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| May First membership meeting / board elections - https://mayfirst.coop/en/membership-meeting/ (ubuntourist) | 15:03 | |
| jelkner | nrcerna, GM, can you meet me on planning? | 15:04 |
| nrcerna | yes | 15:04 |
| nrcerna | !remind brief report about meeting with Ajoke | 16:40 |
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| nrcerna | ACTION AWAY | 17:40 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 19:48 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind October is both National Co-Op Month and DC Co-Op Month, with events semi-planned... | 19:50 |
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| nrcerna | Let's try this chris119 ;) | 19:53 |
| nrcerna | do you have time to meet me after our meeting? So I can give you a LibreOrganize tour chris119 | 19:54 |
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| PAldea : chris119 : lelkneralfaro : amina : GFbot : zOnny : @ubuntourist : DevinMcF : SITarabuta : abuchholz : nrcerna : @ChanServ : wolcen : @msirabella | 20:00 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 20:00 | |
| It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 20:00 | |
| This is the agenda for today: | 20:00 | |
| Development / Back End services (nrcerna) | 20:00 | |
| May First membership meeting / board elections - https://mayfirst.coop/en/membership-meeting/ (ubuntourist) | 20:00 | |
| brief report about meeting with Ajoke (nrcerna) | 20:00 | |
| October is both National Co-Op Month and DC Co-Op Month, with events semi-planned... (ubuntourist) | 20:00 | |
| Have a nice day! | 20:00 | |
| nrcerna | Hello everyone! | 20:00 |
| abuchholz | Good Afternoon | 20:00 |
| SITarabuta | hi | 20:00 |
| ubuntourist | Hiya | 20:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | hello | 20:00 |
| PAldea | Hi! | 20:00 |
| nrcerna | ;-) | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | alright, let's start | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | first item: Development / Back End services | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | that's me | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | Regarding this I noticed that we need to advertise our Back end Skills, | 20:01 |
| ubuntourist | +1 | 20:02 |
| nrcerna | It would be great if the developers, SITarabuta, abuchholz , zOnny, can briefly explain the kind of services we can offer | 20:02 |
| nrcerna | (Since I'm lost about all the technical stuff) and put all that information together | 20:02 |
| nrcerna | nd think about prices so that way we can avoid expending time trying to figure it out how much are we going to charge. | 20:02 |
| ubuntourist | (Not sure how many people want Altair-8800 assembler expertise, though. 😏 | 20:02 |
| abuchholz | I mean I don't want to say we can do everything. But most things clients want are definitely achievable;e | 20:03 |
| zOnny | I'm front-end support | 20:03 |
| SITarabuta | Well we offer web development - making Django apps, customizing web sites with cute CSS, we also do other stuff that I am kind of forgetting about | 20:03 |
| abuchholz | +1 to what stefan said | 20:03 |
| zOnny | very cute css | 20:03 |
| nrcerna | Ok, so we can have the Back end and Front End services we do, since we need to update that on the website | 20:03 |
| SITarabuta | Some want sysadmin support - Oh no! My database is borked! Can you fix it? | 20:03 |
| ubuntourist | I think the key is to find a way to explain to non-technical people what "Django" etc mean, and why having such skills sets us apart. | 20:04 |
| abuchholz | yeah website should say backend and frontend | 20:04 |
| SITarabuta | And we'll pay you nothing for it! But you are good guys right!? Right?!?!?! | 20:04 |
| nrcerna | and this could help chris119 that is here with us today to know more about what we do | 20:04 |
| abuchholz | Lol | 20:04 |
| nrcerna | +1 ubuntourist | 20:04 |
| SITarabuta | Django - Amazing Python Web Framework that helps us build the websites. It's basically what the makes up the business logic of an application | 20:05 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 20:05 |
| chris119 | back/front works | 20:05 |
| ubuntourist | (Some people are just sold by techno-babble and words they've never heard, but being able to say why we think Python / Django is better than PHP / Drupal in a way they understand is important. | 20:05 |
| abuchholz | Django is our specialty... but that doesn't mean we aren't afraid to do other things. SoundAdvice being one of those | 20:05 |
| abuchholz | +1 ubuntourist | 20:06 |
| nrcerna | but I think we need details, in some of the things right? | 20:06 |
| chris119 | someone looking to get services should be directed | 20:06 |
| chris119 | to front end or back end services | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | what details I don't really understand | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | We do django apps | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | thats the backend | 20:06 |
| abuchholz | and the frontend is HTML, CSS, JS making everything look nice | 20:07 |
| nrcerna | I remember that this week I told abuchholz something that zOnny told me: "what kind of work is this?: back-end only, devops, theme, etc | 20:07 |
| nrcerna | ..every field is different." | 20:07 |
| SITarabuta | some are just multiple things | 20:07 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 20:07 |
| SITarabuta | sometimes backend leaks into devops and the other way | 20:07 |
| nrcerna | Okay | 20:07 |
| ubuntourist | Softwear ™ We cover your back end. No if's and's or butts. 😏 | 20:07 |
| abuchholz | lol | 20:07 |
| nrcerna | Great,I'm just trying to understand so we can market that ;) | 20:08 |
