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| ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm having a dark and surly morning. Can't stay awake, can't sleep. | 11:21 |
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| ubuntourist | jelkner, You have a Mac around the house, right? Since ACPS is all Mac-happy... | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION wanders away for a an hour or two... (maybe less) | 11:40 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i do have a mac | 13:08 |
| jelkner | it is my school issued computer | 13:08 |
| jelkner | how can i put it to use for you, ubuntourist? | 13:09 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION returns, still dark, still surly... | 13:38 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Just wondering if you would be so kind as to do a quick test. See e-mail to Caleb. Two pip installs, and a few lines of code. And a WAV file. | 13:40 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Trying to determine if his sound issue is a ubiquitous Mac problem or something fixable. | 13:42 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, (I used a small WAV file I had on my system. The other possible source of trouble -- though I doubt it -- is a wonky WAV file on Caleb's system.) | 13:43 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, why not try that first | 13:44 |
| jelkner | i was about to ask you where to get toolvox.wav? | 13:44 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, He says that for him, playing the sound once is okay. Asking it to repeat, the sound degrades with each trip through the loop. | 13:45 |
| jelkner | seems if we want to debug audio, we should standardize the file we are playing | 13:45 |
| jelkner | why does caleb need audio? | 13:45 |
| ubuntourist | Because GASP has a Sound(). | 13:45 |
| jelkner | ahh | 13:47 |
| jelkner | i haven't ever used that | 13:47 |
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| jelkner | i'm installing pipenv with brew | 13:48 |
| jelkner | so i can isolate the environment | 13:48 |
| inana_16 | GM jelkner | 13:48 |
| jelkner | GM inana_16 | 13:49 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i'm on planning | 13:49 |
| inana_16 | sure | 13:49 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Yeah, I figured you'd do a virtual environment. (I did pipenv myself, but didn't want to necessarily get into that w/ Caleb. So, the "--user" seemed good 'nuf.) | 13:49 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I sent the toolvox.wav to you both -- though I find it highly unlikely that it's the source of trouble. (Maybe there's a size limit and he was using a honkin' big WAV file, but other than that...) | 13:50 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i need to take care of payroll today, so i'll dedicate 30 more minutes to this and then ask Caleb to work on something else instead | 13:58 |
| jelkner | i get an ffmpeg warning when i try to import * from pydub | 13:59 |
| jelkner | proceeding ignoring the warning | 13:59 |
| jelkner | it all worked for me | 14:02 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, the documentation suggests if you're using MP3s you need additional steps involving ffmpeg (which I mentioned in my 1st message). Hence the choice of a .WAV file which shouldn't need ffmpeg. Or so the theory goes. | 14:02 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, good news then. Thanks for playing. ;-) | 14:02 |
| jelkner | toolbox from voxware toolbox from voxware | 14:02 |
| jelkner | gently fading away | 14:02 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i'm ready | 14:04 |
| jelkner | can we meet back on planning, inana_16? | 14:04 |
| inana_16 | yes | 14:04 |
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| jelkner | ubuntourist, Stefan-Inout is demoing a free software Java tool for GPG signing a document. | 15:25 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i figured you would want to see that, so he will be pasting the link here shortly | 15:25 |
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| SITarabuta | Hello hello | 15:25 |
| ubuntourist | Java? Gag me with a spoon. ;-) | 15:26 |
| SITarabuta | JSignPDF is an open source PDF signing tool: https://sourceforge.net/projects/jsignpdf/files/stable/JSignPdf%201.6.4/JSignPdf-1.6.4.zip/download | 15:26 |
| SITarabuta | It is Java so it gives me dizziness and slight depression | 15:26 |
| ubuntourist | I thought GPG was a free software tool for signing documents. ;-) | 15:26 |
| jelkner | Common now, ubuntourist, it's free software *and* it's portable | 15:26 |
| SITarabuta | Might consult a therapist, but it WORKS | 15:26 |
| ubuntourist | "$ gpg --sign document.doc" ;-) | 15:28 |
| SITarabuta | Yeah, but it won't mess with the PDF metadata and add ourselves there | 15:29 |
| SITarabuta | it is just doing signing | 15:29 |
| ubuntourist | Plus that, doesn't PDF have a signature feature of its own that is already built into LibreOffice? | 15:30 |
| ubuntourist | "gpg --detached-sign document.pdf" creates a... wait for it... detatched signature, which doesn't mess with the original file... | 15:31 |
| ubuntourist | I think I must be missing the point here.... | 15:35 |
| SITarabuta | Hmmm | 15:39 |
| SITarabuta | I am not exactly 100% sure how it works, but I do know that LibreOffice only offers PDF signing and GPG only generic signing. We need both. We could use them separately, but is a JAR file that evil ;) | 15:40 |
