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| jelkner | !add VASEN events in Fredericksburg and NOVA and urgent need to update SECOSOL website | 14:35 |
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| jelkner | Hello anthony_p! | 20:18 |
| anthony_p | hey jeff | 20:20 |
| anthony_p | i've been working on the decidim, trying to figure out what's wrong | 20:20 |
| anthony_p | not sure why it's not working, since i did a restoration from old backups from a week ago and 2 weeks ago, with no change | 20:20 |
| anthony_p | oh, it actually is working, just have some personal caching issues with opera | 20:24 |
| anthony_p | so it should be up and running now | 20:24 |
| jelkner | did you see my email this morning? | 20:25 |
| anthony_p | yeah, i'm running into that issue now that i cleared the cache in opera | 20:25 |
| jelkner | i can't access it at school because we have an expired ssl certificate | 20:25 |
| anthony_p | i'll run the script for the certs | 20:27 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 20:27 |
| anthony_p | did someone do something on the 22nd? | 20:27 |
| jelkner | we should automate that | 20:27 |
| anthony_p | it shouldn't have been expired, i created them in june | 20:28 |
| klarios | I accessed but not the 22nd, a while ago | 20:29 |
| klarios | !agenda | 20:29 |
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| LittleWebster | VASEN events in Fredericksburg and NOVA and urgent need to update SECOSOL website (added by jelkner) | 20:29 |
| klarios | it just gives me a privacy error when trying to access the site now | 20:30 |
| klarios | anthony_p: | 20:30 |
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| anthony_p | yep, i'm fixing it at the moment | 20:31 |
| anthony_p | been working on it for a couple hours to try and pinpoint the issue | 20:31 |
| jelkner | klarios, do you have any word from james? | 20:31 |
| jelkner | let's start the meeting | 20:31 |
| Johan_F | anthony_p, I belive I created a participitory process for NOVA VASEN but I don't think that should have done anything | 20:31 |
| jelkner | fixing things should happen after that | 20:31 |
| klarios | anthony_p: got it, I dont think I saw any irregularities when I was as well, but it could be another issue | 20:32 |
| jelkner | klarios, anthony_p let's meet please | 20:32 |
| jelkner | at 5 pm folks can start working on stuff again | 20:32 |
| klarios | jelkner: no, I did not get a message back from him | 20:32 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:33 |
| jelkner | this 30 minutes should be about making decisions | 20:33 |
| jelkner | so Ved, this is crucial | 20:33 |
| jelkner | since you said he texted you today | 20:33 |
| anthony_p | i tried contacting james over zulip as well, didn't get a response back from him | 20:34 |
| jelkner | we won't be "ready" for real jobs like you say your parents have | 20:34 |
| jelkner | until we can work more professionally | 20:34 |
| jelkner | that means communicating effectively and responding in a timely manor to needs | 20:34 |
| jelkner | this is my biggest concern now | 20:35 |
| Ved | James usually never does this so im sure he has a good reason | 20:35 |
| jelkner | since unlike in previous reboots, our weakness is now inverted | 20:35 |
| jelkner | we have the business team together like never before | 20:35 |
| jelkner | Ved and now Devesh are doing a bang up job | 20:35 |
| jelkner | but we don't have the dev team together | 20:35 |
| jelkner | and *that* (the dev team) is our product! | 20:36 |
| jelkner | so we've got to address that before we can move forward | 20:36 |
| jelkner | i've been calling anthony_p about this on a regular basis | 20:36 |
| jelkner | we need to know who our dev team consists of | 20:36 |
| jelkner | and what their skills (strenghts and weaknesses) are | 20:37 |
| jelkner | only then can we make sure we get jobs that match our ability to deliver | 20:37 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 20:37 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 20:37 |
| ledmer | You are right | 20:37 |
| klarios | +1 I agree | 20:38 |
| Johan_F | +1 | 20:38 |
| Ved | +1 | 20:38 |
| jelkner | anthony_p, thoughts? | 20:38 |
| jelkner | what can those of us not on the dev team do to help? | 20:38 |
| anthony_p | sounds about right, so initially i'm seeing the dev team as myself, Luis, Johan | 20:38 |
| jelkner | let's not burden Johan_F with that | 20:39 |
| jelkner | he is specializing on Decidim | 20:39 |
| jelkner | i don't want to speak for him | 20:39 |
| anthony_p | i'm looking at it from the point of view of who is a developer for the coop, not what projects they're working | 20:40 |
| klarios | There are many opportunities we have avaliable to us, as a college student in a stem school I know there is countless of peers who are talented and would love the opportunity to work but I am not sure we are in the stage where we can have stable work | 20:40 |
