IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2020-09-13

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Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)03:43
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)03:43
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)03:43
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jelkner!remind09:50
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)09:50
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)09:50
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)09:50
jelkner!remind The Blog instance for Caleb09:50
'The Blog instance for Caleb' added to message queue09:50
jelkner!remind Clayton\'s issue on LO governance09:50
"Clayton's issue on LO governance" added to message queue09:50
jelkner!remind09:50
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)09:50
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)09:50
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)09:50
The Blog instance for Caleb (jelkner)09:50
Clayton's issue on LO governance (jelkner)09:50
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jelknerubuntourist, could you meet me on planning?14:13
jelknerwe have some very important things to discuss14:13
jelknerzOnny, lelkner-alfar and i have been at it since we got here at 8:30 am14:14
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nrcerna!remind14:26
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)14:26
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)14:26
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)14:26
The Blog instance for Caleb (jelkner)14:26
Clayton's issue on LO governance (jelkner)14:26
nrcerna!remind Networking and marketing14:27
'Networking and marketing' added to message queue14:27
nrcerna!remind One thing I learned on Thursday's conference 14:28
LittleBrotherInvalid arguments: No closing quotation.14:28
nrcerna!remind One thing I learned at the conference 14:29
'One thing I learned at the conference' added to message queue14:29
nrcerna!remind Plans for this week14:29
'Plans for this week' added to message queue14:29
nrcerna!remind14:29
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)14:29
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)14:29
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)14:29
The Blog instance for Caleb (jelkner)14:29
Clayton's issue on LO governance (jelkner)14:29
Networking and marketing (nrcerna)14:29
One thing I learned at the conference (nrcerna)14:29
Plans for this week (nrcerna)14:29
jelknerhttps://media.djangoproject.com/foundation/icla.pdf14:36
jelknerthat didn't work nrcerna and ubuntourist 14:48
jelknerzOnny says our network here is misbehaving14:49
ubuntouristHold. 14:49
nrcernaI'm in Big Blue Button jelkner , ubuntourist 14:49
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jelkneramina, abuchholz, Conor, DevinMcF good morning!15:32
DevinMcFGood morning!15:32
jelknerabuchholz, we were having trouble with the Jitsi server15:32
abuchholzare we15:32
abuchholz?15:32
jelknerdo you know how to restart it?15:32
abuchholzcause everyone is on planning rn15:32
jelknerthere was a 5 second delay for us15:32
nrcernathey're there jelkner 15:32
nrcernaI'm not sure if there's a dealy15:32
nrcernadelay*15:33
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jelknerhttps://www.dj4e.com/15:45
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nrcerna!remind15:50
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)15:50
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)15:50
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)15:50
The Blog instance for Caleb (jelkner)15:50
Clayton's issue on LO governance (jelkner)15:50
Networking and marketing (nrcerna)15:50
One thing I learned at the conference (nrcerna)15:50
Plans for this week (nrcerna)15:50
ubuntouristtransporter - libre transportation app not in this area15:58
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lelkneralfaro : PAldea : GFbot : cmoran : DevinMcF : amina : Conor : abuchholz : zOnny : nrcerna : +jelkner : @ubuntourist : wolcen : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ16:00
Good afternoon everyone!16:00
It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting.16:00
This is the agenda for today:16:00
Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) (jelkner)16:00
The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! (jelkner)16:00
Is NOVALACIRO mail certificate expired? Why can't Heylin access it from her desktop? (jelkner)16:00
The Blog instance for Caleb (jelkner)16:00
Clayton's issue on LO governance (jelkner)16:00
Networking and marketing (nrcerna)16:00
One thing I learned at the conference (nrcerna)16:00
Plans for this week (nrcerna)16:00
Have a nice day!16:00
jelknerGood morning!16:00
jelknerhttps://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.grobox.liberario/16:00
nrcernaHello everyone!16:00
lelkneralfarohello!16:00
abuchholzgood afternoon16:00
ubuntouristHail16:01
nrcernaWe have a lot of items today :-) so let's start16:01
nrcernafirst item: Time to recruit Lucky Member 7? 10 minutes (or more after meeting if needed) 16:01
jelknerok, that's me16:01
jelknerwe've talked alot about this, so i think i can do it in less than 1016:02
jelknerin brief16:02
jelkner1. we have developed "our product", which is the skill of our development team to the point where i believe it is marketable16:02
