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| klarios | hey jelkner! | 20:22 |
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| klarios | hey luis | 20:25 |
| ledmer | Hi | 20:25 |
| jelkner | Hi klarios | 20:26 |
| jelkner | How was Chicago? | 20:26 |
| klarios | it was amazing, i wanted to round up everyone and tell you all a little bit about it | 20:27 |
| klarios | should we wait for james? | 20:27 |
| jelkner | it's not 4:30 yet | 20:28 |
| jelkner | but we should start on time | 20:29 |
| jamesoconnr | Hello! | 20:31 |
| jelkner | let's roll! | 20:31 |
| jelkner | we don't have an agenda | 20:31 |
| jelkner | but we should start to make it a practice to develop one | 20:31 |
| jelkner | i'll put one item on it now | 20:31 |
| jelkner | who wants to be paid to fix our bot so that we can post agenda items and the agenda is printed at meeting start | 20:32 |
| jelkner | ? | 20:32 |
| jelkner | i asked for that months ago | 20:32 |
| jelkner | but it still doesn't work | 20:32 |
| jelkner | that's got to be part of our professionalization effort | 20:32 |
| jamesoconnr | I could do that, but wasnt ledmer previously doing bot work? | 20:32 |
| ledmer | !agenda | 20:33 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 20:33 |
| ledmer | the bot is working | 20:33 |
| jelkner | ledmer, it didn't anounce the start of meeting | 20:33 |
| ledmer | ohh | 20:33 |
| jelkner | meetings start a 4:30 pm on Thursday | 20:33 |
| jelkner | it should print the agenda at that time | 20:33 |
| ledmer | let me do that rn | 20:33 |
| jelkner | then we should teach people how to use it | 20:33 |
| jelkner | so can we have that by next thursday? | 20:34 |
| jelkner | i'll post agenda items if i know it will work | 20:34 |
| jelkner | there is a lesson here i keep trying to drive home | 20:35 |
| jelkner | it's work a few minutes to discuss | 20:35 |
| jelkner | what did the customer want here? | 20:35 |
| jelkner | that's the question | 20:35 |
| jelkner | the answer is: | 20:35 |
| jelkner | To use the bot to organize meeting agendas | 20:35 |
| jelkner | so, to respond to the customer | 20:35 |
| jelkner | and make them happy | 20:35 |
| jelkner | you need to think about this | 20:36 |
| jamesoconnr | ledmer let me knew if you want any help | 20:36 |
| jamesoconnr | let me know | 20:36 |
| jelkner | and ask yourself "is it working the way the customer wanted?" | 20:36 |
| jelkner | if not, you need to make it so | 20:36 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we will not have happy customers | 20:36 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 20:36 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:37 |
| jamesoconnr | +1 | 20:37 |
| klarios | me and anthony_p want to bring some of our insights from the Conference, we were talking with many cooperatives and small businesses and figured that they really need our services. with some asking us to explicitly let us do they website and such | 20:39 |
| jamesoconnr | Awesome, do you have a list of specific leads and needs? | 20:40 |
| Ved | ^ | 20:40 |
| jamesoconnr | If so you may want to put it on a nextcloud doc so members can comment/edit | 20:40 |
| jelkner | jamesoconnr, let's use decidim for that | 20:41 |
| jamesoconnr | even better | 20:41 |
| klarios | yeah, when we had the tech conference all the cooperatives came together to document their needs and it basically screamed Business tracker, websites, and some type of citizen participation | 20:41 |
| jelkner | we really need to begin dogfooding that in ernest | 20:41 |
| anthony_p | yes, we need to improve our understanding of decidim | 20:41 |
| klarios | thats right in fact decidim was brought up in the tech conference | 20:41 |
| Ved | that sounds pretty good kei | 20:41 |
| Ved | good work guys | 20:42 |
| klarios | innitially because they wanted a citizen participation system for the bigger cooperatives | 20:42 |
| jelkner | Johan_F, anthony_p and i were talking about this before the meeting | 20:42 |
| klarios | jelkner: Im not sure if you know but Chi commons reached out | 20:42 |
| klarios | at that conference | 20:42 |
| jelkner | yes, klarios, anthony_p told me | 20:42 |
| fatima | johanna here with Fatima | 20:43 |
| klarios | good, we are going to be part of the tech coops that serves cooperative, but the amount of tech coops is lacking | 20:43 |
| fatima | Lorena from mujeres manos a la obra expressed that she wanted to update their website | 20:45 |
| klarios | yes | 20:45 |
| klarios | mujeres manos a la obra want an big update to their site, mainly about prices, contact information and more emphasis on the services they offer | 20:45 |
| klarios | they also want to have their reviews embedded | 20:46 |
| jamesoconnr | how big are the tech coops you met with | 20:46 |
| anthony_p | some are bigger than others, comp.coop is pretty big, solidarity labs cooperative is much smaller and newer | 20:47 |
| klarios | currently the tech coops that are regularly meeting are too big, but they are stable because they have regular cooperative businesses coming to them for work | 20:47 |
| jelkner | fatima and blu should work on that | 20:47 |
| klarios | arent* | 20:47 |
