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nrcerna | !remind | 15:21 |
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Documenting work, hours, payment (jelkner) | 15:21 | |
LibreOrganize idea for CMS (abuchholz) | 15:21 | |
jelkner | GM, nrcerna! | 15:36 |
nrcerna | GM jelkner | 15:36 |
jelkner | Any chance you could meet me in my BBB classroom? | 15:36 |
jelkner | i can give you the URL and pass code | 15:37 |
jelkner | if you are available | 15:37 |
nrcerna | Yes | 15:37 |
jelkner | got it, nrcerna? | 15:38 |
jelkner | nrcerna? | 15:40 |
jelkner | nrcerna, i have class in 10 minutes | 15:40 |
jelkner | but i wanted to talk to you first | 15:40 |
jelkner | if you can meet me now, cool | 15:40 |
jelkner | if not, we will need to wait until after school | 15:40 |
nrcerna | !remind Improving skills to move forward | 15:52 |
'Improving skills to move forward' added to message queue | 15:52 | |
nrcerna | ACTION AWAY, brb for our IRC meeting | 18:26 |
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nrcerna | !remind | 19:45 |
Documenting work, hours, payment (jelkner) | 19:45 | |
LibreOrganize idea for CMS (abuchholz) | 19:45 | |
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abuchholz | !remind | 19:58 |
Documenting work, hours, payment (jelkner) | 19:58 | |
LibreOrganize idea for CMS (abuchholz) | 19:58 | |
Improving skills to move forward (nrcerna) | 19:58 | |
abuchholz : amina : @ubuntourist : +jelkner : lelkneralfaro : SITarabuta : nrcerna : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ : wolcen | 20:00 | |
Good afternoon everyone! | 20:00 | |
It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 20:00 | |
This is the agenda for today: | 20:00 | |
Documenting work, hours, payment (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
LibreOrganize idea for CMS (abuchholz) | 20:00 | |
Improving skills to move forward (nrcerna) | 20:00 | |
jelkner | Good afternoon, nrcerna! | 20:00 |
nrcerna | Hello everyone! | 20:00 |
Have a nice day! | 20:00 | |
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abuchholz | Good Afternoon! | 20:00 |
ubuntourist | Hey-ho | 20:00 |
amina | Hello! | 20:00 |
nrcerna | Alright, let's start | 20:01 |
nrcerna | First item: Documenting work, hours, payment | 20:01 |
lelkneralfaro | Hello | 20:01 |
nrcerna | that's you jelkner | 20:01 |
jelkner | i'll keep this *real* short | 20:01 |
jelkner | we have work to do on MSP and CJS | 20:01 |
jelkner | folks are asking | 20:01 |
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jelkner | i am expecting that: | 20:01 |
jelkner | 1. time worked will be entered into BT | 20:02 |
jelkner | 2. I will be billed at our agreed upon hourly rate | 20:02 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:02 |
nrcerna | Great, thanks jelkner | 20:02 |
nrcerna | We're going to do it. | 20:03 |
nrcerna | Next item: LibreOrganize idea for CMS | 20:03 |
nrcerna | abuchholz ;-) | 20:03 |
abuchholz | So I'm sure many of you have heard my new idea. But I'm going to reiterate what I think LibreOrganize needs CMS wise | 20:04 |
abuchholz | I built a porotype using TDD | 20:04 |
jelkner | NICE! | 20:04 |
jelkner | the 3 magic letters ;-) | 20:04 |
abuchholz | Essentially my idea was pages but with the ability to add custom widgets | 20:04 |
abuchholz | These widgets can be text areas, sliders, image gallery's, etc. | 20:05 |
abuchholz | I just want to show it off after the meeting in jitsi and see what people have to say about it before I invest lots of time | 20:05 |
jelkner | awesome | 20:05 |
nrcerna | :-D | 20:05 |
ubuntourist | abuchholz, any particular widget library / framework in mind? | 20:05 |
abuchholz | The first step would be to get it working with django, and eventually maybe implement some javascript | 20:06 |
abuchholz | its not a library/framework | 20:06 |
abuchholz | its kinda like a textarea that creates the box and appends it to the page. | 20:06 |
abuchholz | and then a image gallery that is appended to the page | 20:06 |
abuchholz | I can show everyone on jitsi after the meeting | 20:06 |
ubuntourist | You're getting nrcerna to hand-draw the sliders, then? ;-) | 20:06 |
abuchholz | ACTION done. | 20:06 |
nrcerna | Thanks abuchholz | 20:07 |
abuchholz | Its a little easier to explain using words if that makes sense | 20:07 |
abuchholz | like talking i mean | 20:07 |
ubuntourist | abuchholz, okay. | 20:07 |
ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 20:07 |
nrcerna | next item: Improving skills to move forward | 20:07 |
nrcerna | that's me | 20:08 |
nrcerna | As you may know, I've been close to Agaric's workflow, they shared with me their Leads and Proposals Zulip's channel, | 20:08 |
nrcerna | I can see the way they interact regarding those leads and proposals they send to their customers, Is very fascinating. | 20:08 |
nrcerna | Months ago in a meeting with Clayton, Ben and zOnny, they mentioned that we can collaborate with them in some design, front end, and Drupal (if we are willing to learning) | 20:08 |
jelkner | Agaric is the best example of cooperative love i've ever seen | 20:08 |
jelkner | they live the principles of cooperation | 20:09 |
jelkner | that's really cool | 20:09 |
nrcerna | they're good friends and are trying to help us out by give us projects and some tasks | 20:09 |
nrcerna | so the main thing is that we're learning a lot from them, but it would be great that lelkneralfaro and zOnny could start learning about Drupal | 20:10 |
jelkner | +1 | 20:10 |
jelkner | maybe zOnny first? | 20:10 |
jelkner | since lelkneralfaro is just starting to grok Django | 20:10 |
nrcerna | I know that sometimes is kinda difficult because of time and schedules | 20:10 |
nrcerna | but it would be a great way to get some collaborations with them | 20:11 |
ubuntourist | php.net used to be a great site for quick reference documentation. I haven't checked in ages, but I assume it still is. | 20:11 |
