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| jelkner | !remind | 10:52 |
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| jelkner | !remind Jitsi server misbehaving | 10:52 |
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| jelkner | ubuntourist, zOnny, great to see you | 13:56 |
| jelkner | i tried getting on our jitsi server | 13:56 |
| ubuntourist | Ug. ;-) | 13:56 |
| jelkner | but it restarted | 13:56 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, investigating... | 13:56 |
| jelkner | and wouldn't let me connect to hangout | 13:56 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:56 |
| jelkner | please let me know when i should try agin | 13:58 |
| jelkner | again | 13:58 |
| ubuntourist | Simultaneously working on mail PostgreSQL database -- and in IRC on another channel... | 13:59 |
| ubuntourist | And I see we have more e-mail from rick. Haven't looked at it yet though. | 14:00 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, rebooted. On hangout now... | 14:01 |
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| inana_16 | !remind | 14:15 |
| inana_16 | !remind Website Estimate for NOVA Cleaning / Work on price list | 14:17 |
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| inana_16 | !remind Plans for this week | 14:18 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 14:22 |
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| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, hello | 15:02 |
| zOnny | Hey lelkneralfaro, where r u? | 15:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, at home relaxing, it's Sunday, day to rest, not work | 15:03 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro I see, Have good weekend | 15:04 |
| ubuntourist | !remind Investigate using community-driven Certificate Authority CAcert as OUR certificate authority http://www.cacert.org/ | 15:24 |
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| Investigate using community-driven Certificate Authority CAcert as OUR certificate authority http://www.cacert.org/ (ubuntourist) | 16:00 | |
| inana_16 | Hello everyone! | 16:00 |
| abuchholz | hi :) | 16:01 |
| jelkner | Good day! | 16:01 |
| lelkneralfaro | good morning | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | Alright, | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | let's start | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | item: Jitsi server misbehaving (jelkner) | 16:01 |
| jelkner | i couldn't sign on this morning | 16:02 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, restarted the server, and it worked after that | 16:02 |
| jelkner | i was hoping Stefan would be here | 16:02 |
| jelkner | to ask him what happened | 16:02 |
| jelkner | part of our long term discussion of whether this infrastructure is worth the effort we put into maintaining it | 16:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | zOnny and I noticed that jitsi had issues, we met with Clayton on on Wednesday, and we couldn't make it, we used a public one | 16:03 |
| jelkner | my point exactly, inana_16 | 16:03 |
| abuchholz | this might just be a problem with jitsi not our server | 16:03 |
| ubuntourist | I thought Stefan had set up a nightly restart, but could not find it. Meanwhile, my nightly restart of only the Jitsi services | 16:03 |
| jelkner | if our server isn't reliable, its a net negative for our business | 16:03 |
| jelkner | better not to have it than to have it | 16:04 |
| ubuntourist | does not appear to be enough. | 16:04 |
| jelkner | if it is reliable, on the other hand | 16:04 |
| jelkner | it makes us look competent and shows off our skills | 16:04 |
| jelkner | so we need to determine which it is | 16:04 |
| ubuntourist | (My nightly systemctl restarts have been in place for quite some time now. Stefan's was, I thought a full "shutdown -r") | 16:05 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to stefan when next i talk to him | 16:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION done (again ;-) | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | Great | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | I have logs to look at, showing failures. | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | next item: Website Estimate for NOVA Cleaning / Work on price list | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | I mentioned to jelkner and zOnny that Heylin sent me a contact of a manager were she used to work | 16:06 |
| inana_16 | and he's asking for a "basic website", he sent some references (screenshots) | 16:06 |
| inana_16 | So, I think we started to define the prices list | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | I created a document on our next cloud | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | I need zOnny and lelkneralfaro to discuss and add information there | 16:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, we have been discussing this all morning | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | so I can send him an estimate ASAP | 16:08 |
