IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2020-12-13

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Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)12:00
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)12:00
ubuntouristACTION yawns at jelkner12:01
jelkner!remind Great website recommended by Micky:
'Great website recommended by Micky:' added to message queue12:01
jelknerACTION yawns back at ubuntourist 12:01
jelknernice, post, btw, ubuntourist!12:01
jelkneri'll turn it into an article for this week12:02
Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)12:02
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)12:02
Great website recommended by Micky: (jelkner)12:02
jelkner!remind Need to think seriously about SchoolTool12:03
'Need to think seriously about SchoolTool' added to message queue12:03
ubuntouristjelkner, which? The "Why do we boot?" or the attempt to help Shushan (and possibly Oscar, since he was CC'd) understand what CP/M is? I'm guessing the former.12:04
jelknerThis morning I was reading "Possible meeting"12:06
ubuntouristAh. That's the shushan one.12:06
ubuntouristShe asked to meet, and also said she didn't understand my reference to CP/M in a former message. So, I elaborated.12:07
ubuntouristThe other was a much shorter thing sent to the entire group about why we "boot" a computer, about the origin of the term.12:08
jelknerWow, Why do we boot is awesome!12:10
jelknerDude, you're creating a complete curriculum12:10
jelknerWe just have to gather these emails, organize, and edit them a bit12:10
jelknerand we have a course12:10
ubuntouristjelkner, I'm more of a writer than a presenter. Put me in a room with five people I don't know and ask me to stand up and speak, I'll pee my pants, faint, and have a panic attack. Put a keyboard in front of me, and, as you well know, I can't shut the fuck up.12:13
ubuntouristjelkner, I just checked out Micky's recommendation and guess what? The git repo for is hosted at... Codeberg.org12:35
jelknercodeberg is on the move12:54
jelknerthey are establishing an open governance process12:54
jelknerturning it into a true community resource12:54
jelknerok, i've just spend all the time i can on this, since i have 5 more classes to prepare lessons for, but here it is:12:55
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Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)15:23
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)15:23
Great website recommended by Micky: (jelkner)15:23
Need to think seriously about SchoolTool (jelkner)15:23
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Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)15:36
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)15:36
Great website recommended by Micky: (jelkner)15:36
Need to think seriously about SchoolTool (jelkner)15:36
SITarabuta!remind LibreOrganize Developer Handbook15:40
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jelknernrcerna, lelkneralfaro can you join SITarabuta, abuchholz, and me on planning?15:56
lelkneralfarothe meeting is starting in 4 min. how about after?15:56
jelknerif you don't like the back channel chatter, we can wait til after the meeting15:56
Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)15:57
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)15:57
Great website recommended by Micky: (jelkner)15:57
Need to think seriously about SchoolTool (jelkner)15:57
LibreOrganize Developer Handbook (SITarabuta)15:57
abuchholz : SITarabuta : lelkneralfaro : nrcerna : +jelkner : @ubuntourist : wolcen : @ChanServ : @mjsir91116:00
Good afternoon everyone!16:00
It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting.16:00
This is the agenda for today:16:00
Holiday schedule changes? (jelkner)16:00
Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info) (jelkner)16:00
