| scooper | Hello Aaron | 13:16 |
|---|---|---|
| scooper | Happy new year | 13:16 |
| thehedgeh0g | hello scooper, happy new year to you as wek | 13:23 |
| thehedgeh0g | *well | 13:23 |
| thehedgeh0g | I'm very sorry about missing our meeting last thursday, I had an unexpected appointment come up | 13:23 |
| thehedgeh0g | I will try to communicate better if that happens in the future. | 13:23 |
| scooper | I understand bro | 13:23 |
| scooper | So went will we deploy the the mcss website | 13:24 |
| scooper | The are few things you need to understand. | 13:24 |
| scooper | During the vacation I was able to load the site into a django template. that mean we are using Django now for the mcss site. so can we deploy it | 13:25 |
| scooper | If yes when can we done it?? if you are busy right now kindly tell me what time of the day we can better meet online and conclude Aaron?? | 13:27 |
| thehedgeh0g | I am busy right now, but I will be able to deploy it with you at this time on Wednesday. Does that work for you? | 13:39 |
| scooper | Ok I appreciate, I will send you the final template today.. | 13:47 |
| thehedgeh0g | alright, that sounds good. Thank you! | 13:52 |
| jelkner | Hello, scooper! | 14:22 |
| scooper | Hello Jeff | 14:22 |
| scooper | how are you doing today??? | 14:22 |
| jelkner | Class ends in 3 minutes | 14:23 |
| jelkner | I'll chat then... | 14:23 |
| scooper | Ok I m here | 14:23 |
| jelkner | scooper, i'm here | 14:26 |
| jelkner | class is gone | 14:26 |
| jelkner | i've got about 20 minutes | 14:26 |
| jelkner | what do you need from us? | 14:26 |
| jelkner | and i have one thing to share with you. | 14:27 |
| jelkner | i received and email from one of the students from last Summer asking me if they could join our study group | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i emailed them back saying that "We are a democracy. New members can only be added by majority vote of the current members" | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i also said i would bring it up next Saturday | 14:29 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 14:29 |
| scooper | Wow | 14:29 |
| scooper | Who are they if I may ask | 14:29 |
| jelkner | I will privately message you their name | 14:29 |
| jelkner | since i don't want that in the logs | 14:30 |
| jelkner | to respect their privacy | 14:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 14:30 |
| scooper | Ok Jeff | 14:30 |
| scooper | I got you | 14:30 |
| scooper | I you still there | 14:31 |
| scooper | I spoke with Aaron today | 14:31 |
| jelkner | Hello, fkoikoi! | 14:31 |
| fkoikoi | Hi Jeff | 14:31 |
| scooper | He give me the assure that we can complete the work hopefully Wed | 14:31 |
| jelkner | which work, scooper? | 14:31 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, have you registered for class yet? | 14:32 |
| scooper | He give me the assurance that we can complete the work hopefully Wed | 14:32 |
| scooper | the deployment JEff | 14:32 |
| jelkner | ah, the deployment | 14:32 |
| scooper | The migration and the Deployment of the site | 14:32 |
| fkoikoi | not yet Jeff | 14:32 |
| jelkner | scooper, let me just clarify one thing for you. | 14:33 |
| scooper | Ok Jeff | 14:33 |
| jelkner | which will help thehedgeh0g help you get setup | 14:33 |
| jelkner | don't just say "Django" | 14:33 |
| jelkner | that is not enough information for thehedgeh0g | 14:34 |
| jelkner | the MCSS website was built with a particular Django application | 14:34 |
| jelkner | one written by Stephan and Adrian | 14:34 |
| jelkner | called "Libre Organize" | 14:35 |
| jelkner | https://libreorganize.org/ | 14:35 |
| scooper | You told me early about Libre Organize Jeff | 14:35 |
| scooper | I saw but for now I can't handle what Aaron and Stephan did. The were lot of configuration that was done, by them | 14:36 |
| scooper | I even saw guideline that Cole wrote about any person or Developer who is trying to contribute to the project. | 14:37 |
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| jelkner | So I'm not clear what you are proposing. | 14:38 |
| scooper | So what I did like I said early, I did it in a way that will suit me since I m a new baby to Django files structures | 14:39 |
| jelkner | I understand, scooper, that you are a long way from being able to hack on LibreOrganize | 14:39 |
| scooper | My main focus point was to get the site urls working properly in django. | 14:40 |
| jelkner | I think that is the confusion, scooper | 14:41 |
| jelkner | Django is a "web application framework" | 14:41 |
| jelkner | it is not an application | 14:41 |
| jelkner | what that means is that it is a collection of tools (python libraries) for building web applications | 14:42 |
| scooper | Jeff I loading all of the html and css tags in Django framework | 14:42 |
| jelkner | yes, i know | 14:42 |
| jelkner | you can create a simple default application using the scripts that Django comes with | 14:42 |
