| dcammue | Good morning Jeff | 10:48 |
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| jelkner | Good morning dcammue | 10:48 |
| dcammue | How was your night? | 10:49 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff | 10:49 |
| jelkner | well, dcammue, my morning was really good, since I see all green circle in your lesson 1! ;-) | 10:50 |
| jelkner | svaye hasn't finished yet. | 10:50 |
| dcammue | Thanks | 10:50 |
| jelkner | perhaps today you could work with her to catch up? | 10:51 |
| dcammue | Okay | 10:51 |
| jelkner | then we should review, and talk about when you want to take the lesson 1 quiz | 10:51 |
| jelkner | how is the rebranding coming? | 10:51 |
| jelkner | we will want to talk about that too | 10:51 |
| dcammue | sure | 10:51 |
| dcammue | because I still have a dot on that | 10:52 |
| jelkner | the rebranding is the "hands on" part of your learning | 10:52 |
| jelkner | truthfully, it' | 10:52 |
| jelkner | it's the most important part | 10:52 |
| jelkner | but both theory and practice go together | 10:53 |
| dcammue | Okay | 10:53 |
| jelkner | the theory allow us to think about what we are doing | 10:53 |
| jelkner | the practice gives us the skills to do it. | 10:53 |
| dcammue | sure | 10:53 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping your rebranding will be with the new coop as your theme | 10:53 |
| jelkner | so we need a name for the new coop | 10:54 |
| dcammue | aright | 10:54 |
| jelkner | then we need to find someone to make a logo | 10:54 |
| jelkner | that's a graphic skill | 10:54 |
| jelkner | i don't teach that | 10:54 |
| jelkner | but i have students who know how to do it | 10:54 |
| dcammue | Then we can get connected to them | 10:55 |
| jelkner | yes we can | 10:55 |
| dcammue | maybe they will be willing | 10:55 |
| jelkner | in the future, we will want to add members to our team in Liberia that have that artistic skill | 10:55 |
| jelkner | but for now, we can get that done here | 10:55 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 10:56 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 10:56 |
| jelkner | dcammue, i need to ask you a favor | 10:56 |
| dcammue | okay | 10:56 |
| dcammue | ask | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i talked to scooper and fkoikoi yesterday about adding an agenda item | 10:56 |
| jelkner | i look now, and see nothing | 10:57 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 10:57 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 10:57 |
| scooper | Jeff | 10:57 |
| jelkner | i would love it if we could get in the habit of adding items during the week | 10:57 |
| scooper | Kindly check your email | 10:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to check his email ;-) | 10:57 |
| scooper | I send you mail concerning the agenda that you could read before adding it...... | 10:58 |
| jelkner | i love it when you are one step ahead of me, scooper! it really helps our process. | 10:59 |
| jelkner | thanks | 10:59 |
| jelkner | i just read the email | 10:59 |
| jelkner | i understand that the Supe is *really* busy | 11:00 |
| jelkner | but if we want this new school, we will need to comply with the process | 11:00 |
| jelkner | i need to be told by you all if you want to do it or not | 11:00 |
| jelkner | if you don't, i'll drop it | 11:00 |
| jelkner | but if you do, we have a lot to do to make it happen | 11:00 |
| jelkner | i'm willing to work with you on it | 11:00 |
| jelkner | but if you are not interested, i won't push it | 11:01 |
| jelkner | so that's the first thing i need to know | 11:01 |
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 11:01 |
| jelkner | do you want to pursue this? | 11:01 |
| scooper | I m willing too Jeff but it's MCSS Project or our Coop project???? | 11:01 |
| jelkner | you can put that on the agenda | 11:01 |
| jelkner | great question, scooper | 11:01 |
| scooper | I will put it on the Agenda | 11:01 |
| jelkner | and i mean it, *great question*! | 11:01 |
| jelkner | thanks | 11:01 |
| jelkner | my immediate answer is: both | 11:02 |
| jelkner | let me explain a little | 11:02 |
| jelkner | now | 11:02 |
| jelkner | we have many questions to answer | 11:02 |
| jelkner | but two main questions stand out first | 11:02 |