Great website recommended by Micky: (jelkner)16:00
Need to think seriously about SchoolTool (jelkner)16:00
LibreOrganize Developer Handbook (SITarabuta)16:00
Have a nice day!16:00
nrcernaHello everyone!16:00
jelknerGood morning!!16:00
lelkneralfarogood morning!16:00
nrcernaLet's start ;-)16:01
jelknerGuten tag16:01
ubuntouristACTION is all Coked up with no place to go! 😉16:01
nrcernafirst item: Holiday schedule changes?16:01
jelknerThis is me.16:02
jelknerI'd like to propose that we cancel the next two Thurday meetings16:02
jelknerbut keep the Sunday ones16:02
ubuntouristCOVID has made holidays obsolete. 😉16:02
SITarabutaubuntourist Argh16:02
jelknerWe are having lelkneralfaro over16:02
jelkneron xmas eve16:02
SITarabutajelkner, you mean 25th and 31st?16:02
jelknerwhich is thurdaay16:02
SITarabutaBecause next two weeks would be 18th and 25th.16:03
SITarabutaOh, ok16:03
jelknermy bad16:03
jelkneri mean 24 and 3116:03
jelknernot next week16:03
SITarabutaOh, correct16:03
jelkneror this week16:03
jelknerwhat to people say?16:03
ubuntouristBah, humbug!16:04
ubuntouristBut other than that... whateva.16:04
SITarabutaWell unless someone is feeling workaholic16:04
abuchholzAll weeks start on Monday not Sunday... America is so flawed ;)16:04
SITarabutaWe can manage to take off16:04
nrcerna+1, We celebrate 24 and 31 here16:04
SITarabutaChristmas Eve ;-)16:04
nrcernanot 25 lol idk why16:04
jelkner25 and 1 are fridays16:05
SITarabutaWe celebrate both!16:05
jelknerwe already have off16:05
jelknerthe question is thursdays16:05
jelkner24 and 3116:05
ubuntouristAxial tilt is the Reason for the Season!16:05
jelknershould we skip them?16:05
SITarabutajelkner, nrcerna agreed and said that would be nice because they celebrate those days16:05
SITarabutawhich translates to16:05
jelkneri'm hoping to make it unanimous16:06
jelknersince zOnny isn't here16:06
nrcernabut if you have something urgent to discuss I'll still reachable 16:06
SITarabutalelkneralfaro votes no because he wants us to work on LibreOrganize ;-)16:06
lelkneralfaroto what SITarabuta says16:06
jelknerok, let's move on16:07
jelknerit carries16:07
nrcernanext item: Brief report on first HTML/CSS study group (Get Victor's contact info16:07
jelknerok, i'll be real brief16:07
jelkner5 of us met yesterday for our 1st class16:07
jelkner2 from Liberia, 3 from Santa Ana16:08
jelknerand oh, me, that is 616:08
jelknerit is going to be a good long term effort in community building16:08
ubuntourist"'e's mathematically challenged, 'e is."16:08
jelkneri'm hoping to work with all 3 Sata Ana folks16:08
jelknernext summer16:09
jelknerthis is also helping isaac get his schools launched16:09
jelknerACTION done16:09
nrcernathey're so excited on learning this16:09
nrcernathank you jelkner 16:09
ubuntouristWhat about the "get victor's contact info" since you made it an agenda item?16:09
jelknernrcerna, i need to email the class16:09
nrcernaOh yeah, I'll ask him16:10
jelknercan you please send me victor's info16:10
jelkneri don't have it16:10
jelknerthanks, ubuntourist, i forgot16:10
nrcernanext item: Great website recommended by Micky: 16:10
ubuntouristThis is a lovely site.16:10
jelknerthat's it, just wanted to share16:11
ubuntouristI've already been spreading it around.16:11
jelknerand get this in the record16:11
jelknerACTION done16:11
ubuntouristAnd, it's hosted on So yay, that.16:11
ubuntouristACTION is done16:11
nrcernaseems nice16:12
nrcernathank you for sharing this16:12
ubuntourist(Not beautiful, but a fantastic resource, and... a git repo that takes suggestions.)16:12
nrcernanext item: Need to think seriously about SchoolToolNeed to think seriously about SchoolTool16:12
jelknerit was written just for designers like you, nrcerna ;-)16:12
jelknerok, this is a big discussion16:12
