34 |
| jelkner | !remind Natalia chair 2019-12-22 meeting | 10:35 |
| "Natalia chair 2019-12-22 meeting" added to message queue | 10:35 | |
| ubuntourist | !remind | 10:35 |
| jelkner | !rename learn channel from - to _ | 10:36 |
| jelkner | !remind rename learn channel from - to _ | 10:37 |
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| jelkner | Goog morning GFbot | 10:42 |
| GFbot | hello jelkner | 10:42 |
| jelkner | BigBrother was broken | 10:43 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist is working to fix it | 10:43 |
| jelkner | we lost our agenda | 10:43 |
| jelkner | so nrcerna is going to need to re-add that | 10:43 |
| jelkner | After that, GFbot, i'm hoping you can work today with hrodriguez | 10:44 |
| GFbot | :( | 10:44 |
| jelkner | she needs access to data! | 10:44 |
| jelkner | did you get a separate server setup of NOVALACIRO admin? | 10:44 |
| jelkner | that's what we agreed to do, right? | 10:44 |
| jelkner | one, bi-lingual public facing website | 10:45 |
| jelkner | at novalaciro.org | 10:45 |
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| jelkner | cool, Big_Brother is back | 10:46 |
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| nrcerna | !remind NOVALACIRO report and testing | 10:47 |
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| nrcerna | !remind Plans for this week | 10:47 |
| "Plans for this week" added to message queue | 10:47 | |
| jelkner | GFbot, don't touch Big_Brother | 10:48 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist will handle that | 10:48 |
| jelkner | too many cooks spoil the stew ;-) | 10:48 |
| jelkner | Good morning, nrcerna | 10:48 |
| jelkner | OK, since logging is back | 10:48 |
| jelkner | GFbot as i was saying | 10:49 |
| jelkner | or asking | 10:49 |
| nrcerna | gm jelkner | 10:49 |
| jelkner | and i'm glad nrcerna is here for this conversation | 10:49 |
| nrcerna | i just came to GFbot place | 10:49 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, we need to get hrodriguez able to use LibreOrganize to organize | 10:50 |
| jelkner | as i've been saying over and over and over | 10:50 |
| jelkner | we are going into the data business | 10:50 |
| jelkner | LibreOrganize is about reports and data | 10:50 |
| jelkner | and communication | 10:51 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 10:51 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, we need to start making it do that effectively | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we lost more than 3 weeks on NOVALACIRO | 10:51 |
| jelkner | and we are behind | 10:51 |
| jelkner | part of the problem was not understanding how much of a problem translation was going to be | 10:52 |
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| jelkner | gm, lbolz | 10:52 |
| lbolz | morning | 10:52 |
| jelkner | but nrcerna, you and i need to draw a lesson from this experience | 10:52 |
| jelkner | we let it go on too long | 10:52 |
| jelkner | after week 1, we should have been pressing GFbot for an ETA (estimated time of arrival) | 10:53 |
| jelkner | when he couldn't produce one | 10:53 |
| nrcerna | I know but I would say that we only have GFbot as full time developer and we depend of his skills and what he knows, right? jelkner | 10:53 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna | 10:53 |
| nrcerna | I talked about ETA with replaceafill | 10:53 |
| jelkner | that is a problem too | 10:53 |
| nrcerna | we met him a couple of time during this "lost weeks" | 10:54 |
| jelkner | we need at least one other full time developer | 10:54 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, i have a question for you | 10:54 |
| nrcerna | We tried to follow what he recommend us | 10:54 |
| nrcerna | yes? | 10:54 |
| jelkner | what to you think the possibility is to recruit another developer in El Salvador? | 10:54 |
| jelkner | at this stage, we can't afford US developers | 10:54 |
| nrcerna | I think is a good idea | 10:54 |
| jelkner | they cost too much | 10:55 |
| nrcerna | I know | 10:55 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, talk to your uncle about that | 10:55 |
| nrcerna | we could try to find someone here to support GFbot | 10:55 |
| nrcerna | sure | 10:55 |
| jelkner | my idea would be to reach out to the free software movement there | 10:55 |
| jelkner | since we want someone who believes in free software | 10:55 |
| nrcerna | GFbot told me several times that he needs zOnny back | 10:56 |
| jelkner | yes, nrcerna, but we need a good Gallaudet contract for that | 10:56 |
| nrcerna | but we need revenue to bring him back | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i'm working with ubuntourist on that | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i'm also pushing zOnny to learn to budget | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking that we ask him to work full time in july and august | 10:57 |
| jelkner | when i can work 7 day weeks 12 hours a day | 10:57 |
| jelkner | and you and i can make our marketing push | 10:57 |
| jelkner | 1st, we need to skill up! | 10:57 |
| jelkner | we're not there yet | 10:58 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 10:58 |
| nrcerna | I know the struggle | 10:58 |
| nrcerna | well we know (meaning GFbot and I) | 10:59 |
| nrcerna | We believe that we are going to make it jelkner | 10:59 |
| jelkner | if we work hard enough and don't give up, we will | 10:59 |
| jelkner | the work is there | 10:59 |
| jelkner | lots of it | 10:59 |
| jelkner | but we need to get ourselves ready | 10:59 |
| lbolz : nrcerna : +jelkner : GFbot : hrodriguez : ubuntourist : Doisaac : @ChanServ : @mjsir911 : wolcen | 11:00 | |
| NOVALACIRO report and testing (nrcerna) | 11:00 | |
| Plans for this week (nrcerna) | 11:00 | |
