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| jelknet | I'll see if this is in the log tomorrow. | 01:04 |
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| scooper | Good morning Jeff | 10:15 |
| jelkner | Good morning scooper | 10:15 |
| scooper | Is there a problem??? | 10:15 |
| jelkner | Not that I know of. | 10:16 |
| jelkner | Good morning tboimah | 10:16 |
| tboimah | I am fine and you. | 10:16 |
| jelkner | Great to see we have a working connection today. | 10:17 |
| tboimah | sure | 10:17 |
| scooper | My Boss told me yesterday that you said you are disappointed | 10:17 |
| jelkner | The Supe? | 10:17 |
| scooper | Yes sir, concerning the mail you send him | 10:17 |
| jelkner | We may have some miscommunication going on. | 10:18 |
| jelkner | I'll look at that email, but I don't recall saying I was disappointed. | 10:18 |
| jelkner | I may have said I was disappointed I didn't hear back by Thursday. | 10:18 |
| scooper | Or my response was not in line with what you expected. More beside I told you that the Sup was busy attending to the Four HIgh School graduation program | 10:19 |
| jelkner | My situation here is that I'm trying to organize a group of volunteers to help develop a student information system for MCSS | 10:19 |
| jelkner | Yes, like I said, a communication challenge. | 10:20 |
| scooper | which have to do with signing a thousand plus Diploma for graduates | 10:20 |
| jelkner | Many, many challenges stem from not getting information where it needs to be when it needs to be there. | 10:20 |
| jelkner | All I really wanted to hear from the Supe was whether out plan to develop an attendance system as a first step would be useful to him. | 10:21 |
| jelkner | And then whether y'all think you could find a few teachers who could help us test it as we develop it. | 10:22 |
| jelkner | I saw a few emails that I haven't read yet. | 10:22 |
| scooper | The Sup will reply you in the shortest possible time. Is just that he been really busy, due to that he was not reporting to work these few day | 10:22 |
| jelkner | I was planning on reading those emails this morning before we meet. | 10:23 |
| scooper | My mail I send you??? | 10:23 |
| jelkner | I don't know, scooper, I had back-to-school night and a lot going on at work, so i'm behind | 10:24 |
| jelkner | i just have a stack of unread emails | 10:24 |
| jelkner | don't know what they say yet, since i haven't read them ;-) | 10:24 |
| scooper | Ok got you | 10:24 |
| scooper | Can we know our agenda for today?? | 10:25 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 10:26 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 10:26 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss ways to improve reliability of our Internet connection (added by jelkner) | 10:26 |
| jelkner | That is all i put on the agenda so far | 10:26 |
| jelkner | when tboimah and i tried to meet on monday | 10:27 |
| jelkner | it was a disaster | 10:27 |
| jelkner | the connection was so bad we got nothing accomplished | 10:27 |
| tboimah | sure | 10:27 |
| jelkner | while i understand that problems like that will occur | 10:27 |
| jelkner | we need to find ways to minimize them | 10:28 |
| jelkner | the difference between success and failure of our project is the rate at which small things fail | 10:28 |
| jelkner | so, i'm looking for advice | 10:29 |
| jelkner | if it is likely that when we try to meet outside of saturday morning it won't work, then we can't do it | 10:29 |
| jelkner | if we can find a more reliable way to communicate, then i would like to try that again | 10:29 |
| scooper | I send you a mail the last day Mr. COle conducted a class, that was before your departure for the conference. it include solution on our internet problem | 10:30 |
| jelkner | so the main thing i wanted this morning was your thoughts on that | 10:30 |
| jelkner | remind me of what that is? | 10:30 |
| scooper | I was recommending Litelco as our next ISA, but we need to watch our spending | 10:31 |
| scooper | ISP | 10:31 |
| scooper | So in the mean time let us use the office internet which happen to be Lonestar | 10:32 |