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| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, inana_16 let's learn from our previous experience on these kind of gigs | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | We? you and zOnny, lelkneralfaro ? | 16:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, not this site specifically, so we can work on that after this meeting | 16:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, yes me and zOnny | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | nice | 16:08 |
| jelkner | often times, we can't actually deliver value that makes it worth our while | 16:08 |
| jelkner | if all you need is a little website | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | I would like to know about that discussion lelkneralfaro | 16:09 |
| jelkner | wordpress works fine | 16:09 |
| jelkner | it's cheaper | 16:09 |
| inana_16 | mmmm | 16:09 |
| zOnny | yeah wordpress! | 16:09 |
| inana_16 | he's now using Wix | 16:09 |
| jelkner | we really need to have clear what our business model is | 16:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, yes of course, we will share | 16:09 |
| jelkner | right, or Wix | 16:09 |
| inana_16 | -.- zOnny | 16:09 |
| zOnny | Yeah Wix! | 16:09 |
| jelkner | often times we don't have anything to offer | 16:09 |
| inana_16 | So, you think that is not a good idea to say yes to that kind of gigs? is something pretty similar to Abbys cleaning jelkner | 16:10 |
| jelkner | and we and the person for whom we are doing the work will both go away unhappy | 16:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, maybe we should all speak after this meeting, zOnny you and me | 16:10 |
| jelkner | inana_16, exactly | 16:10 |
| SITarabuta | Can't we just deploy a lil' GitLab page? | 16:10 |
| jelkner | imho, it's not the kind of thing we could get into | 16:10 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner, are we that rich that we can afford declining jobs | 16:10 |
| jelkner | but i leave it up to y'all | 16:10 |
| inana_16 | Yeah, I have a meeting later with Daniela and jelkner but I can join you lelkneralfaro after that | 16:10 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, yes | 16:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, okay | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | WordPress - barely tolerable. Wix... well maybe it's gotten better, but it used to be just a way to get yourself locked into a troublesome piece of crap. | 16:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, what time? | 16:11 |
| inana_16 | My meeting with them is at 1pm | 16:11 |
| inana_16 | not sure how long will be | 16:11 |
| inana_16 | lelkneralfaro | 16:11 |
| jelkner | inana_16, you need to learn from experience | 16:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, okay I will want to eat lunch too | 16:11 |
| jelkner | so do what you think is right | 16:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, so how about 2:30 PM EST | 16:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, idk what UST that is :) | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | you can get your lunch while I'm meeting with them | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | lelkneralfaro | 16:12 |
| ubuntourist | (WordPress, from a user perspective, can do a lot of cool stuff. Wix, again, from memory, was just utter garbage.) | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | Ok, sounds good | 16:12 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done opining. | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | 2:30 lelkneralfaro, zOnny | 16:13 |
| inana_16 | ACTION done | 16:13 |
| inana_16 | Next item: Plans for this week | 16:13 |
| inana_16 | who wants to go first? ;) | 16:13 |
| jelkner | i will, since i can be quick | 16:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, yes 2 30 | 16:13 |
| jelkner | i'm working on two things: taxes and electronic document signing | 16:14 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, has an item on 2nd of these | 16:14 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is finally getting back to GASP (I hope), and riding shotgun on abuchholz / Gallaudet "Sound Advice" meeting Tuesday. | 16:14 |
| SITarabuta | HOPEFULLY, after a delay of 3 weeks, I can actually finish Business Tracker? | 16:14 |
| abuchholz | SoundAdvice, if David wants more stuff then implement that... otherwise its more or less done. Needs some finishing touches | 16:15 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, we need to invoice! | 16:15 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, what's the state of Azure SSO? Any word? | 16:15 |
| jelkner | you and i should do that this week | 16:15 |
| abuchholz | yeah sure. | 16:15 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist, It is working beautifully. I thought I CC'ed you. Anyway, it works ; | 16:16 |
| SITarabuta | ) | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | Meeting at 11 with Cesiah from MD latino Caucus (lelkneralfaro and I) , Design improvement for NOVALACIRO, CIDU wave test (regarding Accesibility) and other design issues (with zOnny ), | 16:16 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, You probably did. ;-) | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | Focus on find new projects with jelkner | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | zOnny, regarding the mattermost thing, what's the next step? | 16:17 |
