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| ubuntourist | !remind | 06:20 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind Linode: ~$150 per month ~= $1800 per year. Are all sites still in active use? | 06:22 |
| "Linode: ~$150 per month ~= $1800 per year. Are all sites still in active use?" added to message queue | 06:22 | |
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| ubuntourist | Hmmm... All quiet on the Eastern Front.... | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | !remind | 11:01 |
| jelkner | GM, ubuntourist | 11:01 |
| jelkner | my apologies | 11:01 |
| jelkner | nrcerna is ill | 11:02 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns | 11:02 |
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| jelkner | and everyone else is here | 11:02 |
| SITarabuta : @ubuntourist : GFbot : lbolz : zOnny : +jelkner : @ChanServ : @mjsir911 : wolcen | 11:02 | |
| Linode: ~$150 per month ~= $1800 per year. Are all sites still in active use? (ubuntourist) | 11:02 | |
| ubuntourist | Everyone? | 11:02 |
| SITarabuta | just in time | 11:02 |
| jelkner | lbolz, SITarabuta, and zOnny | 11:02 |
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| jelkner | let's make this quick | 11:02 |
| ubuntourist | Hullo all. | 11:02 |
| jelkner | nrcerna is ill | 11:03 |
| GFbot | Hello there! | 11:03 |
| jelkner | she emailed me this morning | 11:03 |
| jelkner | GFbot, great, you're here! | 11:03 |
| jelkner | you know your cousin is not feeling well, GFbot | 11:03 |
| jelkner | she won't be here | 11:03 |
| GFbot | yes sir. | 11:03 |
| jelkner | so let's dive in | 11:03 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, tell us in 3 minutes about Zoho | 11:03 |
| jelkner | should we switch now, or wait | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner, i think we are moving too fast. i can hear the keyboard from over here | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | yes, i think we should | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | they can also do docs and other stuff | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | and as we all know | 11:04 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | you are an advocate of getting off Google | 11:04 |
| jelkner | that task would fall on nrcnerna and me | 11:04 |
| SITarabuta | it is an easy switch | 11:05 |
| jelkner | so why don't we task nrcerna and jelkner with investigating a switch | 11:05 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:05 |
| SITarabuta | just change 2 dns addresses | 11:05 |
| jelkner | we'll look into that this week | 11:05 |
| jelkner | and report to y'all next sunday | 11:05 |
| jelkner | GFbot, ubuntourist, are you on top of what SITarabuta did with email? | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | Nope. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | we need to make sure we have some redundancy | 11:06 |
| GFbot | nop | 11:06 |
| jelkner | drats | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | Hold on hold | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | on | 11:06 |
| jelkner | would you two be willing to do that? | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | I moved everything to namecheap from tierra.net | 11:06 |
| SITarabuta | that is about it | 11:06 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta is driving us toward success | 11:06 |
| jelkner | the least we can do it to try to keep up with him! ;-) | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | Since our e-mail is webfaction and google, I'm missing the connection... | 11:07 |
| GFbot | do we still using webfaction at this point :D? | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | yes. | 11:08 |
| ubuntourist | (And we're also on Linode.) | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | zoho would be our savior | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | for hosting | 11:08 |
| GFbot | SITarabuta 1+ | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | the DNS | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | was just moved | 11:08 |
| SITarabuta | from tierra.net to namecheap | 11:09 |
| SITarabuta | and everything else | 11:09 |
| SITarabuta | but the actual hosting is still webfaction | 11:09 |
| SITarabuta | that is about it really | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, So. Yes: I'm aware of what SITarabuta has done with email. Nada. He's done lots of other stuff of importance | 11:09 |
| ubuntourist | ;-) | 11:10 |
| jelkner | touche, ubuntourist | 11:10 |
| jelkner | weekends are the only time i can keep up with all this | 11:10 |
| jelkner | we are discussing alternatives | 11:11 |
| jelkner | let's do that after the meeting | 11:11 |
| jelkner | next item | 11:11 |
| jelkner | with zOnny and SITarabuta both here | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we can have a conversation about choices | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and make one | 11:12 |