| jelkner | Interesting: https://www.independentprobe.com/we-did-not-licensed-litelco-to-eradicate-orange-lr-and-lonestarcell-mtn-lta-boss-dismisses-public-perceptions/ | 10:33 |
| scooper | But due tot he SUp engagement this gone time with graduation activites that was the main reason we were unable to recharge. Due to that I have to take the initial to recharge what you left with me | 10:33 |
| scooper | *initiative | 10:34 |
| jelkner | scooper: i am sending you $650.00 per month | 10:35 |
| jelkner | i can't send more than that, but my advice is that you all work together to figure out how best to utilize that resource | 10:35 |
| jelkner | it's a management problem you have to solve | 10:35 |
| jelkner | we are on a journey which i hope will result in the mcss websters being able to generate revenue by working on paid work | 10:36 |
| jelkner | they are probably 2 years away from that | 10:36 |
| jelkner | 2 years is an estimate based on my experience teaching this material for 20+ years | 10:37 |
| jelkner | but it's still just an estimate | 10:37 |
| jelkner | anyway, i suggest you all figure out how to use some of that resource to make sure you have internet | 10:37 |
| jelkner | if you don't have internet, it will be much harder for you to learn | 10:37 |
| jelkner | and we won't make progress as fast | 10:38 |
| jelkner | but honestly, i leave that up to you | 10:38 |
| scooper | I Understand Mr. Elkner all the students know that the amount given to then is intended for their personal used... In light I have the right to minimix our expense right? and restore reliable and stable internet right with in this amount | 10:38 |
| jelkner | so, scooper, here is what i am hoping for that | 10:39 |
| jelkner | which is another part of our learning together | 10:39 |
| jelkner | remember, NOVA Web Development is a cooperative | 10:39 |
| scooper | I know | 10:39 |
| jelkner | cooperatives work on a one worker, one vote principle | 10:39 |
| jelkner | learning about that culture is part of our process too | 10:40 |
| jelkner | so, what i am hoping is, we all look together at our available resources ($650 per month) | 10:40 |
| jelkner | and we think about the tasks that need to be done - the personal use that is very important, and the need to continue the study which is the reason we are doing it | 10:41 |
| jelkner | and you together decide what to do | 10:41 |
| scooper | I got you, I will reduce their income and give you reasons, because we need stable internet and electricity | 10:42 |
| jelkner | you are missing my point, scooper | 10:42 |
| jelkner | i would like you to: | 10:43 |
| jelkner | 1. propose what you are going to do to the mcss interns | 10:43 |
| jelkner | 2. ask them to vote to approve it | 10:43 |
| jelkner | if they don't approve it | 10:43 |
| scooper | We been voting before decision are make | 10:43 |
| jelkner | they should have an alternative proposal | 10:43 |
| jelkner | does that make sense | 10:43 |
| jelkner | we figure this stuff out *together* | 10:44 |
| jelkner | we succeed, or fail, together | 10:44 |
| jelkner | so we all have responsibility for both making decisions together and carrying them out | 10:44 |
| jelkner | we are making progress | 10:45 |
| jelkner | everyone is getting much better at using irc | 10:45 |
| jelkner | i see initiative and improvement in typing skills | 10:45 |
| scooper | What I'm about to propose will benefit us greatly.... MOreover they are seeming the challenges we are faced with right now | 10:46 |
| scooper | Because they are aviable every friday for practices | 10:46 |
| jelkner | I really am happy about that, scooper | 10:46 |
| jelkner | they need as much time to just work together as we can arrange | 10:47 |
| jelkner | learning all this takes *a lot* of time | 10:47 |
| jelkner | no way around that | 10:47 |
| scooper | Friday activities is mendatory anyone failed to attend friday class will be punish | 10:47 |
| jelkner | they need to learn keyboarding, unix, vim, and python | 10:47 |
| jelkner | LoL | 10:48 |
| jelkner | My dear friend | 10:48 |
| jelkner | we need to motivate each other, true | 10:48 |
| jelkner | but i prefer carrots to sticks ;-) | 10:48 |
