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| jelkner | !remind Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) | 09:13 |
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| jelkner | !remind How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email | 09:14 |
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| jelkner | !remind Report back on BCI and throneless meetings | 09:15 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 09:15 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 09:15 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 09:15 | |
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| jelkner | How can I file a MSP feature request? | 09:59 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 09:59 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 09:59 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 09:59 | |
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| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 16:31 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 16:31 | |
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| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 16:31 | |
| nrcerna | !remind Update Operation Agreement | 16:31 |
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| nrcerna | !remind Meeting with Neto | 16:32 |
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| nrcerna | !remind | 16:32 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 16:32 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 16:32 | |
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| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 16:32 | |
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| nrcerna | ACTION AWAY | 16:43 |
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| SITarabuta | !time | 17:39 |
| LittleBrother | 2020-11-12 17:39:01.607013 | 17:39 |
| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 17:39 |
| SITarabuta : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 17:39 | |
| SITarabuta | damnit | 17:40 |
| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 17:40 |
| SITarabuta : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 17:40 | |
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| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 17:45 |
| SITarabuta : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 17:45 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 17:45 | |
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| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 17:47 |
| SITarabuta : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : wolcen : @ChanServ | 17:47 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 17:47 | |
| It's 17:47 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 17:47 | |
| This is the agenda for today: | 17:47 | |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 17:47 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 17:47 | |
| Report back on BCI and throneless meetings (jelkner) | 17:47 | |
| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 17:47 | |
| Update Operation Agreement (nrcerna) | 17:47 | |
| Meeting with Neto (nrcerna) | 17:47 | |
| Have a nice day! | 17:47 | |
| SITarabuta | !remind | 17:48 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 17:48 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 17:48 | |
| Report back on BCI and throneless meetings (jelkner) | 17:48 | |
| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 17:48 | |
| Update Operation Agreement (nrcerna) | 17:48 | |
| Meeting with Neto (nrcerna) | 17:48 | |
| nrcerna | !remind | 19:49 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 19:49 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 19:49 | |
| Report back on BCI and throneless meetings (jelkner) | 19:49 | |
| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 19:49 | |
| Update Operation Agreement (nrcerna) | 19:49 | |
| Meeting with Neto (nrcerna) | 19:49 | |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 19:58 |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 19:58 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 19:58 | |
| Report back on BCI and throneless meetings (jelkner) | 19:58 | |
| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 19:58 | |
| Update Operation Agreement (nrcerna) | 19:58 | |
| Meeting with Neto (nrcerna) | 19:58 | |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, losing track. When's today's meeting? | 19:58 |
| jelkner | you getting senile, my dear friend ;-) | 19:59 |
| jelkner | 4 pm, so nrcerna and i can join show-and-tell | 19:59 |
| jelkner | i'm there now | 19:59 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Always have been. Getting worse. | 19:59 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION goes back to pondering the koans of 8080 machine instructions... | 20:00 |
