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| jelkner | !agenda | 12:23 |
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| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 12:23 |
| LittleWebster | Work with tmickelson to test screen sharing and mumble. (added by jelkner) | 12:23 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss question mulbah sent jelkner about assigned projects and expectations. (added by jelkner) | 12:23 |
| jelkner | Good day scooper and jkoleah | 12:25 |
| jkoleah | good morning Jeff | 12:25 |
| scooper | morning Jallah | 12:25 |
| jelkner | Are you both at the MCSS office? | 12:26 |
| scooper | good morning Jeff | 12:26 |
| jkoleah | How are you doing Spencer | 12:26 |
| jelkner | oh, I guess not ;-) | 12:26 |
| jkoleah | yes | 12:26 |
| jelkner | since you are greeting each other here | 12:26 |
| scooper | I m here with the other but Jallah is not around | 12:26 |
| jelkner | got you | 12:26 |
| jelkner | scooper is mulbah there? | 12:27 |
| jkoleah | yeah, because I have some work to do at home | 12:27 |
| scooper | yes | 12:27 |
| jelkner | Good day fkoikoi and mulbah | 12:27 |
| fkoikoi | Morning Jeff | 12:27 |
| jelkner | mulbah: were you able to ssh into the student server? | 12:27 |
| mulbah | how are you doing jeff | 12:27 |
| jelkner | Good day svaye and tboimah | 12:28 |
| jelkner | and dcammue | 12:28 |
| mulbah | no | 12:28 |
| jelkner | oh, and janet | 12:28 |
| jelkner | mulbah: why? | 12:28 |
| dcammue | good morning Jeff | 12:28 |
| svaye | Good day Jeff | 12:28 |
| jelkner | let's work on that first | 12:28 |
| tboimah | I'm fire and you? | 12:28 |
| mulbah | okay | 12:28 |
| tboimah | fine | 12:28 |
| dcammue | how was your week? | 12:28 |
| jelkner | busy, dcammue | 12:29 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:29 |
| jelkner | who among you is the most interested in learning system administration? | 12:29 |
| jelkner | and first, who knows what that means? | 12:29 |
| mulbah | I'm | 12:30 |
| tboimah | I am interesting in it | 12:30 |
| jelkner | so mulbah and tboimah | 12:30 |
| dcammue | +1 I to, but I don't have idea on that yet | 12:30 |
| svaye | System administrators are people with in the field that manage all the data | 12:31 |
| jelkner | take a few mintues, dcammue to look up "System Administration" on wikipedia | 12:31 |
| dcammue | okay | 12:31 |
| fkoikoi | and they also manages both software and hardware | 12:32 |
| jelkner | svaye: there is a difference between database administrators, who are really the folks "with all the data" | 12:32 |
| jelkner | and *System* administrators, who, as the name suggests, administer systems. | 12:32 |
| jelkner | a system administrator would be the people who learn to manage the computer operating system, and to keep it running | 12:33 |
| jelkner | on this side of the pound (as the British say), we have three people this year | 12:34 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g, tmickelson, and jamethiel. | 12:34 |
| jelkner | jametheil isn't connected at this point with our project here, but she manages the servers in my classroom | 12:35 |
| jelkner | we need to get a few of you focused on that | 12:35 |
| svaye | system administrators manages one or more systems,software, hardware,servers or workstation | 12:35 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye | 12:35 |
| jelkner | in our case at the moment, we need one or two of you who are interested in that | 12:36 |
| jelkner | bascally, we are looking for people who like playing with the machines | 12:36 |
| jelkner | installing operating systems | 12:36 |
| svaye | they ensure the system is running efficiently and effectively | 12:36 |
| jkoleah | okay, Jeff | 12:36 |
| dcammue | system administrators are those people who take care of troubleshoot, support, and maintain computer servers and networks. | 12:36 |
| jelkner | yes, svaye, and i our case, we will be experimenting with new things all the time | 12:37 |
| jelkner | exactly, dcammue | 12:37 |
| dcammue | +1 I want to be | 12:37 |
| jelkner | these days even a medium size organization may have a separate person who focuses on the network | 12:38 |
| svaye | I am interested | 12:38 |
| jelkner | they are called a Network Administrator | 12:38 |
| jelkner | i'm going to leave it up to you all to tell me who is doing what | 12:38 |