| scooper | This is African | 10:48 |
| jelkner | let's start out with encouragement before we think of punishment | 10:48 |
| scooper | We believe in harsh hands | 10:49 |
| scooper | The money being paid is huge encouragement by itself Jeff | 10:49 |
| jelkner | ok, i think we have talked about this enough for now | 10:50 |
| jelkner | we will only learn what works in practice | 10:50 |
| jelkner | so time to put things in practice | 10:50 |
| jelkner | and discuss them again later when we see how they are working | 10:50 |
| jelkner | i'm still not clear on one thing | 10:51 |
| jelkner | i was hoping to set up a meeting during the week with a team leader for the week | 10:51 |
| scooper | What is it | 10:51 |
| jelkner | the purpose of that meeting would be to focus on the programming part of our study | 10:51 |
| jelkner | i was hoping last monday, for example | 10:51 |
| scooper | Of every month?? | 10:52 |
| jelkner | to meet with thomas and show him how to use pastebin | 10:52 |
| jelkner | and then ask him about his progress on robots | 10:52 |
| scooper | I'm here all because of you my friend | 10:52 |
| scooper | YOu which is my command | 10:52 |
| jelkner | but my question is: can we do that? | 10:53 |
| jelkner | it didn't work | 10:53 |
| jelkner | i don't want to set up a meeting again | 10:53 |
| jelkner | and spend 45 minutes trying to connect | 10:53 |
| jelkner | and not being able to communicate | 10:53 |
| scooper | My passion for technology can make me do anything that you want | 10:53 |
| jelkner | so what can we do? | 10:54 |
| jelkner | right now, we can communicate | 10:54 |
| jelkner | this is good | 10:54 |
| jelkner | on monday, we could not | 10:54 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure why | 10:54 |
| jelkner | so before we plan something like that again | 10:54 |
| jelkner | i want to understand what went wrong | 10:54 |
| scooper | I will do everything possible to restore stable and reliable internet | 10:55 |
| scooper | with the internet here | 10:55 |
| jelkner | ok, that sounds good | 10:55 |
| scooper | You mean Monday when THomas was unable to connect?? | 10:55 |
| jelkner | yes | 10:55 |
| jelkner | we spent 45 minutes connecting disconnecting | 10:56 |
| jelkner | we could not communicate | 10:56 |
| jelkner | hold on | 10:56 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2022-09-26.log.html\ | 10:56 |
| jelkner | if you read that log, you'll see what i was talking about | 10:58 |
| jelkner | anyway, enough about that for now | 10:58 |
| jelkner | we have a good connection now | 10:59 |
| scooper | It was due to the internet, like I said the office internet is down he was using my internet that you left with me. But the internet I have, signal strength keep droping every time I bring it in the MCSS Building | 10:59 |
| jelkner | i understand, scooper | 10:59 |
| scooper | That is because we I not many connected right now | 10:59 |
| jelkner | ? | 10:59 |
| scooper | That is because we are not many connected right now | 10:59 |
| jelkner | oh yes, during the week | 10:59 |
| jelkner | all the office staff | 11:00 |
| jelkner | yes, yes | 11:00 |
| jelkner | so, we have a learned lesson | 11:00 |
| scooper | I sure you have that experience when you were here | 11:00 |
| jelkner | don't schedule class meetings when the office staff is there | 11:00 |
| scooper | NO they leave by 4:00pm | 11:01 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll leave you all to figure that out | 11:01 |
| scooper | I will stay back up to 6 to accomplish the task for monday, how do you see it | 11:01 |
| jelkner | we have a lot of constraints | 11:02 |
| jelkner | during the week i'm at work | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and often times i have things i have to do | 11:02 |
| jelkner | it may be that we just keep saturday mornings as our time to meet | 11:02 |
| jelkner | and make sure the websters are doing real work on their own during the week | 11:02 |
| jelkner | so they can show their progress | 11:03 |
| jelkner | on saturdays | 11:03 |
| jelkner | so let's move on to that | 11:03 |