| nrcerna | Good morning everyone! | 11:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning! | 11:00 |
| GFbot | hello! | 11:01 |
| lbolz | good morning! | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | Hi all. | 11:01 |
| hrodriguez | Good Morning everyone! | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | Before we start , two things: | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | is zOnny coming? | 11:01 |
| jelkner | i don't know, nrcerna | 11:01 |
| lbolz | i think he said he wouldn't be here | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | anyone knows? | 11:01 |
| nrcerna | Ok thanks lbolz | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | the second one: | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | we are glad to have Doisaac (AKA junior) here | 11:02 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:02 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 11:02 |
| nrcerna | :) | 11:03 |
| Doisaac | Good Morning everyone, Thank you is awesome to be here | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | Is great to see you Doisaac ;) | 11:03 |
| nrcerna | Well first item | 11:03 |
| Doisaac | Thank you nrcerna | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | rename learn channel from - to _ (jelkner) | 11:04 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, ubuntourist already did that | 11:04 |
| jelkner | thanks, ubuntourist! | 11:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:04 |
| nrcerna | Great! | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | And retroactively renamed all occurrences in log files. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | unix rocks! | 11:05 |
| nrcerna | thanks ubuntourist | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Later today (maybe) I hope to move it to the new site. | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we were discussing how we need another dev with unix chops | 11:05 |
| jelkner | keep that in mind, nrcerna | 11:05 |
| nrcerna | Ok :) | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | Next item: NOVALACIRO report and testing | 11:06 |
| nrcerna | (this is GFbot, hrodriguez and jelkner) | 11:06 |
| jelkner | yes, i'm hoping this is the work for today | 11:06 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez needs to be able to manage and engage members | 11:06 |
| jelkner | GFbot needs to make that work for her | 11:06 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:07 |
| GFbot | well, i've created the dev instance for test novalacario using libreorganize | 11:07 |
| GFbot | i had some issues migrating data | 11:07 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot can you teach me how to use It after the meeting | 11:07 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, yes. | 11:07 |
| GFbot | i can | 11:08 |
| GFbot | :) | 11:08 |
| hrodriguez | thanks GFbot | 11:08 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, jelkner this is how it looks for now | 11:08 |
| GFbot | http://45.79.45.71:27960/ | 11:08 |
| GFbot | is using nrcerna designs | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we aren't going to look now, GFbot | 11:08 |
| jelkner | that's an after meeting project | 11:08 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:08 |
| jelkner | till after the meeting | 11:09 |
| GFbot | cool | 11:09 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 11:09 |
| GFbot | also i was looking about making pdf files with django | 11:09 |
| GFbot | so, we can take users report with that | 11:10 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:10 |
| jelkner | We will need that big time | 11:10 |
| GFbot | libreorganize doesnt have that already but, we can create a simple that does it for us | 11:10 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, I had once looked at ReportLab to do that but it wasn't quite fancy enough to do what I wanted. | 11:10 |
| GFbot | ubuntourist, yes, i saw that too | 11:10 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, If you don't find a good Python library and ReportLab doesn't do the trick, there are alternatives I've used. | 11:11 |
| GFbot | ubuntourist, it would be good if you share them with me :) | 11:11 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | GFbot, but they require multiple steps. For example, outputing reStructured Text or MarkDown and then running it through something to produce a PDF output. | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done with that thought. | 11:12 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 11:12 |
| GFbot | there is a package that use html | 11:13 |
| GFbot | and css | 11:13 |
| GFbot | so i think i create a simple app for pdf report. | 11:13 |
| GFbot | i can create* | 11:14 |
| GFbot | ACTION done | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | Good GFbot ,thanks. | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | next item: Plans for this week | 11:14 |
| nrcerna | We started this before the meeting, right jelkner ? | 11:15 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i think NOVALACIRO needs to move forward | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that's goal number 1 | 11:15 |
| jelkner | start today | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and take it from there | 11:15 |
| jelkner | i've got user stories | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and hrodriguez is here to learn the system | 11:15 |
| jelkner | now we just need to make it work ;-) | 11:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:16 |
| nrcerna | and also we talked with you that what we are going about GFbot proposal to solve the bilingual issue | 11:16 |
| jelkner | not really, nrcerna | 11:16 |
| jelkner | we are going to "punt" the bilingual issue | 11:17 |
