IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2020-07-05

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jelknerGood morning, SLewis!14:53
SLewisGood morning!14:54
jelknerSLewis, did you get a chance to look at GASP?14:54
SLewisum14:55
SLewisi dont think so14:55
jelknerSLewis, did you see my email about it?14:59
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SLewisi guess not15:06
SLewisill take a look right now15:06
inana_16!remind15:06
jelkner!remind15:07
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ubuntourist(BRB)15:51
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zOnnyPAldea https://codeberg.org/ubuntourist/paculator15:54
ubuntourist(back)15:56
ubuntouristACTION plays catch up...15:57
ubuntouristPAldea, I see zOnny has pointed you at the Pac-u-lator.15:57
ubuntouristPAldea, If available after the meeting and you have questions, we can chat. (Or e-mail.)15:58
inana_16Good Morning everyone!15:59
PAldea : zOnny : @ubuntourist : inana_16 : SLewis : +jelkner : wolcen : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ16:00
Integrating Louie into our workflow (jelkner)16:00
MayFirst Nextcloud and our bylaw revision (jelkner)16:00
discuss IRS taxes (zOnny)16:00
inana_16 Good Morning everyone!16:00
jelknerGM, inana_16!16:00
ubuntouristACTION doffs his cap...16:01
inana_16Well the first item, yo mentioned jelkner that zOnny is already doing it, but you want to add anything else?16:01
inana_16 Can we agree to adopt Black (https://pypi.org/project/black/) to set our source code styling? (jelkner)16:01
jelknerStefan, who can't be here today16:01
inana_16+116:01
jelkneremailed us that he has been pushing for this for 5 months!16:01
ubuntouristI tried it two years ago after seeing it at PyCon.16:01
ubuntourist(I believe I recommended it then as well.)16:02
jelknercool16:02
jelknerlet's just do it, then16:02
jelknerthe only new thing is getting me to use it with the PRIMEs16:02
jelknerseems like i'm behind the curve (as usual)16:02
jelknerACTION done16:02
inana_16thanks jelkner 16:02
ubuntouristBut, it is a bit overly anal for my tastes. Still, it seems to be the current fad. So, I'll +1 it.16:03
ubuntouristACTION is done16:03
inana_16Alright16:03
jelknerubuntourist, the author makes a strong argument as to why you have to be opinionated in order to automate16:03
jelknerand given our very mixed level of skills and experience16:03
jelknerbetter to error on the side of too anal, than not anal enough ;-)16:04
jelknerACTION done again16:04
inana_16Next item: Setting up Natalia to host BBB meeting with Meghan on Monday (jelkner) This is already done jelkner , thanks for that16:04
jelknerwe did this before the meeting16:04
inana_16yes16:04
jelknerinana_16 should confirm it works16:04
jelknerACTION done16:05
inana_16so, next one:16:05
inana_16Possible synergy between CIDU and Platform Coops Now course (jelkner)16:05
jelknercool, this will be brief too, but just FYI16:05
inana_16ACTION Curious about it16:05
jelkneri'm in a small group tasked with developing a "minimal viable platform" as our group project for the 2nd part of the course16:06
jelknerwe started talking about driving platforms16:06
jelknerand looked at LibreTaxi16:06
jelknerwhich may have some interest to our Colorado drivers16:06
jelknerits early, but a cool possibility16:07
jelknerLibreTaxi seems to be a bit of Go code that rides on top of Telegram16:07
jelknerallowing folks wanting rides to connect with those wanting to provide them16:07
ubuntouristBTW, who's on Telegram? (I am, but rarely use.)16:07
jelknerit doesn't handle any financial exchange at this point16:07
jelknerubuntourist, i am now16:08
jelknersince last night16:08
jelknerbecause of LibreTaxi16:08
jelknermore later16:08
jelknerACTION done16:08
ubuntouristjelkner, later we can exchange contact / credentials.16:08
ubuntouristACTION is done16:08
jelknersure, ubuntourist 16:08
jelknerafter the meeting16:08
inana_16Thanks jelkner 16:08
inana_16next item: Integrating Louie into our workflow (jelkner)16:09
ubuntouristI thought I saw his name on IRC when I started this morning a few minutes before 12, but now I don't see him.16:09
jelknerUpdate: Sunday, July 19th (Liberation Day in Nicaragua ;-) will be Louie's first official day back with us16:09
jelknerhe gave 2 week notice16:10
jelknerbut he works the next 2 sundays, ubuntourist 16:10
jelkneri put it on the agenda because he asked me about how to begin working with the group even during those 2 weeks16:10
jelkneri told him he should reach out to ubuntourist zOnny and inana_16 16:10
ubuntouristjelkner, I mean, I got a notice that _louiselkneralfaro_ (or something similar) was currently logged in to IRC.16:11
jelkneri don't see him here now16:11
jelkneranyway16:11
jelknerplease be on the lookout for communication from him16:11
inana_16+116:12
jelkneri'm suggesting ubuntourist zOnny and he start looking at a postgresql study group16:12
jelknerbut whatever you all figure out...16:12
jelknerACTION done16:12
inana_16Ok, next item16:13
inana_16MayFirst Nextcloud and our bylaw revision (jelkner)16:13
jelknerthis is a continuation of our previous discussion16:13
inana_16yes16:13