| nrcerna | jelkner, I guess I wont make it, My car was just crushed | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | I'm doing some calls now, but hopefully I'll be here for our meeting | 20:01 |
| nrcerna | jelkner | 20:01 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, ouch | 20:04 |
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| jelkner | i'm the only one in planning? | 20:50 |
| jelkner | actually the question is why? | 20:50 |
| jelkner | i left show-and-tell in time to check-in there before the meeting | 20:50 |
| jelkner | no one is there | 20:50 |
| nrcerna | sorry jelkner,I'm about to join | 20:50 |
| nrcerna | I couldnt join early | 20:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | I tried to join and the host hadn't started it yet so I couldn't join | 20:51 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, you should be able to be the host | 20:51 |
| jelkner | we need to fix that | 20:51 |
| jelkner | i started it now | 20:51 |
| lelkneralfaro : cedwards : @ubuntourist : SITarabuta : nrcerna : +jelkner : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ | 21:00 | |
| Good afternoon everyone! | 21:00 | |
| It's 21:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 21:00 | |
| This is the agenda for today: | 21:00 | |
| Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) (jelkner) | 21:00 | |
| How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email (jelkner) | 21:00 | |
| Report back on BCI and throneless meetings (jelkner) | 21:00 | |
| How can I file a MSP feature request? (jelkner) | 21:00 | |
| Update Operation Agreement (nrcerna) | 21:00 | |
| Meeting with Neto (nrcerna) | 21:00 | |
| Have a nice day! | 21:00 | |
| nrcerna | Hello everyone! | 21:00 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon! | 21:00 |
| ubuntourist | Hail | 21:00 |
| lelkneralfaro | hi | 21:00 |
| SITarabuta | helloo | 21:00 |
| nrcerna | let's start | 21:01 |
| nrcerna | first item: Update on BT status with Agaric (https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/business-tracker/-/issues/49 and beyond) | 21:01 |
| SITarabuta | has been done | 21:01 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, what was the issue? | 21:01 |
| SITarabuta | and more | 21:01 |
| SITarabuta | well invoice template | 21:01 |
| SITarabuta | being weird | 21:01 |
| SITarabuta | they broke it | 21:01 |
| nrcerna | I guess that was the same issue that I mentioned that I have in my local SITarabuta | 21:02 |
| nrcerna | when I tried to generate the invoice | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | yeah | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | so now | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | there is a button to automatically use the default template | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | also, when business tracker is first run | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | if no template is added | 21:02 |
| nrcerna | That's nice | 21:02 |
| SITarabuta | it will automatically copy over the default one and use that one | 21:02 |
| jelkner | great | 21:02 |
| nrcerna | thanks SITarabuta | 21:02 |
| jelkner | this was my point earlier | 21:03 |
| SITarabuta | and i also fixed some other bugs because why not | 21:03 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 21:03 |
| jelkner | you often don't realize the sore spots in an application until people actually use it | 21:03 |
| jelkner | great, i was just in the show-and-tell | 21:03 |
| jelkner | and mentioned that we are really eager to be able to tell the story | 21:03 |
| jelkner | about how we wrote a business application that a fellow co-op and us are both using for invoicing | 21:04 |
| jelkner | so to be continued | 21:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 21:04 |
| nrcerna | next item: How (and who) to respond to Gallaudet invoice email | 21:04 |
| jelkner | i put this on the agenda | 21:04 |
| jelkner | but we need to figure this out | 21:04 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, lelkneralfaro, it related to the crucial discussion we were just having | 21:05 |
| nrcerna | yeah we were talking about this with zOnny | 21:05 |
| jelkner | we are a really small organization | 21:05 |
| nrcerna | and lelkneralfaro | 21:05 |
| jelkner | struggling to survive | 21:05 |
| jelkner | we identified earlier the need for "lucky member 7" | 21:05 |
| jelkner | but we don't have that | 21:05 |
| jelkner | so we need to have good customer service | 21:06 |
| jelkner | we can't make this hit or miss | 21:06 |
| jelkner | i think one person should be primarily responsible | 21:06 |
| jelkner | and i think nrcerna is the only one who makes sense | 21:06 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist pointed out that Gallaudet is not going to understand dealing with many people | 21:07 |
| jelkner | anyway, i leave it up to you all | 21:07 |
| jelkner | but those are my thoughts | 21:07 |
| jelkner | in the mean time | 21:07 |