| jelkner | that's a US idiom | 11:17 |
| jelkner | from football | 11:17 |
| jelkner | it means kick it away | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we are going to keep a public facing website that is bilingual | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and an English only LibreOrganize site for hrodriguez to use to organize data | 11:17 |
| nrcerna | yes, that was I'm saying ;) | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | what* | 11:18 |
| jelkner | it's ok to do that with NOVALACIRO for now | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | yes | 11:18 |
| jelkner | since the members don't use the site for data | 11:18 |
| jelkner | yet | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | then we move to NEA | 11:18 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | ;) we're on the same page | 11:18 |
| nrcerna | that's good | 11:18 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez and jelkner can collaborate | 11:18 |
| jelkner | on learning to use the system | 11:19 |
| jelkner | since they have similar needs | 11:19 |
| jelkner | see lists of members | 11:19 |
| jelkner | expiration / renewal dates for memberships | 11:19 |
| jelkner | update contact info | 11:19 |
| jelkner | etc. | 11:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:19 |
| nrcerna | One question, are we going just migrate NEA? or redesign it too? | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | meaning on the website | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | I just want to have that in minfs | 11:20 |
| jelkner | we should redesign it, don't you think, nrcerna? | 11:20 |
| nrcerna | mind* | 11:20 |
| jelkner | since it doesn't need to be bilingual | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | Sure :) | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we can have a single LibreOrganize site for it | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:21 |
| GFbot | jelkner, well you need see novalaciro redesign | 11:22 |
| GFbot | first | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | That's what we talked with GFbot, we need a LO theme for each | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | website | 11:22 |
| jelkner | let's talk after | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | GFbot +1 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | we are getting into the weeds | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Are we done whit this item? so we can move forward to end the meeting and test NOVALACIRO | 11:23 |
| jelkner | Yes! | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION raises his hand. | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | Brief update: | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | Ok thanks for being here everyone! | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | see you all next week! | 11:24 |
| ubuntourist | Gallaudet. | 11:24 |
| nrcerna | Oh sorry, continue ubuntourist | 11:24 |
| ubuntourist | I've set the old ARA site to forward to the new ARA site via the use of http meta redirects. Not ideal, but I think it works. | 11:25 |
| ubuntourist | I may need to make it a bit more informative, but my brief tests seemed to do the right thing. | 11:26 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 11:26 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, can you and i chat after the meeting? | 11:26 |
| nrcerna | yes jelkner | 11:26 |
| jelkner | thanks | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | thanks for the report ubuntourist | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | so see you all next week, thanks! | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | (you too Doisaac ) | 11:27 |
| jelkner | don't forget the bag of gravel, nrcerna | 11:27 |
| nrcerna | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:28 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:28 |
| nrcerna | jajaja | 11:28 |
| nrcerna | I was tyoing it | 11:28 |
| nrcerna | typing* | 11:28 |
| Doisaac | :) thank you nrcerna. | 11:28 |
| nrcerna | ;) | 11:28 |
| ubuntourist | Farewell, all. | 11:28 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot, Podemos comenzar | 11:29 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, can we hangout? | 11:29 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot, sure | 11:29 |
| Doisaac | bye, have a good day everyone | 11:29 |
| GFbot | Doisaac, see you! | 11:29 |
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| ubuntourist | hrodriguez, jelkner visit http://colloquy.info/ and download and install... | 11:31 |
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| hrodriguez | testing… | 11:49 |
| ubuntourist | Testing... | 11:50 |
| GFbot | hello | 11:50 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot: hi | 11:50 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot: should we start | 11:52 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, hi | 11:53 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, go to http://45.79.45.71:27960/ | 11:53 |
| hrodriguez | I am on it GFbot | 11:54 |
| GFbot | log in to the site as admin | 11:54 |
| GFbot | http://45.79.45.71:27960/login | 11:54 |
| hrodriguez | what should type for the Username and password | 11:55 |
| GFbot | username: admin and password: admin | 11:56 |
| hrodriguez | got it | 11:56 |
| GFbot | well that should see is the Profile user | 11:57 |
| GFbot | do you want to hangout | 11:57 |
| GFbot | ? | 11:57 |
| hrodriguez | okay that’s fine | 11:57 |
| GFbot | https://novawebdevelopment.com/hangout | 11:59 |
| hrodriguez | GFbot: the link you sent me doesn’t work but I’m in hangout | 12:03 |
| GFbot | hrodriguez, calling! | 12:07 |
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