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| nrcerna | !remind | 15:34 |
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| Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) (jelkner) | 15:34 | |
| Can we get voting to work at AEA? (jelkner) | 15:34 | |
| Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for Louis? (jelkner) | 15:34 | |
| Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting (jelkner) | 15:34 | |
| Updated on new project with AGARIC (nrcerna) | 15:34 | |
| jelkner | !remind Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke | 16:23 |
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| nrcerna | who is Ajoke? jelkner | 16:24 |
| jelkner | patience, nrcerna, good things come to those who wait ;-) | 16:25 |
| nrcerna | yaasss | 16:26 |
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| abuchholz | jelkner, peter, francesco and I are done with math we could join class for the last 5 minutes if we had the link | 17:06 |
| abuchholz | if you think that worth doing | 17:06 |
| nrcerna | ACTION going out to grab something to lunch. I'll brb in about an hour | 17:23 |
| nrcerna | ACTION AWAY | 17:24 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, where's the link to the logic circuit simulator? | 17:39 |
| abuchholz | https://www.simulide.com/p/downloads.html | 17:39 |
| jelkner | Thnx! | 17:40 |
| abuchholz | I put it in learning but I can also put it here | 17:40 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 17:41 |
| Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) (jelkner) | 17:41 | |
| Can we get voting to work at AEA? (jelkner) | 17:41 | |
| Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for Louis? (jelkner) | 17:41 | |
| Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting (jelkner) | 17:41 | |
| Updated on new project with AGARIC (nrcerna) | 17:41 | |
| Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke (jelkner) | 17:41 | |
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| nrcerna | ACTION back | 18:34 |
| lelkneralfaro | how do you add little brother remind? | 18:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | just "/remind" | 18:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | ? | 18:41 |
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| abuchholz | lelkneralfaro, its "!remind (Item Title)" sorry for late response | 19:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | abuchholz, ahh great no problem, thanks | 19:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | !remind unfortunately, we owe lots of money to the DC government | 19:08 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 19:27 |
| Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) (jelkner) | 19:27 | |
| Can we get voting to work at AEA? (jelkner) | 19:27 | |
| Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for Louis? (jelkner) | 19:27 | |
| Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting (jelkner) | 19:27 | |
| Updated on new project with AGARIC (nrcerna) | 19:27 | |
| Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke (jelkner) | 19:27 | |
| unfortunately, we owe lots of money to the DC government (lelkneralfaro) | 19:27 | |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, can you join us on planning | 19:27 |
| jelkner | ? | 19:28 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you? | 19:28 |
| zOnny | jelkner k | 19:28 |
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| jelkner | ubuntourist, we're on planning | 19:33 |
| nrcerna | !remind | 19:44 |
| Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) (jelkner) | 19:44 | |
| Can we get voting to work at AEA? (jelkner) | 19:44 | |
| Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for Louis? (jelkner) | 19:44 | |
| Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting (jelkner) | 19:44 | |
| Updated on new project with AGARIC (nrcerna) | 19:44 | |
| Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke (jelkner) | 19:44 | |
| unfortunately, we owe lots of money to the DC government (lelkneralfaro) | 19:44 | |
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| ubuntourist | http://www.usworker.coop/guilded/ | 19:51 |
| ubuntourist | My ears could not take that squeak. | 19:53 |
| ubuntourist | !remind Brief report back on DC Stakeholders meeting | 19:58 |
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| PAldea : amina : cedwards92 : @ubuntourist : zOnny : lelkneralfaro : abuchholz : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 20:00 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 20:00 | |
| It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 20:00 | |
| This is the agenda for today: | 20:00 | |
| Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
| Can we get voting to work at AEA? (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
| Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for Louis? (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
| Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
| Updated on new project with AGARIC (nrcerna) | 20:00 | |
| Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
| unfortunately, we owe lots of money to the DC government (lelkneralfaro) | 20:00 | |
| Brief report back on DC Stakeholders meeting (ubuntourist) | 20:00 | |
| Have a nice day! | 20:00 | |
| nrcerna | Hello Everyone! | 20:00 |
| jelkner | hello, nrcerna | 20:00 |
| ubuntourist | Hi | 20:00 |
| nrcerna | :) | 20:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | hi | 20:00 |
| abuchholz | What an agenda | 20:00 |
| nrcerna | yeah abuchholz | 20:00 |
| abuchholz | I can hardly contain my excitement! | 20:00 |
| nrcerna | lol | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | Alright, first item: Time to update our business plan (thoughts reflecting CISPES, AEA, and replaceafill) | 20:01 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, this is mine, and i'll combine it with item 2 | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | sure | 20:01 |
| jelkner | basically, it is about the path forward for LibreOrganize | 20:01 |
| jelkner | we reached a point where aea was questioning whether they should stay with us | 20:02 |
| jelkner | zOnny went in and fixed that temporarily | 20:02 |
| jelkner | but i'd like to be more proactive | 20:02 |
| jelkner | i think voting is key | 20:02 |
| jelkner | i've said that for a long time | 20:02 |
| jelkner | and am even willing to put some resources toward it | 20:03 |
| jelkner | but i don't see much movement | 20:03 |
| jelkner | so i wanted to bring it up | 20:03 |
| ubuntourist | I know it's not ours from the ground up, but I recently sent mail about a voting system that could be self-hosted. | 20:03 |
| ubuntourist | (I forget the specific URL, but I can search the e-mail quickly.) | 20:03 |
| jelkner | replaceafull always thought we should focus like a laser on LO development | 20:03 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:03 |
| jelkner | we decided we couldn't afford to do that | 20:04 |
| jelkner | problem is, nrcerna, we have no funding | 20:04 |
| jelkner | for that | 20:04 |
| nrcerna | I remember one of those talks with him jelkner | 20:04 |
| abuchholz | Jeff. What does AEA need for voting | 20:04 |
| abuchholz | Is it just groups? | 20:04 |
| abuchholz | Cause the system works. Its just getting everyone accounts | 20:04 |
| jelkner | i need to be able to log in and see a vote | 20:05 |
| jelkner | only available to members of the pac | 20:05 |
| jelkner | they system should know who the members of the pac are | 20:05 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION found it. It's what the resurrected Ubuntu Community Council is using: the Condorcet Internet Voting Service (CIVS) | 20:05 |
| jelkner | and they should be able to engage in organizing activity as the pac | 20:05 |
| abuchholz | Yeah. I started working on this with Stefan we got groups working but then we decided to refactor. | 20:05 |
| jelkner | i also need to be able to vote as a worker at ACC | 20:05 |
| abuchholz | Therefore groups is one of the things we are working on in the refactor | 20:06 |
| jelkner | and not see votes for barcroft, barett, etc | 20:06 |
| jelkner | same thing with the board | 20:06 |
| jelkner | we talked about all this | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | yea | 20:06 |
| jelkner | abuchholz, what more do you need to know? | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | I understand | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | Nothing, I am working on it | 20:06 |
| jelkner | cool | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | Along with the refactor | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | we have groups implemented i just havent implmented the permissions into the polls app | 20:07 |
| abuchholz | if that makes sense | 20:07 |
| jelkner | ok, on another note then, we seem to be making progress with the CMS | 20:07 |
| jelkner | this is also *really* important | 20:07 |
| jelkner | in fact, it was what ingrid was complaining about the most | 20:07 |
| jelkner | so we need to keep checking back with her | 20:07 |
| jelkner | how are things going? | 20:08 |
| jelkner | are you ready for more training? | 20:08 |
| jelkner | what are you needs? | 20:08 |
| abuchholz | Is this directed at me? | 20:08 |
| jelkner | no, abuchholz | 20:08 |
| nrcerna | why she was complaining? jelkner | 20:08 |
| nrcerna | about what? | 20:08 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, she said she couldn't make changes to the site | 20:08 |
| jelkner | and members were complaining to her | 20:08 |
| jelkner | that it wasn't up-to-date | 20:08 |
| nrcerna | Yeah, but we tried to to anything that she and Alysha requested, on time | 20:09 |
| jelkner | i understand, nrcerna | 20:09 |
| jelkner | don't take it to heart | 20:09 |
| nrcerna | I know | 20:09 |
| jelkner | she was just passing on stress being directed at her | 20:09 |
| jelkner | the point is, we need to be proactive | 20:09 |
| nrcerna | I just I was surprised that's all | 20:09 |