| jelkner | tboimah: did you make an account for yourself on pastebin.com? | 11:03 |
| tboimah | yes i did that | 11:03 |
| jelkner | excellent | 11:04 |
| jelkner | why don't we try now | 11:04 |
| jelkner | upload your latest version of robots.py | 11:04 |
| tboimah | but i use my personal email not the novaweb email | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and paste the link here, so i can see it | 11:04 |
| jelkner | using your personal email is fine, tboimah | 11:04 |
| jelkner | we won't see what email you used | 11:05 |
| jelkner | only the url for the paste | 11:05 |
| jelkner | btw. scooper, any word on when the next shipment of laptops will arrive? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | i want to get Jallah a more powerful machine | 11:06 |
| jelkner | also, scooper, my friend James (the other Mr. Cooper) put me in touch with a friend of his here in the states | 11:06 |
| tboimah | that is the problem am not yet know how to use it. | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i'm looking for ways to send small amounts of equipment to you all | 11:07 |
| jelkner | The woman he put me in touch with lives in Chicago | 11:07 |
| scooper | Not to my knowledge Jeff | 11:07 |
| jelkner | which isn't near me, but she has a friend from near me going to Liberia next month | 11:07 |
| jelkner | I want to send several Ubuntu Touch phones | 11:07 |
| jelkner | And perhaps I could send a small laptop for Jallah as well. | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i'll call her later today | 11:08 |
| scooper | ok | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and let you know how that goes. | 11:08 |
| scooper | got you | 11:08 |
| scooper | Will you share with Mr. Zawolo for his input?? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | definitely | 11:09 |
| jelkner | remember, he can just read this log | 11:09 |
| jelkner | everything we put here is available any time | 11:09 |
| jelkner | but i'll send him a link | 11:09 |
| jelkner | good morning freenak! | 11:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION is waiting for tboimah to post his pastebin link... | 11:11 |
| jelkner | good morning jkoleah! | 11:11 |
| tboimah | jeff i said i did not konw how to use pastebin now so how can i send the you link. | 11:11 |
| jelkner | ah yes | 11:12 |
| jelkner | sorry | 11:12 |
| jkoleah | Good morning Jeff, how was your night ? | 11:12 |
| tboimah | okay so can you please teach me that | 11:12 |
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| freenak | good morning jeff | 11:13 |
| jelkner | it's super easy tboimah | 11:13 |
| jelkner | are you logged in? | 11:13 |
| jelkner | once you log in, you'll see a green button that says "+ paste" | 11:14 |
| jkoleah | Jeff,can you please teach me how to run my program when using vim... | 11:14 |
| tboimah | i will be back please | 11:14 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: yes | 11:14 |
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/apcsp/goals/week05.html | 11:15 |
| jelkner | look here, jkoleah | 11:15 |
| jelkner | and follow the instructions on Thursday, September 29th Classwork | 11:15 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: let me know if you get stuck | 11:17 |
| jkoleah | okay | 11:17 |
| jelkner | back to tboimah | 11:18 |
| jelkner | did you login, do you see the + paste green button? | 11:18 |
| jkoleah | But I'm seeing the date that it's the 27th and you said the 29th | 11:18 |
| jelkner | keep looking, jkoleah ;-) | 11:19 |
| jkoleah | okay | 11:19 |
| jelkner | it's on the same page | 11:19 |
| jkoleah | Alright | 11:19 |
| tboimah | sorry am back i go to help scooper to get thing set because the time is approaching. | 11:24 |
| jelkner | tboimah: we have already started | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i already discussed the only agenda item with scooper | 11:25 |
| jelkner | so now we want to move forward | 11:25 |
| tboimah | okay | 11:25 |
| jelkner | moving forward means that you all will share what you've done | 11:25 |
| jelkner | you're going to need pastebin (for now) and later git to do that | 11:25 |
| freenak | alright jeff | 11:30 |