| ledmer | Should we put that up on Decidim??, So everyone can just check up decidim to look at wathever work needs to be done | 20:47 |
| jelkner | small jobs can go to our partner coop in liberia | 20:47 |
| jamesoconnr | wdym too big? | 20:47 |
| klarios | arent big i meant | 20:48 |
| jelkner | let's focus on bigger jobs that will earn us what we need to be successful | 20:48 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:48 |
| anthony_p | we should have a page on decidim listing potential customers and people should be contacting those customers and reporting back on decidim what they learn i think | 20:48 |
| jamesoconnr | +1 | 20:48 |
| klarios | that's where coming up projects need to focused on. This year there was I think 25~ new cooperatives | 20:48 |
| klarios | all of which need websites | 20:49 |
| klarios | along with that ~10 new cooperative incubators | 20:49 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, i think our first task is investigation | 20:49 |
| klarios | who need people to do design as well | 20:49 |
| jelkner | there are 400+ cities in the world using Decidim | 20:49 |
| jamesoconnr | All of which need *Decidim ;) | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | that is what i was talking about jelkner | 20:49 |
| jelkner | Johan_F already gave me an article to read | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | putting the list on there and investigating the other coops | 20:49 |
| jelkner | need to become "experts" on the Decidim story | 20:49 |
| klarios | jamesoconnr: yeah, I would say the bigger cooperatives are in need of it | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | see what we can do | 20:49 |
| jelkner | where it is used? | 20:50 |
| jelkner | what has work and what have been it's failures and challenges? | 20:50 |
| jelkner | s/work/worked | 20:50 |
| Ved | Regarding design we still have Natalia that we can use for now, she still has the $1000 credit | 20:50 |
| jamesoconnr | +1 we need to connect with some people in those 400+ cities | 20:51 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:51 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:51 |
| jelkner | it would be great to start with NYC | 20:51 |
| jelkner | it that project is still active | 20:51 |
| jelkner | s/it/if | 20:51 |
| klarios | nyc participate is definitely a good start, people from the cooperatives were not satisfied with some of the citizen participation in their incubators | 20:52 |
| klarios | nyc participate was heavily mentioned | 20:52 |
| Johan_F | The NYC program is still active | 20:52 |
| jelkner | klarios, the article Johan_F gave me talked about Lucern and Zurich Switzerland | 20:52 |
| jelkner | it was a mixed result | 20:53 |
| jelkner | klarios, Decidim is just a tool | 20:53 |
| jelkner | it doesn't work unless the human factors are central | 20:53 |
| anthony_p | klarios, i just set up a decidim page under the Nova Assembly called potential customers, if you can list them on there | 20:53 |
| jelkner | nice | 20:53 |
| jelkner | i'll post there | 20:54 |
| klarios | +1 the execution is crutial | 20:54 |
| jelkner | before next week | 20:54 |
| anthony_p | we should keep in mind that anything that seems like it might be too small for us, we can hand it off to Jetro as well | 20:54 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:54 |
| ledmer | +1 | 20:55 |
| jelkner | ok, 5 minutes left | 20:55 |
| jelkner | anything else? | 20:55 |
| klarios | ok I see it anthony_p | 20:55 |
| jelkner | next week Johanna and I will have to leave right at 5 | 20:55 |
| jelkner | since we have a DNOVA meeting online at 5 | 20:56 |
| jelkner | we should keep our meeting to 30 min anyway imho | 20:56 |
| jelkner | respect people's time | 20:56 |
| jamesoconnr | +1 | 20:56 |
| jelkner | be organized and efficient | 20:56 |
| klarios | sounds good, I think we said what needed to be said | 20:56 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:57 |
| anthony_p | i'm going to get in contact with John McNamara from Northwest Cooperative Development Center this week | 20:57 |
| jelkner | excellent anthony_p | 20:57 |
| klarios | I will keep contact with Chi commons because they are leading the tech coop link from the federation | 20:57 |
| anthony_p | hopefully it will be productive and I'll have some news and information before our next meeting | 20:57 |
| klarios | I know they have the biggest innitiative towards it | 20:57 |
| jelkner | thanks klarios | 20:57 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:58 |
| jelkner | see you all next week | 20:58 |
| jelkner | same time, same place | 20:58 |
| jamesoconnr | See you! | 20:58 |
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| ledmer | Bye! | 20:58 |
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| klarios | regarding Mujeres manos a la obra, more details will be on decidim projects | 20:58 |
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| Johan_F | Bye! | 20:58 |
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| klarios | I meant to say current clients | 20:59 |
| klarios | mb | 20:59 |
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