| jelkner | 1. who will own the school building when it is finished? | 11:03 |
| jelkner | 2. is there a way to contractually guarantee access to the building (at all hours) to the coop? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i am not a lawyer | 11:04 |
| jelkner | and even less do i understand the laws in Liberia | 11:04 |
| jelkner | but i am a political activist | 11:04 |
| jelkner | so i think all the time about these issues | 11:05 |
| jelkner | who has power? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | how is power exercised? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | how to people build the social world around them? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | under what rules? | 11:05 |
| jelkner | s/to/do | 11:05 |
| jelkner | anyway, my immediate thought is that MCSS would own the building | 11:06 |
| jelkner | but that our coop would have a long term contract that gives us access to use it | 11:06 |
| jelkner | a kind of public/private partnership that the Supe has mentioned in some of his speeches to the community | 11:06 |
| jelkner | i'm a socialist, so when i say "private" i mean cooperative | 11:07 |
| jelkner | i believe wage labor under employee / employer relationship where the employer steals the value produced by the work is a crime | 11:08 |
| scooper | Thanks Jeff I can visually the picture clear now...... as it relate to the building of the school | 11:08 |
| jelkner | but if we have a coop, democratically owned and operated by the workers | 11:08 |
| jelkner | it is not a crime | 11:08 |
| jelkner | but we need to figure out how to make this work | 11:08 |
| jelkner | right now, the Supe lets us use MCSS buildings | 11:09 |
| jelkner | but what happens in the future when he is no longer the Supe? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | what if the next Supe doesn't know us or want to support us? | 11:09 |
| scooper | That is my point of thought every day | 11:09 |
| jelkner | can we have a contract, legally binding, with the school system that protects our access in the future? | 11:09 |
| jelkner | those are the questions we need to explore | 11:10 |
| jelkner | this new school could be a practical way to do that | 11:10 |
| jelkner | but again, only if you all want to do it | 11:10 |
| jelkner | does that begin to help frame the conversation, scooper? | 11:11 |
| scooper | +1 | 11:12 |
| jelkner | sweet | 11:12 |
| jelkner | so please put this on the agenda for saturday | 11:12 |
| scooper | Now I will add it to the agenda | 11:12 |
| jelkner | by the way, july 4 is a holiday here, so i don't have to teach at the college | 11:12 |
| scooper | Today.... | 11:12 |
| scooper | I know | 11:12 |
| jelkner | i could spend more time that day with my MCSS friends if they are available | 11:12 |
| scooper | I wish already through the mail I send you..... | 11:13 |
| scooper | I wish you already through the mail I send you..... | 11:14 |
| jelkner | not sure i understand, scooper. | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you wish what? | 11:15 |
| scooper | I wish you Happy independence day already in my email | 11:15 |
| jelkner | oh yes, thank you | 11:15 |
| dcammue | Same to you Jeff. | 11:16 |
| jelkner | you will be at school that day, yes? | 11:17 |
| dcammue | no | 11:17 |
| jelkner | it is a holiday there too? | 11:17 |
| dcammue | -1 | 11:17 |
| svaye | we will be at the head office Jeff | 11:18 |
| dcammue | School closed | 11:18 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff | 11:18 |
| jelkner | good day, fkoikoi | 11:18 |
| jelkner | scooper, i just sent the remitly transfer for july | 11:19 |
| jelkner | it takes about 4 days | 11:19 |
| jelkner | but you should receive an email soon | 11:19 |
| scooper | OK I will let you know... | 11:19 |
| scooper | later when I receive it..... | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ok, dcammue and svaye | 11:20 |
| jelkner | let's talk | 11:20 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue finished all the exercises in lesson 1 | 11:20 |
| jelkner | so he said he will help you catch up today | 11:20 |
| jelkner | then we want to begin work on the rebranding | 11:20 |
| jelkner | we need a name for the coop | 11:20 |
| jelkner | even if you decided to change it later | 11:21 |