| jelkner | we weren't | 20:09 |
| jelkner | so, we now have a good number of users | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | jelkner, groups can be done by the end of this month. We just need to finish the refactor which is priority atm because we are modifying a lot of LibreOrganize's source code | 20:10 |
| jelkner | CIDU, CJS, MSP, etc. | 20:10 |
| abuchholz | also i recommend we move to the next thing on the list | 20:10 |
| jelkner | great, abuchholz | 20:10 |
| nrcerna | sure | 20:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 20:10 |
| nrcerna | I propose to skip the next item jelkner since you already know lelkneralfaro answer about that | 20:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | +1 | 20:10 |
| jelkner | except, nrcerna | 20:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | not in the notes.... | 20:10 |
| jelkner | that we need to address who will do it | 20:11 |
| nrcerna | Okay | 20:11 |
| jelkner | we need someone to manage our financial data | 20:11 |
| jelkner | who? | 20:11 |
| nrcerna | Turning over gnucash upkeep, a task for....who? | 20:11 |
| jelkner | exactly! | 20:11 |
| jelkner | so, let's postpone this for now, with the understanding that nrcerna will meet with Ajoke | 20:11 |
| jelkner | does that work, nrcerna? | 20:11 |
| nrcerna | just me? jelkner | 20:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | nrcerna, will you send the email to Ajoke? | 20:12 |
| nrcerna | yes, I can do it | 20:12 |
| jelkner | we don't need a whole tribe, nrcerna | 20:12 |
| jelkner | we've got so much to do | 20:12 |
| jelkner | you can bill for the time, nrcerna | 20:12 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:12 |
| jelkner | just keep track of it | 20:12 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 20:12 |
| nrcerna | next item: Jelkner will be unable to attend 10/8 meeting | 20:13 |
| jelkner | superintendent is meeting with ACC about COVID plans | 20:13 |
| jelkner | so i won't be here next thursday | 20:13 |
| jelkner | just an fyi | 20:13 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 20:13 |
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| nrcerna | Thanks jelkner | 20:14 |
| nrcerna | next item: Update on new project with AGARIC | 20:14 |
| nrcerna | well, I received a Zullip message from Ben | 20:14 |
| nrcerna | he said that one of the projects on hold is going to start | 20:15 |
| jelkner | NICE! | 20:15 |
| nrcerna | is the redesign of this website: http://vulk.coop/ | 20:15 |
| nrcerna | I'm going to work with them regarding the graphics | 20:15 |
| nrcerna | I'll keep you updated | 20:16 |
| nrcerna | ACTION done | 20:16 |
| jelkner | next item is done to, right, nrcerna | 20:16 |
| jelkner | ? | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | I think this one is done as well: Ask nrcerna, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro to meet with Ajoke | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | yes | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | so last one: unfortunately, we owe lots of money to the DC government | 20:17 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is not keeping up. Just learned that Zullip is a Python app originally written by none other than Jessica McKellar (and Tim Abbott) | 20:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | mine... we covered it already in the chat? go for it again? | 20:17 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION missed alot of that discussion. Recap appreciated. Or later. | 20:17 |
| jelkner | well, only state here what we plan to do, lelkneralfaro | 20:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | ahh okay, ill give the report... so we have been missing payments to DC government and being fined every quarter for over a year | 20:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | which has been adding up | 20:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | payments for DC Paid Family Leaves and Unemployment Insurance that is | 20:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | although really we havent owed taxes for a while since we haven't had any paid employees | 20:19 |
| jelkner | who are they trying to charge, lelkneralfaro? | 20:19 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, adding up to... roughly how much? | 20:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | nonetheless, it could be because we haven't filed the correct papers, or, we did owe taxes at some point which we didn't pay | 20:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, $1300 | 20:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | $1302.51 I think, although i don't have the site up right now | 20:20 |
| zOnny | Holy S* | 20:20 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, please mention this to Ajoke | 20:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, nova web development | 20:20 |
| ubuntourist | roughly was close enough. ;-) | 20:20 |
| jelkner | which nova web development? | 20:20 |