jelknerto be continued on planning16:12
jelknerbut i'll give the 30,000 foot view here16:13
jelkneri was talking to isaac yesterday16:13
jelknerhe said, "we could get SchoolTool running in 100 schools in Liberia"16:13
jelknerthen i realized we at least need to have an idea on what we should be recommending to him in this regard16:14
jelknerso we need to think that through carefully16:14
ubuntourist"What you mean 'we'?" 😉16:14
jelknerubuntourist, you may want to join that conversation on planning if you have time16:14
jelkneri mean we16:14
jelknerbut you should include yourself too16:14
jelknerACTION done16:15
SITarabutaubuntourist ;-)16:15
ubuntouristACTION will join planning post-IRC. Walk or chew bubble gum. Pick a side. 😉16:16
jelkneryes, post irc16:16
jelknerlet's move on16:16
nrcernanext item: LibreOrganize Developer Handbook16:16
ubuntouristMarkdown's easier but reStructuredText is prettier.16:17
SITarabutaWell I was thinking about this16:18
SITarabutaI worked a bit on it, made a layout16:18
SITarabutabut I think it would be very useful16:18
SITarabutanow that our developer team is expand16:18
SITarabutaand probably as interns or other people join in the future16:18
jelknerSITarabuta, having lelkneralfaro be a beta tester would be ideal16:18
SITarabutaGood to serve as a styleguide / handbook, etc.16:18
jelknerperhaps we can coax conor too16:18
SITarabutaYes jelkner16:18
SITarabutaRight. I hope to get the whole thing done16:19
lelkneralfarofor sure16:19
SITarabutaBy LibreOrganize's birthday16:19
SITarabutawhich is coming up ;-)16:19
ubuntouristACTION will probably make a stab at reviewing it, at the very least.16:19
jelknerwhat is the date?16:19
jelkneri need to add that to my calendar16:19
SITarabutaOne second16:19
jelknerbtw. jelkner spoke with abuchholz and SITarabuta about following up with Noah16:20
jelknerSITarabuta, do you have a day?16:20
SITarabutaThere we go16:20
SITarabuta"Initial commit"16:20
SITarabutaHow classic16:20
SITarabutaso that's it. ;-)16:21
SITarabutaACTION done16:21
ubuntouristIteration... Hour? Minute? Second? nanosecond? (Birth weight? Length? Gender?) Inquiring minds want to know. 😉16:21
SITarabutagit probably has a tool for that ;-)  ubuntourist16:21
ubuntouristNo doubt.16:21
SITarabutaBut the baby's weight is less than Tendenci's weight16:22
jelknerand we want to keep it that way!16:22
ubuntouristSITarabuta,  😉16:22
SITarabutaDon't feed the baby!16:22
ubuntouristSITarabuta, Wait, are you talking about Trump now? 😉16:22
nrcernaanything else to add?16:22
SITarabutaubuntourist That would be T**** ;-)16:23
jelkneryes, ubuntourist, watch your language16:23
ubuntouristACTION has come undone. 😉16:23
SITarabutaCan't use such a scary name - brings flashbacks16:24
ubuntouristGoing back briefly to an earlier topic of the meeting:16:24
ubuntouristSort of.16:24
jelkneron planning, ubuntourist 16:24
jelknerlet's move to planning16:24
nrcernaACTION Drops the bag of gravel16:24
ubuntouristI attended the IEEE SA OPEN 4.5 hour16:24
nrcernathank you everyone16:24
ubuntouristjelkner, then you'll mute while I finish that thought?16:25
jelknerwhatever you say, ubuntourist 16:25
jelknerlelkneralfaro, we are waiting for you16:27
lelkneralfarogot it16:28
nrcernajelkner, still on planning?18:21
nrcernaI'm sorry I had an issue18:21
nrcernathat's why it took so looong18:21
jelknerno, but i am in my virtual classroom18:21
nrcernau want me to catch up?18:21
jelkneri have newer news18:22
jelknerand you and i need to be on the same page at least18:22
jelknerare you coming now?18:23
jelkneri've got soooooo much to do today!18:23
jelknerif you can come now, great18:23
jelknerotherwise, let's talk later in the week18:24
nrcernai can now18:24
nrcernaACTION AWAY19:39
jelknerACTION signs off for the day20:33

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