| jelkner | we can' | 11:21 |
| jelkner | can't build a website without a working name | 11:21 |
| jelkner | so i am asking you all to please choose one | 11:21 |
| jelkner | thinking about that will be good, too | 11:21 |
| jelkner | since it will get you to begin to imagine the future | 11:21 |
| svaye | Do you have a suggestion Jeff? | 11:21 |
| jelkner | nope | 11:22 |
| dcammue | we will give the name tomorrow | 11:22 |
| scooper | Can I give a name Jeff | 11:22 |
| jelkner | this really should come from you | 11:22 |
| jelkner | to make it yours | 11:22 |
| scooper | I have a name in mind | 11:22 |
| dcammue | +1 | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so you all talk about it | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i shouldn't be involved in that part | 11:22 |
| jelkner | you just tell me what it is | 11:22 |
| scooper | Jettro Web Development | 11:22 |
| jelkner | don't tell me scooper | 11:23 |
| jelkner | tell our friends there | 11:23 |
| jelkner | you all should agree | 11:23 |
| scooper | I told them | 11:23 |
| jelkner | ok, then on saturday you could make a proposal and they could vote | 11:23 |
| jelkner | put that on the agenda too | 11:23 |
| scooper | Ok Chief.... | 11:24 |
| jelkner | LOL | 11:24 |
| jelkner | thanks Chief | 11:24 |
| jelkner | dcammue, do you have any questions from lesson 1? | 11:24 |
| dcammue | Not really for now Jeff | 11:25 |
| jelkner | ok, if you don't, i'm going to prepare a little practice quiz for monday | 11:25 |
| dcammue | I seem to be understanding from the lesson | 11:26 |
| dcammue | sure | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i'll ask you the questions then | 11:26 |
| svaye | Is the practice quiz for the two of us Jeff? | 11:26 |
| jelkner | and if you're ready, i can turn on the online quiz, you can take it, and then we can move on to lesson 2 | 11:26 |
| jelkner | svaye, of course! | 11:26 |
| jelkner | i didn't mean to leave you out, svaye | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i only asked dcammue because he is finished the lesson | 11:27 |
| jelkner | the plan is for you to do that today | 11:27 |
| svaye | it's okay Jeff | 11:27 |
| jelkner | ok, if you don't have any further questions, i'll go an prepare the practice quiz | 11:28 |
| jelkner | so i have it ready by monday | 11:28 |
| jelkner | see you all saturday at 1 pm your time | 11:28 |
| dcammue | Thanks Sir | 11:28 |
| jelkner | thank you, sir | 11:28 |
| dcammue | not meeting tomorrow? | 11:28 |
| jelkner | it is a pleasure working with you! | 11:28 |
| jelkner | i won't meet on fridays | 11:29 |
| dcammue | oka | 11:29 |
| jelkner | remember, when we made the summer schedule | 11:29 |
| jelkner | i said monday to thursday | 11:29 |
| dcammue | oh yes | 11:29 |
| jelkner | see you saturday | 11:29 |
| svaye | Have a nice day Jeff | 11:29 |
| dcammue | have a nice day then! | 11:29 |
| jelkner | you too! | 11:29 |
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| dcammue | ACTION logs off for the day | 11:30 |
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| fkoikoi | Good Morning shmohamud | 13:18 |
| shmohamud | Good day fkoikoi | 13:19 |
| fkoikoi | How are you today? | 13:20 |
| fkoikoi | and how is your dad doing? | 13:20 |
| shmohamud | I'm OK, dad is still very sick | 13:20 |
| shmohamud | how're you? | 13:20 |
| fkoikoi | I'm good but a bit confuse | 13:20 |
| shmohamud | ok, confused about what? | 13:21 |
| fkoikoi | Hmm, just a certain question that I didn't understand first but I think I understand it now and I am done with the program | 13:22 |
| fkoikoi | it's my assignment at Uopeople | 13:22 |
| shmohamud | do you want to share the assignment, and we can discuss? | 13:23 |
| fkoikoi | I just want to have clarification on the questions so that I can see if what I did was right | 13:25 |
| shmohamud | sounds good, let's see them | 13:25 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:26 |
| fkoikoi | The circumference of a circle is calculated by 2πr, where π = 3.14159 (rounded to five decimal places). Write a function called print_circum that takes an argument for the circle’s radius and prints the circle's radius. | 13:27 |
| fkoikoi | Call your print_circum function three times with different values for radius. | 13:27 |