| jelkner | but i will describe what needs to be done | 12:38 |
| jkoleah | I'm interested in that Jeff | 12:38 |
| jelkner | my hunch is no one is really attending to the lab since i left | 12:39 |
| jelkner | updating the software at the very least | 12:39 |
| jelkner | i sent a few more phones with the Supe | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we could use someone there who could figure out how to flash them with new operating systems | 12:40 |
| jkoleah | okay | 12:40 |
| jelkner | we have been making good progress, but i am always thinking about what the next steps are | 12:40 |
| jelkner | so yesterday, for example, i asked Toby if he would be interested in exploring two things: | 12:41 |
| jelkner | 1. How to remotely share a terminal session so we could work together between Monrovia and Arlington | 12:42 |
| jelkner | 2. How to set up voice communication so we could talk instead of type when our bandwidth is cooperating | 12:42 |
| jelkner | Toby said, "yes, I'm interested in that" | 12:42 |
| jelkner | and I asked him to take charge of it | 12:42 |
| jelkner | He should be joining us in a few minutes to let us know what he found out, and hopefully to test out some of the tech | 12:43 |
| jelkner | we need folks at your location to be able to do the same thing | 12:43 |
| jelkner | and to coordinate directly with tmickelson and thehedgeh0g to install, configure, test, and then teach us to use things when they are working | 12:44 |
| jelkner | btw. My friend Sahnun is not feeling well, so he was not able to join us today as previously planned | 12:45 |
| jelkner | we will reschedule that at a later time | 12:45 |
| jelkner | So here is the first task: | 12:46 |
| mulbah | Tell he sorry for me | 12:46 |
| jelkner | I will, mulbah, thanks | 12:46 |
| dcammue | say sorry to him for me Jeff. | 12:46 |
| jelkner | Get to know the machines in the lab | 12:46 |
| jelkner | how much ram do they have? | 12:46 |
| jelkner | which one has the fastest processor | 12:46 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:46 |
| jelkner | which one has the biggest hard drive? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | which one has the best sound system? | 12:47 |
| jelkner | scooper has a spreadsheet with a list of specs | 12:47 |
| jelkner | take a look at it and ask questions about things you don't understand | 12:48 |
| jelkner | When Superintendent Zawolo was here we got to talk about our plans. | 12:49 |
| jelkner | He made it clear to me that he sees the lab you are working in as mainly for the use of your learning. | 12:49 |
| jelkner | We have his OK to use the machines in the way I am describing | 12:50 |
| jelkner | You can learn to manage them. | 12:50 |
| jelkner | I want you to learn to manage them. | 12:50 |
| jelkner | Questions about this? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | And while we are waiting for questions, fkoikoi and jkoleah are you in your first class at UoPeople? | 12:51 |
| jelkner | Classes started Thursday | 12:51 |
| jelkner | I have to work all day after we finish here on my assignments for the first week. | 12:51 |
| jkoleah | yes Jeff | 12:51 |
| jelkner | Great! | 12:52 |
| jkoleah | the courses are so awesome and great Jeff | 12:52 |
| jelkner | glad to hear that, jkoleah | 12:52 |
| fkoikoi | yes Jeff, we started on Thursday | 12:52 |
| jelkner | we can talk more about it at another time | 12:52 |
| jkoleah | I've already started working on my assignment | 12:52 |
| jelkner | good, jkoleah | 12:53 |
| jelkner | stay on top of it | 12:53 |
| jelkner | you can't hand in assignments late | 12:53 |
| jkoleah | yes Jeff | 12:53 |
| jelkner | so you need to keep up with them | 12:53 |
| jkoleah | sure | 12:53 |
| fkoikoi | that's right | 12:53 |
| jelkner | it's nice to be in school with you two, jkoleah and fkoikoi | 12:54 |
| jelkner | since we're in the same school, we have the same schedule | 12:54 |
| jelkner | Good morning tmickelson | 12:54 |
| jelkner | Did you get my text? | 12:54 |
| tmickelson | good morning jelkner | 12:54 |
| tmickelson | yes | 12:54 |
| jelkner | great | 12:54 |
| jelkner | everyone, my intention was to go into our school this morning | 12:55 |
| jelkner | where tmickelson is now | 12:55 |
| jelkner | but my wife needed her car | 12:55 |
