IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2024-10-17

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klarios!agenda20:27
LittleWebsterWarning: There are no items on the agenda!20:27
klarios!add Discussing business plan meeting with USFWC20:28
LittleWebsterSuccess: "Discussing business plan meeting with USFWC" has been added to the agenda.20:28
klarios!add Scheduling a meeting with Mujeres Manos A la Obra 20:28
LittleWebsterSuccess: "Scheduling a meeting with Mujeres Manos A la Obra" has been added to the agenda.20:28
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jelknerapologies for the mix up20:34
klariosHello all20:34
jelknerlet's jump right in20:34
klariosjelkner: no worries 20:34
klarios!agenda20:34
LittleWebsterWarning: There are no items on the agenda!20:34
jelknerwe have another meeting here at 5 pm20:34
klariosseems like the agenda wiped out?20:34
jelknerso regarding LittleWebster 20:34
Johan_fi think it wipes at 4:3020:34
klariosahh i see20:35
jelknerit should automagically print the agenda at 4:30 pm20:35
klariosJohan_f: I sent an email a couple minutes ago, im wondering if you've recieved it?20:35
jelknerwe should check if it prints to the logs20:35
jelknerit should20:35
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anthony_pthe logic for when it wipes should be changed20:35
jelknerso we should see in the records the printed agenda at 4:30 pm EST sharp each Thursday20:35
klariosi typed the agenda a couple of minutes ago 20:35
jelknerit then needs to clear the agenda20:35
jelknerfor the next week20:36
Johan_fklarios I did recieve it 20:36
ledmerITs the same in the logs20:36
klarios+120:36
jelknerthat's how it used to work in the old SchoolTool day20:36
klariosgreat! Johan_f 20:36
jelknerdays20:36
anthony_pi'm thinking it should only clear the agenda during the hours of the meeting, after the agenda is printed for the first time20:36
klariosAs you may have known I had issues with email for the longest of time, I hope this new address fixes everything up jelkner 20:36
klariosJohan_f: 20:36
klarios*20:36
jelknerMe too!!!20:36
jelkneremail *must* work20:37
jelknersimple as that20:37
klarios+120:37
jelknerany idea is james is coming?20:37
Johan_f+120:37
jelknerwe need to figure out whose in for this project and make a clear plan for developing our work20:37
klarioshe is active, I will ask him 20:37
jelknerklarios, these weekly meetings will be the definition of being "active"20:38
jelknerif you don't make them, we can't count on you20:38
jelknerand need to plan around the folks who show up20:38
jelknerit relates directly to the email i sent today regarding the business plan20:39
jelknerwe are a service company20:39
klariosI agree, we cant settle for less20:39
jelknercan someone reach out to him this week?20:40
jelknerlet's ask people straight up20:40
jelknersince we are now starting to develop a network of Decidim testers20:41
jelknerin our community20:41
jelknerwe need to be able to put support into practice20:41
klariosregarding the business plan in terms of USFWC. I feel we are not ready to seek technical assistance yet, but we have many resources available to us. USFWC charger $100 per hour for technical assistance, that is too much 20:41
jelkner+120:41
jelknerbut it's nice to see what people charge for stuff like that ;-)20:42
jelknerwe need to get to the point where we can charge rates like that!20:42
klarioswe do have the peer tech network, they are willing to share business plans20:42
klarios+1 lots of small businesses out there need it120:42
jelknerDhruv promised to help with our business plan20:43
jelknerDr. Hubbard too20:43
jelknerhonestly, i think we are ok there for now20:43
jelkneri'll continue to hack on what i started20:43
jelknerand iterate it into something a bit more substantial20:43
klariosGreat! my biggest concern is being able to do ethical business while being sustainable 20:43
jelknerwhat we need now is clear20:43
jelknerWe need to learn to become Decidim "experts"20:44
jelkneras soon as we can20:44
jelknerso i'm hoping more and more of our internal convesation will revolve around that20:44
anthony_pThat's going to require active use of the platform and running into issues so that we can figure them out20:44
jelkneri mentioned the calendar plugins20:44
jelkner+120:44
klariosI agree. as of now I think all of us have decidim accounts, we can actively engage and find isseus20:45
anthony_pAnd to that end, we should identify specific things that we want to do with decidim and make them into goals and tasks20:45
jelkneranthony_p, i'll be working with Johan_f to actively recruit people into using the platform20:45
jelknerwe need help from the rest of you, but we'll take the lead on that20:45
anthony_pnot just for others, but for us as well20:45
jelkneryes20:45
jelknerlet's start with the calendar20:45
jelkneri'm relying on the tech team to handle adding plugins and suchy20:46
jelknersuch20:46
anthony_pwhat do we want to accomplish it?20:46
anthony_p*with it?20:46
jelknerwe need a calendar20:46
jelknerso that:20:46
jelkner1. everyone can post meetings like the one yesterday20:46
jelkner2. we can learn to use it to plan where we need to be when20:47
jelknermake sense?20:47
klarios+120:47
Johan_fI looked into the calendar plugins and they can holdf Consultations, Debates, External Events, Meetings and Participatory Processes. 20:47
Johan_fThere are three different versions made by different organizations, all are relatively similar.20:48
anthony_pso, we should try each of them and figure out the differences20:48
anthony_pwe should understand those differences20:48
anthony_pespecially since were aiming to be experts20:49
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jelkner+1!20:49
jelknerklarios, do you have james's contact info?20:49
jelknerwe need to help anthony_p figure out who our dev team is20:50
jelknerwe can't be guessing20:50
jelkneror we will not be able to achieve the goal of becoming "experts"20:50
jelknerklarios, do you?20:50
ledmerI do20:51
jelknerah, thanks ledmer 20:51
anthony_pif Johan_f can put the list of plugins in the studying decidim blog post, or create a decidim calendar blog post, we can play around with the plug ins and comment on them20:51
jelknercan you please reach out to him this week?20:51
ledmersure 20:51
jelkneri was assuming the dev team was anthony_p ledmer and james20:51
jelknerwe need to know if we have james20:52
jelknerand what he thinks he can contribute in terms of time to this20:52
ledmerOk20:52
jelknerask him to be concrete20:52
klariosI do 20:52
jelknerhow many hours per week can he be available?20:52
Johan_fanthony_p I can definitely do that20:52
klariosI was reaching out to him20:52
ledmerHe would probably ask what do we want him to do exactly20:52
jelknerhe knows what we want him to do20:53
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klariosWe have to be concrete about time too, Final exam season is coming soon and we have to be prepared for that20:53
jelknerlearn to setup and support Decimin20:53
Johan_fanthony_p Ill probably create a new post for specifically plugins20:53
anthony_p+120:54
jelknerok, let's continue this discussion through Decidim! ;-)20:55
jelkneri have to go20:55
jelknerour guest has arrived20:55
klariosalright thanks for your time everyone!20:55
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Johan_fsee you later everyone20:56
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ledmerbye!20:56
anthony_pbye20:57
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