| nrcerna | but jelkner the one who sent an invoice last time to them was zOnny | 21:07 |
| nrcerna | I think that we should be consistent | 21:07 |
| jelkner | fair enough | 21:07 |
| jelkner | but don't leave it hanging | 21:07 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 21:08 |
| ubuntourist | This is where I'd hoped generic e-mail addresses -- both in the sending, replying and advertising would ease some of that "who". | 21:08 |
| SITarabuta | ^^^^^ | 21:08 |
| jelkner | unless who turns out to be no one, ubuntourist | 21:08 |
| jelkner | each one point to their left saying "i thought you were going to do it" | 21:08 |
| ubuntourist | Behind the scenes it can be one person, but training partners to see ONE e-mail address and get responses from the same would help. | 21:08 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, that's a good idea | 21:09 |
| jelkner | +1 | 21:09 |
| SITarabuta | billing@novawebdevelopment.org or partner.service@novawebdevelopment.org | 21:09 |
| SITarabuta | both of which | 21:09 |
| SITarabuta | we do have | 21:09 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, if it's an alias for a single individual, I'd hope they'd know it didn't go to anyone else. | 21:09 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, we probably want someone else to see it | 21:10 |
| jelkner | as a back up | 21:10 |
| jelkner | i'm bring this up now because i received the email | 21:10 |
| ubuntourist | So, if, for now, billing only goes to one person, when the responsibility shifts, changing the forwarding to another person masks the "Who do I write to NOW?" problem. | 21:10 |
| jelkner | otherwise things might get lost | 21:10 |
| jelkner | which would be really bad | 21:10 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, =1 | 21:10 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, +1 | 21:10 |
| jelkner | ok, nrcerna, lelkneralfaro, zOnny, SITarabuta | 21:11 |
| jelkner | you 4 should decide how y'all want this to work | 21:11 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 21:11 |
| ubuntourist | But whomever reasponds needs to remember to respond as billing, not as themselves. | 21:11 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 21:11 |
| SITarabuta | uhm | 21:12 |
| SITarabuta | well i am not handling billing so I wouldn't necessarily want to suggest something that the person who handles it isn't happy with | 21:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | lucky number seven's name should be bill | 21:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | they can take that job | 21:12 |
| jelkner | LoL | 21:12 |
| SITarabuta | Awesome! | 21:12 |
| nrcerna | lol | 21:12 |
| SITarabuta | So, who is that? | 21:12 |
| jelkner | a women named Bill, that's what we're looking for | 21:13 |
| SITarabuta | lol | 21:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, +1 | 21:13 |
| SITarabuta | Ms. Bill is going to help us with billing | 21:13 |
| jelkner | or, better still, billing | 21:13 |
| nrcerna | lol | 21:13 |
| ubuntourist | Billie, perhaps. | 21:13 |
| SITarabuta | Ms. Billing? Now they won't believe that.. | 21:13 |
| jelkner | ok, let's talk about this sunday | 21:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | lol yeah sorry for derailing things there | 21:13 |
| jelkner | we have a long agenda | 21:13 |
| nrcerna | next item: Report back on BCI and throneless meetings | 21:14 |
| SITarabuta | It was a fun derailment; unlike most | 21:14 |
| jelkner | BCI is starting a network of co-ops | 21:14 |
| jelkner | it is just what we've been saying we needed | 21:14 |
| jelkner | first meeting was great | 21:14 |
| jelkner | another in 2 weeks | 21:14 |
| jelkner | josh from throneless and i are on working group #1 | 21:15 |
| jelkner | that led to meeting with them yesterday | 21:15 |
| jelkner | also productive | 21:15 |
| jelkner | i'll keep working on networking with co-ops | 21:15 |
| jelkner | and keep y'all informed | 21:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION done for now | 21:15 |
| nrcerna | Great | 21:16 |
| nrcerna | thanks jelkner | 21:16 |
| nrcerna | next item: How can I file a MSP feature request? | 21:16 |
| jelkner | i can ask after the meeting | 21:16 |
| jelkner | but this is kind of an LO question | 21:16 |
| jelkner | since i have a small change i'd like to request | 21:16 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 21:16 |
| nrcerna | next item:Update Operation Agreement | 21:17 |
| nrcerna | zOnny, lelkneralfaro mentioned this | 21:17 |
| nrcerna | in our morning check-in meeting | 21:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, can say more as he is the one who spoke with the bank | 21:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, but I think the point is that we didn't finish our OA | 21:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, so my name isn't on it and they can't add me as a signer on our bank account | 21:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, or maybe we finished it but it's only visible on codeberg | 21:18 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, we finished writing it | 21:19 |