jelkner2. we're still, despite all our efforts, a bunch of geeks with limited business skills16:03
jelknerso, we have something to market, but no one who knows how to market16:03
jelknerinspired by the stories of other co-ops during the conference on thur and fri16:03
jelknerubuntourist, nrcerna and i talked about the need to actively recruit someone who could fill this need16:04
jelkneri'm call her "Lucky Member 7"16:04
jelknerour operating agreement calls for gender equity16:04
jelknerand we are currently 5 men and one woman16:05
jelknernrcerna has been raising this as a concern16:05
jelknerso, we are looking for a woman with the following skills:16:05
jelkner1. business and marketing interest and know-how16:05
jelkner2. roots in the co-op movement16:06
jelkner3. interest in the web application business16:06
jelknerdon't know if we can get all three at once16:06
jelknerbut if we get 1 and 2 or 1 and 3 (one is a must), the missing one could perhaps be learned in practice16:07
ubuntourist"roots" or "interest in getting rooted"?16:07
nrcernaI think the first one is required jelkner 16:07
jelknerour operating agreement defines the process of new members based on sponsorship by an existing member16:07
jelknernrcerna, +116:07
jelknerthat's the whole point16:07
ubuntourist"roots" would be great, as it would provide the networking. but may be harder to find.16:07
nrcernacorrect16:07
jelkneri am proposing that nrcerna be the sponsor16:08
jelknerso she would make the first determination if we have a good fit16:08
ubuntouristI see 1 & 3 as somewhat easier to find.16:08
nrcerna+1 ubuntourist 16:08
jelknerwe will in all likelihood need to take out a loan to make this possible16:09
jelknernot sure i agree ubuntourist and nrcerna 16:09
jelknerif we are asking bianca, for example16:09
ubuntouristThen again, if we're shopping for the person via our current network... maybe easier than I think.16:09
jelknerwe will get 1 and 216:09
jelknerif we ask agaric, probably 1 and 316:09
jelknerso we'll see16:09
jelknershould we do this?16:10
jelknerACTION done16:10
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nrcernathe co-ops bonds are kinda difficult to find I mean you know that in my case I didnt know about that, I'm learning about it as other members jelkner 16:10
ubuntouristACTION is done. No need to beat that to death w/o stefan to keep us on time. 😉16:10
nrcernabut now we're connecting with other co-ops16:10
nrcernawhich is good16:10
nrcernaso maybe we can find someone related to it16:11
nrcernaACTION done16:11
nrcernanext item: The way to build custom CMS widgets - go LibreOrganizer Team! 16:11
jelknerhold on, nrcerna 16:11
jelknerthis is one of the most important decisions we have ever made16:12
jelknerwe need to either vote, or i thought ubuntourist had a proposal16:12
nrcernasure16:12
ubuntouristPut it in writing...16:13
nrcernabtw who is going to write this down? so we can read it later? jelkner, ubuntourist 16:13
nrcernagreat ubuntourist 16:13
nrcernayes I am16:13
nrcernajelkner16:13
jelknerlet's vote16:14
ubuntouristSorry. I was thinking of writing up something else.16:14
jelknershould we move ahead with looking for member 7?16:14
jelkneras described above?16:14
jelkneri vote yes16:15
ubuntouristAs for recruting a new member with marketing chops and our values: +116:15
zOnny+116:15
lelkneralfaro+116:15
nrcerna+116:15
nrcernawe're missing Stefan16:15
jelkneryes, nrcerna, don't know what happened16:16
jelkneri talked to him yesterday and he said he would be here16:16
nrcernaremember why he wanted to move the meeting?16:16
ubuntouristFour in favor, one abstaining. 😉16:16
jelkneranyway, we need to move on16:16
nrcernahe said that on sunday is kinda difficult for him jelkner 16:16
jelkner5, ubuntourist 16:16
nrcernaGreat!16:17
nrcernaAgain we should try to use polls for this jelkner 16:17
jelknernrcerna, not for this, our operating agreement demands votes appear in the minutes16:17
jelknerthese are the minutes16:18
nrcernaI see, ok16:18
nrcernaso you again,jelkner, next item: The Blog instance for Caleb16:18
jelknernrcerna, zOnny is taking care of this16:18
jelknerACTION done16:18
ubuntouristACTION is channeling Stefan: 12 minutes remaining...16:19
nrcernanext item: Clayton's issue on LO governance (j16:19
jelknerok, this is the one ubuntourist wanted written up16:20
ubuntouristThis is what I was thinking needed to be written up16:20
jelkneri'll make it my task to have that by thursday16:20
jelknerbasic idea is we have contributors wanting a process from us for LibreOrganize16:20
jelknerwe need to follow up16:20
jelknerto be continued thursday16:20
ubuntouristThere's a bit of history, models of how others have done it, why it's important, etc.16:20
jelknerACTION done16:20
ubuntouristACTION is also done.16:21
nrcernaGreat16:21
nrcernathanks16:21
nrcernaso next one:16:21
nrcernaNetworking and marketing 16:21
nrcernathat's me16:21
nrcernajelkner,ubuntourist and  I attended a Conference on thursday, since then I joined the slack channel they provided and I've been trying (as ubuntourist) to connect with cooperative members to see if anyone is interested in BT and LO16:21
nrcernaKevin suggested them to use mattermost for that but they're really attached to Slack now, so I'm going to keep posting there.16:22