| jelkner | and i don't have one | 12:55 |
| jelkner | so the bus would have made me late | 12:55 |
| jelkner | and i texted tmickelson to let him know i would be joining from home instead | 12:55 |
| jelkner | ok tmickelson | 12:56 |
| jelkner | what's our plan? | 12:56 |
| mulbah | !agenda | 12:59 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 12:59 |
| LittleWebster | Work with tmickelson to test screen sharing and mumble. (added by jelkner) | 12:59 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss question mulbah sent jelkner about assigned projects and expectations. (added by jelkner) | 12:59 |
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| jelkner | thanks, mulbah | 13:00 |
| mulbah | You welcome | 13:00 |
| jelkner | tmickelson, LittleWebster did not fire | 13:00 |
| jelkner | mulbah had to print out the agenda manually | 13:01 |
| jelkner | but you have the first item | 13:01 |
| tmickelson | what should i start with | 13:01 |
| jelkner | well, we had discussed two goals | 13:02 |
| jelkner | remote terminal sharing | 13:02 |
| jelkner | and mutter | 13:02 |
| jelkner | you can start with whichever you like | 13:02 |
| jelkner | btw. before you came on this morning | 13:03 |
| jelkner | it talked to everyone about the need for them to choose some aspiring system administrators | 13:03 |
| jelkner | who can work with you on projects like these | 13:03 |
| jelkner | we will need them to be testing things on their end | 13:03 |
| jelkner | and they have a whole lab the can use for experiments | 13:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 13:04 |
| tmickelson | who has mutter/mumble installed | 13:04 |
| jkoleah | I'm interested in networking | 13:04 |
| mulbah | I have it installed | 13:05 |
| jelkner | I have it installed | 13:05 |
| tmickelson | connect to students.mcssliberia.org as the server | 13:05 |
| jelkner | tmickelson: i installed the package | 13:05 |
| jelkner | but how do i use it? | 13:06 |
| tmickelson | just open the application i think | 13:06 |
| jelkner | looks like your right | 13:06 |
| jkoleah | are these two the same? | 13:08 |
| tmickelson | yes | 13:08 |
| jelkner | there's a whole bunch of configuration to do | 13:08 |
| jkoleah | okay | 13:08 |
| jelkner | it tests your sound, configures voice recognition, etc. | 13:09 |
| svaye | should we install it too | 13:09 |
| jelkner | so we may need to practice with it during the week | 13:09 |
| jelkner | svaye: +1 | 13:09 |
| jkoleah | how can I use it | 13:10 |
| tmickelson | did you finish the configuration | 13:11 |
| jkoleah | I just open the mumble | 13:12 |
| jkoleah | can you please tell me how to configure that? | 13:13 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: it explains step-by-step | 13:14 |
| jelkner | but there are several steps | 13:14 |
| jkoleah | they're asking for a servername | 13:14 |
| jelkner | i'm connected, and tmickelson is connected | 13:14 |
| jelkner | i only heard a computer generated voice | 13:15 |
| jelkner | maybe that's how it works | 13:15 |
| jelkner | anyway, let's agree to spend at most 30 minutes on this | 13:15 |
| tmickelson | jelkner did you hear me | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i only heard you once tmickelson | 13:16 |
| jelkner | it was a synthesized voice | 13:16 |
| jkoleah | which servername should I use | 13:16 |
| jelkner | students.mcssliberia.org | 13:17 |
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| jkoleah | should I use North America | 13:18 |
| jelkner | No, jkoleah | 13:18 |
| jelkner | We installed the server on students.mcssliberia.org | 13:19 |
| jelkner | that's the one you should use | 13:19 |
| jelkner | it is in Germany | 13:19 |
| jelkner | Monrovia has a much more reliable connection to Germany than to the US | 13:19 |
| jkoleah | so I should login to the student server? | 13:19 |
| jelkner | so we figured if we set up the server there | 13:19 |
| jelkner | we could each connect to it more reliably | 13:20 |
| jelkner | anyway, i can tell already that this will require hours of work to learn and tune | 13:20 |
| jelkner | so i don't think we should try that now | 13:20 |
| jelkner | we got started | 13:20 |
| jelkner | and you can all get a feel for what is involved | 13:21 |