| jelkner | there are two | 20:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, lol ;) | 20:21 |
| jelkner | one dead | 20:21 |
| jelkner | one almost dead ;-) | 20:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I don't think that is the case | 20:21 |
| jelkner | i know it is, lelkneralfaro | 20:21 |
| jelkner | since ultimately it comes down to federal tax id | 20:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I looked through the correspondence with DC | 20:21 |
| jelkner | and they are different | 20:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, ahhh good point | 20:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, you should have said that earlier | 20:21 |
| jelkner | anyway, to be continued | 20:21 |
| jelkner | let's investigate and seek help | 20:22 |
| nrcerna | please | 20:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | because right now it is Nova Web LLC | 20:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | but the tax id is probably the old one | 20:22 |
| ubuntourist | And, in the "trust but verify" we're 100% it's the *real* DC government? (I recall a fee being paid in VA to a bogus group pretending to be government.) | 20:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, yes it's the real DC gov | 20:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | ACTION done | 20:23 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, I was fairly confident that was the case, but, though it prudent to check. | 20:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, yes it was a good thought | 20:24 |
| jelkner | ok, let's move on | 20:24 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, we're waiting for you... | 20:24 |
| nrcerna | Anything else? | 20:25 |
| ubuntourist | Yes. | 20:25 |
| ubuntourist | On the agenda too. | 20:25 |
| nrcerna | ACTION confused | 20:25 |
| ubuntourist | DC Stakeholders meeting: lelkneralfaro and I: We came, we hobbed, we nobbed. ;-) | 20:26 |
| ubuntourist | I sent a transcript of the chat from the video meeting to all. | 20:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, we did, not as good as the hob nobbing at the BCI thing, but it was good to ttend | 20:27 |
| nrcerna | Thanks ubuntourist and sorry I missed that last item | 20:27 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, did you notice if the recent email from the meeting coordinator had the video recording link? | 20:27 |
| jelkner | 2 minutes, folks | 20:27 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, i did not catch it, i also didn't look closely | 20:27 |
| ubuntourist | OK. Well, maybe more next meeting. | 20:28 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 20:28 |
| nrcerna | Thanks ubuntourist | 20:28 |
| jelkner | great job, nrcerna | 20:28 |
| nrcerna | thanks everyone | 20:28 |
| jelkner | we made a long agenda | 20:28 |
| ubuntourist | One item though: October is National Co-op month AND DC Co-op Mothn | 20:28 |
| jelkner | on time | 20:28 |
| ubuntourist | And an event is being planned... | 20:29 |
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| ubuntourist | Details as they become available. | 20:29 |
| nrcerna | I was thinking about Stefan breathing fast and being worried jelkner | 20:29 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, networking is crucial and important, but will only be effective if targeted | 20:29 |
| jelkner | we need to work intentionally | 20:29 |
| jelkner | so we build the relationships that will help us survive | 20:30 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:30 |
| jelkner | right now, we need help: | 20:30 |
| jelkner | 1. getting gigs | 20:30 |
| jelkner | 2. doing finances | 20:31 |
| jelkner | 3. writing contracts | 20:31 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you and i work on paying that fee? | 20:31 |
| jelkner | so we don't loose our business in VA? | 20:31 |
| zOnny | k | 20:31 |
| jelkner | i'll meet you on the PayOurFee channel | 20:32 |
| nrcerna | zOnny, did Edythe reply to your email? or any news about that? | 20:32 |
| zOnny | u won't lose they always fix things with $ | 20:32 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i'm there now | 20:33 |
| abuchholz | Signing off for now. I'm gonna continue working on the refactor and probably do some homework | 20:58 |
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| jelkner | SITarabuta, where were you? | 21:30 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner I was in the car and I completely lost track of time because I was replying to Susan. | 21:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the evening | 21:38 |
| jelkner | oh lelkneralfaro, before i go | 21:38 |
| jelkner | don't rent a car | 21:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yay good news :) | 21:38 |
| jelkner | your mother has one ;-) | 21:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | cool | 21:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION now really signs off for the evening | 21:39 |
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