| anthony_p | +1 | 20:40 |
| jelkner | klarios, this is something you, anthony_p, and i have to discuss very seriously | 20:41 |
| klarios | There are work fairs that I can attend to as NOVA web representative but we dont have business cards and we lack the reputation of "lockheed martin" and other competitors | 20:41 |
| anthony_p | so, who do we have that has recently worked on any of our active projects/customers | 20:41 |
| ledmer | me | 20:42 |
| ledmer | and James | 20:42 |
| klarios | +1 I agree | 20:42 |
| jelkner | we need to find a few good "pros" who are interested in being part of a worker cooperative centered on "social justice computing" | 20:42 |
| anthony_p | and what projects have they done dev work on? | 20:42 |
| jelkner | We can find all the VT interns we need | 20:42 |
| jelkner | but we can't build our business around them | 20:42 |
| klarios | +1 I agree, we need to find devs who are actually committed to social justice computing | 20:43 |
| jelkner | so it would be one thing if you find someone who, like our comrade anthony_p, comes to us with that in mind | 20:43 |
| ledmer | Guzman's website, art, other projects similar to guzman | 20:43 |
| jelkner | but we need to find a core team soon | 20:44 |
| ledmer | are the projects we worked on | 20:44 |
| klarios | with that being said I think we need to voice the incentives to becoming a dev with Nova web development more | 20:44 |
| jelkner | since we can't sell what we don't have | 20:44 |
| anthony_p | we need to define the incentives before we can voice them and recruit | 20:44 |
| jelkner | klarios, let me push back a bit again | 20:44 |
| jelkner | we have a business plan and a project that we are having trouble with now | 20:45 |
| jelkner | the Decidim hosting | 20:45 |
| jelkner | let's focus on that first | 20:45 |
| klarios | alright | 20:45 |
| jelkner | so we can be concrete | 20:45 |
| anthony_p | on the business plan front, i was in contact with Taji Amani from BRED today and had a very informative meeting | 20:46 |
| jelkner | SJC is committed to spending $20K on that project | 20:46 |
| jelkner | so there is a budget | 20:46 |
| jelkner | and there is a need | 20:46 |
| jelkner | can NOVA Web deliver it? | 20:46 |
| jelkner | that's what i need to know | 20:46 |
| jelkner | all the business team will find themselves in the same predicament i am in if we can't | 20:47 |
| jelkner | since we'll have clients come to us | 20:47 |
| jelkner | and we'll start something we can't deliver | 20:47 |
| jelkner | and they we be really mad, and we will be really unhappy | 20:47 |
| jelkner | we dont' want that | 20:47 |
| klarios | Nova web has been able to scratch the sruface of decidim with the progress we have dine up unitl now | 20:47 |
| jelkner | klarios, the server isn't working now | 20:48 |
| anthony_p | after the meeting it will be working | 20:48 |
| jelkner | klarios, are you familiar with the term "continuity of service"? | 20:48 |
| klarios | jelkner: yeah I am aware of the issue, it is an opportunity to have the issue and figure out an answer to it | 20:48 |
| klarios | but we need to be more effective in the future, anthony_p cannot do it alone | 20:48 |
| jelkner | +1 | 20:49 |
| jelkner | that is my point | 20:49 |
| klarios | +1 | 20:49 |
| jelkner | continuity of service is an objective measure | 20:49 |
| jelkner | the percentage of time that a service is available | 20:49 |
| jelkner | Decidim | 20:49 |
| anthony_p | continuity of service on our decidim for nova is something that is intentionally and expected to be unreliable | 20:50 |
| jelkner | requires a *very* reliable uptime | 20:50 |
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| jelkner | starting at 6 pm | 21:11 |
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| jelkner | i will be uploading their flier | 21:13 |
| anthony_p | great, thanks Jeff! | 21:13 |
| jelkner | and writing more in the Process | 21:13 |
| jelkner | so i will be documenting all that in our Decidim | 21:13 |
| klarios | jelkner: were dilcia and lesly doing something for oct 31? | 21:13 |
| klarios | they mentioned that | 21:13 |
| jelkner | klarios, no, nov 1 | 21:13 |
| klarios | oooh got it | 21:14 |
| klarios | also Im going back to NOVA for the thanksgiving break, since its break for all of us maybe we can meet | 21:14 |
| klarios | I will be there for a week | 21:14 |
| klarios | we can arrange with decidim | 21:15 |
| klarios | I have to go now, thank you for meeting! have a good day | 21:16 |
| anthony_p | +1 | 21:16 |
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| anthony_p | thanks for the good meeting | 21:16 |
| Johan_F | see you later everyone | 21:16 |
| Ved | bye | 21:17 |
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| jelkner | anthony_p, i'll call you over the weekend | 21:19 |
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