| jelkner | zOnny, GFbot, lelkneralfaro? | 16:17 |
| ubuntourist | Since it's August, I'm dreading / anticipating the inevitable coming ARA crunch-time... | 16:18 |
| jelkner | this would move much faster if everyone could write up what they are doing and submit it together | 16:18 |
| jelkner | then we could glance over it and make any adjustments that are needed | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:18 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:19 |
| zOnny | inana_16 I haven't received a reply back yet from CAMBA but I follow up with them. | 16:20 |
| inana_16 | Great | 16:20 |
| ubuntourist | zOnny, you need to register users, right? Or is there a self-registration page I missed? | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | I'm continuing to learn Postgres and Django, that's my primary focus, but ill be dedicating time time to figuring out this price problem | 16:21 |
| inana_16 | Good question ubuntourist | 16:21 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist good point | 16:21 |
| ubuntourist | I poked around on the site but couldn't find a way to login or register. | 16:21 |
| zOnny | @you can register themselves | 16:21 |
| abuchholz | I just wanted to mention that from August 23 to Sep 6 I will be gone. I'm traveling a bit and need to start working on college apps | 16:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | and I've got the meeting with inana_16 tomorrow | 16:22 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, who will take over from you on SoundAdvice? | 16:22 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION ducks | 16:22 |
| jelkner | we have two weeks, abuchholz | 16:23 |
| abuchholz | Ill take care of it | 16:23 |
| abuchholz | dont worry | 16:23 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Tik tock... | 16:23 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION needs to pay attention to what's changed with Sound Advice... | 16:23 |
| inana_16 | ok, let's move to the last item: | 16:23 |
| inana_16 | Investigate using community-driven Certificate Authority CAcert as OUR certificate authority http://www.cacert.org/ (ubuntourist) | 16:23 |
| jelkner | this is just an assigned task to me | 16:24 |
| inana_16 | Oh | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i'll work with zOnny on it when he is here tomorrow | 16:24 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:24 |
| inana_16 | Cool | 16:24 |
| inana_16 | thanks jelkner | 16:24 |
| inana_16 | Anything else? | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | but just running certbot --nginx is easier ;-) | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | just kidding | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | I am glad they are CA, but... https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1 try going there o_O | 16:25 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, CAcert issues certificates for signing documents -- in addition to duplicating what Let's Encrypt does. | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist, I see. Well that makes sense ;-) | 16:26 |
| inana_16 | :) | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, more in hangout on that. | 16:27 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 16:27 |
| jelkner | cool | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | Thank you everyone | 16:27 |
| jelkner | Thank you, inana_16! | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | np ;) jelkner | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | GFbot, I just sent u the Claudia Jones resources design | 16:28 |
| GFbot | cool | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | please work on that ASAP | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | So I can check with u regarding text stiles | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | styles* | 16:28 |
| ubuntourist | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAcert.org | 16:30 |
| inana_16 | I found the solution https://patio.ica.coop/t/tech-coops-chat-mattermost/263/15 | 18:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, hi zOnny and I are starting up planning | 18:33 |
| inana_16 | Ok | 18:33 |
| lelkneralfaro | inana_16, to meet there | 18:33 |
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| ubuntourist | inana_16, Looks like we both reached out to the ICA folks regarding mattermost. (I reached out early today via e-mail.) | 19:58 |
| inana_16 | yeah ubuntourist | 19:59 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, https://claudiajonesschool.org/education/ | 20:07 |
| jelkner | inana_16, *MUCH* better | 20:08 |
| inana_16 | yeah, we can improve it with time | 20:08 |
| jelkner | but i still have a few easier, font and color tweaks | 20:08 |
| jelkner | can we meet on planning? | 20:08 |
| inana_16 | yes | 20:09 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, | 20:09 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, https://claudiajonesschool.org/education/ | 20:50 |
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