| jelkner | what do you mean, freenak? | 11:31 |
| jelkner | alright what? | 11:31 |
| freenak | What i was saying is that we will create our account on paste bin | 11:32 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:33 |
| jkoleah_ | Jeff, I try running the command but it's telling me that command not found!!! | 11:33 |
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| jelkner | jkoleah_: are you still here? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | looks like 3 of you dropped | 11:34 |
| jelkner | freenak: are you still here? | 11:34 |
| jelkner | is anyone besides me still here? | 11:34 |
| jkoleah_ | I'm here Jeff.. | 11:34 |
| freenak | +1 | 11:35 |
| jelkner | ok, what command did you run | 11:35 |
| jelkner | great freenak | 11:35 |
| jkoleah_ | +1 | 11:35 |
| tboimah_ | Good afternoon Mr. Elkner , during the week I work on the robot problem I make the robot to move along with player and I also work on the collisions of the robot and the player so I am done with challenge 1,2,3,4,5,6,7and 8, I also learn some Unix command like htop, echo, cat, ps, ping, shred,tail,head,whoami, uname and etc I also read on vim and I learn A which means to append text, :wd to save a file and exit, dd to delete a whole line, U to fix | 11:36 |
| tboimah_ | a whole line, % to find a matching and etc, thanks. | 11:36 |
| jkoleah_ | sh install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh | 11:36 |
| freenak | I was install all of the programs on my computer i lost everything that was on my computer | 11:37 |
| jkoleah_ | that's the command that i try running Jeff.. | 11:37 |
| jelkner | so here is where you you need unix skills, jkoleah_ | 11:37 |
| jelkner | so let me explain | 11:37 |
| jelkner | install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh is a file | 11:37 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 11:37 |
| jelkner | specifically, it is a shell script written by my student, Aaron Rabach | 11:38 |
| jelkner | sh is a program (a unix command) | 11:38 |
| jelkner | that runs shell scripts | 11:38 |
| jelkner | i taught you that there were three parts to a unix command | 11:38 |
| jelkner | see https://www.openbookproject.net/tutorials/getdown/unix/lesson1.html | 11:39 |
| jelkner | 1. the command | 11:39 |
| jelkner | 2. options | 11:39 |
| jelkner | 3. arguments | 11:39 |
| jelkner | you don't always have 2 and 3 | 11:39 |
| jelkner | but in this case | 11:39 |
| jelkner | sh is the command | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh is the argument | 11:40 |
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| jelkner | if you type ls | 11:40 |
| jelkner | and you don't see install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh | 11:40 |
| jelkner | then you are not in the same directory with that file | 11:40 |
| jelkner | and sh won't be able to find it | 11:40 |
| jelkner | when you click the link to download it, where does it go? | 11:41 |
| jelkner | for that, you need to think about the file system | 11:41 |
| jelkner | see https://www.openbookproject.net/tutorials/getdown/unix/lesson2.html | 11:41 |
| jelkner | answer: it probably went into the Downloads directory of your home directory | 11:42 |
| jelkner | so you need to *change directory* (using cd) to be in that directory | 11:42 |
| jelkner | before you can run sh with install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh as an argument | 11:42 |
| jelkner | do you understand, jkoleah_? | 11:43 |
| jelkner | Good morning scooper | 11:45 |
| jelkner | Ops,. svaye ;-) | 11:45 |
| jelkner | tab completion messed me up there | 11:45 |
| jelkner | i said good morning to scooper a long time ago | 11:45 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 11:46 |
| jelkner | Good morning mulbah! | 11:48 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 11:48 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon, Shallon. | 11:49 |
| jelkner | Wait, you have 11 more minutes of morning | 11:49 |
| jelkner | So good morning | 11:49 |
| jelkner | i have 4 more hours of morning | 11:49 |
| svaye | should we submit our work | 11:56 |