| jelkner | after the meeting | 11:12 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I'll probably want credentials to tierra.net if I'm going to go poking around with switching e-mails. | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we are off tierranet | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | completely | 11:12 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, no longer needed | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | i used jelkner credentials | 11:12 |
| SITarabuta | to take verything off | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | Oops. Sorry. I mean namecheap. | 11:13 |
| jelkner | yes | 11:13 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you create your own account on namecheap | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and we give you privileges | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | so i have my own account, but the rest of NWD shared one account | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | but that is bad | 11:13 |
| jelkner | that's why we like it so much | 11:13 |
| SITarabuta | so really we need an account per user | 11:13 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, got us on that for that reason | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | I have a namecheap account. | 11:13 |
| ubuntourist | What I'm asking about: Does namecheap offer mailboxes? Do we do the same kind of aliasing of @novawebdevelopment.org | 11:15 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist: I gave it to you already | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | no no ubuntourist | 11:15 |
| ubuntourist | to Zoho | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist, is just DNS | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | and domain purchasing | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | and configuring a domain | 11:15 |
| SITarabuta | to ring to an ip or server | 11:15 |
| ubuntourist | So. getting @novawebdevelopment.org addresses to use Zoho... is done how / where? | 11:16 |
| SITarabuta | we didn't yet | 11:16 |
| SITarabuta | we are thinking about it | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can we discuss this after the meeting? | 11:17 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is ... done? for now then... | 11:17 |
| jelkner | next item | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we need to move our own website to LOv0.2 | 11:17 |
| jelkner | that is top priority | 11:17 |
| jelkner | since we can't move forward with an agile process without doing that | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we have a minimal viable product | 11:17 |
| jelkner | we need to start using it | 11:18 |
| SITarabuta | that is in the works on the backend side: i began setting up automation and continous integration on GitLab | 11:18 |
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| SITarabuta | so nobody should just manually git pull and deploy | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist's user story is the one that drove development | 11:18 |
| SITarabuta | we should do that automatically | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we have events | 11:18 |
| jelkner | and a calendar | 11:18 |
| jelkner | so let's get that started today | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, if you could help with Zoho, that would be awesome | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to you about that | 11:18 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, now they are saying bluehost is better | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can you and i talk after? | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | OK. | 11:20 |
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| jelkner | last item is ubuntourist | 11:20 |
| jelkner | yes, we are wasting money | 11:20 |
| GFbot | a lot | 11:21 |
| jelkner | the main problem is we aren't billing | 11:21 |
| jelkner | zOnny gave me a horror story this morning | 11:21 |
| SITarabuta | and we need to move multiples sites on the same machine | 11:21 |
| SITarabuta | *pretty please*? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we have a customer who is upset with us *for not billing*!!!!!! | 11:21 |
| jelkner | they keep good books | 11:21 |
| SITarabuta | and we don't | 11:21 |
| jelkner | their books say they should be expecting an invoice | 11:22 |
| SITarabuta | and our inexistent books don't say that | 11:22 |
| jelkner | they can't balance their books until they pay | 11:22 |
| jelkner | they cant' pay until we bill | 11:22 |
| SITarabuta | we are balanced because we have no books | 11:22 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I see Mr. Flint still has a virtual box, among other questionable boxes on Linode. | 11:22 |
| GFbot | jelkner should talk with nrcerna about that? | 11:22 |
| jelkner | GFbot, i talk to her every day | 11:22 |
| jelkner | it is hard for her | 11:23 |
| jelkner | this isn't her forte | 11:23 |
| GFbot | i know | 11:23 |
| jelkner | but she's the only one who can do it right now | 11:23 |
| SITarabuta | really ubuntourist | 11:23 |
| SITarabuta | I didn't know which ones those were | 11:23 |
| jelkner | ok, anything else before we get down to work? | 11:23 |