ubuntourist | very useful to zOnny and lelkneralfaro and anyone wanting to customize / understand Drupal a bit, methinks. | 20:11 |
nrcerna | ACTION done | 20:12 |
lelkneralfaro | I've played around a bit with Drupal before (just deployed a simple site locally and messed around with the UI) I'd probably be a lot better now that I have some more programming experience | 20:12 |
nrcerna | great lelkneralfaro | 20:12 |
ubuntourist | (PHP is to Drupal as Python is to Django.) | 20:12 |
jelkner | so this is a really important business discussion | 20:12 |
jelkner | we've been having it for years | 20:12 |
jelkner | the tradeoffs: | 20:13 |
jelkner | 1. being flexible enough to go where the work is | 20:13 |
jelkner | 2. avoiding the trap of spreading ourselves so thin we ain't good at anything | 20:13 |
jelkner | in this case, given what we said about Agraic and all the love they've shown us | 20:14 |
jelkner | i say we should do it | 20:14 |
jelkner | with the aim to support both Django and Drupal | 20:14 |
jelkner | we are going where the work is with trusted cooperators | 20:14 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:14 |
SITarabuta | the thing is | 20:14 |
nrcerna | I think that you can be flexible, they're core product is Drupal but I also see that they are really open to do other things jelkner | 20:14 |
SITarabuta | I don't think partners care what their website is built on | 20:15 |
nrcerna | that's other thing we could learn from them | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | they don't know Drupal or Django | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | they just want it to work | 20:15 |
abuchholz | +1 SITarabuta | 20:15 |
ubuntourist | We may be in a position to educate them in our "country's customs" ;-) i.e. Python / Django. | 20:15 |
jelkner | definitely, SITarabuta | 20:15 |
jelkner | but for us to make it work | 20:15 |
jelkner | *we* have to understand our own teck | 20:15 |
jelkner | tech | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | so just a question | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | what is our issue right now | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | not having enough work | 20:16 |
jelkner | yes | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | or not being able to do work | 20:16 |
jelkner | both | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | hmm | 20:16 |
jelkner | we are kind of caught in the middle | 20:16 |
jelkner | we've been talking about this a lot | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | it really depens | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | depends | 20:16 |
jelkner | we have the skills to do basic websites | 20:16 |
jelkner | that doesn't pay really well | 20:16 |
ubuntourist | Seeing a Drupal module and looking under then hood at the PHP may lead to "That's cool but we could implement that better in Django." | 20:17 |
nrcerna | we need enough hours each month SITarabuta | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | well, I am sure if someone came to us and said let's do this for $100.000 we would do it | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | but the issue is | 20:17 |
jelkner | we are not yet at the place were we can do the kind of custom dev work i hoped would become our bread and butter | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | nobody comes to us with that money | 20:17 |
ubuntourist | +1 | 20:17 |
nrcerna | but basic websites are something easy achievable | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | we don't know that jelkner | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | we haven't even tried! | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | because nobody approached us | 20:17 |
jelkner | SITarabuta, we are trying every day | 20:18 |
jelkner | when will i be able to vote? | 20:18 |
jelkner | until we can deliver things like that | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | That is not custom dev work | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | Wait wait | 20:18 |
jelkner | sure it is | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | I can deliver that tomorrow jelkner | 20:18 |
abuchholz | lol | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | the problem is another one | 20:18 |
nrcerna | I think we need to separate those things jelkner | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | Is it something urgent | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | or can I focus on other parts | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | of LibreOrganize | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | because if it is | 20:19 |
SITarabuta | then you have it tomorrow - seriously | 20:19 |
jelkner | let's talk after | 20:19 |
jelkner | we've made enough points for the record here | 20:19 |
nrcerna | this is an ongoing discussion as jelkner said yesterday | 20:19 |
nrcerna | anyone has anything else? | 20:20 |
nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 20:20 |
nrcerna | thank you everyone! | 20:20 |
jelkner | let's talk on jitsi! | 20:21 |
nrcerna | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning zOnny, lelkneralfaro | 20:21 |
nrcerna | amina | 20:21 |
nrcerna | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning | 20:21 |
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jelkner | lelkneralfaro, would you and samantha want to have breakfast on Saturday? | 23:42 |
jelkner | i need to drop off the altair at kevin's | 23:42 |
lelkneralfaro | sure | 23:42 |
jelkner | and mami needs the car by 11 am | 23:42 |
jelkner | name the place and the time | 23:42 |
jelkner | lelkneralfaro, ask sam first | 23:43 |
jelkner | we have tomorrow | 23:43 |
jelkner | i'll call | 23:43 |
jelkner | ACTION signing off for the evening | 23:43 |
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