| jelkner | but that is *not* what you want to do for the MCSS website! | 14:43 |
| jelkner | so we are back to the question: | 14:43 |
| jelkner | static html or LibreOrganize? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | those are our two choices | 14:43 |
| jelkner | scooper, you should continue learning Django by making your own applications | 14:44 |
| jelkner | lots of them | 14:44 |
| jelkner | but not production | 14:44 |
| jelkner | you are not ready for that | 14:44 |
| jelkner | you don't need to hack LibreOrganize to be able to use it | 14:44 |
| jelkner | you just need to be able to edit templates, style them with css, etc. | 14:45 |
| scooper | LibreOrganize have alot of configuration I done think I ready now to handle that stuff. Can I send you the final project today so you can see what was actually done | 14:45 |
| jelkner | so, scooper, thehedgeh0g, antonio, and luke can help you get the MCSS website, which is currently using LibreOrganize, moved to your server | 14:46 |
| jelkner | you will then need to learn to update content, and work on templates in LibreOrganize for any changes you want to make | 14:47 |
| jelkner | so you start with the current site as is | 14:47 |
| jelkner | you don't design one from scratch | 14:47 |
| jelkner | that won't work | 14:48 |
| jelkner | we have to decide among only the following 2 options: | 14:48 |
| jelkner | 1. We create a static website that will allow you to do any design you want using HTML and CSS | 14:48 |
| jelkner | OR | 14:48 |
| jelkner | 2. We stick with the current LibreOrganize site, and you learn to modify it little by little | 14:49 |
| jelkner | Those are your only two choices | 14:49 |
| jelkner | i missunderstood when you called me | 14:49 |
| jelkner | i think i now understand better | 14:49 |
| scooper | When?? | 14:49 |
| jelkner | when we talked a few days ago | 14:50 |
| scooper | Concerning my test??? | 14:50 |
| jelkner | scooper, can we talk on Signal | 14:50 |
| scooper | Yes but when I can home | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i need to go soon, scooper | 14:51 |
| scooper | I will call you | 14:51 |
| jelkner | it has to be now | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i'm at work | 14:51 |
| scooper | I told you before that I use Bernice phone right | 14:51 |
| jelkner | you have 5 minutes | 14:51 |
| jelkner | or tomorrow | 14:51 |
| jelkner | oh, i sent you another phone | 14:51 |
| jelkner | when the Supe gets back you can use that one | 14:52 |
| scooper | I m not around my wife to use her phone | 14:52 |
| jelkner | it has LineageOS on it | 14:52 |
| scooper | I dowloaded the app on her phone | 14:52 |
| jelkner | did you try on your phone? | 14:52 |
| scooper | I will check can recall right now | 14:52 |
| scooper | Yes I did it | 14:52 |
| jelkner | that doesn't work? | 14:52 |
| scooper | Yes | 14:53 |
| jelkner | anyway, i need to go | 14:53 |
| jelkner | let's talk again tomorrow | 14:53 |
| jelkner | i have more time then. | 14:53 |
| scooper | My phone has a password at the terminal | 14:53 |
| jelkner | ah yest | 14:53 |
| scooper | By 5pm my time | 14:53 |
| jelkner | let's talk tomorrow at 3:30 pm your time | 14:53 |
| scooper | will be convenient for me, by than I will be home to use Bernice phone | 14:54 |
| jelkner | no, let's just use irc | 14:54 |
| scooper | ok will leave the office by 3:00 | 14:54 |
| jelkner | i have this time available each day | 14:54 |
| scooper | so we can bettter talk | 14:54 |
| jelkner | scooper, the big thing you have to let us know is are we going with plan 1 or 2? | 14:55 |
| jelkner | we can't help you until we know that | 14:55 |
| jelkner | those are the *ONLY* two options | 14:55 |
| jelkner | you need to pick one | 14:55 |
| jelkner | we don't have the time available for anything else | 14:55 |
| scooper | Let do the plan one | 14:55 |
| jelkner | ok, that is much easier | 14:55 |
| jelkner | a static website | 14:55 |
| scooper | Yes Jeff | 14:56 |
| jelkner | ok, we don't need to meet tomorrow | 14:56 |
| scooper | Why | 14:56 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g can set that up on Wednesday | 14:56 |
| jelkner | we don't need any more clarification | 14:56 |
| scooper | He said we both are going to do it together | 14:57 |
| jelkner | scooper, let thehedgeh0g configure the server | 14:57 |
| jelkner | you need to understand how this works | 14:57 |
| jelkner | sysadmins don't "know" how to do this stuff, they "know" how to look up things and read docs online | 14:58 |
| jelkner | you will slow thehedgeh0g down | 14:58 |
| scooper | I m just watching as a watch man that all | 14:58 |
| scooper | Ok I understand | 14:58 |
| jelkner | let them deliver a working server to us | 14:59 |
| jelkner | and then teach us the workflow for updating the website after | 14:59 |
| jelkner | bye | 14:59 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off since students are coming | 14:59 |
| scooper | Thanks | 14:59 |
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