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| inana_16 | !remind | 14:35 |
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| inana_16 | !remind Talk about pricing with Louie | 14:37 |
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| inana_16 | !remind Check in financial stuff with Jeff | 14:40 |
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| inana_16 | GM lelkneralfaro | 14:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | GM inana_16 | 14:47 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, sorry I stepped away to make my bed | 14:48 |
| inana_16 | No problem :) | 14:48 |
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| lelkneralfaro | hi inana_16 would it be possible to meet before our meeting today? | 15:00 |
| inana_16 | Sure, I'm on planning | 15:01 |
| inana_16 | lelkneralfaro | 15:01 |
| inana_16 | Oh, sorry Is hangout | 15:03 |
| inana_16 | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/hangout lelkneralfaro | 15:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | okay I'll join you | 15:03 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 15:19 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 15:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, cambiamos a un chat solo para vos y yo? si queres seguir platicando? | 15:40 |
| inana_16 | Está bien, solo voy a pegar las apps ahorita | 15:40 |
| inana_16 | lelkneralfaro, creo que debemos quedarnos en hangout | 15:40 |
| lelkneralfaro | okay +1 | 15:40 |
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| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vhgM3kujoKbk7TkW8uv4-PZzZjEVJmep00O75S2nCs0/edit | 15:47 |
| jelkner | GFbot, can you please join inana_16 and lelkneralfaro on hangout? | 15:51 |
| jelkner | they are discussing the price list | 15:51 |
| jelkner | and could use your help | 15:51 |
| GFbot | planning? | 15:51 |
| jelkner | no, hangnout | 15:51 |
| inana_16 | !remind | 15:55 |
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| SITarabuta | Oh yes, just on time | 15:59 |
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| SITarabuta | !remind Meetings - argh | 15:59 |
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| jelkner | indeed, SITarabuta | 15:59 |
| PAldea : SITarabuta : GFbot : +jelkner : abuchholz : lelkneralfaro : inana_16 : @ChanServ : wolcen : @mjsir911 | 16:00 | |
| inana_16 | sweet SITarabuta | 16:00 |
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| inana_16 | Hello everyone! | 16:00 |
| jelkner | gm | 16:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | hello | 16:00 |
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| SITarabuta | Goooo' Mornin' fellas | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | lol | 16:00 |
| inana_16 | ;) | 16:00 |
| ubuntourist | Losing track... Thank technology for alarm pop-ups. | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | I am trying to spice it up a bit | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | Alright, I added to items to the agenda, but I think we did cover it | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | in our side conversation on Hangouts | 16:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, yes I think those are covered | 16:02 |
| jelkner | inana_16, please remember our operating agreement requires us to keep meeting notes | 16:02 |
| inana_16 | the other item that I wanted to talk about is this : https://mattermost.com/trial/ | 16:02 |
| jelkner | we automate that process with LittleBrother | 16:02 |
| inana_16 | again, trying to understand how to proceed | 16:02 |
| jelkner | so we should state for the record whatever we decided in the video chat | 16:02 |
| ubuntourist | Sharing with those who missed class is a good idea... | 16:02 |
| jelkner | zOnny, don't forget to sign in | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | I'm going to forward that email to ubuntourist and zOnny maybe they can help me with that | 16:03 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION speaks as someone who missed class. | 16:03 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist same | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | Ok, | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | first item: Talk about pricing with Louie | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | we started a document on next cloud with the new pricing list | 16:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION has been nagging about this for awhile | 16:04 |
| jelkner | we can't generate revenue if we don't know what we charge! | 16:04 |
| jelkner | so i'm glad to see the conversation taking place | 16:04 |
| jelkner | i request that we get a price list for basic websites back on our website | 16:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | so you can go to our NWD document folder and you'll find it as "price list" | 16:05 |
| jelkner | inana_16, it should be on our website too | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | lelkneralfaro, shared this as well | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vhgM3kujoKbk7TkW8uv4-PZzZjEVJmep00O75S2nCs0/edit?usp=sharing | 16:05 |
| jelkner | so anyone can find it | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | the old documentation we had about that | 16:06 |
| inana_16 | so I think is going to be really helpful | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | Not migrating to mayfirst? | 16:06 |
| jelkner | we are, ubuntourist | 16:06 |
| jelkner | just little by little | 16:06 |
| jelkner | as zOnny suggested | 16:06 |
| SITarabuta | also, please name stuff clearly (we are over the date 8 char limit and over Windows' 260) | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | Ne'er mind then. ;-) | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | That's an old document that lelkneralfaro and replaceafill created | 16:07 |
| jelkner | leave the old junk where it was | 16:07 |
| jelkner | and bring over only what we need | 16:07 |
| jelkner | so we don't drown in the old crap | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | wasn't that me jelkner LOL | 16:07 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, it was zOnny | 16:07 |
| jelkner | but maybe you to | 16:07 |
