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| Ved | Hi | 15:07 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon gabriel | 15:09 |
| gabriel | how're you jelkner? | 15:09 |
| jelkner | gabriel, can you ask dcammue to please join us here | 15:09 |
| jelkner | ? | 15:09 |
| gabriel | okay.. | 15:09 |
| jelkner | gabriel, i have hexchat set up to join these two channels automatically | 15:10 |
| jelkner | you all should do the same | 15:10 |
| jelkner | gabriel, as soon as dcammue gets here, I want to try something | 15:11 |
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| jelkner | gabriel, are you at scooper's place? | 15:11 |
| jelkner | gabriel, please respond | 15:12 |
| jelkner | we have a lot to do today | 15:12 |
| gabriel | okay, I have told him. | 15:13 |
| jelkner | are you at scooper's? | 15:13 |
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| jelkner | tboimah, good afternoon | 15:14 |
| jelkner | are any of you at scooper's place? | 15:14 |
| jelkner | please respond quickly | 15:14 |
| jelkner | we have a lot to do | 15:14 |
| jelkner | i want to try a video conferencing app | 15:14 |
| jelkner | but only if you are at scooper's | 15:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION waits for someone to answer his simple question | 15:16 |
| jelkner | IS ANYONE AT SCOOPER'S PLACE? | 15:16 |
| jelkner | so i'll take that as a no | 15:17 |
| jelkner | ok | 15:17 |
| jelkner | that's unfortunate | 15:17 |
| jelkner | but it's my fault | 15:17 |
| jelkner | since i didn't request that | 15:17 |
| svaye | I am not at scooper house jelkner | 15:17 |
| gabriel | No | 15:17 |
| gabriel | I am home | 15:17 |
| jelkner | thank you svaye and gabriel | 15:17 |
| tboimah | Good afternoon jelkner and everyone | 15:17 |
| jelkner | if no one joins from there | 15:18 |
| dcammue_ | Good afternoon jelkner | 15:18 |
| gabriel | How're you tboimah | 15:18 |
| svaye | Hi everyone | 15:18 |
| jelkner | we can reschedule the video conferencing trial to another time | 15:18 |
| dcammue_ | Good afternoon tboimah | 15:18 |
| tboimah | fine gab | 15:19 |
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| svaye | we meet at scooper house every Saturday, I think that will be the best time jelkner | 15:23 |
| dcammue_ | what jelkner is trying to say? | 15:23 |
| jelkner | svaye, from when to when? | 15:23 |
| jelkner | we need to work out a weekly schedule | 15:24 |
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| dcammue_ | we meet to scooper house from 2 pm to 6 pm jelkner | 15:25 |
| dcammue_ | every | 15:25 |
| dcammue_ | *every Saturday | 15:25 |
| jelkner | great, dcammue_ | 15:25 |
| svaye | from 2pm to 6pm our time which will be like 9am your time | 15:25 |
| jelkner | Now that our clock has changed | 15:25 |
| jelkner | that is 9 am to 1 pm our time | 15:26 |
| jelkner | Good morning, Stephen | 15:26 |
| jelkner | i see you found your way here | 15:26 |
| Stephen | Ok, I'm on. I've copied the link so I've got it preserved now. | 15:26 |
| jelkner | excellent | 15:27 |
| jelkner | this is our regular channel | 15:27 |
| jelkner | do you know if anyone else is coming dcammue_ gabriel tboimah svaye? | 15:27 |
| Stephen | No I don't... | 15:28 |
| jelkner | i didn't expect you to know, Dr. Hubbard ;-) | 15:28 |
| jelkner | but i thought dcammue_ gabriel tboimah or svaye might | 15:28 |
| Stephen | I sent everyone a "Implementation Plan", rather than an expanded business plan because that's really what's needed right now. | 15:28 |
| jelkner | but apparently now | 15:28 |
| jelkner | not | 15:29 |
| jelkner | oh, here comes janet | 15:29 |
| svaye | I don't know jelkner | 15:29 |