| jelkner | that's why i started this meeting asking who was interested in learning system administration | 13:21 |
| tmickelson | tmate is ready | 13:21 |
| tmickelson | Read only link: ssh ro-4H7UZeGGYnxvt5MVRHwFZtUJF@lon1.tmate.io | 13:21 |
| jelkner | you can decide after the meeting, but i would suggest you choose one person to work with tmickelson | 13:21 |
| jelkner | during the week to learn to use mutter | 13:22 |
| jelkner | ok, next task | 13:22 |
| jelkner | tmickelson has also been working on sharing terminals | 13:22 |
| jelkner | tmickelson: how should we do this? | 13:22 |
| tmickelson | just ssh into the link | 13:23 |
| jelkner | i believe all of us are in one of 4 locations | 13:23 |
| jelkner | ACC, MCSS office, jelkner's home, jkoleah's home | 13:23 |
| jelkner | so one person from each location should try to join the connection | 13:23 |
| jelkner | tmickelson: does that make sense? | 13:23 |
| tmickelson | +1 | 13:23 |
| jelkner | i'm connected | 13:24 |
| jelkner | but all i see is a blank screen | 13:24 |
| jelkner | terminal | 13:24 |
| mulbah | did you writ hello just now jeff | 13:25 |
| mulbah | in the terminal | 13:25 |
| jelkner | with [0] 0:bash* at the bottom | 13:25 |
| jelkner | no, tmickelson did mayby | 13:25 |
| jelkner | but i don't see it | 13:25 |
| tmickelson | try this one | 13:26 |
| tmickelson | ssh ro-7awkHn2rstchTXwU9BZbUyCUn@lon1.tmate.io | 13:26 |
| jelkner | i see it | 13:26 |
| jkoleah | I wasn | 13:26 |
| jelkner | hello | 13:26 |
| jelkner | hi | 13:26 |
| jelkner | LOL | 13:27 |
| jelkner | tmickelson@mcssstudents | 13:27 |
| jelkner | echo hello world | 13:27 |
| mulbah | i saw it | 13:27 |
| jelkner | who else can see it? | 13:27 |
| jelkner | great, that's what we want | 13:27 |
| jelkner | i need to be able to ask you all to do demonstrations | 13:28 |
| jelkner | and i need to be able to watch you type | 13:28 |
| mulbah | but jeff how can i write something for you to see it too | 13:28 |
| jelkner | mulbah: if you are the person the group selects as sys admin | 13:28 |
| jelkner | you'll meet with tmickelson each day for 30 minutes at 2:30 pm your time | 13:29 |
| mulbah | okay | 13:29 |
| jelkner | to learn and practice this | 13:29 |
| jelkner | and then one the two of you have it working well | 13:29 |
| jelkner | you'll come back on another Saturday morning and show the rest of us | 13:29 |
| mulbah | okay jeff | 13:30 |
| jelkner | you'll also create documentation with step-by-step instructions | 13:30 |
| jelkner | which we can test | 13:30 |
| jelkner | maybe another of you who is most advanced in learning HTML could create a web page with the instructions | 13:30 |
| jelkner | that's what we are trying to do here | 13:30 |
| jkoleah | I can do that | 13:31 |
| jelkner | build a learning community in which we collaborate to learn and deploy new tech | 13:31 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: you all should decide and let tmickelson and i know | 13:31 |
| tmickelson | everyone should have a read write ssh link | 13:32 |
| mulbah | is this what you are talking about SHA256:Hthk2T/M/Ivqfk1YYUn5ijC2Att3+UPzD7Rn72P5VWs | 13:33 |
| jkoleah | mine is not going through | 13:33 |
| jelkner | ok, tmickelson and i just did a shared screen edit session | 13:35 |
| jelkner | very cool, but that's enough for today | 13:35 |
| jelkner | tmickelson: thank you very much! | 13:35 |
| jelkner | this was great | 13:35 |
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| jelkner | Don't know what happened | 13:36 |
| jelkner | my connection dropped | 13:36 |
| jelkner | so, let's move on | 13:36 |
| tboimah | my connect dropped | 13:36 |
| tboimah | connection | 13:36 |
| jelkner | me too tboimah | 13:36 |
| dcammue | thank it works for me Tmickelson | 13:37 |
| jelkner | let's move on | 13:37 |
| tmickelson | i think someone typed exit or pressed ^D | 13:37 |
| jelkner | i have UoPeople homework to do! | 13:37 |
| jelkner | i lost my connection to irc, i mean tmickelson | 13:37 |
| jelkner | anyway, let's move on | 13:38 |
| dcammue | okay oo student Jeff. | 13:38 |
| jelkner | so, you all will select someone to coordinate with tmickelson during the week | 13:38 |
| jelkner | and we will continue to develop both the shared terminals and mutter until we can talk and share terminals during class | 13:38 |