| ubuntourist | It's on SourceForge, which doesn't have the greatest reputation -- though that may have changed. I found https://github.com/kwart/jsignpdf | 15:42 |
| ubuntourist | But Python has GPG packages too... Never looked to see if Django does. | 15:43 |
| ubuntourist | It's sort of like jelkner and IRC: I'm not quite seeing the need for a tool that obfuscates another tool. | 15:44 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can you and SITarabuta work this out? | 15:45 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, can you sign a PDF and send it to me? Maybe seeing would give me a clue as to what's different about this. | 15:45 |
| jelkner | i was saying that the test for me would be, can ubuntourist get inana_16 to sign the document the way we want? | 15:46 |
| jelkner | if the answer is "yes", then it works. | 15:46 |
| jelkner | the idea that "signings" will contain meta data about when, where, and why is also a big plus | 15:46 |
| jelkner | the idea i guess of any "signing" is a verifiable affirmation | 15:47 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is skimming http://jsignpdf.sourceforge.net/ to see what the fuss is about. | 15:48 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, can you please join me back on planning? | 15:51 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Watch the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdg-w51wlaY and tell me if you think that's "simple". | 15:53 |
| ubuntourist | Meanwhile, for a short video explaining how to write a simple Python program that creates and verifies OpenSSL (RSA) signatures... | 16:04 |
| ubuntourist | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2pj0yDhDp4 | 16:04 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can you please join us on planning? | 17:38 |
| jelkner | we are talking about National Hospital, which is becoming a huge problem | 17:39 |
| ubuntourist | Nope, busy with Gallaudet stuff. | 17:39 |
| jelkner | ok, but i need to email rick and request that *all* communication from here on come through you and me | 17:40 |
| jelkner | so before i send that email | 17:40 |
| jelkner | i'd like to talk with you | 17:40 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, later | 17:40 |
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| GFbot | jelkner hello | 18:33 |
| GFbot | are you there? | 18:33 |
| jelkner | I can't talk now, GFbot | 18:35 |
| jelkner | let's talk tomorrow morning | 18:35 |
| GFbot | ok | 18:35 |
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| ubuntourist | jelkner, I had to crash. I'm awake once more... | 20:32 |
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| ubuntourist | ACTION is now busy with an electronics printed circuit board (PCB) design class... | 20:59 |
| jelkner | inana_16, ping | 21:48 |
| inana_16 | pong | 21:48 |
| jelkner | inana_16, can you please encourage zOnny to attend Show and Tell tomorrow? | 21:49 |
| jelkner | I'm taking Roxana to the airport at that time, so I can't | 21:49 |
| jelkner | besides, it's about Drupal, so I really don't have the time | 21:49 |
| inana_16 | I see, Ok i'll tell him | 21:50 |
| jelkner | but if zOnny is thinking of working with Drupal, he should attend | 21:50 |
| jelkner | thnx, inana_16! | 21:50 |
| inana_16 | ;) | 21:50 |
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| jelkner | zOnny, can you attend Show and Tell tomorrow? | 21:58 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i just called Joselyn and left a message | 21:59 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i'm not going to try to handle it now, but please keep in mind as we move forward | 21:59 |
| jelkner | that we need a system for logging partner communications | 21:59 |
| zOnny | jelkner k | 21:59 |
| jelkner | when i called Joselyn, it should be entered in a log | 21:59 |
| jelkner | That's really what a CMS (as in Customer Relations Management) system does | 22:00 |
| zOnny | @jelkner ok | 22:00 |
| jelkner | i can hear sitarabuta complaining already | 22:00 |
| jelkner | but over time, and with careful thought, we might want business tracker to hold that info | 22:01 |
| jelkner | one step at a time | 22:01 |
| jelkner | but once we have lots of partners and regular contacts, we need to log them | 22:01 |
| jelkner | inana_16, make sense? | 22:01 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i just made you manager on a bunch of our domains | 22:02 |
| jelkner | zOnny, and removed replaceafill and mjsir911 | 22:02 |
| inana_16 | yay! | 22:03 |
| zOnny | jelkner are u crazy? | 22:03 |
| jelkner | yes, zOnny, why do you ask? | 22:03 |
| inana_16 | Congrats zOnny! | 22:03 |
| jelkner | inana_16, since we don't have any system yet, let's try to remind each other to follow up again with Joselyn in a few weeks | 22:04 |
| jelkner | if we don't hear from her | 22:04 |
| jelkner | i left a message | 22:04 |
| inana_16 | sure | 22:05 |
| jelkner | (a looong one :-( | 22:05 |
| jelkner | so i think she will call back | 22:05 |
| inana_16 | k | 22:05 |
| zOnny | jelkner Did u grant the domains to the right username? because I didn't get the confirmation | 22:10 |
| jelkner | equinteros | 22:10 |
| jelkner | you should have received invites | 22:10 |
| zOnny | @jelkner They must be on the way then | 22:14 |
| jelkner | inana_16, zOnny email sent to rick | 23:12 |
| inana_16 | Yeah I just read it | 23:13 |
| inana_16 | zOnny and GFbot are working on the Claudia Jones | 23:13 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the night | 23:36 |
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