| jelkner | he reminded us to keep things simple | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:07 |
| jelkner | when inana_16 and jelkner were about to make them complicated | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | +100 | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | lol | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | Okay, we're messy I guess jelkner | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | Next item: | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | Check in financial stuff with Jeff | 16:09 |
| ubuntourist | We have different ideas on "simple". Remembering "old documents are over there while new documents are over here" has gotten us in trouble before. | 16:09 |
| jelkner | ok, this is the last meeting in july | 16:09 |
| ubuntourist | The usual response being "I'm a bear of small brain and can't remember where we put stuff." | 16:09 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 16:09 |
| jelkner | we are ok financially for the end of month payments | 16:10 |
| jelkner | so now august is the big test | 16:10 |
| jelkner | we need a minimum of $6K in august to stay afloat | 16:10 |
| jelkner | so we need to begin now thinking about how to generate that revenue | 16:10 |
| jelkner | here are the main things we need to do: | 16:11 |
| jelkner | 1. get our price list together | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | May need to apply pressure to David / Christian re Sound Advice state of contract... it keeps getting kicked down the road a bit. | 16:11 |
| jelkner | 2. bring closure to projects we are working on and invoicing them | 16:11 |
| jelkner | 3. look for new projects | 16:11 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i read that we have a contract on that already | 16:12 |
| jelkner | the one zOnny signed last july | 16:12 |
| jelkner | is still in force | 16:12 |
| jelkner | it includes 100 hours between now and oct 1 | 16:12 |
| jelkner | and 100 hours after oct 1 | 16:13 |
| jelkner | so let's get some work done for david | 16:13 |
| jelkner | and send him the invoice | 16:13 |
| abuchholz | I have been working on SoundAdvice | 16:13 |
| jelkner | we don't need a new contract | 16:13 |
| abuchholz | We met on Tuesday and David gave me a good idea of what he wanted | 16:13 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, it is really important that we decide if PAldea and you are the team on this | 16:14 |
| jelkner | i talked with PAldea this morning | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, technically, yes, but I thought the conversation with him indicated that there was some sort of wiggling necessary to bill. I guess we should try sending an invoice sometime soon and see what happens. | 16:14 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:14 |
| abuchholz | I have started working on several of these things, but Kevin, Paul, and I will eventually need to work with the physical equipment. | 16:14 |
| jelkner | that's exactly what we should do, ubuntourist | 16:14 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:15 |
| inana_16 | Thanks jelkner | 16:15 |
| inana_16 | Alright, anything else? | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | Uhm, my item | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | lol | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | !remind | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | dangit | 16:16 |
| zOnny | !do not remind | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | lol | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | Sorry SITarabuta | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | !remind | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | it was at the top | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | said | 16:16 |
| ubuntourist | Yeah, the reminders really need to go into a log... | 16:17 |
| inana_16 | Nothing to see there | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | Meeting - argh | 16:17 |
| inana_16 | I see | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | Anyway so: | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | I know it has been like this for a very very long time. I am just proposing a vote, maybe others think the same. | 16:17 |
| SITarabuta | Would it be better to have the meeting on Monday, at least while school is out? There is always something going on Sunday and I have to carry my laptop. Don't others have the same issue? | 16:18 |
| SITarabuta | Am I the only one? :( | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | yeah, sometime SITarabuta | 16:18 |
| abuchholz | I don't mind monday | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | sometimes* | 16:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | Monday is good for me too | 16:19 |
| abuchholz | Poll time :P | 16:19 |
| inana_16 | + | 16:19 |
| jelkner | i won't be able to make monday | 16:19 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:19 |
| jelkner | just to let you all know | 16:19 |
| ubuntourist | The definition of "week" has become a bit more amorphous for me. ;-) I'm mentally trying to think: What's slated for Monday already? | 16:19 |
| inana_16 | :( | 16:19 |
| SITarabuta | hold on hold on we have jelkner and ubuntourist who have strong opinions i am sure | 16:19 |
| abuchholz | lul | 16:19 |
| jelkner | i don't have an opinion, SITarabuta | 16:19 |
| jelkner | just a reality | 16:19 |
| jelkner | i can't make monday meetings | 16:20 |
| SITarabuta | oh.. | 16:20 |
| jelkner | we picked sunday for that reason | 16:20 |
| jelkner | august 24 i'm back at APS | 16:20 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, Monday at 12:00 - 12:30 is open. | 16:20 |
| jelkner | i can make sundays | 16:20 |
| jelkner | but not monday to friday | 16:20 |
| jelkner | we used to meet thursday evening | 16:20 |
| jelkner | if you want me to continue participating at the meetings, they can't be monday to friday during the work day | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | maybe we could do monday 3 / 4 pm? I don't know, I am just putting out ideas | 16:21 |