| jelkner | hello jkollie | 15:29 |
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| jelkner | great to see you! | 15:29 |
| dcammue_ | freena need to be here too | 15:29 |
| jkollie | great to see you too jelkner | 15:30 |
| mulbah | hello everyone | 15:30 |
| svaye | Freena and scooper should have been here, but I don't know why they are not here yet | 15:30 |
| jelkner | ok, it's time to start | 15:31 |
| jelkner | jetro folks, have you seen Dr. Hubbard's implementation plan? | 15:31 |
| jkollie | Freena said she will join shortly , I just call her | 15:32 |
| jelkner | we need to keep this short, jkollie | 15:32 |
| jelkner | so maybe she doesn't have to | 15:32 |
| jelkner | we can't wait for her in any case | 15:32 |
| dcammue_ | -1 | 15:32 |
| jelkner | let me get a +1 or -1 from each of you | 15:32 |
| jelkner | dcammue_, thanks | 15:32 |
| svaye | Yes I saw it jelkner | 15:32 |
| dcammue_ | when did he send it jelkner | 15:32 |
| jelkner | great svaye! | 15:33 |
| dcammue_ | where svaye | 15:33 |
| jkollie | alright jelkner I understand | 15:33 |
| svaye | He sent it on Saturday dcammue_ | 15:33 |
| jelkner | dcammue_, get that from her after | 15:33 |
| jelkner | i'm happy she has seen it | 15:33 |
| dcammue_ | oh! i did not take note sorry | 15:33 |
| jelkner | i was hoping to try video conferencing so we could talk about it | 15:33 |
| gabriel | -1 | 15:33 |
| jelkner | but we can't do that now | 15:34 |
| gabriel | +1 | 15:34 |
| jelkner | so, let's do this | 15:34 |
| jelkner | can we meet on Saturday at 10 am EST, 3 pm UTC, and 7 am PST? | 15:34 |
| dcammue_ | +1 | 15:34 |
| mulbah | +1 | 15:34 |
| tboimah | +1 | 15:34 |
| svaye | +1 | 15:34 |
| Stephen | +1 | 15:35 |
| jkollie | +1 | 15:35 |
| ledmer | +1 | 15:35 |
| Devesh | +1 | 15:35 |
| jelkner | excellent! | 15:35 |
| jelkner | ok, jetro, i'll give you your homework assignment | 15:35 |
| jelkner | for the while team | 15:35 |
| jelkner | between now and then: | 15:35 |
| gabriel | +1 | 15:35 |
| jelkner | 1. Read and discuss Dr. Hubbard's proposal | 15:36 |
| dcammue_ | so that's means today we will not have the meeting? | 15:36 |
| jelkner | we are meeting now dcammue_ | 15:36 |
| Stephen | If you don't have a copy, Email me. SMHubbardpp@Gmail.com | 15:36 |
| dcammue_ | okay, let's continue | 15:36 |
| gabriel | jelkner, is this everyone task or for only the business people? | 15:36 |
| jelkner | 2. Look at this link: https://help.mayfirst.org/en/guide/how-to-use-Jitsi-Meet-video-conference-platform | 15:37 |
| jelkner | Stephen, if svaye has it, they all have it | 15:37 |
| jelkner | they work well as a team | 15:37 |
| Stephen | Ok... | 15:37 |
| jelkner | which our greatest strength | 15:37 |
| jelkner | we need to both rely on that and build on it | 15:37 |
| jelkner | mulbah, are you here? | 15:37 |
| jelkner | you seem grayed out | 15:38 |
| jelkner | which usually means away | 15:38 |
| Stephen | It's a suggestion, not a mandate, so discuss it and decide if its helpful or if not, what then next 1st steps should be... | 15:38 |
| jelkner | of course, Stephen, it is a big help | 15:38 |
| jelkner | thank you | 15:38 |
| Stephen | ...it not, then what do you suggest the next set of steps to getting the business up and going should be. This does not include logistics and practical stuff on your end (paying the electrical bill, etc.) | 15:39 |
| jelkner | ok, mulbah didn't answer | 15:41 |
| svaye | I read the implementation plan Dr Hubbard, and it's quite helpful | 15:41 |
| jelkner | gabriel and tboimah can i ask you two to check out the jitsi server? | 15:41 |
| ledmer | I suggest there are clear goals marked | 15:42 |
| tboimah | sure | 15:42 |