| nrcerna | ACTION done | 20:08 |
| abuchholz | our marketing point for backend is django apps | 20:08 |
| chris119 | ^ | 20:09 |
| ubuntourist | Also, I don't know what clients -- er, partners -- know or understand about distinctions like "back end", "front end", "full stack", etc. | 20:09 |
| nrcerna | *customized* | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | that should be the main point | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 20:09 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | however, we can do other things within reason | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | But really focusing on custom django apps | 20:09 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:09 |
| abuchholz | ACTION done. Lets move to the next item | 20:09 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION agrees. Move on. | 20:10 |
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| nrcerna | Next item: May First membership meeting / board elections - https://mayfirst.coop/en/membership-meeting/ | 20:10 |
| ubuntourist | This is me. | 20:10 |
| chris1119 | Technical difficulties solved | 20:10 |
| ubuntourist | More for jelkner and myself: Since we're paying members of May First, we should show up for meetings. | 20:10 |
| ubuntourist | It's a democratically run organization. So, we have some voting rights / ability to steer the direction of that ship. | 20:11 |
| ubuntourist | Maybe even convince them to use LibreOrganize... | 20:12 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 20:12 |
| nrcerna | wow, that would be amazing ubuntourist | 20:12 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, That's a jelkner fantasy. I'm the cynic, but willing to play along and promote. ;-) | 20:13 |
| nrcerna | ;-) | 20:13 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 20:13 |
| nrcerna | next item: brief report about meeting with Ajoke , lelkneralfaro can you please do it? | 20:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | sure | 20:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | so nrcerna and I met with Ajoke yesterday from Gilded(?) | 20:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | maybe Guilded | 20:14 |
| lelkneralfaro | who are a cooperative that provide accounting services | 20:14 |
| ubuntourist | Guilded (as in crafts from the middle ages, not gilded as in gold-plated). | 20:15 |
| lelkneralfaro | it was a good introductory meeting and we let Ajoke know that we were interested in getting help with our accounting and taxes | 20:15 |
| chris1119 | Thank you for the vocabulary | 20:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | and basically what they would do for an overhead fee is take care of all of our invoicing and contract work | 20:16 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, would they use Business Tracker for the invoicing? | 20:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, I doubt it | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | I was wondering the same | 20:17 |
| zOnny | how much $$? | 20:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | Ajoke said she would send more information, I haven't checked yet | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | she said that she's going to send an email with that information zOnny | 20:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | nrcerna, did she follow up? | 20:17 |
| nrcerna | not yet lelkneralfaro | 20:18 |
| ubuntourist | We should find out what they would use, and see if Business Tracker can be augmented to suit their needs. Cheaper for them and a feather in our cap if it can be done. | 20:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, +1 | 20:18 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 20:19 |
| nrcerna | thanks lelkneralfaro | 20:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | last thing... we could also pay for them for accounting consultation | 20:19 |
| ubuntourist | The big thing there, that is hellishly tough to compete with is anything that integrates with taxation. | 20:19 |
| chris1119 | This is something I am currently getting into so I could also provide that service | 20:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | which Ajoke didn't mention a price but I think I heard her say it would be a substantial fee | 20:20 |
| chris1119 | Starting school later this month | 20:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | ACTION done | 20:20 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 20:20 |
| nrcerna | Great, chris1119 | 20:20 |
| nrcerna | thanks lelkneralfaro | 20:20 |
| nrcerna | Next item: October is both National Co-Op Month and DC Co-Op Month, with events semi-planned...' | 20:21 |
| ubuntourist | Me again | 20:21 |
| ubuntourist | So. I just forwarded the DC Stakeholder's Newsletter to everyone@novawebdevelopment.org. It reiterates that October is Co-Op month | 20:22 |
| ubuntourist | and provides links. | 20:22 |
| ubuntourist | I'll have to re-read it myself, and follow the links. But during the meeting that lelkneralfaro and I attended there was talk of | 20:22 |
| ubuntourist | DC doing "something" (or "somethings") for the month. | 20:23 |
| ubuntourist | I just want it to be on people's radar. | 20:23 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 20:23 |
| nrcerna | Great, thanks ubuntourist | 20:23 |
| nrcerna | so, anyone has anything to add? | 20:24 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 20:24 |
| nrcerna | thanks everyone! | 20:24 |
| abuchholz | thanks | 20:24 |
| nrcerna | have a great weekend, see you on Sunday! ;-) | 20:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | thanks! | 20:25 |
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