jelknerthat is a good plan, nrcerna 16:22
ubuntouristI made some connections with VA people attending, and put them in touch with us by email16:22
nrcernaI noticed that in fact we can networking, we received some replies from some of them so I guess I'm going to try to connect with you as well jelkner ,since they wanted to meet in person16:23
ubuntouristAlso, in the networking, the small world connection to both The Working World / BCI16:23
jelkneri would just like to add the most important thing we can do in the short term with marking is to make LO the kind of app our users love16:23
nrcernaand Sadly I'm not there16:23
nrcernajelkner16:23
ubuntouristAnd the small world connection to NM Solidarity and the Pizzigati Prize.16:23
jelknernrcerna, you skipped one item16:23
jelknerwhich relates to marketing16:23
nrcerna? jelkner 16:24
jelknerthe What's New app from LO16:24
jelkneris *exactly* what we need16:24
ubuntouristI'm pursuing the later, with it's connection to the Non-Profit Open Source Initiative and Aspiration Tech.16:24
jelknerthings like that16:24
ubuntouristACTION is done16:24
jelknercustom forms that empower users to update content and keep their sites engaging16:24
jelknerACTION done16:25
nrcernaACTION Done16:25
nrcernanext item: One thing I learned at the conference 16:25
jelknernrcerna, let's talk replies after16:25
nrcernathat's me again16:25
nrcernaI just wanted to have a little bit of this here jelkner 16:26
nrcernasince is a looong discussion 16:26
nrcernaI joined the Financial Accounting for Cooperatives: A Question & Answer Skill Building Session, 16:26
nrcernand they're were saying that is important to track everything you do for the cooperative, so you at the end of the year can see how much you did in that period and that could help every member to be aware of that.16:26
nrcernaAnd*16:26
nrcernaSo the thing is to know the difference between time and billable time, but as they said we should track everything.16:27
ubuntouristACTION panics on Stefan's behalf 😉 3 minutes remaining.16:27
nrcernaIt would be a good practice for interns and members, I was confused about what to track in BT, that's why I'm bringing this jelkner 16:27
nrcernaACTION done16:27
nrcernalet's talk later about that16:27
jelknerlet's talk more after16:27
nrcernaSo...16:28
nrcerna Plans for this week 16:28
nrcernaLet's start sharing!16:28
jelknerjelkner will be working on the contributor agreement and description of governance issue for LO16:28
ubuntouristStill sloooowly slogging forward with Test Driven Design, and now, looking at maps, transportation RESTful APIs16:28
lelkneralfaroACTION meeting for Mexico Solidarity Project16:28
abuchholzACTION will be working on helping Conor and Devin and groups for LibreOrganize16:28
zOnnyACTION work in LO issues and AEA feature requests16:29
GFbotACTION teaching django according to DJ4E with his class16:29
jelknerzOnny, let's put AEA on the agenda for thursday16:29
zOnnyjelkner: k16:30
nrcernaACTION drops the bag of gravel16:30
jelknergreat!16:30
nrcernathanks everyone16:30
abuchholz24 seconds over the time16:30
abuchholzunacceptable16:30
nrcernaGFbot, jelkner is asking if you reached your students to meet with him today16:32
GFbotjelkner i talked with them16:32
GFbotand they can't early today16:32
jelknerok GFbot 16:33
GFbotthey can meet on Thursday early16:33
jelknerhow early?16:33
jelknerGFbot, 16:33
GFbotif you are able to meet with us16:33
jelkneri teach thursday16:33
jelkneri can meet after our 4 pm16:33
jelknerwill that work?16:33
GFbotyou are able morning or after lunch?16:33
jelkner5 pm16:33
GFbotOh16:33
jelknerno, GFbot 16:33
GFbotsure16:33
jelknertoo stressful right now16:33
jelkneri can't do anything in the morning16:33
GFbot4pm then?16:33
jelkner4 pm is our meeting, GFbot 16:34
jelknerafter that16:34
GFbotcool16:34
GFbotsounds good16:34
GFbotis perfect16:34
jelknercool, let's do that16:34
nrcernaGreat thanks GFbot16:34
GFbotnp16:34
GFbotjelkner i was talking to nrcerna about teach her CSS/HTML and also linux commands16:35
nrcerna+116:35
jelknercmoran, are you talking to zOnny?16:35
cmoranyes16:36
jelknercool16:36
nrcernaSo I can do that before you come here ;)16:36
nrcernajelkner16:36
nrcernaACTION Away16:39
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SITarabutawell there is my sorry self, 1 hour and 10 minutes late16:41
SITarabutasleeping through 3 alarms ffs16:41
jelknerSITarabuta, i have a meeting in 4 minutes16:56
jelknerbut you missed a really important discussion16:56
SITarabutaI know16:56
jelknerSITarabuta, can we talk after?16:56
SITarabutaI read the logs16:56
SITarabutaYes16:56
jelknercool16:56
jelknernrcerna and i meet with novalaciro at 116:56
jelkneri'll call you after16:56
SITarabutaOkay16:57
nrcernajelkner, 17:40
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jelknernrcerna, can you meet me back on novalaciro again?18:17
SITarabutazOnny, can we meet to talk on planning for the blog issue?18:20
nrcernajelkner, have to go to get food. My mom is calling me now18:57
nrcernato go downstairs jelkner18:57
jelknernrcerna, thanks, nana!18:57
jelknerlater18:57
nrcernasee you later18:57
nrcernaACTION AWAY18:58
abuchholzACTION AWAY19:09
jelknerACTION signs off for the day19:42
nrcernaACTION back19:53

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