| jelkner | svaye: the goal is for one of you (we don't need all of you, since you are supposed to be working together) | 11:57 |
| mulbah | For the pass days i have been working on challenge 8 but form the meating yestday i was able to over come it and now i'm on challenge 9 but i promise next week i will over come enough challeng that i can and not forgeting i also read my vimtutor and pratics my unix command i understoodd that you can use x to delete the character under the cursor and dd to delete whole line and also use u to undo it. on my unix command i learn some basic command like | 11:57 |
| mulbah | the last, who, ps and whoami command. Thanks | 11:57 |
| jelkner | to upload your latest version of robots.py | 11:57 |
| jelkner | and to paste the link here | 11:57 |
| jelkner | so we can all see the code | 11:57 |
| jelkner | jkoleah_: the links where broken in the page i sent | 11:58 |
| jelkner | i just fixed them | 11:58 |
| jelkner | now you can download install_vim_fugitive_plugin.sh | 11:59 |
| jelkner | and dot_vimrc | 11:59 |
| jelkner | try it | 11:59 |
| LittleWebster | mulbah : jkoleah_ : jelkner : tboimah_ : scooper : sysadmin : svaye | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | It's 12:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss ways to improve reliability of our Internet connection (added by jelkner) | 12:00 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning all! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | We only have 1 item listed on our agenda | 12:00 |
| jelkner | that's because i was planning on adding more when i met with tboimah_ on monday | 12:00 |
| jelkner | but we couldn't meet | 12:00 |
| jelkner | since the internet wasn't working | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i talked with scooper earlier this morning | 12:01 |
| jelkner | you should all look at the irc logs to see what we said | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so we addressed that item already | 12:01 |
| janet | Hi jeff | 12:01 |
| jelkner | to sum up, and please, scooper, let me know if i say something you don't think is correct: | 12:02 |
| jelkner | 1. we aren't going to try meetings during the week, since internet is not reliable | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i'll add here that we should use email during the week | 12:02 |
| jelkner | since it is asynchronous and does not depend on two ends having connectivity at the same time | 12:03 |
| jelkner | 2. we will use saturdays for synchronous communication | 12:03 |
| jelkner | do you understand what i am saying? | 12:04 |
| jkoleah_ | but what if I have internet at home ,will I still meed to email you Jeff? | 12:04 |
| dcammue | Good morning Jeff. | 12:04 |
| jelkner | Good morning janet and dcammue | 12:04 |
| jelkner | jkoleah_: i would be most happy to try an experiment with you | 12:05 |
| jelkner | during the week | 12:05 |
| jelkner | if you have internet that you think is reliable | 12:05 |
| jelkner | here is what you should do if you want to try to set that up: | 12:05 |
| dcammue | How was your days through the week and how the family doing there? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | 1. using email and/or Zulip, message me asking me if i am available and suggeting a few times we could meet | 12:06 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 12:06 |
| jelkner | remember, i am *very* busy during the week, so i need to look at my schedule and see if i can spare a few minutes | 12:06 |
| jelkner | then, i'll write / message you back confirming a time | 12:06 |
| jelkner | we should meet here so we get an automatic log which we can all use to study | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i would be most happy to do that | 12:07 |
| jelkner | what i don't want is to spend 45 minutes of my busy day trying to unsuccessfully to communicate | 12:07 |
| jelkner | it is both frustrating and a waste of valuable time to do that | 12:08 |
| jelkner | email would be better in that case | 12:08 |
| jkoleah_ | so I should firstly email you right? | 12:08 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i want to get you all in the habit of using your nova web email anyway | 12:08 |