| jelkner | smoothly | 13:39 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 13:39 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 13:39 |
| LittleWebster | Work with tmickelson to test screen sharing and mumble. (added by jelkner) | 13:39 |
| LittleWebster | Discuss question mulbah sent jelkner about assigned projects and expectations. (added by jelkner) | 13:39 |
| jelkner | let's talk about the 2nd agenda item | 13:39 |
| tmickelson | i have to go now | 13:39 |
| jelkner | yes, tmickelson thanks! | 13:39 |
| tmickelson | bye | 13:39 |
| jelkner | bye | 13:39 |
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| jelkner | mulbah: can you restate the question you emailed me during the week please? | 13:40 |
| jkoleah | Jeff, can you please check you nowaweb mail | 13:41 |
| mulbah | jeff why are you not giving us project yet that was the question | 13:42 |
| jelkner | great, mulbah, thanks | 13:43 |
| mulbah | you welcome sir | 13:43 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking about how best to answer this question | 13:43 |
| jelkner | my response has two parts | 13:44 |
| jelkner | 1. learning ict skills can be divided into theory and practice | 13:44 |
| jelkner | 2. we will use Head First HTML and CSS for both, and then add real projects as they come up | 13:45 |
| jelkner | mulbah: i am expecting you to take increasingly more initiative as time goes on | 13:45 |
| mulbah | sure | 13:46 |
| jelkner | so, the group of you have a book, and you should be meeting together to read and discuss the ideas (theory) presented in each chapter | 13:46 |
| jelkner | and to do all the exercises and project (the practice) in each | 13:46 |
| jelkner | the book i sent you is an excellent resource for both theory and practice | 13:47 |
| jelkner | then, when we meet on Saturdays, i want to you to show what you did during the previous week | 13:47 |
| jelkner | and then for use to discuss together any questions you have have | 13:48 |
| jelkner | is that clear? | 13:48 |
| jelkner | mulbah: is that clear? did i answer your question? | 13:48 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:49 |
| jelkner | great | 13:49 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: you emailed me a question too | 13:49 |
| jelkner | can you please ask it here? | 13:49 |
| jkoleah | okay, it just that I'm confuse about the budget | 13:51 |
| jelkner | i bet we are *all* confused about the budget, jkoleah ;-) | 13:51 |
| jelkner | i know i am :=( | 13:52 |
| jelkner | i'm joking everyone | 13:52 |
| jelkner | i have some idea how to help frame this discussion, but i don't know how you all want to manage the budget | 13:52 |
| jelkner | to restate what i said last time: | 13:53 |
| jelkner | I am committed to sending $650.00 each month | 13:53 |
| jelkner | You can confirm with scooper that I have been doing that | 13:53 |
| jelkner | I get paid twice a month, on the 1st and the 15th | 13:53 |
| jkoleah | yes of course | 13:53 |
| jelkner | i send the $650.00 after i get paid on the 1st | 13:54 |
| jelkner | when we started this process, we thought we would use it for a stipend for each of you | 13:54 |
| jelkner | but as we have moved forward, we can see how our needs make this not the perfect solution | 13:54 |
| jelkner | if i am going to come back to Monrovia during Summer 2024 | 13:55 |
| jelkner | it will be to start a cooperative business with you | 13:55 |
| jelkner | so we need to learn how to run a business cooperatively | 13:55 |
| jelkner | we need to all learn to think about how to make our shared goals real | 13:56 |
| jelkner | and we no from experience that we have some concrete needs | 13:56 |
| jelkner | 1. we need to continue our education | 13:56 |
| jelkner | 2. we need to have the infrastructure we need to learn | 13:56 |
| jelkner | for 2, we needed a generator and fuel | 13:57 |
| jelkner | and Internet, but MCSS is providing that now reliably it seems | 13:57 |
| jelkner | for 1, we have three of you, fkoikoi, scooper, and jkoleah, who have costs associated with UoPeople | 13:58 |
| jelkner | we need to cover those | 13:58 |
| jelkner | so, i propose that you all learn to think about the monthy budget as your budget to manage together | 13:58 |
| jelkner | and discuss and decide how you use it | 13:58 |
| jelkner | *togther* | 13:59 |