| jelkner | ledmer, since this channel is automatically logged | 15:42 |
| jelkner | it will be easy to refer to anything we decide here | 15:42 |
| jelkner | and everyone has access to it | 15:42 |
| jelkner | tboimah, thanks | 15:42 |
| ledmer | probably with self imposed deadlines to meet them | 15:42 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:42 |
| gabriel | done | 15:43 |
| ledmer | Try to make a document with the goals and the time so that everyone has access to it | 15:45 |
| Stephen | What the Implementation plan is trying to do is determine your cost of doing business, expressed in 1 hr. of consulting | 15:45 |
| Stephen | And then determine how many customers do you need to earn enough to break even, or just cover your current and future costs (broken PC, etc.) | 15:46 |
| jelkner | yes, Stephen | 15:46 |
| jelkner | svaye, and dcammue_ especially need to begin thinking that way | 15:46 |
| jelkner | the whole coop, but starting with the business team | 15:47 |
| Devesh | +1 | 15:47 |
| jelkner | in fact, Stephen | 15:47 |
| Stephen | As consultants, you need to have a certain amount of current business, and then a backlog of folks who are waiting for you to get to them. | 15:47 |
| jelkner | i can add a few more things to consider | 15:47 |
| mulbah | Jeff I clone the repository of the LittleWebster and I'm modifying it base of the mail you send | 15:47 |
| jelkner | Mr. Zawolo and I have been discussing a two year goal | 15:48 |
| jelkner | of forming a non-profit in Liberia, (SJC Liberia, perhaps?) | 15:48 |
| jelkner | that will purchase a small building | 15:48 |
| Stephen | Otherwise, you go from earning $$ to earning nothing because when the current job is done, there's no one waiting in line to fill in the missing revenue... | 15:48 |
| jelkner | yes! | 15:50 |
| jelkner | you need to budget for that | 15:50 |
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| jelkner | Stephen, there are many things that need to happen at once | 15:50 |
| jelkner | My plan was to have them "practice" on three websites with me as "customer" | 15:50 |
| jelkner | 1. Their own Jetro website | 15:51 |
| jelkner | 2. Our SJC website | 15:51 |
| Stephen | So hopefully, you will eventually be able to work on several projects at once, with a mix of new systems (1st time customer) and ongoing maintenance (less up-front work). | 15:51 |
| jelkner | 3. SECOSOL's website | 15:51 |
| jelkner | We should treat them as billable projects | 15:51 |
| jelkner | and start setting goals, timelines, and deliverables | 15:51 |
| Stephen | Yes, that's an excellent approach as you can't figure out the stuff I just outlined above without some customer experience... | 15:51 |
| jelkner | only when we know they can do that can we begin marketing them to other customers | 15:52 |
| jelkner | who many not be as patient and nice as we are ;-) | 15:52 |
| Stephen | I actually have a website they were working on in the past. Its the Clean Cooking System for Tanaka, who is now in College at Earlham in the U.S. in Indiana. | 15:53 |
| jelkner | yes | 15:53 |
| Stephen | If he could be fit in, it would be great, as he's putting it in his student proposal for the spring... | 15:53 |
| Stephen | And its fairly simple stuff... | 15:54 |
| jelkner | that could be another, if Tanaka is available and wants it | 15:54 |
| jelkner | that would be great | 15:54 |
| jelkner | tboimah, between now and Saturday please see if you can start a video chat on May First's server with meeting room named SocialJusticeComputing | 15:54 |
| Stephen | And I'm paying for the server in Germany, which you guys can piggyback on if you want. | 15:54 |