| jelkner | we didn't submit it | 21:19 |
| zOnny | can someone point me to the OP that includes Louis and Stefan? | 21:19 |
| jelkner | to the right people | 21:19 |
| zOnny | besides codeberg | 21:19 |
| SITarabuta | Maybe we should also have it on GitLab... | 21:19 |
| SITarabuta | or our website | 21:19 |
| jelkner | it's only on codeberg, zOnny | 21:19 |
| SITarabuta | in the static directory | 21:19 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, i don't see how that helps | 21:19 |
| zOnny | the bank doesn't know codeberg | 21:19 |
| jelkner | right, SITarabuta | 21:19 |
| jelkner | zOnny, bank knows gitlab? | 21:20 |
| SITarabuta | LoL | 21:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | the bank is github exclusive | 21:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | they don't touch ANYTHING else | 21:20 |
| ubuntourist | Naturally. | 21:20 |
| SITarabuta | Dangit!~ | 21:20 |
| SITarabuta | https://novawebdevelopment.org/public/ | 21:20 |
| SITarabuta | Check that out. It has stuff | 21:20 |
| SITarabuta | As well as an out of date operating agreement | 21:21 |
| jelkner | let's fix that! | 21:21 |
| nrcerna | on sunday? | 21:21 |
| jelkner | +1 | 21:21 |
| lelkneralfaro | +1 | 21:22 |
| nrcerna | great | 21:22 |
| nrcerna | next item: Meeting with Neto (Cambá) | 21:22 |
| nrcerna | lelkneralfaro and I meet today with Neto in the morning | 21:22 |
| nrcerna | We were seeking for help, he was really open with us, he talked about the way they survived the past years | 21:23 |
| nrcerna | and he shared their marketing strategy in social media, the way they interact with partners | 21:24 |
| nrcerna | Is going to be helpful to move forward next week and the upcoming months | 21:24 |
| nrcerna | lelkneralfaro, you want to add something else? | 21:24 |
| jelkner | excellent, nrcerna, thanks! | 21:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | nrcerna, one thing | 21:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | he just mentioned that it took them a while to get to a place where they were settled and could focus on projects that really fit with their mission/ideology | 21:25 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 21:25 |
| lelkneralfaro | and for years they were making a living taking all jobs they could get | 21:26 |
| nrcerna | yeah, he said that after 10 years, now they're doing projects they like | 21:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | ACTION done | 21:26 |
| jelkner | we need to do that too, lelkneralfaro | 21:26 |
| nrcerna | but it took a looong time to get there | 21:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | nrcerna, +1 | 21:26 |
| jelkner | but we still need to find those "any jobs" | 21:26 |
| jelkner | we're not doing so well with that | 21:26 |
| zOnny | Do we need 9 years more? | 21:26 |
| jelkner | no, zOnny, 19 | 21:26 |
| zOnny | great | 21:27 |
| ubuntourist | [Tick-tock. Tick-tock.] | 21:27 |
| jelkner | sorry, ubuntourist | 21:27 |
| nrcerna | we need to find a way to make a living during the next years, even if that means that we have to do projects that really we dont love | 21:27 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Hey, I don't care. But you like that time limit "thang". ;-) | 21:27 |
| jelkner | i do | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | anything else, anyone? | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | if not... | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 21:28 |
| jelkner | awesome, nrcerna! can we chat a bit on planning? | 21:28 |
| SITarabuta | Alright | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | Thanks everyone | 21:28 |
| jelkner | have a great weekend | 21:28 |
| lelkneralfaro | thank you! | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | have a great weekend | 21:28 |
| lelkneralfaro | bye bye | 21:28 |
| jelkner | see y'all sunday | 21:28 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION continues to divide time betwixt 8080 assembler, and TDD. | 21:28 |
| ubuntourist | later. | 21:28 |
| SITarabuta | Well I just wanted to tell zOnny and other if they want to know | 21:28 |
| nrcerna | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning | 21:28 |
| SITarabuta | the groups thing for AEA | 21:29 |
| SITarabuta | should be done | 21:29 |
| SITarabuta | it is on a different branch | 21:29 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you join us on planning? | 21:29 |
| SITarabuta | in fact, i kind of forgot about it. we had it for 3 weeks | 21:29 |
| zOnny | SITarabuta +1 | 21:29 |
| nrcerna | zOnny, can you join Planning? | 21:31 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the evening | 22:22 |
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