| jelkner | with the understanding that UoPeople and fuel for the generator need to be covered first | 13:59 |
| jelkner | since they are what you call fixed costs | 13:59 |
| jelkner | and we have to pay them | 13:59 |
| jelkner | after that, you decide together to allocate the remaining amount as you all think is best | 14:00 |
| jelkner | do you want to give each person who travels an amount to cover their travel costs? | 14:00 |
| jelkner | do you want to provide meals at the MCSS office for all of you who are there working? | 14:00 |
| jelkner | i'm not going to get involved in that | 14:01 |
| jelkner | since i'm not there | 14:01 |
| jelkner | when i'm there in Summer 2024, i'll vote along with the rest of you (i want coconuts! ;-) | 14:01 |
| jelkner | but for now, its all up to you | 14:01 |
| jelkner | one last thing | 14:01 |
| jelkner | next Summer we will have more people graduated from high school | 14:02 |
| jelkner | my work next Summer is to start Social Justice Computing as a non-profit organization | 14:02 |
| jelkner | so that other folks here in the US can donate funds to help our project | 14:02 |
| jelkner | if that happens, we can increase our budget | 14:02 |
| jelkner | and not be limited to the $650 that i can afford | 14:03 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: did i answer your question? | 14:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 14:03 |
| dcammue | Thanks Jeff, I best understand this now. | 14:03 |
| svaye | Well understood Jeff | 14:04 |
| jelkner | great | 14:04 |
| jelkner | so, we discussed the two agenda items | 14:05 |
| jelkner | anyone have anything else? | 14:05 |
| jelkner | ok, i have my UoPeople assignments to work on | 14:06 |
| jkoleah | what about the mail that you sent to the three of us from the beginning of the year Jeff, has it been cancel ? | 14:06 |
| jelkner | please decide today who will be working with tmickelson this week on our new tech intitiatives | 14:06 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: i don't understand | 14:07 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 14:07 |
| tboimah | Jeff did you check the repo | 14:07 |
| jelkner | no, tboimah i haven't | 14:07 |
| jelkner | do you have anything you want to share with us today? | 14:07 |
| jelkner | that would be a great use of our time | 14:08 |
| jelkner | but you have to drive, tboimah | 14:08 |
| jelkner | let me help you | 14:08 |
| jelkner | you could start out by typing something like, "Hey, everyone, check out what I did last week..." | 14:09 |
| dcammue | please check mine too Jeff. | 14:09 |
| tboimah | https://students.mcssliberia.org/students.html | 14:09 |
| jelkner | and then you paste a link here | 14:09 |
| tboimah | yeah so you can see what is their. | 14:09 |
| jelkner | tboimah: please be more specific | 14:09 |
| jelkner | paste the URL of the page you want us to see here | 14:10 |
| jelkner | I can model what I mean if you all think that would help. | 14:10 |
| jkoleah | okay Jeff, well understood ! | 14:11 |
| jelkner | do you want me to model what i'm asking for? | 14:12 |
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| tboimah_ | yes | 14:12 |
| jelkner | ok, tboimah_ | 14:12 |
| jelkner | here goes | 14:12 |
| jelkner | Hey everyone, I've been working on a new textbook using C++ | 14:13 |
| jelkner | I am hosting it here: | 14:13 |
| jelkner | http://www.openbookproject.net/thinkcs/cpp/ | 14:13 |
| jelkner | and the git repo for it is here: | 14:13 |
| jelkner | https://codeberg.org/OpenBookProject/thinkcscpp | 14:13 |
| jelkner | it is a really exciting project and i'm having a lot of fun with it | 14:14 |
| jelkner | i found the book on a Brazilian University website | 14:14 |
| jelkner | it was orginally created by one of my students back in 2001! | 14:14 |
| jelkner | He lost it. | 14:14 |
| jelkner | And I lost it. | 14:14 |
| jelkner | but some university in Brazil saved it for us! | 14:15 |
| jelkner | Now I am reviving it to use with my students next year. | 14:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 14:15 |
| jelkner | does that give you an idea, tboimah_? | 14:15 |
| jelkner | we could call it "Show and Tell" | 14:15 |
| tboimah_ | +1 | 14:15 |
| jelkner | so anyone want to give that a try? | 14:16 |
| jelkner | share a url | 14:16 |
| jelkner | tell us what you were doing and learning | 14:16 |