jelknerinana_16, jelkner, stefan, and louie are the group that has agreed to take on by-law revision / update16:14
jelknerwe need a work flow16:14
jelknerzOnny suggested wiki16:14
zOnnyjelkner -.-16:14
jelknerwhich i liked, but it really doesn't support what we need16:14
jelknersince the by-laws are a document we will be showing to the world16:14
jelknerand they need to look good16:14
jelknerso Nextcloud is the logical choice16:14
jelkneri have the document on my personal May First Nextcloud16:15
jelknernow I need to learn how to share it with inana_16 stefan and louie (and the rest of the gang)16:15
jelknerACTION done16:15
zOnnyhow about the public dir?16:15
jelknerzOnny, that will be the place where the PDF goes16:16
ubuntouristWhat does NextCloud use as its format? (Or what are you using?)16:16
jelknerbut i don't know how a shared edit workflow would work there16:16
jelknerubuntourist, odt16:16
jelkneredited with LibreOffice16:16
jelknerinana_16, let's move on16:17
inana_16Okay16:17
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inana_16next item: discuss IRS taxes (zOnny)16:18
zOnnyzOnny ?16:18
inana_16We talke whith jelkner that we need everyone's information in order to do this16:18
inana_16right?16:18
jelkneryes16:19
inana_16so, I think the best way to do it is on BT16:19
jelkner+116:19
jelknermy son is a tax accountant16:19
inana_16in account information, it would be a good place 16:19
zOnnyso, the question will be16:19
jelkneri asked him to do our taxes for us16:19
jelknerhe said sure16:19
zOnnyAre we going to have W2 2019?16:19
jelknerand then said, give me the information16:19
jelknerand i said, ?????16:19
inana_16mmmm16:19
jelknerand he said, sorry, i can't do taxes with ?????16:20
inana_16jelkner, read zOnny's question16:20
jelknerwe didn't do much business in 201916:20
jelknerso i'm thinking we don't really have anything to file16:20
zOnnyjelkner Federal CU can help with that16:20
jelknerand could start trying to get this going now in 202016:20
jelknerbut i wanted to confirm that16:21
jelknersince the filing day is approaching16:21
jelknerand y'all need to know what to do16:21
jelknerACTION done16:22
jelknerunless i hear an objection16:22
jelkneri'm going to start with 202016:22
jelknerand work to get you all the info you need to file for quarter 1 of 202016:22
inana_16+116:22
inana_16Anything else to add?16:23
ubuntouristSo, quick report: zOnny now has both the "Pac-U-lator" (TM) and "Sound Advice" (TM) running on his system -- as do I.16:23
ubuntouristI'm understanding that PAldea is coming on-board with that, right?16:23
jelknerubuntourist, we started talking with PAldea before this meeting16:24
jelknerto see if he would like to work on this16:24
jelknerso getting him setup is a needed step for that16:24
zOnnyubuntourist good point, I was trying to help PAldea on it, but he has Windows and virtual machine without GUI16:24
PAldea+116:24
ubuntourist(So, I take it that's a tentative "yes" to the onboarding. ;-) )16:24
PAldeaI would be interested as long as the GUI issue can be resolved in some way16:25
ubuntouristPAldea, Ouch. I talked with Gallaudet about making a Windows version as well, but they weren't interested, and I wasn't enthusiastic.16:25
zOnnyubuntourist -116:26
PAldea:/16:26
ubuntouristPAldea, (I wrote it on Linux for deployment on a Mac OS X box.)16:26
PAldeaI can try to run it on my mac, but as I said without administrator, I could be facing issues16:26
ubuntouristPAldea, but theoretically, it can be jiggered to work on Windows too.16:26
ubuntouristI just never pursued. We can discuss later.16:26
PAldeaAlright16:26
ubuntouristACTION is done with that for the moment...16:27
inana_16Great16:27
inana_16zOnny, can we meet to talk about CIDU's Issues and be ready for tomorrows meeting?16:27
inana_16it would be brief16:27
zOnny@i16:28
zOnnyinana_16 k16:28
inana_16Ok thanks16:28
jelknersince Stefan isn't here to watch the clock16:28
jelkner2 minutes, inana_16 16:28
inana_16ACTION Drops the bag of gravel16:28
jelknernice!16:28
jelknerthanks16:28
inana_16Thanks everyone16:28
jelknerubuntourist, can we talk on hangout?16:29
zOnnyhappy 4th of july! 16:29
inana_16+116:29
jelknerabout Telegram?16:29
ubuntouristjelkner, in a minute or two... Join you there shortly.16:29
zOnnyOops nvm we are July 5, already16:29
jelknerLoL16:30
inana_16https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning zOnny 16:30
jelknerubuntourist, telegram? hangout? yes? no?16:31
jelknerzOnny, please sign in the meeting today16:31
jelknersoon you will be studing sql16:31
jelknerand learning how to query our database16:31
ubuntouristI quote myself "In a minute or two... Join you there shortly" in answer to the question "Can we talk on Hangout about Telegram"16:32
jelknerit will be helpful to have good data to work with16:32
jelknercool, ubuntourist 16:32
inana_16I'm there zOnny 16:32
inana_16jelkner, I just sent the email to the Django girls18:49
inana_16:)18:49
jelknerthanks, inana_16 18:49
inana_16and Meghan18:49
inana_16:)18:50
jelknerinana_16, i'm going to log off to focus on studying18:51
jelkneri'll be on *early* tomorrow18:52
jelknerhasta tomorrow, inana_16 18:52
jelknerACTION logs off for the day18:52
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