| jelkner | and checking it | 12:08 |
| jelkner | a good email might read something like this: | 12:08 |
| jelkner | Hi Jeff, Would you be available to meet with me tomorrow? I am available between 1 and 3 pm or 5 and 6 pm Monrovia time. | 12:09 |
| jelkner | Let me know if you can meet and I'll join you on irc. | 12:09 |
| jelkner | Sincerely, Jallah | 12:10 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 12:10 |
| jelkner | then i'll confirm, and we can meet | 12:10 |
| jelkner | or i might have to say i'm not available and propose another time | 12:10 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 12:11 |
| jelkner | ok, the next thing i need is for you to be able to share your code | 12:11 |
| jelkner | we want to learn to use git | 12:11 |
| jelkner | and to setup accounts on codeberg.org | 12:11 |
| jelkner | but we should first use pastebin | 12:12 |
| jelkner | pastebin.com | 12:12 |
| jkoleah_ | which code is that Jeff? | 12:12 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 12:12 |
| jelkner | jkoleah_: the long term goal is for you to become software developers, right? | 12:12 |
| tboimah_ | jeff i have place the program on pestebin so how can i send it. | 12:12 |
| jelkner | software developers develop software ;-) | 12:12 |
| jelkner | so the code we will be sharing is the software we will be learning to develop | 12:13 |
| jkoleah_ | okay | 12:13 |
| jelkner | "code" is another word for software | 12:13 |
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| jelkner | tboimah_: cool | 12:13 |
| jelkner | let me look back at that | 12:14 |
| jelkner | so you pasted your "code" in the "New Paste" input, yes? | 12:14 |
| jelkner | if you did, you simply click "Create New Paste" | 12:15 |
| jelkner | and you should get back a url you can share with us here | 12:15 |
| jelkner | which will let us all see your code | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so while we wait for tboimah_ to do that | 12:16 |
| tboimah_ | yeah i when to create new paste and i put novaweb there | 12:16 |
| tboimah_ | dose it right | 12:17 |
| jelkner | sweet | 12:17 |
| jelkner | the Paste Name / Title should be something like "Robots Challenge 8" | 12:17 |
| jelkner | anyway, give us a link | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and we will be done with that task | 12:18 |
| tboimah_ | after doing that what next? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | paste the url here | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so we can click on it | 12:18 |
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| tboimah_ | how can i paste it here | 12:19 |
| jelkner | ok, i just did a test | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i named it "Test for Thomas" | 12:20 |
| sysadmin | I have just created an account on Pastebin so how can I share my work | 12:20 |
| jelkner | after i submitted it, i see it in the list of "My Pastes" in the upper right corner | 12:21 |
| jelkner | Actually, it already had the url in the address bar of the browser | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i copy that | 12:22 |
| jelkner | https://pastebin.com/vNcXiWAQ | 12:22 |
| jelkner | and paste it here | 12:22 |
| jelkner | control-c to copy | 12:22 |
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| jelkner | control-v to paste | 12:22 |
| jelkner | Ok, let's do this | 12:23 |
| jelkner | I have a lot of work to do today | 12:23 |
| jelkner | and i've been here with scooper since 6:15 am my time | 12:23 |
| tboimah_ | https://pastebin.com/WHJb62SP | 12:23 |
| jelkner | perfect, tboimah_! | 12:24 |
| jelkner | success | 12:24 |
| jelkner | where is scooper? | 12:24 |
| tboimah_ | he when out for something | 12:24 |
| jelkner | it is important that he hear (see actually ;-) | 12:24 |
| jelkner | what i am about to say (write, actually ;-) | 12:25 |
| jelkner | Spencer is doing all he can to help you all move forward | 12:25 |
| jkoleah_ | Jef, i'm creating my account on pastebin but it's telling me add website URL.. | 12:25 |
| jelkner | including having you come in on Fridays | 12:25 |