| jelkner | if you don't need me here | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | we do jelkner | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | Personal preference, though slight: Stick with Sundays. Today my brain is bear-like and moving things around is giving me a headache. ;-) | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | it's just that for now i don't have much control of my life. still living with parents ;) we always leave on sunday. i was thinking if others have the same issue | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | we can keep sunday if it is an inconvenience | 16:22 |
| jelkner | historically, sunday has been good | 16:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | Why don't we keep Sunday meetings for now | 16:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | and if someone has to miss, and they haven't been requested to present/address an issue | 16:23 |
| jelkner | btw, there is reason behind our past practice | 16:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | related to them, then it's okay if they skip? | 16:23 |
| jelkner | we wanted a weekend that had one "weekday" and one "weekend day" | 16:23 |
| jelkner | we have friday and saturday off | 16:23 |
| jelkner | as you get older you may appreciate that | 16:24 |
| ubuntourist | The logs are there for people who miss. It does mean they can't weigh in during the meeting, but an e-mail follow-up for important stuff works. | 16:24 |
| jelkner | since you have a day off when business is open | 16:24 |
| jelkner | to take care of things | 16:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, +1 | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | ok. let's keep it Sunday | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:24 |
| inana_16 | Anything else? | 16:24 |
| ubuntourist | And there's always "remind" to try to bring up something before-hand even if the person doing the reminding can't present. (Designate a proxy.) | 16:25 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 16:25 |
| jelkner | one small thing | 16:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, +1 | 16:25 |
| jelkner | i'd like to propose eliminating the practice of signing in on the website for these meetings | 16:25 |
| jelkner | since it is redundant | 16:25 |
| jelkner | the man with two watches problem | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | Ohhhh, maybe we could make it so that an event can have checking in disabled | 16:26 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | so that way people can't check in at all. | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | I feel that way about the man with two document repositories. ;-) | 16:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner -1 | 16:26 |
| abuchholz | oh boy new feature | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | an "uncheckable" event | 16:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, lol | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | abuchholz it is literally a BooleanField with an IF statement. | 16:27 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, sadly, the alternative is worse | 16:27 |
| abuchholz | i know lol | 16:27 |
| abuchholz | but its never that easy ;) | 16:27 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:27 |
| abuchholz | file an issue jelkner | 16:27 |
| lelkneralfaro | I haven't checked in to the past three meetings :/ so I'm a step ahead of you jelkner | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | I got it don't worry | 16:28 |
| abuchholz | Wait | 16:28 |
| abuchholz | before we drop the bag of gravel | 16:28 |
| ubuntourist | Maybe LittleBrother could map ubuntourist <-> kevin.cole and do the checkin for us. | 16:28 |
| abuchholz | We need people to accept merge requests for libreorganize | 16:28 |
| abuchholz | some have been opened for a month | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Worry about running late | 16:28 |
| abuchholz | ACTION done. | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | inana_16, That's SITarabuta 's job... | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | can you continue this on hangout? | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | Thanks everyone | 16:29 |
| jelkner | thanks, inana_16! | 16:29 |
| lelkneralfaro | thanks everyone! see you next time. | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | Have a great weekend | 16:29 |
| jelkner | zOnny, are you coming over? | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/hangout | 16:30 |
| zOnny | jelkner where r u? | 16:30 |
| jelkner | i'm here, zOnny, where are you! ;-) | 16:30 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, I have to go, but feel free to email me any more pricing questions and we can set up another meeting if you want somebody to talk to about it. | 16:30 |
| abuchholz | cant join hangout at the moment I kinda have to go. PAldea contact me on discord about SoundAdvice pls | 16:31 |
| PAldea | abuchholz, alright | 16:31 |
| abuchholz | thanks | 16:31 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 19:25 |
| jelkner | !remind Can we move end of week meeting to 4 pm starting 8/27? | 19:26 |
| "Can we move end of week meeting to 4 pm starting 8/27?" added to message queue | 19:26 | |
| jelkner | inana_16, i just added our August meetings to the calendar | 19:29 |
| inana_16 | thanks jelkner | 19:29 |
| jelkner | i made the sunday 12 noon meeting reoccur 12 times, but only did 3 for the thursday meeting | 19:30 |
| jelkner | since i will ask that we move back to 4 pm on thursdays starting august 27 | 19:30 |
| jelkner | i'll be back at APS then | 19:30 |
| jelkner | and can't make a 12 noon meeting | 19:30 |
| jelkner | i hope that won't conflict with anyone | 19:31 |
| jelkner | if it does, i will just have to miss the thursday noon meetings, inana_16 | 19:31 |
| jelkner | i put that on the agenda for this sunday | 19:31 |
| inana_16 | hold on jelkner I'm in a meeting with zOnny and German | 19:31 |
| jelkner | np | 19:32 |
| jelkner | that's all i got | 19:32 |
| jelkner | we can talk later, inana_16 | 19:32 |
| jelkner | inana_16, ping | 21:11 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i'm back | 21:42 |
| jelkner | are we meeting on planning? | 21:42 |
| jelkner | inana_16, one more quick thing | 21:52 |
| jelkner | are you here? | 21:52 |
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