| tboimah | Okay, jelkner | 15:54 |
| jelkner | invite him to our meeting Saturday, Stephen | 15:54 |
| Stephen | Ok. I'll see if he can make it. | 15:55 |
| jelkner | alright, one last thing and then let's end this meeting | 15:55 |
| Stephen | Will that be chat or Video? | 15:55 |
| jelkner | can everyone please introduce yourselves - name, age, and what you are studying to Devesh | 15:56 |
| jelkner | Stephen, that will be video | 15:56 |
| jelkner | but we want to keep using this channel to record decisions | 15:56 |
| Stephen | Dr. Stephen M. Hubbard, retired, 68 | 15:56 |
| jelkner | but it would be nice to see each other and chat informally on the Jitsi channel | 15:56 |
| jelkner | dcammue_, gabriel, jkollie, svaye, tboimah | 15:57 |
| jelkner | can you do what Dr. Hubbard just did, please? | 15:57 |
| jelkner | I'll model it too.. | 15:57 |
| jelkner | Jeff Elkner, 64, teacher studying business at UoPeople | 15:57 |
| tboimah | My name is Thomas Boimah, I'm 19 years. I am studying Computer Science at the University of the people. | 15:58 |
| jelkner | thank you tboimah | 15:58 |
| gabriel | My name is Gabriel M Washington, from west Africa, Liberia. Born July 26, 2004, studying computer science at university of the people. | 15:58 |
| jelkner | thanks gabriel | 15:59 |
| svaye | I am Shallon/ svaye I am 17 years old. I am studying business administration at the University of the People | 16:00 |
| mulbah | Hi Devesh My name is Mulbah T. Kolleh and I'm 18 years I'm studying sysadmin but have basic knowledge on JavaScript, Node.js and Python | 16:00 |
| jelkner | thanks mulbah | 16:00 |
| Devesh | It's nice to meet everyone. My name is Devesh, I'm 17, and I live in Virginia. | 16:00 |
| dcammue_ | Nice meeting Devesh, I am Daniel Cammue, and I am 25 years of age, I am studying Business Administration | 16:01 |
| gabriel | Nice to meet you too, Devesh, and we're glad getting to know you and having you on board. | 16:02 |
| jelkner | Devesh is studying business | 16:02 |
| jkollie | My name is Janet M Kollie Im turning 20yrs in two days and im studying python, HTML, CSS and etc. | 16:02 |
| jelkner | Ved recruited him to work with us. | 16:02 |
| svaye | It's nice meeting you Devesh | 16:02 |
| jelkner | Happy early B'Day Janet! | 16:02 |
| jelkner | Ved will graduate this year | 16:03 |
| ledmer | My name is Luis I'm 18 years old I also live in Virginia, moved out from Peru a year ago I'm part of the development team of Novawebdevelopment | 16:03 |
| jelkner | but Devesh will be here all next year | 16:03 |
| jkollie | +1 | 16:03 |
| jelkner | ok, i think that's all for today | 16:04 |
| jelkner | saturday we can discuss the plan | 16:05 |
| jelkner | and try Jitsi | 16:05 |
| jelkner | to see if it works smoothly from Spencer's place | 16:05 |
| Stephen | Ok, it was very nice meeting all of you. See you on Saturday... | 16:05 |
| gabriel | okay, jeff, have a nice day. | 16:05 |
| jelkner | Thanks Stephen! | 16:05 |
| jelkner | see you all Saturday | 16:05 |
| mulbah | Jeff can you share the github lab like of Bigborther cahtbot to me | 16:05 |
| Stephen | Send a link for Saturday... | 16:05 |
| gabriel | Nice meeting you too, Stephen. | 16:05 |
| jelkner | mulbah, talk to ledmer | 16:05 |
| Stephen | Thanks... | 16:05 |
| mulbah | Alright | 16:06 |
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| ledmer | !present_yourself | 16:07 |
| LittleWebster | Invalid arguments. | 16:07 |
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| ledmer | !present_yourself | 16:12 |
| LittleWebster | Invalid arguments. | 16:12 |
| ledmer | !agenda | 16:12 |
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