| SITarabuta | One thing | 11:23 |
| SITarabuta | before we move to multiples sites per machine | 11:24 |
| SITarabuta | we could at least downgrade from 2GB boxes to Nanodes 1GB | 11:24 |
| SITarabuta | because the websites | 11:24 |
| SITarabuta | don't have much traffic | 11:24 |
| SITarabuta | it is half the price | 11:24 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 11:24 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:25 |
| GFbot | jelkner yes, I plan to work with Alan every meeting on ToDo++. the next meeting that we are going to have he will able to see my work and help me to get that done. | 11:25 |
| jelkner | excellent, GFbot | 11:25 |
| GFbot | SITarabuta we started using 2GB services | 11:25 |
| GFbot | because, we used to use tendenci | 11:25 |
| SITarabuta | i see | 11:26 |
| GFbot | but, our current LO will be able to run there | 11:26 |
| GFbot | 1gb enough | 11:26 |
| GFbot | I agree with you SITarabuta | 11:27 |
| GFbot | ACTION is done | 11:29 |
| GFbot | jelkner we are done? | 11:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:31 |
| jelkner | yes, GFbot we're done | 11:31 |
| jelkner | sorry | 11:31 |
| jelkner | we were in a discussion about which servers we could drop | 11:32 |
| jelkner | while we have access to zOnny | 11:32 |
| jelkner | we should clean up some of those | 11:32 |
| jelkner | as ubuntourist points out, $150 per month is a lot | 11:32 |
| GFbot | jelkner sounds good | 11:32 |
| jelkner | especially when we don't bill! | 11:32 |
| GFbot | jelkner i agree with SITarabuta | 11:32 |
| ubuntourist | Some may have been temporary experiments that are already gone: I note two with "mail" in the name, which I assume were | 11:33 |
| GFbot | there's a site using 4GB ram 20$ each month | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | attempts to run our own mailserver last month. | 11:33 |
| ubuntourist | (Those two chewed through some CPU hours, unlike the other sites.) | 11:34 |
| GFbot | jelkner can we call tomorrow? | 11:37 |
| GFbot | i'll be early tomorrow | 11:37 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, zOnny and stefan are suggesting bluehost for email | 11:39 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, So. NOT Zoho. | 11:39 |
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| ubuntourist | I'm sleep deprived, but I thought less than 30 minutes ago, Zoho was the go-to. | 11:41 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i'm feeling zoho too | 11:41 |
| jelkner | but it is more expensive | 11:41 |
| GFbot | ACTION waiting for jelkner | 11:41 |
| jelkner | i wonder if we can reach out to them to get a "desperate open source startup special price" | 11:42 |
| jelkner | GFbot, shoot | 11:42 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, go to sleep | 11:42 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm not making a case for one or the other. I'm just trying to keep up. | 11:42 |
| GFbot | jelkner we can call tomorrow? | 11:42 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i don't know | 11:42 |
| jelkner | i look at bluehost and see office-365 | 11:42 |
| jelkner | that doesn't help | 11:42 |
| jelkner | we need shared documents | 11:43 |
| ubuntourist | Bleah! Yucky! | 11:43 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION doesn't know what evil Zoho might use under the hood, though... | 11:43 |
| jelkner | so, can you and i spend saturday, march 14 figuring that out? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | GFbot, yes | 11:44 |
| jelkner | can you be at nrcerna's at 9:35 am | 11:44 |
| jelkner | ? | 11:44 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION goes to check calendar (with the hope that it's up to date)... | 11:44 |
| jelkner | i told her this morning i would call tomorrow | 11:44 |
| jelkner | GFbot, please go there so we can talk | 11:44 |
| GFbot | good | 11:44 |
| GFbot | jelkner yes | 11:44 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, calendar looks open until evening that day. So, yeah. | 11:45 |
| jelkner | excellent, ubuntourist | 11:45 |
| jelkner | i put it on my calendar too | 11:45 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to work on our tax filing | 11:46 |
| jelkner | see y'all next sunday | 11:46 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, W2 for me? | 11:46 |
| jelkner | W2 for you is coming from Diego | 11:46 |
| jelkner | heylin and i have a meeting with him between 4 and 6 pm | 11:47 |
| jelkner | that will be the last one | 11:47 |
| jelkner | nova web llc doesn't do w2 | 11:47 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, ok. I await word. (And I might not make any NWD money this year anyway. But last year, yes.) | 11:48 |
| jelkner | so only payments you received before august will be on the w2 | 11:48 |
| jelkner | let's hope that isn't true, ubuntourist | 11:48 |
| jelkner | since we need Gallaudet as a customer! | 11:48 |
| jelkner | we can talk more about that on 3/14 also | 11:49 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:49 |
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