| scooper | Yes, Jeff | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you can look in the logs to see what we discussed before you came | 12:26 |
| dcammue | Jeff, I already did that last week so I have a pastebin account. | 12:26 |
| jelkner | but i agree with scooper that attendance should be required | 12:26 |
| jelkner | in fact, it should be part of you receiving your pay | 12:26 |
| jelkner | since if you don't show up to work, you don't get paid for that day | 12:26 |
| scooper | I'm following you | 12:27 |
| jelkner | perhaps, scooper, you take the pay of the websters who don't show up on a given day | 12:27 |
| jelkner | and use that together to purchase things like internet credits | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i'll leave that all up to you | 12:28 |
| jelkner | but we need to work together to move forward | 12:28 |
| scooper | got you sir | 12:28 |
| jelkner | so, here is your assignment, due next Friday at the end of your session: | 12:28 |
| jelkner | together you will decide who will share your latest version of robots.py | 12:29 |
| jelkner | you will put it in pastebin, and paste the link here in our irc chat | 12:29 |
| jelkner | you should also post questions you have about what to do next | 12:29 |
| jelkner | when i wake up *early* saturday morning, i'll look at the irc log, see your code and your questions | 12:30 |
| jelkner | and prepare our discussion of python for that day based on them | 12:30 |
| jkoleah_ | Jeff, I've created my account on pastebin... | 12:30 |
| jelkner | questions about what i just wrote? | 12:31 |
| jelkner | since i don't see any questions, does that mean you all understand? (confirm with +1 if you do) | 12:32 |
| scooper | thomas | 12:32 |
| jkoleah_ | tboimah | 12:32 |
| dcammue | + | 12:32 |
| jelkner | you're missing a 1, dcammue | 12:33 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:33 |
| scooper | Thomas will take the lead for now, because he is the President for the class | 12:33 |
| dcammue | =1 | 12:33 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:33 |
| scooper | Failure on his part to deliver I will nominate another person | 12:33 |
| jelkner | that's great, but we want a president who governs with the consent, and collaboration, of the governed | 12:33 |
| scooper | Hope that serve you well | 12:34 |
| jelkner | tboimah: do you understand the task? | 12:34 |
| tboimah | +1 | 12:34 |
| jelkner | great | 12:34 |
| jelkner | then i am going to sign off and let you all get to work | 12:34 |
| jelkner | i'll see you next saturday, and am really looking forward to seeing tboimah's pastebin link before class starts | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so we can talk about Python again | 12:35 |
| jelkner | see you all next week! | 12:35 |
| scooper | PLease reply my mail | 12:35 |
| scooper | i send you JEFF | 12:35 |
| jelkner | scooper: which one | 12:36 |
| jelkner | about the internet? | 12:36 |
| jelkner | i read it, but i don't know what you want me to say? | 12:36 |
| scooper | About UoPEOPLE | 12:36 |
| jelkner | oh, when did you send that? | 12:36 |
| scooper | Yesterday SIr | 12:37 |
| jelkner | I see it now. | 12:37 |
| jelkner | Why don't you send the interns off to work together, and you and i can work on that now? | 12:38 |
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| scooper | ok, sir | 12:38 |
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| jelkner | do you see the private message i just sent you? | 12:39 |
| scooper | in my email?? | 12:39 |
| jelkner | my name should appear in the upper left corner of hexchat | 12:39 |
| jelkner | no, here? | 12:39 |
| jelkner | here | 12:39 |
| jelkner | you should see #OFCT | 12:40 |
| jelkner | and #novawebdev below that | 12:40 |
| jelkner | and jelkner below that | 12:40 |
| jelkner | if you click on jelkner | 12:40 |
| jelkner | you'll see a different chat window | 12:40 |
| jelkner | with just you and me in it | 12:40 |
| jelkner | ask mulbah | 12:40 |
| jelkner | he knows how to do that | 12:40 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 12:44 |
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