| shmohamud | ok | 13:28 |
| shmohamud | what did you come up with? | 13:28 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:28 |
| fkoikoi | let me tell you | 13:28 |
| shmohamud | good day scooper | 13:29 |
| scooper | Good morning J | 13:29 |
| scooper | Sahnun | 13:29 |
| shmohamud | any questions for me scooper? | 13:33 |
| scooper | yes.. | 13:35 |
| shmohamud | let's hear it | 13:36 |
| scooper | According to the reading I did HTTP headers let the client and the server pass additional information with an HTTP request or response | 13:37 |
| scooper | Which Http version is suitable for present day since a lot of transition had taken place??? | 13:38 |
| shmohamud | do you use Google Chrome? | 13:39 |
| scooper | both firefox and chrome | 13:40 |
| shmohamud | do you know how to access the Google Developer Tools? | 13:40 |
| scooper | Yes | 13:40 |
| shmohamud | Open Google Developer Tools and go to the Network Tab | 13:40 |
| shmohamud | Then, filter by "Fetch/XHR" | 13:41 |
| shmohamud | let me know when you've done that | 13:41 |
| sysadmin_ | sorry for the disconnection | 13:43 |
| shmohamud | all good :) | 13:44 |
| sysadmin_ | I m on Network tab | 13:44 |
| shmohamud | do you see the "Fetch/XHR" filter? | 13:44 |
| sysadmin_ | yes | 13:45 |
| shmohamud | click on it | 13:45 |
| sysadmin_ | I just did | 13:45 |
| shmohamud | then, go to Google.com. | 13:46 |
| shmohamud | and let me know if you see requests listed on the left side | 13:46 |
| sysadmin_ | \ Sahnun please give me 5minutes I m being call by the supe.... | 13:47 |
| shmohamud | ok | 13:47 |
| shmohamud | fkoikoi, do you want to share what you came up with for U of People? | 13:48 |
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| sysadmin_ | I m back Sahnun | 14:00 |
| shmohamud | cool | 14:01 |
| shmohamud | do you have the fetch/XHR filter open on the network tab? | 14:01 |
| sysadmin_ | We stop on Fetch/XHR | 14:01 |
| shmohamud | Ok, good. Now go to google.com and let me know what you see on the left side of the tab | 14:02 |
| shmohamud | Keep devtools open on that network tab while you visit the site | 14:02 |
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| shmohamud | do you see the requests on the left hand side of the network tab? | 14:05 |
| shmohamud | the first one should start with "search?" | 14:06 |
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| shmohamu_ | sorry, it disconnected | 14:10 |
| shmohamu_ | do you see the requests on the left hand side of the network tab? | 14:10 |
| fkoikoi_ | spencer went to the sup office | 14:12 |
| shmohamu_ | +1 | 14:12 |
| shmohamu_ | do you want to share your U of People assignment to discuss? | 14:13 |
| shmohamu_ | I'm going to log off for the day unless there are any last questions | 14:20 |
| shmohamu_ | scooper: if you see this when you get back: | 14:26 |
| shmohamu_ | Click on one of the requests from the left hand side and then click on "Headers" on the right hand side of the network panel | 14:27 |
| shmohamu_ | It shows request and response headers that are used by Google, which are actively being used today. Lots of information passes in headers, so just get a general sense of some of the headers by looking around | 14:28 |
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| jelkner | how are you doing, shmohamud? | 16:41 |
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| jelkner | Hello Anujin | 17:05 |
| Anujin | hello | 17:05 |
| jelkner | This is where we meet all the time with the group in Liberia | 17:06 |
| jelkner | We practice what I like to call "radical transparency" | 17:07 |
| jelkner | what that means in practice is that we have a bot running, LittleWebster | 17:07 |
| jelkner | that records all converstations here and turns them into web pages | 17:07 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 17:07 |
| jelkner | take a look at that url | 17:07 |
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| jelkner | !help | 17:35 |
| LittleWebster | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove | 17:35 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 17:35 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 17:35 |
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