| jelkner | and we can talk about it | 14:16 |
| tboimah_ | you told us to put our repo in other by creating a subdir is that right? | 14:17 |
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| jelkner | tboimah_: yes | 14:19 |
| jelkner | why don't you go | 14:19 |
| jelkner | that would be a huge help | 14:19 |
| tboimah_ | but that's what we did Jeff | 14:19 |
| jelkner | paste a link here | 14:19 |
| jelkner | i understand, tboimah_ | 14:19 |
| jelkner | but take us to it | 14:20 |
| jelkner | show us | 14:20 |
| jelkner | by pasting the URL here | 14:20 |
| tboimah_ | https://github.com/tboimah/website | 14:20 |
| jelkner | excellent | 14:20 |
| jelkner | let's talk about what i see | 14:21 |
| jelkner | i see you have a subdirectory | 14:21 |
| dcammue_ | https://github.com/danielcammu/website | 14:21 |
| jelkner | and you know have 2 index.html pages | 14:21 |
| jelkner | since we are hosting on github | 14:21 |
| jelkner | and you can use github pages | 14:21 |
| jelkner | we can also view the site from a different url | 14:21 |
| jelkner | https://tboimah.github.io/website/ | 14:22 |
| jelkner | that's your homepage | 14:22 |
| jelkner | https://tboimah.github.io/website/headfirstproject/ | 14:23 |
| jelkner | this one should work, but it doesn't | 14:23 |
| tboimah_ | yes that is also working on the students shell | 14:23 |
| jelkner | do you know why? | 14:23 |
| jelkner | does anyone know why the 2nd url i pasted is giving tboimah_ a 404 error? | 14:24 |
| tboimah_ | their is on index page that is why | 14:25 |
| dcammue_ | -1 | 14:25 |
| jelkner | dcammue_: explain please | 14:25 |
| dcammue_ | I mean I don't know why it gives 404 | 14:26 |
| jelkner | does anyone? | 14:26 |
| jkoleah | okay everyone, I have to go now | 14:27 |
| jelkner | jkoleah: before you go | 14:27 |
| dcammue_ | let me be | 14:27 |
| tboimah_ | because the headfirstproject did not link to the index page | 14:27 |
| jelkner | tboimah_: sort of | 14:27 |
| jkoleah | I need to complete my assignment at UoPeople | 14:27 |
| jelkner | the url is a link to a *directory* | 14:27 |
| jelkner | yes, jkoleah | 14:28 |
| jelkner | me too | 14:28 |
| jelkner | see you next week | 14:28 |
| jelkner | go study! | 14:28 |
| jkoleah | you want to say something to me Jeff? | 14:28 |
| jelkner | everyone, when you link to a directory, a web server will look for a page with a special name | 14:28 |
| jelkner | index.htnl | 14:28 |
| jelkner | oops | 14:28 |
| jelkner | index.html | 14:28 |
| jelkner | you named the page index.page | 14:29 |
| jelkner | not index.html | 14:29 |
| dcammue_ | because he place the index in the folder with the projects it should have been outside of the folder | 14:29 |
| jelkner | so the url i typed gave a 404 (page not found) error | 14:29 |
| jelkner | if you named a page index.html inside the headfirstproject directory, the url i typed would work | 14:29 |
| jelkner | it would load the index.html page from the headfirstproj directory | 14:30 |
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| jelkner | i'll leave that to you all to test out for homework this week | 14:30 |
| jelkner | be ready to share working versions next Saturday | 14:30 |
| jelkner | i need to go | 14:30 |
| jelkner | i have a lot of UoPeople homework to do | 14:30 |
| jelkner | just like Jallah and fkoikoi_ | 14:30 |
| jelkner | so let us get to it! | 14:31 |
| dcammue_ | yes you was right Jeff | 14:31 |
| jelkner | see you next week | 14:31 |
| jelkner | yes, dcammue_ i know i am right ;) | 14:31 |
| jelkner | i've been doing this for a long time | 14:31 |
| jelkner | LOL | 14:31 |
| dcammue_ | okay bye | 14:31 |
| jelkner | have a great week, everyone | 14:31 |
| tboimah_ | okay bye Jeff | 14:31 |
| fkoikoi_ | you too | 14:31 |
| jelkner | don't forget to choose someone to meet with tmickelson on Tuesday | 14:31 |
| jelkner | we don't have school on Monday | 14:32 |
| jelkner | so he won't be there until Tuesday | 14:32 |
| jelkner | someone should meet with him each day this week | 14:32 |
| jelkner | Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday | 14:32 |
| jelkner | to work on our new tech | 14:32 |
| jelkner | bye everyone... | 14:32 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off | 14:32 |
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